The Big Show

As I watched the Republican presidential debate held in Iowa last night, I kept thinking to myself: "Who among them is ready for primetime? Who is ready to go head-to-head with Barack Obama? Who is ready for the Big Stage?"

To some extent, they all are ready, because they've all be national figures, to varying degrees, for a while. But a presidential campaign is something else entirely. If you win the nomination, you are thrust into a situation for which there is no real preparation, except having done it before. But even if you're a candidate who has run a presidential campaign before, every election year is different, along with different national and international circumstances, different media, different staffs. Running previously is no guarantee of winning success the next time.

Last night, I saw: Mitt Romney running very, very carefully. He's running not to lose. Doesn't want to make a mistake. That's fine for a frontrunner as far as it goes. But what's removed from that strategy is fire, passion, and a willingness to take the fight to Obama.

Which brings us to Michele Bachmann. She is a natural born fighter. She was full of fierce combat, which along with her devotion to First Principles, makes her a Tea Party goddess. She was strong and authentic. She spent part of the evening engaged in hand-to-hand combat with Tim Pawlenty, and subjected him to several beatdowns. That's not to say Pawlenty didn't land some good points during the debate. But his exchanges with Bachmann diminished him, and he spent the remainder of his time clamoring to get in his talking points. He came off like a kid trying to get his dad's attention.

Newt Gingrich was on fire last night. I suppose he feels he's got nothing to lose and went for broke: he took it to the moderator, blasted the media, engaged in some podium-thumping, and got in some great substantive points. I appreciate his combative style, but the downside of it is unlikability. Given the gravity of the country's problems, likability shouldn't matter much---but it does. He could gain traction after his performance last night. I hope he does, because he'd make mincemeat of Obama in a presidential debate.

Herman Cain rocked the house a few times during the debate, but his acknowledgement that he was still "learning" about issues such as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Afghanistan didn't come off as refreshingly honest. It came off as a little too honest, lending the impression of weakness. But he's a great champion of the private sector and speaks powerfully about the free market.

Rick Santorum is a principled conservative who got in some great points when given the chance to speak. Sadly, he didn't have many chances. Ron Paul became even more of a fringe candidate, showing he's clueless on the responsibilities of American superpower---or he doesn't care. Either way, he's not going to be president.

And then there was Jon Huntsman, who was a giant zero. He can self-fund his campaign, which is why he'll stay in the race. But he's given voters precisely no reason to choose him over the other candidates.

Of course, there were some personalities not on the stage but hovering over it: Texas Governor Rick Perry, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, and possibly some others. Perry is getting in, which will change the dynamics of the race.

They all have some work to do before any of them face off with Barack Obama, who has been honing his BS routine for years. Unlike in 2008, he will have to run on his record, and it's an abysmal one. But he has become quite a master of spin and manipulation, and whoever faces him will have to be able to match him...with the truth, and with style married to conservative substance.

We'll see who emerges in the GOP race. It'll be a healthy competition. And as we watch the Republican candidates' learning curves, we should all remember that once upon a time, Barack Obama looked like a clueless twirp in his Democrat debates. In America, anything is possible.

Comments

[DJ]

I strongly agree with Monica right down to the letter ... except for her assessment of Huntsman's performance. I think he scored allot of points with the G.O.P. establishment and the media elites. That in-and-of-itself made him a big winner in the debate.

For the record, I in no way support Huntsman. I think he amounts to Obama light. Even more-so than Romney.

PS,

Kudos to Newt for slamming Chris Wallace. What a sneaky weasel Wallace can be at times.

[xbjllb]

"Always a bridesmaid, never a bride."

When are YOU going to run? This pack of losers is dreadful.

Those who won't do, criticize. Goes for me too, but I have religious prohibitions.

What are yours?

Never mind. I keep forgetting the AntiChrist is running. Always bet on the scariest, best looking most evil seeming AntiChrist to win.

That's just the bent of your party. From Nero to Hitler to today.

[LongRifle]

One idiotic post already...

Perfect assessment Monica. I agree. I really like Cain, but he has no shot. He should be an advisor at least to whoever wins.

[LongRifle]

Anyone who thinks they were appointed by God to post on the memo is one sick person and desperately needs help...

[thebuckstopshere]

ya know, alot of times savvy leaders say things to NOT GET THEIR CONSTITUENCY JACKED...........

if it's true Obama will have to run on his abysmal record, that job creating stat in Texas is going to be hard to beat, imo...........

GIVE US A JOB CREATING CAPITALIST 2012

[gringoman]

"And anybody who's been around the world knows how different attitudes are outside the uS. Maybe they're too humble, or too polite, or too mannerly or whatever. But the attitude does tend to be different (exceptions to all rules.)" ( --Gringoman)

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Yes, the first generation Mexicans are extremely hard workers. But are their kids? The data reflects the offspring of these hard working immigrants, in large part, wind up as net tax consumers rather than wealth producers*. Even Princess, on TMG, acknowledged the fact that Mexicans have a worse high school graduation rate than blacks. And to think these are the new influx of immigrants the government is counting on to fund thus save the entitlement programs? Does Gringoman really think third world immigration will save the Republic?

* http://www.amazon.com/Mexifornia-Becoming-Victor-Davis-Hanson/dp/1893554732

Posted by: DJ | August 12, 2011 at 08:19 AM

No, DJ, I never said that. You're trying to read my mind again---a mind that's been around the world more than once. And I will repeat that the Right can be just as simplistic as the Left. Its mantras don't even include a Colonel West or Thomas Sowell who are worth hundreds of white Marxoboobys and their black hack scam artists.

FYI A big reason that media "conservatives" are risk-averse in defying liberal racism: they know that the Left lives on its own brand of racism and will punish anyone who defies the ROE it mandates. Even Hannity knows what can happen to a career as big as his if he doesn't tread carefully. (Even so, he was still game enough to play the word "NIgger" over his air, in connection with a Bernard Goldberg book advocating the airing of what is forbidden. Under the semi-Stalinist PC tyranny Americans now submit to, that was pretty daring of Hannity.) And what happens if someone defies the PC code? A biggie like Don Imus was almost destroyed. Did the Americanos save him from the Lib piranha! Hell no. He had to hire million-dollar lawyers and also eat Al Sharpton's fecal matter, which he did to his shame.

Now tell me about the lesser mediacks treading carefully. And I'll tell you about the Americanos who will let them drown if they are tossed overboard by the PC police---the same PC enforcers who Marxobooby jerks channel even here, ad nauseam, with their filthy race=baiting liberal racism---not only filthy, but evil---the clever opposite side of the Third Reich coin, as you would expect from Cain and Abel socialists.

[jay]

"http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/reagan-proved-deficits-dont-matter

"Reagan," Vice President Dick Cheney famously declared in 2002, "proved deficits don't matter." Unless, that is, a Democrat is in the White House. After all, while Ronald Reagan TRIPLED the national debt and George W. Bush DOUBLED it again, each Republican was rewarded with a second term in office. But as the Gallup polling data show, concern over the federal deficit hasn't been this high since Democratic budget balancer Bill Clinton was in office. All of which suggest the Republicans' born-again disdain for deficits ranks among the greatest - and most successful - political double-standards in recent memory."

"As predicted at the time, Reagan's massive $749 billion supply-side tax cuts in 1981 quickly produced even more massive annual budget deficits. Combined with his rapid increase in defense spending, Reagan delivered not the balanced budgets he promised, but record-settings deficits. Ultimately, Reagan was forced to repeatedly raised taxes to avert financial catastrophe, including the last major bipartisan tax code overhaul in 1986. By the time he left office in 1989, Ronald Reagan nonetheless more than EQUALED the entire debt burden produced by the previous 200 years of American history. It's no wonder the Gipper cited the skyrocketing deficits he bequeathed to America as perhaps HIS GREATEST REGRET."
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[jay]

Santorum felt that while Weiner should have resigned. Felt it was okay and good GOP politics to warn Ensign about the media learning about Ensighn's scandal.

Paul for resaons Monica described

Romney thinks that corporations and people are the same. And, corporations don't put money in their pockets.But, in the pockets of the people.

Bachmann is clueless on many things.

Perry will have alot of Reverend Wrights baggage.

In 2008, the GOP ran on their record. Which is why they lost dearly.

The best GOP candidate will have to be from one of the others.

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Anyone who thinks they were appointed by God to post on the memo is one sick person and desperately needs help...

Posted by: LongRifle | August 12, 2011 at 12:06 PM
The right is trying their best to downplay Perry's Army of God.
Who call Texas ,"the Prophet State"
The movement's top prophets and apostles believe they have a direct line to God. Through them, they say, He communicates specific instructions and warnings. When mankind fails to heed the prophecies, the results can be catastrophic: earthquakes in Japan, terrorist attacks in New York, and economic collapse. On the other hand, they believe their God-given decrees have ended mad cow disease in Germany and produced rain in drought-stricken Texas.
They feel church and state should be the same.
Feel the statue of liberty is demon worshipping. Because of it's ties to the freemasons.

The Statue of Liberty in New York harbour was presented in 1884 as a gift from the French Grand Orient Temple Masons to the Masons of America in celebration of the centenary of the first Masonic Republic.

[jay]

if it's true Obama will have to run on his abysmal record, that job creating stat in Texas is going to be hard to beat, imo...........

GIVE US A JOB CREATING CAPITALIST 2012

Posted by: thebuckstopshere | August 12, 2011 at 01:11 PM
And, that huge budget deficit in Texas is one reason why many Texans, Conservatives, too. Are against Perry.

[jay]

even here, ad nauseam, with their filthy race=baiting liberal racism---not only filthy, but evil---the clever opposite side of the Third Reich coin, as you would expect from Cain and Abel socialists.

Posted by: gringoman | August 12, 2011 at 02:05 PM

The constant reverence to race, being done by several of the memo regulars is, ad nauseum.

The how can we turn this subject into a "race" one.

[jay]

And, what plan do these regulars, and others like them have. To turn this country back into a one race nation?

When, whites stopped that by comeing here in the first place?

[jay]

"President Obama's agenda, ambitious as it may be, is responsible for only a sliver of the deficits, despite what many of his Republican critics are saying," the New York Times' David Leonhardt explained in 2009, adding, "The economic growth under George W. Bush did not generate nearly enough tax revenue to pay for his agenda, which included tax cuts, the Iraq war, and Medicare prescription drug coverage." That fall, former REAGAN Treasury official Bruce Bartlett offered just that kind of honesty to the born again deficit virgins of his Republican Party. Noting that the FY2009 deficit of $1.4 trillion was solely due to lower tax revenues and not increased spending, Bartlett concluded:

"I think there are grounds on which to criticize the Obama administration's anti-recession actions. But spending too much is not one of them. Indeed, based on this analysis, it is pretty obvious that spending - real spending on things like public works - has been grossly inadequate. The idea that Reagan-style tax cuts would have done anything is just nuts."

Which is exactly right. Thanks to the steep recession, as the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and others have documented time and again, the overall federal tax burden as a percentage of GDP is now below 15%, "levels that low have not been seen since 1950." And as Jonathan Cohn and Paul Krugman each explained, it is not a mythical Obama "spending binge" but the drastic loss of revenue combined with automatic increases in mandated safety net outlays that is producing the current budget gaps.

Nevertheless, only now - with Democrat Barack Obama in the Oval Office - Republicans like John Boehner warn Americans that "unsustainable debt and deficits threaten the prosperity of our children." But despite their fear-mongering, the GOP would make the situation much, much worse. December's two year tax cut compromise will add $800 billion to the deficits this year and next. And by making the Bush tax cuts permanent and lowering the top rate to 25%, the Ryan budget just passed by the House would drain over $4 trillion from the U.S. Treasury.

There is so little that Conservatives understand.

[LongRifle]

Let me comment on Jay's bilge: Yawn...

Yet another HUGE DEFEAT for the Left's Obamacare Progressive/Socialist/Liberal Demonrat agenda today. America is re-founding itself in the spirit of 1776, and the liberal lemmings are wetting themselves again.

Quick !! Lots of made-up stats to show how the Masons in Ethiopia supported health care in 1321 BC...lol

[xbjllb]

"Anyone who thinks they were appointed by God to post on the memo is one sick person and desperately needs help..." - longrifle

There you go again damning yourself to hell.

Borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring.

[jay]

Yet another HUGE DEFEAT for the Left's Obamacare Progressive/Socialist/Liberal Demonrat agenda today. America is re-founding itself in the spirit of 1776, and the liberal lemmings are wetting themselves again.

Quick !! Lots of made-up stats to show how the Masons in Ethiopia supported health care in 1321 BC...lol

Posted by: LongRifle | August 12, 2011 at 04:37 PM

It's funny the lengths will go to deny something!

"Made-up stats"
"Government controlled media"
"Demopub data"

Their favorite response?
"will find some opinions to prove you wrong!"

I learned while having discussions with Neo-nazis on Youtube.
"If, you want to show someone's ignorance. Let them speak."
The more I look. The more I find of Reagan's own people. That say Reagan had it wrong about alot of things. Problem was, both Bush's believed him.

While Clinton knew otherwise:
"crystal ball to claim:

"Clearly this is a job killer in the short run. The revenues forecast for this budget will not materialize; the costs of this budget will be greater than what is forecast. The deficit will be worse, and it is not a good omen for the American economy."

Most dramatic of all was Texas Senator Phil Gramm. The same man who led the 1990's crusade to gut regulation of Wall Street and the IRS and later called America a "nation of whiners," boldly - and wrongly - predicted:

"I believe hundreds of thousands of people are going to lose their jobs...I believe Bill Clinton will be one of those people."

As it turned out, not so much. In 1996, Bill Clinton buried Bob Dole. Then in his second term, he buried the budget deficit as well."

While Bush:
"Then came George W. Bush, who promised in his 2001 message to Congress:

At the end of those 10 years, we will have paid down all the debt that is available to retire. That is more debt repaid more quickly than has ever been repaid by any nation at any time in history.

Instead, President Bush produced red ink as far as the eye can see. After inheriting a federal budget in the black and CBO forecast of a $5.6 trillion surplus over 10 years, President George W. Bush quickly set about dismantling the progress made under Bill Clinton. Even with two unfunded wars and the similarly unpaid Medicare prescription drug benefit, Bush's $1.4 trillion tax cut in 2001, followed by a $550 billion second round in 2003, accounted for half of the yawning budget deficits he produced. As the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities explained, if made permanent those Bush tax cuts if made permanent, would add more to the national debt over the next decade than the impact of Iraq, Afghanistan, the recession, the stimulus and TARP - combined."

No more Conservative presidents. they have damaged the economy long enough!

http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/reagan-proved-deficits-dont-matter

[jay]

America is re-founding itself in the spirit of 1776,

Posted by: LongRifle | August 12, 2011 at 04:37 PM

As several green tea baggers have told me,"our founding fathers didn't have to pay any gasoline taxes.! LOL!
Their comments are priceless!

[jay]

Standard and Poors punctures Michele Bachmann’s blissful fantasy
By Greg Sargent

Wow, what colossally bad timing. Here’s Michele Bachmann at the debate last night, insisting that the Standard and Poors downgrade proved that she was right to oppose raising the debt ceiling:

“I think we just heard from Standard & Poor’s. When they dropped — when they dropped our credit rating, what they said is, we don’t have an ability to repay our debt. That’s what the final word was from them.

“I was proved right in my position: We should not have raised the debt ceiling. And instead, we should have cut government spending, which was not done. And then we needed to get — get our spending priorities in order.”

Unfortunately for Bachmann, Standard and Poors has now clarified that it’s actually people like her, who oppose raising the debt ceiling and aren’t mindful of the consequences of default, that were a primary reason for the downgrade:

A Standard & Poor’s director said for the first time Thursday that one reason the United States lost its triple-A credit rating was that several lawmakers expressed skepticism about the serious consequences of a credit default — a position put forth by some Republicans.

Without specifically mentioning Republicans, S&P senior director Joydeep Mukherji said the stability and effectiveness of American political institutions were undermined by the fact that “people in the political arena were even talking about a potential default,” Mukherji said.

“That a country even has such voices, albeit a minority, is something notable,” he added. “This kind of rhetoric is not common amongst AAA sovereigns.”

Let’s try to wrap our heads around this. Bachmann’s opposition to raising the debt ceiling is one of the most important planks in her presidential platform. She has touted it in two ads, presenting it as a sign of her courage. She repeated it again last night at the debate, asserting that opposing the hike is “the right thing to do,” and even cited Standard and Poors’s downgrade as proof of her superior grasp of our fiscal dilemma.

Less than 24 hours later, the news emerges that S & P has confirmed that it was precisely this opposition to raising the debt ceiling, and the cavalier attitude towards default exhibited by the likes of Bachmann, that led to our downgrade.

The question of what led S & P to downgrade our credit rating is a matter of verifiable fact. And S & P has now confirmed that one of the central rationales of her candidacy is a key reason for their downgrade. What will she say when confronted with this fact? How will she explain it away? Will anyone even ask her to try to explain it?

In a rational universe, this would be devastating to her candidacy. Of course, the world of GOP primary politics is anything but a rational universe.

Posted by: Liberator | August 12, 2011 at 05:15 PM
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[thebuckstopshere]

not good for the cause imo

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/08/12/palin-%e2%80%9ccould-i-support-somebody-like-mitt-romney-yeah%e2%80%9d/

GIVE US REAL CHOICE, NOT OBAMA LITE 2012

[gringoman]

Wait. No sense of shame among socialists, like one who would keep crawling back to where it's unwelcome? Hold on. Maybe such socialists and crypto-commies aren't totally shameless, after all, despite being such examples of human pests. Maybe there is some slight vestige of shame. What's the one thing that a socialist weasel will not "factualize" while droning on and on with its smarmy class war and race-baiting?

It won't admit to being a socialist.

Admittedly, shame wouldn't be the major factor. Typical lefty deviousness is obviously more important. That's why you have to qualify it as having, possibly, "some slight vestige of shame."

True, very slight, but perhaps measurable by psychiatrists.

[gringoman]

Looks like the Marxocrats are jumping on Perry already. Yesterday I posted the following...

Re Perry and the Obamarxists:

Watch their reactions in coming weeks. If relatively mild, it means they see no problemo.

OTOH, if they and SLIME (Socialist Liberal Media) start to get real vicious real quick, it means they are scared, clearly nervous.

If we start to hear that Rick Perry dreams of leading an Army of God to Washington where they plan to surround the US Congress, it means the Dem panic is on.

Another give-away: If they spend more time sliming Rick Perry than Mitt Obamneycare.

Posted by: gringoman | August 12, 2011 at 12:59 AM

We're not yet getting anything like PERRY THE CHRISTIAN CRUSADER, AND HIS ARMY OF GOD HUNTING FOR WHITE SOCIALISTS. Obama brain trust David Axelrod (originally from the Lower East Side where Communist hero Leon Trotsky once lived, is trying to keep it "calm" at this stage in the coming socialist SLIMEfest.

////AXELROD////US President Barack Obama's top reelection strategist charged Friday that Republican White House hopeful and Texas Governor Rick Perry had "very little to do" with his state's economic success.

gringoNOTE: For the rest of the Marxocrat Talking Points on Perry, either google or, if you waste any minute of your life with the drones, you could check out the Marxobooby "Truthiness Points."

[thebuckstopshere]

last I was aware for the last 2 years the Texans created over 1/2 the jobs in the US...........Perry was & still is gov...........think he might have had something to do with the success..............

GIVE US REAL CHOICE 2012

[gringoman]

I'm not sure what's more stupid or dishonest--the content of that article on Bachmann and S & P, or anybody thinking that it proves a point.

1. Bachmann is nowhere mentioned by S & P.
2. The author yaps about Bachmann's "downgrade" talk as being "one" of the causes of S & P decision/

a. The author fails to mention the other causes, and whether the "downgrade" talk mattered compared to the other causes, and if it mattered, how much did it matter in comparison to the other reasons.

3. No wonder the author wasn't honest enough, or maybe too lazy, to do his work of telling us what the other reasons were.

a. Otherwise he would have had to disclose that a MAJOR reason given by S & P was the problem of SPENDING and the signs that US Congress was not serious about controlling SPENDING.

4. But even in limiting his shoddy piece to "talk" about "downgrade," he wasn't honest. He mentioned Bachmann taking about "downgrade." That was doing his job, but not enough of his job. He just never got around to mentioning Obama's well documented blatherings about "downgrade."

Maybe he just didn't have enough time to get around to The One and other Dems on the danger of "downgrade"? And I thought this guy was intellectually above the level of a Marxobooby troll.

[gringoman]

gringoNOTE: Remember when the pogwessives were constantly droning away with how the US must become like Europe? Oh, Eurozone so "sophisticated," so, well,
socialistic, with its grand welfare schemes, its socialized medicine, its....yadda yadda....The U.S. so stupidly capitalist, so backward in comparison, had so much to learn from the Euro socialists (who were barely paying for their own military, clevery using US military largesse, while of course denouncing the US "imperialists" and "Bible thumpers" and yadda-yadda. And now, as the socialist chickens come back to the commune to roost, it's not just in little Greece anymore, or little Ireland anymore. Could be far bigger Spain, even bigger Italy, and, OMG, can it be, FRANCE TOO?... (while the Obamunists and college professors in Washington are still trying to ram the ways of the Eurozone down America's throat, as they did with their 2000 almost unintelligible pages of Obamanationcare in the middle of the night.......)

/////This week, French banking stocks have suffered huge declines as panic about their exposure to peripheral euro zone economies spreads.

RELATED LINKS

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The mass sell-off has led to a ban on short-selling in France, Italy, Spain and Belgium for at least 15 days, starting Friday.

French banks have $450 billion of exposure to Italy, according to King, who doesn't think Italy will end up defaulting.

Moorad Choudhry, head of business treasury at Royal Bank of Scotland [RBS-LN 26.49 1.22 (+4.83%) ] , who "doesn't really want" to be in French banks, told CNBC: "We've got governments that are spending beyond their means and banning short-selling is irrelevant and pointless.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44102149

[gringoman]

Roger Stone
@RogerJStoneJr Miami Beach, FL
Reaganite, Libertarian, Conservative, Republican,Political Consultant, man about town, dandy, political analyst. I know a trick or two..
http://www.STONEzone.com

[gringoman]

RogerJStoneJr Roger Stone
How could you get any whiter than Newt Gingrich? He thinks Wonder Bread is soulfood.

[gringoman]

RogerJStoneJr Roger Stone
Mitt Romney in debate ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
11 Aug

[gringoman]

RogerJStoneJr Roger Stone
IRONY--LBJ had JFK killed according to Jackie--and they drove Nixon from office over a third rate burglary

[gringoman]

RogerJStoneJr Roger Stone
Will BIG Pharma Ties doom Rick Perry ? #gop #rickperry #romney #huntsman

[gringoman]

RogerJStoneJr Roger Stone
Trump on REDSTATE " Global Warming is b*llshit" @realdonaldtrump
3 Aug

[gringoman]

RogerJStoneJr Roger Stone
RT @Limrintz: FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate http://bit.ly/bye6Z War not FDR Socialism saved USA
31 Jul

[jay]

It won't admit to being a socialist.

Admittedly, shame wouldn't be the major factor. Typical lefty deviousness is obviously more important. That's why you have to qualify it as having, possibly, "some slight vestige of shame."

True, very slight, but perhaps measurable by psychiatrists.

Posted by: gringoman | August 12, 2011 at 10:27 PM

Have noticed several on the memo that won't admit to being a racist.

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Looks like the Marxocrats are jumping on Perry already. Yesterday I posted the following... Gringoman

As, I posted yesterday of Perry's link to a religious movement, which can only be described as Reverend Wrights.

Who feels that the statue of Liberty is pagen worship.
Maybe that's what the right wants.
Fine with me.

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last I was aware for the last 2 years the Texans created over 1/2 the jobs in the US...........Perry was & still is gov...........think he might have had something to do with the success..............

GIVE US REAL CHOICE 2012

Posted by: thebuckstopshere | August 12, 2011 at 11:15 PM

AND, the huge budget deficit that Texas is facing.
Which is why many conservatives don't like Perry.

[jay]

What does Trump know about science?

And, what Jackie said about LBJ and JFK?

Next will be tales of Atlantis!

The continent of Atlantis, was an Island
Which lay before the great flood
In the area we now call, the Atlantic ocean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leI7sfmipuI

[jay]

RogerJStoneJr Roger Stone
RT @Limrintz: FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate http://bit.ly/bye6Z War not FDR Socialism saved USA
31 Jul

Posted by: gringoman | August 13, 2011 at 12:03 AM

That can be debated. But, we do know that the CAUSE of the depression was ALL REPUBLICAN!

PRESIDENT REPUBLICAN
HOUSE REPUBLICAN
SENATE REPUBLICAN

[Liberator]

Roger Stone@RogerJStoneJr Miami Beach, FL

Reaganite, Libertarian, Conservative, Republican,Political Consultant, man about town, dandy, political analyst. I know a trick or two..
http://www.STONEzone.com

Posted by: gringoman | August 12, 2011 at 11:52 PM
==

Ed Rollins (Michelle Bachmann's campaign manager) on Roger Stone:

"Ed Rollins, who served as President Reagan’s first political director, said,“Roger was a fringe player around town. He always had this reputation of being a
guy who exaggerated things, who pretended he did things. Roger was never on Nixon’s staff, was never on the White House staff. I don’t think you’ll find
anyone in the business who trusts him. Roger was always a little rat.”
http://stonezone.com/NewYorker-Toobin-Stone.pdf

The quote is from a New Yorker article that Stone himself prominently features on his own website stonezone.com

[DJ]

"FYI A big reason that media "conservatives" are risk-averse in defying liberal racism: they know that the Left lives on its own brand of racism and will punish anyone who defies the ROE it mandates." ( --Gringoman)

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Gringoman,

What you say is very true. But what can we glean from that? Well, what I glean is the mainstream conservative talking heads are CONTROLLED OPPOSITION. They operate withing the framework of political correctness. .

Sometimes they flirt with the edges, leading the audience to beleive they will cross the PC line only to disappoint. I find that both dissapointing and frustrating.

But, of course, the conservative talking heads are well trained. They've no doubt attended many diversity classes. Moreover, they know if defy they liberal racism, they will be labeled a racist; or worse yet, a Nazi - that is a career ender to be sure. This keeps the mainstream conservatives in line. They fear the PC Thought Police. Hence, in an attempt to inoculate themselves from the charge of racism, they continually go out of their way to prove they are not racist. They even go so far as adopting and promoting the "anti-racist" agenda (we all know anti-racist means anti-white bigotry). For all practical purposes, the mainstream conservatives, in many ways, unwittingly carry the water for the liberal racists.

Of course their are rare exceptions to the rule such as Pat Buchanan.

Buchanan, a mainstream conservative, defies liberal racism on a regular basis.

For instance:

The Fire This Time—Pat Buchanan on Flash Mobs
By Patrick J. Buchanan

http://www.vdare.com/buchanan/110811_flash_mobs.htm

PS,

Thank God for the Internet. The PC Thought Police have yet to find a way to keep the truth tellers from disseminating the truth, thus countering the lies of the Left.

[DJ]

From The Daily Bell website:

Obama Lies 7 Times In Under 2 Minutes!

Friday, August 12, 2011 – by TheChannelOfLiberty

"Earlier today, we ran a rather colorful editorial by Dr. Adrian Krieg titled The Dirt! In that editorial Krieg exposes an embarrassing list of character flaws exhibited by America's leading political class. And naturally, Barack Obama doesn't escape the clutches of Krieg's rather venomous pen. He writes:

We could simply not forget our President. After all, he promised us the most open and legitimate administration in history. We got CHANGE instead with the most corrupt, secretive, lying, stonewalling, cover up, scandal-based Presidency - one that exhibits a total disregard of law, the US Constitution and the American Bill of Rights. It is the worst administration in our history. I thought Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush were bad. And they certainly were - they were shysters. But Barack Obama takes the cake. He lied in regards to the Blogo matter, he lies daily on the economy, employment, finance, housing, income and anything else I can think of. In fact, Obama tells so many lies that he can't even remember what he said last week and continuously trips himself up on falsehoods he espoused just the day before.

So we decided to take a quick trip around the 'Net to see if we could find a video that gives some examples of the kind of lies Dr. Krieg credits to Mr. Obama. Lo and behold it didn't take too long to come up with a vast selection from which to choose and we decided this one from his previous presidential campaign might suffice. Hopefully the voting public all get to see "performances" like this one prior to the upcoming 2012 election. Maybe then the voters could do a little character comparison between an actor like Obama and someone with real integrity, like Dr. Ron Paul.

Without further ado, courtesy of The Channel of Liberty, Obama's lies …

see video:

http://www.thedailybell.com/2794/Obama-Lies-7-Times-In-Under-2-Minutes

[LongRifle]

That can be debated. But, we do know that the CAUSE of the depression was ALL REPUBLICAN!

JAY

More opinion posted as fact, like all Marxists.

[LongRifle]

FACT: Democrats secure majority in both houses on January 2007
FACT: The "great recession" begins December 2007

Look it up.

FACT: Ignoring the will of "We the People", Dems push through Obamacare, which was ruled unconstitutional; just like the Tea Party said it was.

[jay]

Thank God for the Internet. The PC Thought Police have yet to find a way to keep the truth tellers from disseminating the truth, thus countering the lies of the Left.

Posted by: DJ | August 13, 2011 at 09:10 AM

Another truth teller is that the right is just as racist as anyone else.

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That can be debated. But, we do know that the CAUSE of the depression was ALL REPUBLICAN!

JAY

More opinion posted as fact, like all Marxists.

Posted by: LongRifle | August 13, 2011 at 11:37 AM

As DJ once said. facts are stuborn things. That Conservatives are not willing to accept.

The years leading up to the depression. The Senate and house were BOTH controlled by Republicans. And, the president was Republican as well.

First Coolidge, then Hoover.

It's the right that tries to use opionins as fact. That's all they have.
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Such as Gringoman and others on the right can do all they can to deny Liberators post about it was people like Bachmann yelling to default. That was the main reason for S&Ps rating to AA+. But, the fact is STILL THERE!

[jay]

FACT: Ignoring the will of "We the People", Dems push through Obamacare, which was ruled unconstitutional; just like the Tea Party said it was.

Posted by: LongRifle | August 13, 2011 at 11:43 AM

The will of the people said not to default.

The Green tea party said otherwise.

The S&P listened to the TP. And, gave us the AA+ rating. For people NOT taking the situation, seriuosly enough.

[gringoman]

PERRY: INSTANT FRONT-RUNNER?

gringoNOTE: Yes, it can happen. Occasionally a liberal can be almost as insightful as gringoVision. E.g. The following take on Rick Perry. Not that I agree with it totally, but it's not bad for libniki.....

///////Rick Perry and Barack Obama disagree about policy. But as Michael Tomasky argues, a race between them would end up as the biggest battle yet in the culture war.
Aug 13, 2011

So in comes Rick Perry. He will surely be an instant co-frontrunner along with Mitt Romney. In fact I would argue, and will one paragraph down, that he’s basically the instant frontrunner. So for the sake of argument, let’s go ahead and think about a Perry-Obama race. Such a race would be about, yes, the economy first and foremost, and deficits and health care and all the rest. But an Obama-Perry race would be something else, too: a war between the two Americas, each side represented by its respective cultural standard-bearer, each side’s foot soldiers absolutely smoldering with contempt for everything the other guy stands for and indeed the way he looks. We’ve never quite had that before, not in this way, so it’s worth thinking about.

First, I think Perry becomes the frontrunner, even ahead of Mitt Romney, for three main reasons. No. 1, he fires up large chunks of the base in a way Romney does not. Romney has “default candidate” written all over him, but evangelicals and other hard-shell conservatives are never going to love a Massachusetts Mormon. They’ll love Perry. No. 2, Perry can quickly become the “establishment” candidate because the establishment of today’s GOP is not based on Wall Street or the heartland but in Texas—Karl Rove, the oilmen, the various billionaires who prime those GOP pumps. No. 3 is speculation rather than fact, but I believe Perry will demonstrate pretty quickly that he’s a better campaigner than Romney. It won’t be hard.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/13/rick-perry-taking-over-for-george-w-bush-in-the-culture-war.html?om_rid=NsfaZ3&om_mid=_BORpmlB8ctKsQd

ps SLIME (Socialist Liberal Media) may not go Full Slime on Perry right away. The "Army of God" stuff and the leftniki blabbings on Perry's joke about "secession" etc will be handled mainly by the entry level help, like the Marxobooby trolls. (As we know, Monica still hesitates to deal with them by flushing.)

gringoNOTE: What is clear from reading between the lines of DAILY BEAST: If it becomes Perry v Obama, you can be absolutely certain that the liberal racists will out-do themselves in the kind of race-baiting slime that fits in perfectly with Goebbels technique in Hitler's Third Reich. The Commie socialists simply reverse the target. The Nazis targeted non-white. The Obamunists will target white and utterly race bait any criticism of Obamunism. Otherwise, the techniques of Left socialists and Right Socialists are strikingly parallel.

[gringoman]

NO NEED TO FEED THE SOCIALIST TROLL

JUST ROCK N' SCROLL

[gringoman]

Tomasky's insight is impressive here, especially for a libnik who has to earn a living with SLIME. He doesn't say it, exactly, but he's weaving deftly around a very provoative insight: In the Hollywood/corporate/socialist and Lib Elitenik-- dominated Culture Wars, the white American heterosexual male has been pilloried and mocked relentlessly, and now, somebody like Rick Perry, quite possibly, is about to launch Operation Pay-back.

[gringoman]

Guardian Environment Network
Rick Perry to delight climate sceptics by running for president

Texas governor Rick Perry's bid for the Republican nomination has cheered climate sceptics who share his view that global warming is a 'phony mess'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/aug/12/rick-perry-climate-sceptics-president

[gringoman]

The Fire This Time—Pat Buchanan on Flash Mobs
By Patrick J. Buchanan

http://www.vdare.com/buchanan/110811_flash_mobs.htm

PS,

Thank God for the Internet. The PC Thought Police have yet to find a way to keep the truth tellers from disseminating the truth, thus countering the lies of the Left.

Posted by: DJ | August 13, 2011 at 09:10 AM

DJ,

If you noticed, Mayor Nutter of Philly dropped a bomb on the white Stalinist PC Police recently, mocking the lib patronizing of black punks who don't even know how to dress and present themselves for a job, but sure know how to be "sperm donors" instead of fathers.

Previously I named Colonel West and Thomas Sowell as examples of black men who are worth thousands of vile white liberal racists and their shameless Marxoboobys.

Now I include Mayor Nutter of Philly in that Hall of Dignity with West and Sowell etc.

[DJ]

Now I include Mayor Nutter of Philly in that Hall of Dignity with West and Sowell etc.

Posted by: gringoman | August 13, 2011 at 01:00 PM

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Indeed.

Mayor Nutter also said: "You've damaged your own race," said Mayor Michael Nutter to the black youths of Philadelphia..."

Of course Mayor Nutter is essentially correct. Those black thugs have damaged the already damaged reputation they've already rightfully earned.

But ask yourself, Gringoman: what would have been the reaction of all the blacks Marxists, white liberal racists, and even the mainstream conservatives if a WHITE mayor would have scolded WHITE thugs by telling them they are a disgrace to their WHITE race? What would the reaction be then? Of course we already know the answer....

PS,

Bill Cosby has been telling black youf to get their acts together for decades now, but to no avail it seems.

[xbjllb]

It's official! AntiChrist RP, as in RIP World, announces, runs for US President. Absolute evil beats evil pretending to be good.

Real GOP beats GOP mole.

Don't bother voting. Done deal.

[blackjustice2012]

@Monica, you need to be spanked repeatly. You always spewing your hatred for Pres. Obama.
Get it through your head; Barack Obama is not a liberal; Obama is acting as moderate republican; Obama continues to give into your right wing nuts.
I encourage you and your listeners to logon to
www.987kissfm.com/openline tomorrow Sundays at 10am
Also tune into Al Sharpton show on MSNBC and Allen Colmes talk radio show you might just learn something.

[blackjustice2012]

@Monica; I can imagine seeing you being chained, whipped, and peed on until you submit to us liberals.
Your continual hatered for our President Obama needs to stop. Obama is not a liberal; he has conducted himself as a moderate republican.
Listen to some voices of wisdom AL Sharpton,your brother in law Allen Colmes, Earl Caldwell, and www.987kissfm/openline/

[DJ]

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