Here's The "Compromise"

There is great gnashing of teeth and renting of clothing in Washington and in the media over the lack (so far) of a deal to reduce our monstrous spending and suffocating debt. The so-called elites are running around yammering about "compromise" and the need for more of it. The assumption is that compromise for the sake of compromise is an inherently good thing. The truth is that compromise usually leads to a bad deal with unintended and disastrous consequences.

When the Democrats controlled the White House and both houses of Congress for two years, they not only refused to compromise with Republicans, they mocked the very idea of it by barring the GOP from meetings, debate, and offering amendments. They railroaded Republicans every which way 'til Tuesday. Like the YouTube-famous honey badger, they didn't care. That was their idea of "compromise."

As a result, we've had two years of their unalloyed policies. And we see the result: anemic economic growth, staggering spending and debt, sky-high and stubborn unemployment, unprecedented new entitlements and regulations, businesses unable to grow, and trillions sitting on the sidelines until the higher costs and uncertainty of doing business subside. That means a change at the top in 2012.

We've tried it their way. They and their policies have been abject failures.

Now it's THEIR time to compromise.

Obama and the Dems have spun this masterfully as a compromise between tax hikes and spending cuts. I'll give you spending cuts if you give me tax increases. That is exactly the WRONG formulation. The Republicans should have stopped that nonsense spin long ago.

Here's the REAL compromise: in exchange for the raising of the debt ceiling the Democrats want, the Republicans demand Cut, Cap and Balance. Period.

This is not an exchange about spending cuts versus tax increases. This is about a debt level hike in exchange for policies that will prevent the United States from getting into this crisis again in a year or two. The Democrats don't want to agree to that compromise for many reasons, but primarily because they want to continue to be able to put the gun to our heads. Every 2 years, we'll have another debt crisis, and every 2 years, the GOP will have to cave in on tax hikes, etc etc.

Cut, Cap, and Balance puts an end to that cycle of Democrat extortion. That's why they're doing everything possible to torpedo it. That's why Harry Reid said this week that it's "the worst piece of legislation" in history. He seriously said that. Now you know why.

The Republicans MUST NOT GO WOBBLY. This is the moment.

No compromise, unless it's the one laid out above. No wimpiness. No mercy. No surrender.

Comments

[thebuckstopshere]

so can we assume the gop's head cheerleader will NOT endorse a RINO 2012, or will she CAVE to anybodies better than the won?

NO RINOS 2012

[Jurgen]

If the president cared more for the country than he does his own agenda and welfare, he would reduce the deficit with budget cuts by letting go of unproductive government agencies. But this is is voting base, and there is no way he is going to do that because it's not about what's best for the country but what is best for himself. True leadership is self sacrifice for the good of the organization/country that is what Washington modeled but sadly this has been lost in a sea of Narcissistic self promoting agenda with no regard for duty or responsibility! Please can we have a president & leader who is a true patriot - one who puts America above their own agenda!

[gringoman]

////Cut, Cap, and Balance puts an end to that cycle of Democrat extortion.... The Republicans MUST NOT GO WOBBLY. This is the moment.

No compromise, unless it's the one laid out above. No wimpiness. No mercy. No surrender.////

Righto. Well said. Gauntlet time, no?

But what if the possible, even the likely, yea, even the probable happens? What if your G.O.P. dances the Gooper Wobble, in the august disco corridors of power?

What then, Princess? Will you Cut their Crap and hang them out to Balance?

[Jay]

Standard nd poor had a talk yesterday to the new GOp about what will happen if the country defaults. Wall Street as spoken, many others as well. The only people who don't want to listen is the tea party.

The 2 presidents who have raised the debt the most are also the ones who cut taxes.
TreasuryDirect.gov

Reagan knew the importance of honoring your obligations. A fact that the new conservatives want to ignore.

"WASHINGTON -- Democrats have a new icon these days: Ronald Reagan.

That's because, unlike many Republicans in the House, the fiscally conservative late president believed it was essential for the United States to make good on its all obligations and raise the debt ceiling.

And Democrats across the spectrum on Wednesday have been holding the conservative hero up to Republicans as an example they should follow.

"I find myself these days quoting Ronald Reagan," said Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) at a news conference Wednesday. "'The full consequences of a default,' he said, 'or even the serious prospect of a default by the United States are impossible to predict and awesome to contemplate. Denigration of the full faith and credit of the United States would have substantial effects on the domestic financial markets and the value of the dollar in exchange markets. The nation can ill afford to allow such a result.'

"That's Ronald Reagan," Boxer emphasized, suggesting that Republicans recall that model. "All they have to do is look at their icon, Ronald Reagan, and understand you don't play with fire when it comes to the full faith and credit of the United States of America."

I feel strongly that the Tea party will become the,"Party that had their one chance. And, now they're history.

[xbjllb]

"We've tried it their way." - Monica Crowley

Monica. Please quit LYING. I know it's your job, but think harder.

And yes, PLEASE crash the debt ceiling. It will be the funeral of the right wing forever. And well overdue.

Then the rest of us can get on with the work of making America what it should and could be, WITH THE RIGHT WING GONE.

Then you can go legit.

[Jay]

"Every 2 years, we'll have another debt crisis, and every 2 years, the GOP will have to cave in on tax hikes, etc etc" --Monica

Reagan had to have the debt raised every 5 months.
Something that the GOP agreed to wholeheartily.

[gringoman]

Debt Ceiling Poker.

Macdaddy has already dared the Goopers to call his bluff.

He and Team Soros is betting on the jelly in G.O.P. belly.

If threat of default roils world markets, and Macdaddy can pin it on G.O.P., he can then demogogue them to death. "See what these servants of the rich did to your checks, your Social Security" blah-blah.

Jelly-belly Goopers, terrified at being demogogued to death with Class War blah-blah surrender to socialist demands for taxes and/or long term debt agreement.

Jelly-Belly Goopers had good enough hand to give Macdaddy ONLY short-term debt ceiling rise, preventing world market panic, and giving Macdaddy NO TAXES, thereby pulling his demogogue rug from under him.

Goopers, by standing firm, could have called Macdaddy bluff and let Macdaddy take the heat for panicing world markets with threat of default.

Goopers would not. Too much jelly in the belly.

Princess, you can have them.

[xbjllb]

"Something that the GOP agreed to wholeheartily." - Jay

Oh, but Jay, THAT was DIFFERENT.

Reagan wasn't a "MUSLIM" "SOCIALIST" HALF-NEGRO.

Reagan, we could trust.

Excuse me for a bit, I just threw up in my mouth.

[Jay]

Oh, but Jay, THAT was DIFFERENT.

Reagan wasn't a "MUSLIM" "SOCIALIST" HALF-NEGRO.

Reagan, we could trust.

Excuse me for a bit, I just threw up in my mouth.

Posted by: xbjllb | July 22, 2011 at 12:37 PM

And, Reagan and Bush were Republican.
Obama is a democrat.

ENOUGH SAID!

[xbjllb]

The right wing's idea of "compromise":

Oh, all right. We'll use a drop of lube when we ram it so far up your colon you won't be able to think straight.

Obama's idea of compromise? We'll be able to walk afterward. Like an old cowboy who's been on a horse for seven months straight, but walk, yeah. Only a couple of feet at a time, and only with blood transfusions, but walk, yeah.

The left's idea of compromise? How about we tax the top 10% at 1955 levels rather than rounding you all up and guillotining you on live TV on the White House lawn?

Taxing at 1955 levels instead of a 100% confiscation of all your wealth at 1799 levels.

Now THAT'S WHAT I CALL REAL COMPROMISE.

[xbjllb]

No WONDER Ben Franklin was such a fan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution

[xbjllb]

By the way, CUT (the poor to ribbons), CRAP (on what's left of the Middle Class) and BUTTFUCK (the dems and the American People 24/7) was a stunt.

CUT, CRAP, AND BUTTFUCK will NEVER even get to Obama's desk, and everyone knows it.

It only plays to the braindead 10% of the GOP reactionary fascist base.

[gringoman]

The thing about the socialist troll trash: As typical pogwessive ignoramuses, they don't understand terms like 'Marxobot." 'Drones' they might vaguely understand.

Marxobot, as the Gringo World Dictionary makes clear for the untutored, is a degenerate Marxist.

Karl Marx was a serious scholar. He didn't believe in outright lying and deception. He naively believed that communism and socialism didn't depend on lying and deception. Heh. That was back in 1850. Then 100 years of history showed otherwise.

Fast forward to troll trash. Notice how these drones keep droning away with the Talking Points about Reagan and Bush who supposedly were for taxes and raising the debt ceiling. It's hilarious. The drones are just giving away their functions as cotton pickers on the neo-plantation of the Democrats. These are EXACTLY the Dem talking points today.

Only problem is that the deception has been diced and sliced already, showing how Reagan raised the debt ceiling only under great pressure from the Dems and promises from them, which they never kept. But this is context,

The degenerate Marxobots, exactly like the Stalinists and Nazis, are confident that "the stupid masses" don't need "context". As Hitler's Goebbels would agree, if these Marxobots keep repeating Big Lie about Reagan being "A TAX DUDE," the "masses" who they regiment will believe it.

(Thank you Monica, for furnishing us with a screaming screwball in a Jesus robe, and his Marxobot drone. Have you thanked them for wanting to prosecute Dick Cheney and George Bush for war crimes, including taking down the Twin Towers? Have they offered to get you a ticket to the Hague Trial? )

[gringoman]

BULLETIN:

Terror strike in Oslo, Norway.

Some dead.

Gunman in police uniform.

TROLL TRASH: "So what? Would you care if the terrorist was a Christian?"

[xbjllb]

(Thank you Monica, for furnishing us with a screaming screwball in a Jesus robe, and his Marxobot drone. Have you thanked them for wanting to prosecute Dick Cheney and George Bush for war crimes, including taking down the Twin Towers? Have they offered to get you a ticket to the Hague Trial? )" - Gringoman

All that, and far more. A ticket to Heaven. For eternity.

Which you'll only see for about five minutes.

Maybe less. But long enough to know we were right and for your head to explode.

[xbjllb]

"What should we do with his shorts and sunglasses, Lord?"

"BURN THEM"

[gringoman]

TERROR EXPLOSION IN OSLO

VIDEO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkFYUP3aKbU&feature=youtu.be

TROLL TRASH: "So what? Would you care if that rubble and enormous explosion was in a muslim country?"

[thebuckstopshere]

Jurgen, well stated & many of US here, our sentiments....& if I might add, many of that voting base make far more in salary & bennies than the private sector.....which picks up the tab to boot........

THROW ALL THE BUMS OUT 2012

[xbjllb]

"BULLETIN:

Terror strike in Oslo, Norway." - Gringoman

Wow. That Obama sure is good at protecting America, we don't have any problems with successful attacks like other countries do.

I guess there's some good in having a "Muslim" President after all. Who knew?

I think, just for safety's sake, that ALL our Presidents from now on should be "Muslim".

(They hate me because I can give it far better than they can. It's a natural advantage WHEN YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.)

[xbjllb]

"TERROR EXPLOSION IN OSLO" - Gringoman

TROLL TRASH: Wow. That Obama sure is good at protecting America, we don't EVER have any problems with successful attacks like other countries do.

I guess there's some good in having a "Muslim" President after all. Who knew?

I think, just for safety's sake, that ALL our Presidents from now on should be "Muslim".

(They hate me because I can give it far better than they can. It's a natural advantage WHEN YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.)

[xbjllb]

Prayers to EVERYONE involved in the Norway attack.

EVERYONE.

[thebuckstopshere]

well I guess it takes all kinds of bu!!sh*t to make political hay eh?

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/07/22/democrats-wearing-we-stand-with-the-lady-buttons-showing-solidarity-with-wasserman-schultz-from-big-meanie-allen-wests-comments/

NO DOUCHEBAGGERY 2012

[xbjllb]

Prayers to God and condolences to EVERYONE involved in the Norway attack.

EVERYONE.

[xbjllb]

Allen West is not only an asshole bully, he happens to be an obnoxious Oreo House slave whore for fascist Big Business, and the biggest biz of all is Big Offense.

And they couldn't have picked a more offensive slave, who by the way, whose days are numbered in the GOP by the top brass itself.

[xbjllb]

Oh, I almost forgot. Is Grover Norquist gay or does he just look and sound it?

Enquiring minds want to know.

I know. I'll call Rupert. Rupert's for sure hacked his phone and knows everything.

[thebuckstopshere]

the dick is back in the news......talks about the "hard part"............

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/07/22/weiner-in-treatment-for-pervs-who-send-dic-pics-to-complete-strangers-%e2%80%94-says-hard-part-will-be-convincing-hillary-he%e2%80%99s-cured/

what a joke all these strokes are.........

NO PERVS 2012

[gringoman]

Oslo blast eyewitnesses: 'TOTAL CHAOS'

BBC//http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14252657

TROLL TRASH: "So what? Maybe the Christians tried to lower the welfare payments for the muslims instead of raising the debt ceiling. Did you ever think of that? Do you conservatives care about social justice?"

[xbjllb]

Allen West's days are numbered by the GOP Top Brass because it's not even close to the image they want to present to the public; a big bully Lieutenant Colonel getting personal with and beating up on a Jew woman.

Not good with the allies in Tel-Aviv, you know? Cuts into the GOP cash flow.

[thebuckstopshere]

man up or shut up............

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=86203

THROW THE BUMS OUT 2012

[xbjllb]

"TROLL TRASH: "So what? Maybe the Christians tried to lower the welfare payments for the muslims instead of raising the debt ceiling. Did you ever think of that? Do you conservatives care about social justice?"" - Gringoman

Don't ever even TRY to put words in my mouth. I am so far in front of you and you are so far behind the curve that to even TRY lags you even further behind.

Best to stick to your absurd anti-Red Menace paranoid schizophrenic talking points.

[thebuckstopshere]

reading the reported "facts" the little "lady" is the one who took it public for a political op, that frankly, I think is going to backfire..........AMERICANS are fed up with special interests (needs) groups...........

STOP THE INSANITY 2012

[gringoman]

BBC LIVE FROM OSLO

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14254705

(Last report: seven dead. Internet report that jihadis vow to kill anyone who shows images of Mohammed and suggests that Islam is a violent religion.

MARXOBOT TROLL TRASH: "So what? Would you care if these were dead muslims? We doubt it."

[xbjllb]

"Oslo blast eyewitnesses: 'TOTAL CHAOS' - Gringoman

ONCE AGAIN, OVERWHELMING PROOF THAT THIS WAR CANNOT EVER BE WON.

AMERICA'S AND THE WEST'S ONLY HOPE IS TO FOLLOW JESUS' GREATEST COMMANDMENT; "LOVE YOUR ENEMIES".

FIND A WAY TO MAKE PEACE. GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT MOST, AND THE WAR WILL END.

WHAT DO THEY WANT? WHAT ANYONE WANTS: AUTONOMY OVER THEIR LAND AND NATURAL RESOURCES. TO LIVE IN PEACE AND NOT UNDER FOREIGN MILITARY OCCUPATION.

WE CAN ONLY PROVIDE THIS BY IMMEDIATELY EVACUATING ISRAEL AND THE US OUT OF THE MIDEAST. WHICH. WILL. AVERT. ARMAGEDDON.

GIVE. IT. TO. THEM.

OR. WAR. WITH. THEM. UNTIL. GLOBAL. ANNIHILATION.

[xbjllb]

Militant Islam DID NOT EXIST PRIOR TO 1948.

UNDO 1948, and you UNDO MILITANT ISLAM. LEAVE THE MIDEAST, GIVE THEM THEIR LANDS, AND THEY HAVE NOTHING TO FIGHT US FOR.

[xbjllb]

All else is empty angry rhetoric; the mirror image of our own dear UG.

GET OUT OF THE MIDEAST, AND TAKE ISRAEL WITH US, and there will be no recruitment to jihad that will succeed.

Did India take over England when they left? Did Africa take over even one of the European countries that were its former imperialist handlers?

OF COURSE NOT.

GIVE. THEM. WHAT. YOU. WOULD. WANT. IF. YOU. WERE. IN. THEIR. SHOES.

[gringoman]

"WORST ATTACK ON NORWAY SINCE WW II"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14254705

MARXOBOT TROLL TRASH "So? What are you conservatives trying to do? Compare muslims to Nazis? Yeah, that's what you're up to, ain't it? We Democrats are on to you."

[xbjllb]

Jesus Christ wasn't just smart. Jesus Christ wasn't just a mere genius.

JESUS CHRIST WAS GOD.

LISTEN. TO. HIM.

LOVE. YOUR. ENEMIES.

GIVE. THEM. WHAT. THEY. WANT.

OR. ELSE.

IF SOMEONE DEMANDS YOUR CLOAK, GIVE THEM YOUR SHIRT ALSO.

LEAVE. THE. MIDEAST.

GET. OFF. OIL. FOR. FUEL. FOREVER.

[xbjllb]

"MARXOBOT TROLL TRASH "So? What are you conservatives trying to do? Compare muslims to Nazis? Yeah, that's what you're up to, ain't it? We Democrats are on to you." - Gringoman

Did anyone tell you how cute you are babbling and drooling and arguing with yourself and no one else?

You cannot make me in your image, G-man.

[xbjllb]

And.... cue...... TEL-AVIV:

[xbjllb]

Just think. If Israel left, I'm sure most of the Royal Family of Saud would evacuate to the US too. Ditto UAE.

America could use the taxes.

Not to mention all the vacant foreclosed houses filled with ambitious people who get jobs rather quickly and would be paying taxes and pumping billions into the economy via Lowe's and Home Depot.

Can't anyone else see what an incredible feat this would be, on how many levels?

[thebuckstopshere]

if anybody recalls this RINO TOOL, did NOT initially support the teaparty & reported the gathering on the mall at 75k, (even tho the park svc dept reported it as the largest & cleanest gathering EVER) & he didn't know if these people were kooks or whatever, so much for getting your azz out there & FACTUAL REPORTING....imo this blowhard is part of the problem today......as well, I think the teaparty numbers are growing & it scares the sh*t outta "both" parties.......got get some control there dontcha know...

JUST GIVE US THE FACTS & STOP THE OPINES RINO NEWS BOY

[gringoman]

LIVE FROM OSLO

1900:

The medical director in charge at Oslo University Hospital, Eric Carlson, says there could be as many as 100 walking wounded, in addition to those who have been seriously wounded.

MARXOBOT TROLL TRASH: "Why are you still on this story? What you mean, the muslims over-ran the Christian lands of Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Algeria, Morocco. Don't you know it's all about Israel? Why do you think the muslims are blowing up things today in Thailand, Kashmir, Phillipines, Russia etc etc? Idiot! They're doing this because of Israel! Don't you conservatives understand progressive logic?"

[thebuckstopshere]

rino tool oreilly......

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=86190

NO BOLVIATING RINOS 2012

[xbjllb]

Of course, our racist foursome here could never be thrilled to have their blessed Israel HERE, in their own backyards. That's why they are such ardent supporters of Israel... as long as it's WAY OVER THERE, in the MIDDLE OF HOSTILE COUNTRIES.

A SITTING DUCK. WITH 100+ NUKES.

[gringoman]

TERROR IN NORWAY

Unconfirmed reports say several people have been killed in a separate shooting at a Labour youth camp outside Oslo

BBC UPDATES///////http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14254705

MARXOBOT TROLL TRASH: "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"

[xbjllb]

"Why do you think the muslims are blowing up things today in Thailand, Kashmir, Phillipines, Russia etc etc?" - Gringoman

Can you possibly be THAT dense? IN EVERY case you mention, there are rebels trying to throw off an imperialistic foreign force. Or in some cases, their own fascist dictatorship government.

Thai and Russian and Filipino Moslems could give a flying crap about the US!

Our problem is MIDEAST MOSLEMS, and it's for a VERY GOOD REASON.

We'd be no different if China gave Kansas to Taiwan, and the Taiwanese moved there in mass, displaced all the Kansans to neighboring states.

We'd be blowing up Chinese and Taiwanese right and left, (much to your eternal delight, I am sure.)

The problem is not them. IT. IS. US.

AND. WE. WILL. NEVER. WIN.

NO. POWER. CAN. WIN. AGAINST. TERRORISM.

EVEN ATTEMPTED GENOCIDE WILL NOT WORK.

JESUS CHRIST HAS THE SOLUTION.

LISTEN. TO. HIM.

[xbjllb]

Or perish in the Armageddon you and yours will surely bring about.

And then, Hell. Forever.

[gringoman]

Terror blast in Oslo – “massive vehicle bomb; gunman fires on kids’ camp;;” Update: Norway had taken action against jihadi cleric who threatened to kill politicians

By Michelle Malkin • July 22, 2011 10:06

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/07/22/terror-blast-in-oslo/

MARXOBOT TROLL TRASH: "Michelle Malkin? Ha-ha! She's a right-winger! You didn't tell us that, did you?"

[xbjllb]

"MARXOBOT TROLL TRASH: "Michelle Malkin? Ha-ha! She's a right-winger! You didn't tell us that, did you?"" - Gringoman

Folks, looks like Gringoman's head has exploded already. He's gone from muttering to himself to full-fledged multi-personality disorder. This often happens when someone experiences severe mental trauma, like combat.

In this case, he can't stop arguing with himself. This is, at least, a light at the end of the tunnel, because much like Michelle Bachmann's self-induced guilt migraines, it shows that Gringoman feels the need, at the least at a subconscious level, to have a part of him be able to tell the truth, as opposed to the conscious part of him that lives in absolutely denial in a morass of lies.

We might well see a change come, if Gringoman is somehow able to integrate his duality of personalities into one coherent whole.

We can hope.

[gringoman]

THE RAPE OF NORWAY

Defenders of Islam call it a "religion of peace" but many Norwegian women are learning that Islam is the religion of rape. According to an amazing police report released there this month, every single solved case of assault-rape in the country in 2010 was carried out by a Muslim immigrant.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/145161#.TinC7GGgJ-g

MARXOBOT TROLL TRASH: "Don't you conservative idiots understand that rape is a way for them to express their anti-Zionism? It's all Israel's fault. Got it? Now you'll be saying that Islam is a Religion of Rape. That's what you're thinking? Admit it! Admit it! Yaaaaaaghghghg;ibg;ub wheeeeeresa! Glub-glub!