Speaker of the House John Boehner put forth an ill-conceived plan after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid killed the ONLY plan that would deal with the debt for real: Cut, Cap and Balance. Why the onus is STILL on the House GOP after they passed a repeal of ObamaCare, a 2012 budget with real structural reforms, and Cut, Cap and Balance is beyond me. But here they are, falling into the trap of producing yet another plan that is actually worse than bad. Boehner's first draft "cut" a measly $850 billion over 10 years. Excuse me....where is the $1.2 trillion he promised?
When all Hades broke loose, he went back to the drawing board and produced the Son of Boehner, a second draft which supposedly "cuts" $917 billion. To put this in perspective, the federal government spends $10 billion A DAY.
This plan is truly awful. Here's my pal Erick Erickson at RedState.com explaining why it must be torpedoed this morning:
"John Boehner's plan will get to the Senate. Harry Reid's plan isn't even in final form and has not even started making its way through the Senate's arcane processes. It is a trap.
"Harry Reid will amend John Boehner's plan and include parts of Reid's own plan that make tax increases even more likely than Boehner's already does.
"Senate Democrats last night were beginning to talk about adding the Gang of Six's very bad plan to it as well - a trigger that would be engaged should the Democrats then refuse to reform entitlements, i.e. a trigger the Democrats will gladly engage because the Gang of Six plan raises taxes, including getting rid of the employer credit for active duty military reservists and raising the capital gains tax from 15% to 28%.
"Then the Senate Democrats will send John Boehner back his own plan and dare John Boehner to kill his very own proposal. Should he try, the GOP will look as hardline and unwilling to compromise as John Boehner's acolytes have been accusing conservatives of being this week.
"In other words, John Boehner, once he sends his plan to the Senate, will yet again get played and the GOP will be forced to either accept Harry Reid's awful changes or be blamed for causing the nation's default - the very thing the GOP has sought to avoid.
"Oh, and should the GOP fold and pass the modified Boehner plan, they'll still get blamed for us losing our credit rating. Even with Boehner's revisions, the Congressional Budget Office says the plan doesn't cut even $1 trillion. It doesn't meet S&P's requirements.
"Well done, Republicans.
"The only thing we can do is call our congressmen and prevent them from voting for this suicide pact."
RedState.com has set up an Action Center from which you can call your member of Congress to stop the Boehner plan. Go to www.RedState.com/action and call them ASAP. Tell them to oppose the Boehner plan and to FIGHT for Cut, Cap and Balance. Before it's too late.
If we wish to return to a state of ethical and moral integrity, we will need to learn self control.
Remember : you cannot fight for the truth in your good pants.
Posted by: Dgscol | July 28, 2011 at 08:10 AM
Excellent summery of what's happening in Congress.
Posted by: Chuck Lothrop | July 28, 2011 at 08:12 AM
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Watch the tax-and-spend trolls show up any minute now.. tax da rich, yada yada.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | July 28, 2011 at 08:54 AM
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‘RIGHT OUT OF ATLAS SHRUGGED’: HEAR AN EXASPERATED ALABAMA BUSINESSMAN TELL THE FEDS – ‘I’M JUST QUITTING’
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/right-out-of-atlas-shrugged-hear-an-exasperated-alabama-businessman-tell-the-feds-im-just-quitting/
Even more LIEberal stimulus. This time it's the enviro-moonbats' turn to kill even more enterprise and jobs.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | July 28, 2011 at 09:05 AM
The following is from The Blaze story that Ummah linked to. I repost because it shows how Nanny will crush coal mining in Alabama, and so exemplifies the Democrat/Marxobot/socialist strategy of how to destroy liberty and free enterprise,(under the usual nice sounding rubrics of "benefitting the people," of course, "protecting the people," of course.
COAL MINE ENTRePRENEUR: “We take care of our equipment and take care of our people,” Douglas said. “The regulations make coal miners out to be criminals; but we’re not outlaws. Coal mining is an art. I have a civil engineering degree; Ronnie has a mining engineering degree. It’s not wildcat whiskey we’re making; this is drinking whiskey we got.”
Bryant pointed to less stringent environmental regulations in countries such as China, saying that the U.S. is falling behind even though it has abundant resources. “But you can’t get to them,” he said, adding that while there are concerns over dwindling wildlife populations, “people are becoming the endangered species.”
gringoNOTE: Some points:
1. This is socialism in action, USA.
2. This is exactly the strategy pf the Marxist Macdaddy
in the WH (including even some of the bigger capitalists like Obama crony GE Jeffrey Imelt)
3. This is also what Monica's Republicans, while condemning, often roll over for (as Monica herself at least seems to admit now.)
4. This is also the troll trash that Monica lets defile her website---these are all little socialists, skulking behind factoids, sometimes even a lunatic avataring a Jesus robe while spewing its toilet mouth, using aggressive fascist techniques while bloviating about "the fascists."
5. The very same socialist strategy was used to remove Glenn Beck from Fox, The Soros workers and other socialists use a fascist "swarm the advertisers" tactic to pressure Fox. (That's why this Alabama story is from Beck's The Blaze, not from Fox.)
MARK LEVIN
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THE DRONES!
Posted by: gringoman | July 28, 2011 at 09:58 AM
What does John Boehner have in common with the 'Blond Jihadi' of Norway, Anders Behring Breivik?
Takes gringoVision to make that connection, you say? So be it.
See the Internet comment below, which analyzes Breivik as surpassing the muslim jihadis at their own ruthless game. It asserts that a Westerner even does THAT better.
Now you see the gringomanic analogy with Boehner? Not quite? Here, let me me help.
The point is clear. The point is that a Republican (Boehner etc) is better than the Marxocrats (Obama etc)
at rolling the Americans into cradle-to-grave tax and spend socialism. When the dramatic moment of truth comes, when it is possible to stand up and turn the tide, facing probable market turmoil etc, the Republican makes his choice: he goes with the socialist flow, thereby avoiding the dangerous currents of liberty. In that sense, the RINO even does socialism better than the Democrats do, just as Breivik surpassed the usual run of jihadi.
Now is it getting clearer?
Here's the look at Breivik, surpassing his muslim counerparts in terror.....
///////Swami
Random thoughts:
I wonder why on average, crazed non-Muslim terrorists are more effective killers than crazed Muslim terrorists. If I was a Jihadi, I think I’d be a little humiliated by the fact that in the one thing I truly excelled at, non-Muslims were STILL better than me.
I have nothing against examining the role of ideological inspiration here, as long as it works for Muslim terror also. If we can talk about the influence of paranoid rantings on right wing blog sites leading to murder, can we talk about paranoid rantings in the Q’uran leading to murder?
Hours after a Muslim attack, the second thing you hear from the Media is concern that it might provoke “backlash”? Has any media talking head been worried about backlash against conservatives?
Things we will not see: Streets named in his honor, mobs celebrating his deed, clerics praising his heroism. More: The Intelligentsia noting his “Legitimate grievances”, or recommending policy changes to avoid provoking more attacks of this kind.
July 25, 2011 -
Posted by: gringoman | July 28, 2011 at 10:37 AM
MARK LEVIN is a constitutional attorney, Talk host with more listeners than any lefty drone can hope to attract, a best-selling author, and not fond of the paper he calls "The New York Slimes' and sometimes not crazy about the party he calls "the Repubics."
He has no patience with ignorant Marxobots. He sees right through the socialists and their fascist troll trash. What happens to any who try to factoid him? He evaporates them with his registered ray gun. He's not a lady like Monica.
MARK LEVIN:
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THE DRONES!
Posted by: gringoman | July 28, 2011 at 10:46 AM
Gringo,
You have looked behind the masks yet again...
I am sure the Repukes will cave, and "Tax Da Rich" will be coming soon to a paycheck near you. I suspect it was their plan all along...
Monica,
You are finally catching up.
Posted by: LongRifle | July 28, 2011 at 10:47 AM
Tax the wealthy and force corporations to pay their taxes and not given them the "offshore" option.
Posted by: RafeMasters_76 | July 28, 2011 at 10:50 AM
LEAVE DRONEBOT TO ITS HELLBOT
ROCK ROLL n' SCROLL
DON'T FEED A TROLL
Posted by: gringoman | July 28, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Me Troll. Me Hungry. Me don't care how ridiculous Nutjob sounds. Feed Me.
Posted by: RafeMasters_76 | July 28, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Gringo,
You have looked behind the masks yet again...
I am sure the Repukes will cave, and "Tax Da Rich" will be coming soon to a paycheck near you. I suspect it was their plan all along...
Monica,
You are finally catching up.
Posted by: LongRifle | July 28, 2011 at 10:47 AM
Longrifle,
Now if Monica declines to toss down the champagne with the Log Cabin Republicans in wake of their historic victory over US military, and the June 23 Coup de Marriage in Albany, New York---that would be progress, at least from Warrior Princess.
Posted by: gringoman | July 28, 2011 at 11:08 AM
imo Monica, this is exactly what happens when the voter is offered NO CHOICE........
time to give career politicians their walking papers 2012.......
THROW THE BUMS OUT 2012
Posted by: thebuckstopshere | July 28, 2011 at 11:28 AM
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Yet another jihadist in "US soldier" planned attack on Forth Hood:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-u-s-soldier-arrested-in-possible-plot-to-attack-ft-hood-again/
Meanwhile the traitorous MOONBAT Rep. Jackson Lee Calls for Terror Hearing on Rupert Murdoch & ‘Right Wing Extremists’
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/rep-jackson-lee-calls-for-terror-hearing-on-rupert-murdoch-right-wing-extremists/
You just cannot make this stuff up, kids. The libs are at the wheel and they are dead set on running the bus off the cliff.
WE must wrest the wheel from their deadly grasp and put the cart in REVERSE.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | July 28, 2011 at 11:49 AM
yeah, what happened to promised transparency anyway?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/07/truthful_accounting_should_be_the_first_objective_of_any_debt_ceiling_compromise.html
STOP THE SPENDING NOW
Posted by: thebuckstopshere | July 28, 2011 at 12:04 PM
Watch the tax-and-spend trolls show up any minute now.. tax da rich, yada yada.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | July 28, 2011 at 08:54 AM
The taxpart, yes!
What do you think got us ito this mess. Obama' tax
hike to 39% or Bushs tax cut to 35%?
(Hint)Who had the surplus and who had the huge debt.
Consrvatives must have flunked elementary school. The answer is so obvious
Posted by: Jay | July 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM
What do you think got us ito this mess. Obama' tax
hike to 39% or Bushs tax cut to 35%?
Should have been Clinton's Taxhike to 39%. But, Obama would do this country proud by going back to those 39%. As Wall Street Journal stated. If, he hadn't extended the Bushs Tax cuts. We would have cut 2 trillion off the debt now.
Posted by: Jay | July 28, 2011 at 12:13 PM
4. This is also the troll trash that Monica lets defile her website---these are all little socialists, skulking behind factoids, sometimes even a lunatic avataring a Jesus robe while spewing its toilet mouth, using aggressive fascist techniques while bloviating about "the fascists."
5. The very same socialist strategy was used to remove Glenn Beck from Fox, The Soros workers and other socialists use a fascist "swarm the advertisers" tactic to pressure Fox. (That's why this Alabama story is from Beck's The Blaze, not from Fox.)
MARK LEVIN
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THE DRONES!
Posted by: gringoman | July 28, 2011 at 09:58 AM
Another Troll this Drone that, yada yada yada
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jay | July 28, 2011 at 12:17 PM
"Bryant pointed to less stringent environmental regulations in countries such as China"
Gringoman
After eight days trapped underground, 115 coal miners in Shanxi province were dramatically rescued. In China, where mine disasters are grimly commonplace,
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1978668,00.html#ixzz1TPxK3E1U
Posted by: Jay | July 28, 2011 at 12:23 PM
imo Monica, this is exactly what happens when the voter is offered NO CHOICE........
time to give career politicians their walking papers 2012.......
THROW THE BUMS OUT 2012
Posted by: thebuckstopshere | July 28, 2011 at 11:28
Perfectly said.
Nothing will change (for the better)...It's a game. 4-8 years of tax hikes (real); then 4-8 years of tax cuts (not real). The Biggest Corps get "loopholes; (since they write the tax code), and the ever-shrinking middle class eats SH*T.
Posted by: LongRifle | July 28, 2011 at 12:56 PM
"5. The very same socialist strategy was used to remove Glenn Beck from Fox, The Soros workers and other socialists " Gringoman
Soros fought socialism and made his money through capitalism.
Posted by: Jay | July 28, 2011 at 06:25 PM
Jay. These people here live in their own fantasy world.
Facts have no effect on them whatsoever. They merely lie about them.
For every fact, they have a lie they believe and propagate.
But thanks for posting the truth FOR THE REST OF US, and for Monica's INFLUENTIAL E-MAIL READERS who completely ignore everything the liars here write.
Posted by: xbjllb | July 28, 2011 at 06:42 PM
Pres.Barack Obama has bend over backwards to work with the republicans. But, the republicans refused to work with Obama. Many democrats/liberals are very upset with Obama and the democratic leadership(Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi,etc)for selling out to the republicans. Its time for Obama and John Boehmer to do the right thing by the american people. End all the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia,etc. America will save billions of dollars. Its time to bring the troops home!
Tax the rich, tax the rich, tax the rich, tax the rich and make the corporations pay their fair share.
Distribute the wealth to poor and working poor here in america.
Posted by: Liberal2011 | July 28, 2011 at 06:46 PM
Welcome to the blog, Liberal 2011!! Please hang around and fight these incessant liars around here.
Posted by: xbjllb | July 28, 2011 at 06:47 PM
I have called House Speaker John Boehner office and express my outrage about the way he and the republicans have handled the debt ceiling situtation. The republicans have completely disrespected Pres. Barack Obama. They will do anything to make Barack a one term president. If any of my fellow liberal or independents want to talk with John Boehner, his number is (202)225-0600.
As for your right wing nuts that have like to debate. I dare you to call in Al Sharpton on his radio show or tv show MSNBC or
Alan Colmes radio talk radio show
or www.987kissfm.com/openline/
Posted by: Liberal2011 | July 28, 2011 at 06:54 PM
Thank you TBJ, for your warm welcome. I am glad to see someone that thinks like me on Monica's website.
Posted by: Liberal2011 | July 28, 2011 at 06:57 PM
Notes on the Debt/Saving Clocks: $4.5 trillion of the debt is owed to trust funds like the Social Security trust fund. Employees and Employers have have contributed $2.5 trillion and loaned it to the federal government's general fund, because our income taxes cannot cover the cost of general government services -- mostly the military.
Right now Social Security has $2.5 trillion in the "bank" — the most it's ever had. It has been adjusted to keep in balance many times. The last time in 1983, it was almost completely out of money. There's no reason it cannot be adjusted again, but it would be better not to let it run so low this time.
Most of the debt held by the public is owed to Americans, getting near half is owed to other countries. By far the largest part of the debt is due to Reagan and the Bushes (based on the treasury and pro-Reagan data)..
Posted by: Jay | July 28, 2011 at 07:05 PM
"The last time in 1983, it was almost completely out of money"
1983? Who was president?
(hint) He wasn't a Democrat!
Posted by: Jay | July 28, 2011 at 07:18 PM
Repugs can counter with their stubborness and ignorance but not with any credible, factual data.
Posted by: RafeMasters_76 | July 28, 2011 at 08:11 PM
CUT, CAP and BALANCE!!
Our president and others are quoting Jefferson lately, here are just a couple more quotes from Jefferson
"1798~ I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our constitution. I would be willing to depend on that alone for the reduction of the administration of our government to the general principles of it’s constitution; I mean an additional article, taking from the government the power of borrowing."
"1816~ I place economy among the first and important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers…We must make our choice between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretence of caring for them, they will be happy."
Posted by: John | July 28, 2011 at 09:13 PM
"1816~ I place economy among the first and important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers…We must make our choice between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretence of caring for them, they will be happy."
Posted by: John | July 28, 2011 at 09:13 PM
MARXOBOOBY "Jefferson? Hee-hee. Wasn't he a slave owner? That's what my teach say. Ain't he a dead white man? Wasn't he a booooozz---waaaa! Hee-Hee. How he ever get on a nickel?"
Posted by: gringoman | July 28, 2011 at 09:47 PM
Thank God no one ever reads you but a handful of fools.
Posted by: xbjllb | July 29, 2011 at 02:15 AM
Thank you TBJ, for your warm welcome. I am glad to see someone that thinks like me on Monica's website.
Posted by: Liberal2011 | July 28, 2011 at 06:57 PM
You have no idea...ROFLMAO
Posted by: LongRifle | July 29, 2011 at 02:48 AM
Thank God even less people read you than the handful that read Gringoman.
Posted by: xbjllb | July 29, 2011 at 06:25 AM
MARXOBOOBY "Jefferson? Hee-hee. Wasn't he a slave owner? That's what my teach say. Ain't he a dead white man? Wasn't he a booooozz---waaaa! Hee-Hee. How he ever get on a nickel?"
Posted by: gringoman | July 28, 2011 at 09:47 PM
Another comedy post.
Should be treated as such.
Posted by: Jay | July 29, 2011 at 06:58 PM