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October 05, 2011

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RafeMasters_76

Let's see...who are the biggest liars? Hmmm...Cheney? Rumsfeld? Bush Jr? Hmmmm...

Doc Brown

The lies are transparent...
Obama promised transparency...

I knew he would come through!

Steve Morgan

Union soldier takes on Confederate media outlet: Let's get past the banksters and have our own conversation!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJgWdfZqDj0

LongRifle

Lying Politicians? Really? BTW: Are we still looking for WMD in Iraq? Yawn...

Jay

Typical Monica's right wing propaganda!

Lies are done by ALL politicians!

Karl Rove's group, will donate 240 million to have Obama defeated. In one of their commercials. They took what a female reporter said on CNN, Edited it. To make it look like Brianna was saying that the tax hikes that Obama proposed was directed at the middle class.


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Obama of course took Reagan completely out of context. Reagan was actually discussing his growth plan---which he got through Congress and passed into law---to lower marginal tax rates across the board, including the top rate down to 28%. What followed was two decades of the greatest economic expansion in U.S. history.---Monica

There was a recession in the early 1990s.

He increased federal government, social security and he did the typical conservative hipocrisy. He cut income taxes and raised taxes elsewhere. Almost wiped out Social security.

Jay

Like I said before: This Steve Morgan goof (Jay's dad/mentor?) is truly a mud-slinging slandering ignoramus.

Posted by: DJ | October 05, 2011 at 08:10 AM

No , Steve just sees what others have seen on the memo. The irregulars are just as racists as anyone! And, my dad didn't like people downgrading someone because of their race. he knew the big contributions the blacks and others did in WW2!

Jay

Most people, including well meaning liberals, long for a society sans repugnant little a-holes like you.

Posted by: DJ | October 05, 2011 at 08:35 AM

Guess there are still people that loved the good old days. With the Schwerner,Goodman and Chaney case. What the movie called Mississippi Burning!

Jay

Guess there are still people that loved the good old days. With the Schwerner,Goodman and Chaney case. What the movie called Mississippi Burning!

Posted by: Jay | October 05, 2011 at 01:23 PM


And, don't forget 14 year old Emmit Till.

Chiel Joe

And no mention of Nancy Pelosi? what is that woman doing? Establishing her own mafia? They ought to make all her relatives who have flown on her jet wear a GPS so we know where they all are.

Chiel Joe

Politically, the nation is not well postured...

Well lets see, there is a high cloud with wealthy people, some bankers,some oilmen, and below them is the two international cartels linked to the former political left and right linked to the Congress through the lobby, and then, below that is the lowly US government. Whatever happened to former US presidents coming when called? I guess we let them in when they were too young, and now they are acting as though they were still in charge.

We should elect the former presidents we want to remain inactive, enjoying their expensive retirements, with their immortal secret service protection. Isn't that enough? How do we get them to stop? How?

Steve Morgan

Jay:

Have you seen the short video clip I posted @ 12:14? I should add that BOTH political parties have sold out to the corporations....

I'll bet this guy- who should be president himself- won't make it to the tv screen...and, IMHO that IS the problem with this country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJgWdfZqDj0

Chief Joe

Steve, there you go again.

FOX news is just FOX news. Some are in beds with bankers and financiers, but face it, most there are not.

I was just going to nominate Nancy Pelosi as Congressional Godmother. Please Nancy, no horse heads.

Steve Morgan

Chief:

Could have been MSNBC for all I care. Did you hear what the young man had to say?

Marine Globetrotter

What we need is some guy named "Goldschmidt" as president; someone who will ensure that the price of gold will not drop. It really is a form of trickle down.

Liberator

"Lying Like Dogs

Both the president and his vice president uttered---let's be polite about this---untruths over the past day or so..."

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LMAO...Ms.Crowley started her career as a Nixon apologist. Had he not resigned, Nixon would have surely been impeached for his countless lies regarding his direct involvement in the Watergate scandal. Many of Nixon's top advisors, including his Attorney General, went to prison for lying during the Watergate investigations and hearings. (In an unrelated matter, Nixon's V.P., Spiro Agnew, also had to resign to avoid being prosecuted for his felonious acceptance of envelopes filled with bribery/kickback cash while in office). Others have already mentioned the Bush/Cheney legacy of lies and distortions that led up to our trillion dollar invasion of Iraq that has resulted in the fruitless wounding and deaths of thousands of young American soldiers.

xbjllb

Unfortunately for you, my lying love, MSNBC has the Reagan footage. A LOT of it. In CONTEXT.

The senile robot made those EXACT populist promises to get into office.

And then did exactly the opposite. The liar was you, and HIM. Which is why my mother along with millions of other senior citizens regretted electing him to her dying day and HATED HIS GUTS.

xbjllb

Nixon was the last of the real Republicans, the "not all bad" kind. The man, true to his Quaker roots, ended the war against the rabid screams of the ruling elite, ended their money train, and ended the cold war with China. Of course he was legitimately and understandably paranoid, but he should have been more paranoid of the right wing than the left, as history proves. He wasn't impeached for Watergate; he was impeached because he had the gall to end the right wing's moneymaking war as the overwhelming majority of the American People wanted.

No, the first of the "all bad" NaziGOP came in 1980 with Reagan as a completely and utterly senile Von Hindenburg to Poppy Bush dismantling the democracy behind the scenes for a twelve year run. Even at that, America's "Secret Hitler" never forgave America for throwing him over in his last four years for a Bill Clinton, even though he won the first Gulf War by doing it right with a REAL coalition and stopping at the Iraq border. Bush immediately set his cronies in his rogue CIA and in the public sector to bring about his final revenge on America, 9-11, its resulting ALL-WRONG war (fought ALL WRONG to last forever on PURPOSE by war criminal Rumsfeld), and the canonization of his alcohol and cocaine impaired idiot son.

For awhile anyway. Luckily for America the main of the CIA AND the military had other ideas than complete self-destruction in the Mideast for the profit of the Bush Cabal.

xbjllb

I don't use the words "Secret Hitler" when referring to G.H.W. Bush lightly. With over 100 million eventual dead in Africa from the deployment of US Ft. Detrick MD bioweapon HIV in tainted smallpox vaccine spread throughout the heart of Africa in a WHO smallpox eradication campaign in the 1980's (along with "decoy" hepatitis B vaccine deployments in the gay communities of San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York to deflect attention away from the US country of origin), "Poppy" Bush makes Hitler look like Jesus Christ in comparison.

And ever true to his master, senile fool Reagan kept deadly silent while America outdid Nazi Germany.

After that, 9-11 was a cakewalk.

American Exceptionalism. A country with no soul in search of more profit, preferably endless, and preferably on innocent blood.

Elite real-life vampires and their idiot stooges. In full-blown pathological denial.

Indeed.

xbjllb

The first step out of the morass is to choose the lesser evil and support it instead of its opposite.

God cannot help you when you've chosen the greater evil.

And shouldn't. Every human being has a conscience and knows full well the difference.

Even elite assholes depending on Luciferian "Cremation of Care" ceremonies with gallons of alcohol and illicit pleasureless sex to dull it.

xbjllb

Reagan, for all his crimes, IS a Christian, and was forgiven. When he finished his life review, and fully realized and felt first-hand all the evil done under him and under his name, he wept uncontrollably and inconsolably for 1000 comparable years of our time.

But he, at last, made it to Heaven, forgiven and repaired perfectly. Those who committed act after act of the ultimate heinous evil under his nose and afterward for mere wealth?

Not a chance in this hell on earth they've made. Nor beyond.

Dgscol

How do we survive if we confront the lying dogs? For example, criticize the banks and they cut you off like a bad mole. How about some insurance against banker abuse? Oops, banks are in control of insurance. What ever happened to the guy who wanted to bring back Glass-Steagall?

xbjllb

What law says anyone HAS to keep their money in banks?

Or MUST use debit cards?

See how long banks last on the money of JUST the top 10%.

Convenience is most often not worth the cost.

Dgscol

the question that needs to be answered for the Public is "How do I criticize the political architecture, and yet survive?" In a town that is wedded to the idea that policy, governmental and super-governmental, trumps all else, anyone is expendable. It is like living in China. In fact we have been warned that the growing influence of the Chinese will eventually punish all on the internet that has criticized them.

In this just investor propaganda? Or are we really becoming a totalitarian society? Why do we not push for some protections, so reformers can survive? Otherwise we get the cronies and people who follow the imposed order, ... and without the straight shooters conditions worsen for all the rest of us.

Dgscol

Even under the old Japanese model for US business, there was a path for reform through the executive committee, via the facilitator. Today the facilitator is a snitch.

mjfell

Hey Pelosi, Here’s Your Astroturf!

Occupy Wall Street is Van Jones’ bottom up, top down, inside out strategy at work. The fringe leftist radicals were hoping the Tea Party would go violent so they could be blamed, but since the Tea Party didn’t oblige, the fringe leftist radicals are calling their own out on to the streets. Of course, in complete contradiction with reality, the fringe leftist radicals will conjer up a way to blame their actions on the Tea Party.

This 100% astroturf “movement”, completely manufactured by “progressives” who seek to destroy the American way of life, are “progressive” Tea Party copycat wannabees. Is it any surprise that this action was initiated by Van Jones, a self avowed Communist? That reality is certainly no accident. Now, the protestors are joined by “progressive” propoganda minions MoveOn.org (funded by anti-American “open borders” champion George Soros) and multiple unions like the Chinatown Tenants Union, the Transit Workers Union, community organizations such as the Working Families Party and United NY. Their demand are simple. What do they want? FREE STUFF!! When do they want it? ALL THE TIME!! Their “message”? Capitalism, mortgage bankers, commodity traders and corporations are all evil. In short, they’re a bunch of tax the rich Communist nitwits who’re in dire need of a bath.

Americans should laugh at and ignore these “progressive” useful idiots who’re clogging the streets and being arrested by the hundreds. Let the current White House occupant and his “progressive” political allies call out the muscle against their own followers, upon whom their re-election chances rely.

http://mjfellright.wordpress.com/2011/10/05/hey-pelosi-heres-your-astroturf/

Steve Morgan

Truther raises good questions.

It seems to me that BOTH parties are in the hip pocket of Wall St and that Obama will outraise and thus outspend his challenger with money from the financial sector.

Here is an interesting stat:

Forget ideology
Forget race
Forget gender
Forget which party

In the USA the candidate that raises the most money wins 94% of the time.

Call that what you want, but it is not democracy... Or put another way, under our republican form or government the popular vote means less and less.
Most congressional districts are 'safe' in that they are unlikely to change hands.

The power of money in elections coupled with safe districts equals a legislature unresponsive to the popular will.

The only thing left to the voter of any stripe is to raise hell in the Primary. Select, don't settle!

Steve Morgan

Of course, in complete contradiction with reality, the fringe leftist radicals will conjer up a way to blame their actions on the Tea Party.-MJFELL

How will that happen? Is the Tea Party Membership among the people on Wall St.

Jay

Have you seen the short video clip I posted @ 12:14? I should add that BOTH political parties have sold out to the corporations....

I'll bet this guy- who should be president himself- won't make it to the tv screen...and, IMHO that IS the problem with this country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJgWdfZqDj0

Posted by: Steve Morgan | October 05, 2011 at 01:49 PM

I know it. Just from what I've seen from many conservatives. They won't admit to the fact that their party has, too. Too them, it's ALL GE!

Jay

Steve, there you go again.

FOX news is just FOX news. Some are in beds with bankers and financiers, but face it, most there are not.

I was just going to nominate Nancy Pelosi as Congressional Godmother. Please Nancy, no horse heads.

Posted by: Chief Joe | October 05, 2011 at 02:02 PM

To conservatives. whatever is said on Fox news is the truth. Obama took 34 ships to India and it cost 2 billion total. Conservatives, "I believe it!"

Jay

Occupy Wall Street is Van Jones’ bottom up, top down, inside out strategy at work. The fringe leftist radicals were hoping the Tea Party would go violent so they could be blamed, but since the Tea Party didn’t oblige, the fringe leftist radicals are calling their own out on to the streets. Of course, in complete contradiction with reality, the fringe leftist radicals will conjer up a way to blame their actions on the Tea Party. ---MJFELL

First, it's the common people who are tired of the widening gap between the middle class and the rich. The Conservative's viewpoint that it's all about the rich, dude!

And, why try to blame a group of people who are losing the country's approval rating and is having trouble getting enough people at their rallies. Washington D.C. is a good example.

Steve Morgan

To conservatives. whatever is said on Fox news is the truth. Obama took 34 ships to India and it cost 2 billion total. Conservatives, "I believe it!"

POSTED BY: JAY | OCTOBER 05, 2011 AT 07:39 PM

What? The entire Carnival Cruise Lines?!! $2Bil?!!! That is one hellava a lot of mojitos!

I thought, "Obama: Speaking at a college in Texas (by the way, note the increasing number of speeches he's giving on college campuses. He's trying to mobilize the kids again.) Where was I?..."

Cruising to India or visiting Perryville?

Steve Morgan

Well there are a lot of radio hosts that go on holiday seminar cruises. I think they invite listeners and then do panel discussions onboard between ports.

I'll bet if they hit a per diem quota that the cruise line lets the host sail free.
Who'd Obama take on his cruise?

Steve Morgan

DJ and Gringoman?

Jay

Well that presents you anti-white racist Nazis with a dilemma. To buy into the premise Adam and Eve were black you also must accept the fact that white people evolved from blacks; the definition of evolution is: A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form.

X-Lax OWNS the Mark of Cain


Posted by: DJ | October 05, 2011 at 04:17 PM


ALL of us came from the same few hundred people. About 500-800. ALL one color. As people migrated away from the Sun. Different colors evolved. Which is why in africa, people are black. While, in Northern Europe, people have more blonde hair and light colored eyes.

Skin tone is ALL about melatonin and the sun. Which is why white people get a tan, the more exposure to the sun they receive.

Racists of the world,"Me, comeing from the same group of people has the blacks, hispanics? NO,WAY! My closed lil mind can't take that!"

Jay

What? The entire Carnival Cruise Lines?!! $2Bil?!!! That is one hellava a lot of mojitos!

I thought, "Obama: Speaking at a college in Texas (by the way, note the increasing number of speeches he's giving on college campuses. He's trying to mobilize the kids again.) Where was I?..."

Cruising to India or visiting Perryville?

Posted by: Steve Morgan | October 05, 2011 at 07:48 PM

Beck said 2 billion, Bachmann and the hosts on Fox Hannity, Huckebee, the others said 200 million a day. Took the over 800 rooms,etc.

Dgscol

Jobs are/is dead. We still have the service sector and Herman Cain, though, autorepair, hamburgers, warehouse stuff, etc.

It is sad that Sarah took the Christie route, and both have bucked the US aristocracy. It is not their time, yet.

Jay

Bachmann on Obama's India trip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZwGN4Op5eU

Jay

And, beck:

34 ships, 3000 people staying at the Taj, took 540 rooms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW4hk3rXh1k&feature=related

No wonder conservatives have a mixed up viewpoint on what's really happening!

Jay

Beck, why are they removing the coconuts from the trees?
And, conservatives attack the liberal media!

maybe they should look at their own!

xbjllb

Steve Jobs just died. Expect Apple to eventually perform MUCH better as they start listening to their customers again, after a brief panic dip in stock.

xbjllb

SP NOT running. Duh.

Palin has about ten seconds of fame left.

xbjllb

I think even Gringowhore threw out his sticky pinup poster of her.

And replaced it with one of Rick Perry. In front of which he keeps red candles lit, 24/7.

xbjllb

"And, conservatives attack the liberal media!

maybe they should look at their own!" - Jay


The very LAST place any conservative of note goes to for TRUTH and NEWS is their own media outlets.

xbjllb

But, as a source of telegraphing whatever "can't possibly win" idiotic strategy they will be using in the next few weeks and months?

Priceless.

LongRifle

BOTH political parties have sold out to the corporations....
Steve Morgan

And since Wall Street Ceo's have posted record profits in the last three years, it's a sure bet who they will be supporting, despite them howling and whining on Fox Business for "less taxes". They are playing both sides better than usual, and as you posted later...the one who raises the most money wins 94% of the time. Smart money is -sad to say- backing Obama.
Those making $250k will get taxed (middle class disguised as rich by Libs) while the real money makers will get their loopholes.
Maybe I'm a fool; but only Cain appears different.

Steve Morgan

LongRifle-

I don't think you are a fool. I believe there are more than one way to skin the cat, ideologically speaking... but I do believe it's time for people of good will to take back the country.. or, cut the money edge down from 94% to, say around 50%.

In the sense we are talking about here, Obama/Romney/Perry = no difference , except among the exploding rhetoric. Cain is different.

XBJLLB;

Calling out illogical chicanery and decrying racism is a good thing and has my unqualified support.
What does not have my support is mocking another's belief system. You transgress in two area: mocking conservatism on its face and through your apparent anti-catholicsm.
You may not embrace conservative principles but that does not make conservatism invalid. Jump on wingnuttery, castigate policy, but respect conservative principles that have existed in western societies from time in memorial.

Your damnation of catholicism on a previous thread I find particularly offensive. Especially in light of the fact that your sneer is based on a viewpoint of the christian reformation. Rather than have me quote your words- you know what you wrote- perhaps take a moment a reflect on the illogical basis your slur is based.

You might start by seeking an answer to to the question of why the Reformation swept England and Wales and stopped short at the Irish sea.
A hint: there was no theological basis for the reformation. England did not have tight political control over Ireland in the early 16th century and thus could not enforce King Henry's edict... one's very relationship with ones God was subordinated by the State.. making people like Shakespeare PINO's.
Fast forward to today- I do not tolerate, even from the well intentioned- my relationship with my church. It is the very essence of who I am. Your illiberal behavior coming from your liberal perspective is an unwelcoming surprise.
Hoping you will reconsider your position so that we may debate on a more respectful footing.

Liberator

Eloquently stated Steve.

xbjllb

"You transgress in two area: mocking conservatism on its face and through your apparent anti-catholicsm." - Steve Morgan


Sir. I do not mock conservatism on its face. I mock the hijacking of conservatism by radical totalitarians, whether their totalitarianism be politically based or religiously based on a perversion of TRUE Christianity. I ESPECIALLY mock those who don't really believe in anything at all but merely whore for fascism because it is absolutely where all the big money is.

As far as Catholicism, my definition of Christianity is and has always been simple, basic, to the root and to the point. If Christ did not teach it, live it, and die it, then it is not TRUE Christianity but something else. EVERYTHING, and I do mean EVERYTHING that anyone else has to say about it, and this goes from Paul to Peter as well as anyone beyond INCLUDING but not limited to Luther, MUST be taken with a grain of salt because these men, unlike Jesus Christ, WERE indeed men and were fallible. The more honest ones like Paul and Luther will tell you so.

I am not anti Catholic as far as Catholics themselves are concerned; I fully believe, just as I do with Mormons and any other church, that anyone who asks Jesus Christ PERSONALLY for forgiveness will receive it. And that would go from Mother Teresa to Hitler to even Dick Cheney.

I don't believe that people who use religion for powers' sake are TRUE Christians, I do NOT believe they will ever ask for forgiveness, and I believe they dam*n themselves by their own belief in the greater evil they have chosen and the overwhelming belief that what that evil has promised is right. I believe when they ask their god for forgiveness, it is Lucifer-Satan they are talking to, and that is who they've given their lives over to; the god of war, the god of self-defense, the god of profit at all cost, the god of hate, the god of intolerance, the god of racism, the god of bigotry, the god of heterosexuality, the god of "saving" "babies" which never were human in the first place, according to the non-issue Christ made it during His lifetime and what everyone of his time and the early Church itself believed.

Satan never comes as the ultimate evil; it masquerades as an angel of light.

Sir, I do not mock Catholicism; I am abhorred by its fallen condition and blasphemous made-up Luciferian written doctrines adopted by men intent on one and only one thing; keeping cash flow and wealth accumulating.

And don't feel bad; Christ Himself in the parable of the wise vs. the foolish virgins tells us STRAIGHT OUT that FULLY HALF OF ALL CHRISTENDOM will miss the wedding. I do not call out Catholicism, but every southern baptist church, every fundamentalist sect, every mega-church that ever once mentioned politics. One does not have to make themselves a GOP country club to be Goddamned.

All one has to do is GO BEYOND MERE COMMENTARY to seek after political power, at the direct opposite to the life example set out for each and every one of us Christians by Christ Himself. He RAN from politics, to the point of physically disappearing on more than one occasion when the rabble demanded political power from Him.

Beyond commentary, we are to do the same. Every politician who calls himself a Christian is in error, and I include Jimmy Carter and the Clintons in this group as well. They have made a sacrifice in achieving political power, a sacrifice few will ever know.

But at least their God IS God Almighty, and not Lucifer-Satan tarted up in a three-piece suit.

When the antiChrist comes, and he will come eventually, he will not come in this country as anything but a Rick Perry or clone. Someone who the masses will worship for the promise of "saving" "babies" as long as the eternal "holy" "wars" can continue unabated against innocents.

Catholicism is in error. So-called Christendom is in error. God is not wasteful nor sadistic. God does not waste souls on the unborn, and never did. He and ONLY He gives human life via a human soul, at birth. Adam and Eve were never in any womb NOR DID THEY NEED TO BE.

It is Lucifer and ONLY Lucifer who wants people, ESPECIALLY Christians, to believe that God is wasteful, that He is sadistic, and believe that human life begins at conception. And that God gives human souls by the millions up to miserable deaths prior to birth. Because He is insanely cruel to boot.

This is the greatest lie of our time. Perhaps of all A.D. times.

Simple logic dictates that the insanely cruel "god" of "life begins at conception" is not GOD ALMIGHTY, but LUCIFER HIMSELF.

God is also logical; PERFECTLY logical.

WELCOME to the blog, Sir. I always welcome rational discourse, and save the entertainment posts for the lost, the professionals, and the professionally lost.

xbjllb

And do not make the mistake of assuming for a second that I put the lesser evil on any sort of pedestal either. It is clear that Obama's agenda FROM DAY ONE has been keeping the wars in the Mideast going as long as possible, EVEN WHEN ENDING THEM IMMEDIATELY WOULD HAVE PROVIDED MUCH NEEDED REVENUE TO HAVE AVOIDED MOST, IF NOT ALL OF OUR FINANCIAL WOES TODAY as well as the crashes of last year and the years before.

No, Obama and his right-center position is not on any sort of pedestal; it just appears that way when you consider his alternative, absolute full out prostitution and slavish obeisance to immoral rabid mad dog corporate multinationals beholden to no flag, no country, and no people.

The very notion of the existence of a corporate entity with no obligations or responsibilities save profit at all costs to their stockholders is evil personified.

It is not evil to profit; it is evil to profit unfairly and without accountability to the PEOPLE. ALL the people. As was the case in ALL business prior to the invention of corporate law.

Corporate law is to business, what the concept of "life begins at conception" is to religion, is to what private funding of elections is to politics:

The three tenets of Luciferianism that will bring down planet and bring it to the very brink of annihilation.

xbjllb

In closing; if Jesus Christ did not say it during His lifetime, then it is a NON-ISSUE. Abortion, homosexuality, alcohol, every last bit of it.

The LAST thing He came for was to reinstate archaic Judaic Law written by men, in a Theocracy.

HIS SINGLE commandment, that which He Himself called the Greatest Commandment of all, was simple: LOVE YOUR ENEMIES.

Not kill. Not destroy. Even in self-defense. But chasten, rebuke, correct, and love.

If I didn't love the fallen and clueless here I wouldn't be endlessly wasting my time.

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