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December 13, 2011

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Brian M

It does not matter who we Americans run to oust President Obama. With the help of ABC,NBC,CBS the Democrats and the White House will create a faux crisis that will ingratiate the president to voters. This will assure the president's reelection. Look for some manufactured non-crisis turned into a crisis sometime before the Olympics. Americans: stay calm!

gringoman

Monica is right about the benefits of going through the blood and fire. So let's bring on the ideology.

ROMNEY: Why doesn't Gingrich give back the million dollars he got from Freddie Mac?

GINGRICH: Why doesn't Romney tell us about the companies he destroyed with Bain Capital and all the jobs he killed?


gringoNOTE: Can it be? Romney here is attacking Gingrich socialism, and Gingrich is dissing Romney capitalism?

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The Marxists made an interesting extension of Machiavelli when they have gone to history to learn the science of insurrection, the mechanics of subversive activity, and the wider doctrine of revolutionary strategy.

Herbert Butterfield, The Statecraft of Machiavelli

gringoman

Tcobb
#49. Eggplant
The MSM’s goal is to further Obama’s reelection. Deceiving the electorate into nominating the weakest possible Republican candidate is part of that goal. I see the MSM’s opposition of Gingrich as evidence that they fear Gingrich as Obama’s opponent. Likewise, I see the MSM’s support of Romney as evidence that they believe Obama can easily defeat him.

BINGO!!!!

December 10, 2011

GringoNOTE: You mean the Chicago Obamunists and Deadfish prefer to take on a gentleman--something which Newt Gingrich clearly is not? How shocking!

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The Marxists made an interesting extension of Machiavelli when they have gone to history to learn the science of insurrection, the mechanics of subversive activity, and the wider doctrine of revolutionary strategy.

Herbert Butterfield, The Statecraft of Machiavelli

gringoman

While Progniki (rhymes with sneaky) Say Americans Want Obamanationcare

The New Repeal: “The latest Rasmussen poll of likely voters shows that, by the whopping margin of 20 percentage points — 55 to 35 percent — Americans support the repeal of Obamacare. This marks the continuation of a striking trend: Since Memorial Day (just over six months ago), Rasmussen has taken 21 polls on Obamacare’s repeal. In all 21, repeal has won by double-digits.”

gringoNOTE: Who, then, would the Obamarxists prefer to face and more easily neutralize on this huge issue?

Gingrich, who does have some Freddie Mac and even mandate dirt in his fingernails?

Or Romney, known as the Godfather of Obamacare?

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The Marxists made an interesting extension of Machiavelli when they have gone to history to learn the science of insurrection, the mechanics of subversive activity, and the wider doctrine of revolutionary strategy.

Herbert Butterfield, The Statecraft of Machiavelli

gringoman

RogerJStoneJr Roger Stone

Newt Gingrich--greatest counter-puncher since Joe Frazier. Cleaned Mitt's clock Sat. nite

gringoNOTE: Mitt won't stay down. RINO Central and Obamasuck Media will pick him up.

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I do unto others what they do unto me, only worse. Jimmy Hoffa

gringoNOTE: Did Hoffa channel Gingrich, or does Gingrich channel Hoffa?


gringoman

RogerJStoneJr Roger Stone

Romney considering gaining weight and dying hair white as GINGRICH surges

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I do unto others what they do unto me, only worse. Jimmy Hoffa

gringoNOTE: Did Hoffa channel Gingrich, or does Gingrich channel Hoffa?

gringoman

gringINTEL (Open Source)

The Obamunist Plan to Gut Romney:

That has been the Obama plan all along. That is why Occupy Wall Street was started. In Wall Street Gordon Gekko was asked “why are you going to wreck this company?” His response…”because it is wreckable!”

Romney always talks about the great work he did at Bain and offers no examples of success or jobs created. Ted Kennedy talked about Bain in 1994 and defeated Romney on it. Mitt Romney and Bain bought the company I worked at. They drove it into the ground and sold off the pieces and parts. Romney made millions and I got thrown out on my rear end. Combine that with the picture of Romney and his Bain buddies tossing cash in the air and we have a real problem.

That is what we will hear throughout the campaign from Obama and in this climate it will be poison. Far from being our best candidate I believe Romney is our worst possible candidate.

Do the Rombots really believe this should not be vetted in the primary? It has to be vetted because not only will Romney be defeated in the primary because of his business record, he would be destoyed in the General because of it.
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The Marxists made an interesting extension of Machiavelli when they have gone to history to learn the science of insurrection, the mechanics of subversive activity, and the wider doctrine of revolutionary strategy.

Herbert Butterfield, The Statecraft of Machiavelli

DJ

Gingrich, who does have some Freddie Mac and even mandate dirt in his fingernails?

Or Romney, known as the Godfather of Obamacare?

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Gringoman,

The Newt is on record as a strong proponent of single payer too.

So on the issue of opposing or supporting Obamacare, Newt and Willard cancel each other out.

More noteworthy is both the GOP front runners have been proponents of Obamacare to one degree or another, yet they are the front runners.

Question: If overturning Obamacare is vital to preventing loss of freedoms and keeping our economy from sinking in the tank even further, how is it that Newt and Willard are the front runners?

What does that say about the electorate?

gringoman

Cowboy
There was a time when I respected Noonan’s words. She shot that to pieces when she declared for Obama. I suppose it is a violation of trust. I’ve never read one word she’s written since then. I will never read another word she writes. It is a shame, I used to really like her.

On Newt: I was there on Capitol Hill in 1994. Long before the new Congress got sworn in the long knives were out. It is hard to describe the level of shock the Gingrich Revolution brought to the Congress. None of the incumbent class saw it coming. It was as if L3′s anti-incumbent plans suddenly worked, out of the blue. Tom Foley, the sitting Speaker of the House, not only lost his speakership but he lost his seat. I well remember a great many Republican staffers expressing anger and dismay over Newt’s triumph. Those 1994 elections upset a lot of applecarts. The pigmen of Capitol Hill like the status quo. They hated Newt from 1994 onwards.

It is funny to me that the best critique of Newt is that he is a consumate insider. The truth be told, the insiders hated him from the start. Newt’s a neer-do-well backbencher who somehow made well.

It is no surprise establishment Washington is out against Newt today. It is not the first time they’ve been doing it, for one thing. The funny thing is their mechanism to portray Newt as the ultimate insider. If that were so, why is Newt’s greatest opposition coming from the inside?

I’m not totally sold on Newt for this cycle. He was my general back in 1994 and I was his soldier on the ground back in that day. Considering all that happened, and the circumstances, and poised with the question could I back him today? I’d say yes. I could back the Newtster. YOu think I’d back RomneyCare? Think again

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The Marxists made an interesting extension of Machiavelli when they have gone to history to learn the science of insurrection, the mechanics of subversive activity, and the wider doctrine of revolutionary strategy.

Herbert Butterfield, The Statecraft of Machiavelli

gringoman

Gringoman,

The Newt is on record as a strong proponent of single payer too.

So on the issue of opposing or supporting Obamacare, Newt and Willard cancel each other out.

More noteworthy is both the GOP front runners have been proponents of Obamacare to one degree or another, yet they are the front runners.

Question: If overturning Obamacare is vital to preventing loss of freedoms and keeping our economy from sinking in the tank even further, how is it that Newt and Willard are the front runners?

What does that say about the electorate?

Posted by: DJ | December 13, 2011 at 09:35 AM

DJ,

These two are the front runners because they've been the best campaigners. Romney's there due to ambition, money and organization. Gingrich has startled everyone on nothing but ambition and sheer wit.

I don't fully trust either of them to end the socialist mandate, but I trust Mitt Obamaneycare less.
Newt is a maybe. Also, he can't be oblivious to the national revulsion against what the Pelosi/Reid Obamunists rammed down the US throat in the dark of night.

borderbriar

The curious question is why would any sensible person want the presidency at this time? More and more financial analysts and economists are waking up to what the Dent group has been saying for a long time, the baby boomers have passed their spending peak and that will dominate the economy till the next generational cycle. Government can't overcome that natural cycle. The next five to ten years are likely to see the Dow heading into the three thousand range and housing down another twenty or so percent. Not likely to be a happy time for a President.

If Obama is being given a choice about running, you have to wonder why he would. Maybe those pulling the strings to keep him in the same rut as George W Bush won't let him fade away. Auntie Sarah's question How's the hopey changy thing working? was a little misdirected. It should be Where's the hopey changy thing. We have the same wasteful wars, the same massive give aways to corporations, the same runnaway spending, the same encroachment on individual freedom and so on. Any pretense of freedom could basically disappear if Sen B1867 gets through. The important question is whether anybody is likely to change anything.

xbjllb

http://news.yahoo.com/talk-show-host-offers-newt-gingrich-1-million-014908204.html

gringoman

gringoVINE (Open Source)
It's time for conservatives to stop being the cheap, sleazy dates of the GOP. In the past the GOP offered some empty promises or yelled "Bugga bugga boo - their team is going to win unless you vote Republican!" Conservatives lined up to pull the lever then meekly complained when their wishes, hopes and visions got ignored.

No more. Push the candidates. Call out their fiscal recklessness or naked hypocrisy like Gingrich's messy history. Make the candidates sweat for their vote and make them stick to their promises.

Anyone who bleats that conservatives should just shut up and support Gingrich are ignorant of their own voting history. If Gingrich knows he has a bunch of lemmings in his camp then he knows he has to do nothing more then shower them with gaudy baubles and contempt. Make him earn our support!
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gringoNOTE: How to disagree?--(assuming that Newt will keeping kicking Romney butt, outwit his many foes, stay focused, and not crash and burn via his own flame-thrower)....For a conservative there is one other principled option: go third party. Of course, this in effect puts the Obamunists back in the White House 2012. Still, it's a principled option for some. It's just not for me.

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The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do.

Frederic Skinner

gringoman

Giuliani: Gingrich may be stronger than Romney
Posted by
CNN's Kevin Liptak

“My gut tells me right now as I look at it that Gingrich might actually be the stronger candidate, because I think he can make a broader connection than Mitt Romney to those Reagan Democrats,” Giuliani said on CNN’s “Piers Morgan Tonight.”

He continued, “You won't have this barrier of possible elitism that I think Obama could exploit pretty effectively.”

Giuliani said elitism was a charge Democrats would have a hard time lobbing at Gingrich.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/12/giuliani-gingrich-may-be-stronger-than-romney/

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I do not over-eat because my mother slapped me when I was five. I over-eat because I'm a hog. DOLLY PARTON

gringoNOTE: Will Mitt Romney start hitting the Big Macs and fries for a new "people" image?

Ummahgummah

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"two men with incredible brains, talent and drive"

LOL.. The Gooper con game is UP.

TIME FOR A THIRD PARTY.

I am voting for the Bama is either of these two is the candidate.

Rick Perry and Rick Santorum are beginning to look awfully good by now.

Wonder why my original post on the topic was CANCELED.

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Ummahgummah

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Gringoman, would it be fair to label Monica a Gooperette after reading the above?

I for one will NOT vote for yet another "lesser evil".

TEA PARTY REVOLUTION NOW!!!!

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Chief Joe

Newt Gingrich, in referring to working children, I believe was addressing the 500 million Hindu children that work, and also many Muslim children that must assist in agriculture. As he broadcasts his message for its effect, it has a bad resonance here in the US. In addition to seeming to undo sweat shop environments in the US, this also seems like Gingrich is more interested in running for office in India, rather than in the US.

No doubt he is attempting to obtain campaign money from these foreign countries. Baaaa

DJ

Is Newt really as smart as everyone thinks he is, or is he just a good con man that has the ability to dazzle the less learned with his intellectual mumbo jumbo?

I found this over at VFR, a fave website of mine and got a good laugh from it.

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Steyn on Gingrich

Mark Steyn writing at the Corner has a hilarious and accurate take on Gingrich, though he's quoting from a 1998 column:


Re: Has Gingrich Changed? et al

December 6, 2011 6:04 P.M.

Since Ramesh, Mona, Yuval & Co have got out the tire irons, I figured I might as well pile on. But then a reader from the Cayman Islands reminded me that I'd said pretty much everything I have to say about Newt in November 1998--in the London Spectator, upon his resignation as Speaker. For those Newtroids who huff that I must be in the tank for Mitt (that's some tank), November 1998 is 13 years ago, when I'm not sure I'd even heard of Mitt Romney.

Anyway, back then, after a brisk trot through his collected Brainstorms-of-the-Week--"The Triangle of American Progress", "The Four Great Truths", "The Four Pillars of American Civilization", "The Five Pillars of the 21st Century", "The Nine Zones of Creativity", "The Fourteen Steps to Renewing American Civilization", The Thirty-Nine Steps to the Five Year Plan of the Six Flags of the Seven Brides for Seven Brothers of the Nine-Inch Nails of Renewing Civilizational Progress for 21st Century America, etc, I concluded:

The Democrats demonised Newt as an extreme right-wing crazy. They were right--apart from the 'extreme' and 'right-wing', that is. Most of the above seem more like the burblings of a frustrated self-help guru than blueprints for conservative government. For example, Pillar No. 5 of the 'Five Pillars of American Civilisation' is: 'Total quality management'. Unfortunately for Newt, the person who most needed a self-help manual was him--How to Win Friends and Influence People for a start. After last week's election, Republicans have now embarked on the time-honoured ritual, well known to British Tories and Labour before them, of bickering over whether they did badly because they were too extreme or because they were too moderate. In Newt's case, the answer is both. He spent the last year pre-emptively surrendering on anything of legislative consequence, but then, feeling bad at having abandoned another two or three of his 'Fourteen Steps to Renewing American Civilisation', he'd go on television and snarl at everybody in sight ... For Republicans it was the worst of all worlds: a lily-livered ninny whom everyone thinks is a ferocious right-wing bastard.

That's how it would go this time round. We'd wind up with a cross between Teddy Roosevelt and Alvin Tofler who canoodled on the sofa with Nancy Pelosi demanding Big Government climate-change conventional-wisdom punitive liberalism just as the rest of the planet was finally getting off the bandwagon ...but the media would still insist on dusting off their 1994 "The Gingrich Who Stole Christmas" graphics.

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xbjllb

"I am voting for the Bama is either of these two is the candidate." - UG

No comment needed.

 M/M

I for one will NOT vote for yet another "lesser evil".

TEA PARTY REVOLUTION NOW!!!!

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | December 13, 2011 at 03:51 PM
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Ditto! Dedicated to the GOP! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDHnGz6Scik&feature=related

Jay

This will assure the president's reelection. Look for some manufactured non-crisis turned into a crisis sometime before the Olympics. Americans: stay calm!

Posted by: Brian M | December 13, 2011 at 08:52 AM

More "consiracy is everywhere" mindset from a conservative.
What would a conservative do, if they didn't have one. Make one up?

Jay

Wonder why my original post on the topic was CANCELED.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | December 13, 2011 at 03:48 PM


Next time. Keep out the swear words. Never had a problem posting my comments.

Jay

Interesting how the tea party said they will change politics. And, what 2 candidates are front frunners for the GOP? Newt and Romney.

But, many tea partiers want Newt. Because he wants poor children to work as janitors. And, the tea party, being mostly white, middle class and older. Aren't interested in the young or the poor. They just want their entitlements left alone.

thebuckstopshere

is bullsh*t one word or two?

the RNC & DNC's greatest fear is NOT trading power.......


PERRYWINKLE BLUECOLLAR FOR PERRY 2012

Samboonian

But, many tea partiers want Newt. Because he wants poor children to work as janitors. And, the tea party, being mostly white, middle class and older. Aren't interested in the young or the poor. They just want their entitlements left alone.

Posted by: Jay | December 13, 2011 at 07:49 PM

But, ALL Congressional Black Caucus members want Obama. Because all they want is an advantage for black children. They don't care about older white people. They just want tax dollars going to black people.

Jay

But, ALL Congressional Black Caucus members want Obama. Because all they want is an advantage for black children. They don't care about older white people. They just want tax dollars going to black people.

Posted by: Samboonian | December 13, 2011 at 09:19 PM


Sounds like blacks wanting Cain. And, conservatives who tried to get blacks to vote for cain, just to have fewer vote for Obama. Which was why Cain was a Koch puppet.

Samboonian

Sounds like blacks wanting Cain. And, conservatives who tried to get blacks to vote for cain, just to have fewer vote for Obama. Which was why Cain was a Koch puppet.

Posted by: Jay | December 13, 2011 at 09:36 PM

Simmer in your stupidity, boy!

Jay

Simmer in your stupidity, boy!

Posted by: Samboonian | December 13, 2011 at 09:40 PM
Correct translation. " QUIT TELLING THE TRUTH, JAY! CONSERVATIVES CAN'T STAND IT!"

Cain was pushed by the Kochs, because"HE'S ALL BLACK"!

Sweden the 5th happiest country in the world. Denmark, is the 2nd. YEA!

While Ireland, which many feel is a business friendly country. has many traits that conservatives want in regards to business. their "Happyness" rating has gone down.

gringoman


That's how it would go this time round. We'd wind up with a cross between Teddy Roosevelt and Alvin Tofler who canoodled on the sofa with Nancy Pelosi demanding Big Government climate-change conventional-wisdom punitive liberalism just as the rest of the planet was finally getting off the bandwagon ...but the media would still insist on dusting off their 1994 "The Gingrich Who Stole Christmas" graphics.

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Posted by: DJ | December 13, 2011 at 05:56 PM

DJ,

If The Newt is as discombobulated as Steyn, and others, assure us he not only was but still is, even today in his relatively mellowed-out grandfatherly phase---not to worry. What is the problem? By daring to vault over Rinosaur fave Mitt Romney (not to mention the others)he will now undergo the Mother of all vettings. He brought it on himself. As we speak he's already incited a bizarre combination of enemies ranging from libs. conservatives, libertarians, Gooper Central, Senator Coburn, Romney's crack oppo, Chicagoland's crack oppo, Republican Senator Coburn, Michael Savage, Glenn Beck, Don Imus. Obama's brain David Axelrod (Prince of Trotsky Street, Lower East Side)etc etc. What mortal pol could survive such an onslaught, in the most intense media scrutiny he ever got, since the stakes are so high? Icarus decided to fly with wings made of feathers and wax, as if the sun couldn't affect them, and he soared higher and higher, closer and closer to that source of all heat---until...wings began to melt and....We know how that worked out, don't we, DJ?

Is Newt any cannier than the son of Daedulus?

Does't sound like Mark Steyn and others think so.

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The Marxists made an interesting extension of Machiavelli when they have gone to history to learn the science of insurrection, the mechanics of subversive activity, and the wider doctrine of revolutionary strategy.

Herbert Butterfield, The Statecraft of Machiavelli

gringoman

Yo! Didn't Ed Koch get the memo from Mark Steyn, and others?

Newt Gingrich: Liberals’ Nightmare
Tuesday, 13 Dec 2011 09:37 AM

By Edward Koch


Read more on Newsmax.com: Newt Gingrich: Liberals’ Nightmare


Gingrich is perceived by all as the smartest of the eight Republican candidates vying for the presidency. He is also the whipping boy of all the commentators on the left, and his philosophical positions and character are attacked with a glee and a fierceness rarely seen.

But my belief is that Gingrich is not suffering from the attacks. Rather than injuring him, he seems to be gaining new supporters and widening his lead. A recent Gallup poll shows Gingrich leading Romney 37 percent to 22 percent among Republican registered voters.

http://www.newsmax.com/Koch/Gingrich-Liberals-Republican-candidates/2011/12/13/id/420786?s=al&promo_code=DB48-1


Read more on Newsmax.com: Newt Gingrich: Liberals’ Nightmare

Jay

The ONLY reason why Gingrich is ahead in the polls is because conservatives don't want Romney. The others , Bachmann, Perry, etc had ther chance and blew it. The conservatives that know Newt, don't want him. While others don't care what he did or don't know all the facts. His 22 kited checks in the House banking scandal for one.

Jay


His 22 kited checks in the House banking scandal for one.

Posted by: Jay | December 13, 2011 at 10:17 PM


http://www.realchange.org/gingrich.htm

gringoman

Romney in 2002: I’m a Progressive
If conservative voters sense something’s not quite right about Mitt Romney’s 2012 pitch, they’re onto something. In a new video that shows Romney talking to reporters during his 2002 gubernatorial campaign, Romney makes the opposite of the case for himself that he’s currently making to GOP voters. “I think people recognize that I'm not a partisan Republican, that I'm someone who is moderate, and my views are progressive,” he says.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2011/12/13/romney-in-2002-i-m-a-progressive.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=cheatsheet_afternoon&cid=newsletter%3Bemail%3Bcheatsheet_afternoon&utm_term=Cheat%20Sheet


CJ

We can each agree that those running for Pres each have many shared thoughts & ideas they can agree on as well as ones they don't agree on ~ what we can compromise on is also a personal choice. We can agree that each are better than O-bomb-a(merica).
Many of us have learned from our choices weather good or bad ~ it is the choices that didn't go so well, or that we failed at that led us to look at it, own it, learn from it and succeed from them. We can listen, check facts, look at each plan that they've presented, from here we the people will be able to choose the one who is not afraid of confrontation, who whole heartedly knows that we the people can regain the America that the O-bomb has been deviding and deteriorating this amazing country. Understanding the 'nanenane' - while some say this is the game of politics - for some of us it is dumb.
Mostly, there are those that want to see the brightest, well versed, no fear of confrontation wipe the floor with O-bummer! I am one of those.

gringoman

MAYOR ED KOCH, old time liberal icon/////Gingrich is now leading the Republican pack in the polls. Romney has not been able to capture more than 25 percent of the Republican Party support. Apparently the conservative base of the party simply does not trust him.

Democrats who are supporters of President Obama and are hoping that he will face Newt Gingrich as the Republican candidate are mistaken in their belief that he will be easy to beat.

Gingrich is appealing to the anger in this country toward all politicians, particularly those in Congress. The country is looking for a leader, unafraid to tell the truth, and many think that Newt Gingrich is that person.

Read more on Newsmax.com: Newt Gingrich: Liberals’ Nightmare
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RogerJStoneJr Roger Stone
Herman Cain not endorsing Michelle Bachman unless she comes thRu with the mogambo @maggiepolitico

Jay

Gingrich is appealing to the anger in this country toward all politicians, particularly those in Congress. The country is looking for a leader, unafraid to tell the truth, and many think that Newt Gingrich is that person.

Then, Newt is the wrong person. He was kicked out as speaker of the house by his own party. He had a program where poor kids get paid for the books they read. Most of the mone went to his people.
Wherever he travels to campaign, he always turns it into a book signing tour. Who wants a president who does that.
If, he was a Democrat, conservatives would yell to throw the bum out.

Maybe conservatives don't have as high of a expectation of their political leaders?

John G

Have you heard any of the liberal press come out against Romney over the past few months since he's been in the lead? No, they want to run against Romney and fear Gingrich. The Democrats on the talk shows all say they fear Romney yet if they did, they would have be throwing bombs at him this past summer. Gingrich knows how to work the system in DC and has proven to get things done; the moderates won't give a hoot about his personal life, I think they want real change. Romney promises no change, Obama is more of the same; at least Gingrich will bring change to the government and has the guts to call out the Palestinians for who they are-that's what we need in the White House!

gringoman

Jonah Goldberg on Newtzilla

December 13, 2011
"How do we stop Newt?"

I've now been asked that question by a lot of conservatives. It's not that I'm the go-to guy for that sort of question. Rather, one gets the sense that many "establishment" conservatives are asking everybody that question — in staff meetings, at the chiropodist, even at the McDonald's drive-through.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-goldberg-stopnewt-20111213,0,3798874.column

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RogerJStoneJr Roger Stone
Romney considering gaining weight and dying hair white as GINGRICH surges

xbjllb

Conservatives seem to prefer someone who hates Obama and the left passionately over someone who can beat him but doesn't hate him and the left so much, if at all.

Conservatives seem to think that hate is power. While it is with their base, in this case of the rest of America at this time, probably not.

America seems to be in a vastly different place than most conservatives.

Even independents. Perhaps especially independents.

Jay

The Democrats on the talk shows all say they fear Romney yet if they did, they would have be throwing bombs at him this past summer. Gingrich knows how to work the system in DC and has proven to get things done; the moderates won't give a hoot about his personal life, I think they want real change. Romney promises no change, Obama is more of the same; at least Gingrich will bring change to the government and has the guts to call out the Palestinians for who they are-that's what we need in the White House!

Posted by: John G | December 13, 2011 at 10:59 PM

Why post attackes when his numbers were down?

Jay

And, Newt and Obama?

Those two have alot of simular traits. Both spent much of their early days overseas for one.

Newt in France

gringoman

MOE LANE: “I think that you should watch this Rick Perry video.”…
December 13, 2011 at 2:37 pm

[...] MOE LANE: “I think that you should watch this Rick Perry video.” [...]

http://moelane.com/2011/12/13/i-think-that-you-should-watch-this-rick-perry-video/

gringoman

Gringoman, would it be fair to label Monica a Gooperette after reading the above?

I for one will NOT vote for yet another "lesser evil".

TEA PARTY REVOLUTION NOW!!!!

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | December 13, 2011 at 03:51 PM

Ummah,

I think Monica might have been called a fairy princess Gooperette, but the Log Cabin Republicans objected.

John G

"Why post attackes when his numbers were down?"
If I understand this comment correctly, Romney has been in the lead from the very beginning, yet the libs have really left him alone. It just seems as though they don't wan't to upset the apple cart for Romney so the liberal press has laid off Mitt, but when Newt gets some traction they are all over him which seems to imply that Newt is the real candidate that the ministry of propaganda has been instructed to go after. Gingrich is the only candidate that can keep the heat on Obama and his record and not allow the press to spin into something else. Romney would get eaten alive in DC or bogged down in a quagmire.

He's (Newt) not perfect but to dig us out of the $135 trillion mess while taking in $1.5 trillion a year is going to take someone who is a real Maverick and I think Newt is willing to throw the hail Mary that we need because the only way out of the mess we are in is to declare BK or to amortize the debt over 50 years and cut the government by 50% and that is an impossibility.

Jay

Dems have left Romney alone. because they know conservatives don't want him.
They only started on Newt, when his numbers went up. But, with him, those that know him don't want him, either. he's a "ALL OR NOTHING"

And, the debt and spending? government data shows that it has been mostly a conservative affair.

Jay

Why Do Wisconsin Republicans Want To Make It Harder For Ruthelle Frank To Vote?

http://dekerivers.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/why-do-wisconsin-republicans-want-to-make-it-harder-for-ruthelle-frank-to-vote/

Ruthelle, born at home in 1927. So doesn't have a birth cerificate. The Doctor wrote her name wrong. But, because of actions by the GOP. she can't after 66 years be able to vote.

"Having said that there are those who strive to make a difference, but not for the better of this state or nation. Instead their motives are to make sure a political touch-down is scored. Such was the case when Wisconsin Republicans had a solution in search of a problem when it came to voting in elections.

There is not now, nor has there ever been, a long list of offenders when it comes to election fraud in the Badger State. In fact, there are very few such cases that can be held up as an example. But to have heard the GOP tell the story earlier this year when they rammed a voter ID bill through the legislative process there was nothing but pure mayhem lurking about at polling places. I can state no such mayhem ever was seen by myself when working the polls."

But, conservatives feel that this instance is a good thing. For, people such as Ruthelle usually vote Democratic.
Which is why the bill was passed by them in the first place. For her to get a birth certificate. With having her name misspelled, would cost $200.00.

Jay

More conservative's "can't win elections fairly, so will do whatever is possible to make it harder for those who usually vote against me, to do so."

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2011/11/08/republican-led-voter-restrictions-are-rigging-democracy

Our voting rights are now under the largest assault we have witnessed in over a century. A wave of restrictive laws passed in Republican-led state legislatures will mean that next year a disproportionate number of African-Americans, Latinos, people with disabilities, the elderly, and the young will find voting difficult and in many cases impossible.

There may be another reason prompting the push for these laws that inordinately impact certain voters that tend to vote Democratic. A new documentary from Brave New Foundation reveals that these laws have strong partisan backing. The American Legislative Exchange Council—a conservative advocacy group that receives funding from the billionaire Koch brothers (who also help fund the Tea Party)—crafted and distributed model legislation restricting voting for lawmakers to introduce in 34 states. The Koch brothers also contributed funds to the Republican legislators who supported these laws. Just five states where laws have already passed represent 171 electoral votes, two thirds of those needed to win the presidency. There is no question that these laws can impact electoral outcome.

Am sure that Gringo will call these conservative politicians, "STUPID CHEATING WEASELS"!

Jay

Also, from that article:

Larry Butler of South Carolina is one of those. He was born at home in 1926, during a time of strict segregation when African-Americans did not have access to hospitals. Because Mr. Butler does not have an official birth certificate, he was denied the free state photo ID and told that it would cost $150 to get the underlying document to obtain one. It is, in essence, a modern-day poll tax used decades ago to deny blacks in the South their right to vote. Unlike Mr. Butler, who is not a wealthy man, most Americans will not have to pay over $100 to exercise their constitutionally guaranteed right.

Seems that conservatives love the Jim Crow days.

While the Southern conservatives have taken over the Klan in the south.
The conservatives want the Jim Crow type laws nationwide.

The old literacy test, whatever.

 M/M

Gringoman, would it be fair to label Monica a Gooperette after reading the above?

I for one will NOT vote for yet another "lesser evil".

TEA PARTY REVOLUTION NOW!!!!.

Posted by: Ummahgummah | December 13, 2011 at 03:51 PM
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The lesser of two evils gave us illegal immigration. The GOP will just have to find an illegal to take my place in the voting booth.

xbjllb

http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/newty-and-the-donald/

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