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June 01, 2011

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Ummahgummah

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Hannity is still shocked that he landed this awesome job he has landed and he is determined to hang on to it at all cost.

Which is why he is so bright-eyed and bushy-tailed.

Perfect for the Goopers to use as their tool to implement and sell their plans to the masses.

We are 100% in agreement on Hannity.

He's mentioned his jobs before he landed his radio gig and he does NOT want to go back to hanging paper or flipping burgers, no matter how often he proclaims the virtue of these jobs.

he is clearly seduced by the money too, his love for Escalade and other Forst-Class transportation has come through.

Rush, on the other hand, has long achieved whatever wealth he needs for the rest of his life and thus has outgrown his initial dependence on the hands that fed and continue to feed him.

I think he would be on the side of a Third Party guy or gal if all we get is yet another Drooper Gooper.

Liek the Donald said today: the election in 2012 will be the most important in the History of the Nation. it will set the way for the future.

A RINO will just not do under these circumstances.

It's like the ROE they put on our troops.

I want to face the RATS without my hands tied behind my back in 2012!

I WANT TO GO AFTER THE BAMA AND HIS FASCIST MEDIA SUPPLICANTS NO HOLDS BARRED!!!

Who can deliver outside of Sarah Palin, Maybe Michelle Bachmann or Donald Trump?

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gringoman

I think she is running. Trump will help her with things. He just stated rather clearly how he feels about the current "field" of Goopers.

I call it the Field of Queens. And I don't mean Citi Field aka Shiti Field.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 01, 2011 at 04:34 PM

Exactly. I'm ready to take Trump at his word---assuming there's nothing to the dark conspiracy buffs who see Trump as a crafty double agent who leans lib. (The only hard "evidence" I can see for such a conspiracy, so far, is that a trolling pwogwessive mental patient is hot for Trump.)

But taking Trump at his word, it's obvious he'll watch to see if Palin can take the G.O.P. by storm. If she can, he'll bow to reality. If she can't, he will seriously consider fulfilling (finally) what the Crystal Gringo Ball saw on April 06. Right now, as of May 25, the CGB sees Palin running.

Re a Third Party run.

Trump knows that only Palin and/or himself at this moment in time can breathe life into the living dead Republicans and take it up in the slick Macdaddy's grill. There might be others by 2016, but this is about 2012.

Re a Third Party run....I can see Trump considering it IF---and only if---Club Gooper rejects BOTH Palin and him. A Third Party MIGHT conceivably carry the day with Palin AND Trump double-teaming it.

It could be the greatest Third Party threat ever to the Demopublican Ruling Class. That alone makes it significant. It can also serve as a warning to G.O.P. Central. Go with Palin and/or Trump....or else......

Catch my Continental drift?

Ummahgummah

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I more than get your drift, Gringoman. I said so pretty much myself!

He also called the Repubs lousy chess players, saying that instead of Ryan coming out with his plan they should have waited for the Bama to make his move when he was on the ropes and then keep hammering away at his plan and beat him hands down in 2012.

He said that the GOP single-handedly revived the Bama and now it will take a formidable candidate to beat him.

The GOP will have to be dragged to victory kicking and screaming OR they will have to be left behind and abandoned.

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xbjllb

"OPC is still simmering and it's not on the back burner either." - UG

Go blow yourself.

gringoman

Re a Third Party. And I do underline the double-teaming. There is just too much against e Third Party, including basic arithmetic. A Third Party with only the Trump factor, or even only the Palin factor, might possibly out-poll Ross Perot's stunning 17% (or was it 19%?) in 1992. But not by enough. Even an astounding tie with the G.O.P. would still throw the spoils to Team Soros. Do the math.

Trump very likely has this figured out already.

But Palin and Trump double teaming would be a Third Party threat unprecedented historically, into uncharted areas, all bets off.

But who would accept the Vice-Prez slot? Trump? Palin?

No use saying it doesn't matter to you. It would matter to them.

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E.g. A case can be made easily that the institution of slavery was clearly doomed even on economic grounds. It was unsustainable and unnecessary with the growth of the industrial age. Ergo, it was dangerous and even evil to catapult millions of illiterate slaves into "freedom." They were helpless and the whites who now found themselves suddenly swarmed were deeply resentful, hence the rise of rabid racism, the KKK etc. In Rome the slaves were eventually freed, but never in a sudden tsunami like the North inflicted on the South, and Americans paid for this insanity with about 600,000 dead, mostly white.....
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Thanks Gringoman. That is a good point about how slavery would be a dying institution. Other countries did end it without 600,000 dead.

Integrating the tsunami of freed slaves into society did bother me too because I do think that it did create problems for society and I'm not certain those problems should be dismissed as "racism" versus a reaction to adapting to "the tsunami".

Thanks for the suggestion on the book. I'm going to scroll up and make note of it before the X-Lax gets going, making it impossible to find it again.

Ummahgummah

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Gringoman, the situation is so bad that we can no longer care about what happens to the Republican party.

In fact I would prefer a Trump/Palin independent run and deal the death knell to the execrable open-borders and mint juleps crowd.

I think Trump would head such a ticket and maybe they might even announce that the second term would see Palin run at the top with Trump going back to what he really loves to do, namely run his business enterprises.

Trump's got the cash and the contacts to fund such an enterprise.

If they run as independents they will need new sources of funds.

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gringoman

I more than get your drift, Gringoman. I said so pretty much myself!

He also called the Repubs lousy chess players, saying that instead of Ryan coming out with his plan they should have waited for the Bama to make his move when he was on the ropes and then keep hammering away at his plan and beat him hands down in 2012.

He said that the GOP single-handedly revived the Bama and now it will take a formidable candidate to beat him.

The GOP will have to be dragged to victory kicking and screaming OR they will have to be left behind and abandoned.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 01, 2011 at 08:11 PM

Trump talk like that, Ummah, convinces me that he and Palin, like most everybody else, knows how hopeless are the Goopers (sometimes I think even Monica will admit it to special confidantes). But Trump and Palin are practically the only ones who can do anything about it---Trump from his worldly experience, Palin from her instincts, and both of them from their drive and passion. The Goopers, like the Dem eliteniks, basically go from their Law School and Ivy League bubbles into the Beltway Bubble. Very unlike a Trump and a Palin. Trump and Palin have done a whole lot of living in the real world. The few in Washington with anywhere near equivalent experience are those who have truly been at war, which can compress years in a short time.

DJ

Rush, on the other hand, has long achieved whatever wealth he needs for the rest of his life and thus has outgrown his initial dependence on the hands that fed and continue to feed him.
I think he would be on the side of a Third Party guy or gal if all we get is yet another Drooper Gooper

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Ummah,

The reason I think Rush (a Republican loyalist and businessman) would never support a third party is for the simple reason his corporate sponsors (those who purchase advertisement time during his show) are too invested in the status quo, i.e., the two party system. Rush, the businessman, first and foremost has to serve his advertisers' interests. He has a fiduciary responsibility of sorts to them.

And yes, Rush has all the money he needs, however he DOES want to maintain his prestige and social standing amongst the ruling elite. Let's make no mistake about it, he rubs elbows with all the movers and shakers and loves doing so. Hence he’d never risk all that by becoming a turncoat to the G.O.P. It’s neither in his or his own personal interest or his corporate sponsors’ interests to do so. Furthermore, Rush got to where he is in his career by championing the G.O.P. He's not about to change, IMO.

Make sense?

DJ

Either Trump or Palin alone could win as a third party candidate. No need to team them up.

Ummahgummah

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DJ, I think the most likely thing they discussed was about Trump helping SP finance and run a Third-Party campaign if she fails to get the GOP nomination.

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Ummahgummah

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But I could also see the scenario where he runs for one term only, with the understanding that Palin will then take over the baton in 2016.

If they are successful in turning the country around she would win in a landslide at that time.

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DJ

I thought I heard Trump say if no viable Gooper candidate emerges to challenge Obummer, then he'd run as an Independent. He went on to say it's to early to determine whether or not a viable candidate will emerge. Meaning he's waiting to see if Sarah Palin decides to run or not. We shall see.

In any event, I think Trump is the ONLY one who can beat Obama this time around.

Moreover, I agree, UG, the best case scenario is for Trump to win this time around and hand it over to Sarah in 2016.

gringoman

JPMulhern

06/01/11 12:40

Trump is repulsive, but he's also probably the only person who could pull a Perot in 2012. Obama's Bay State clone, Deval Patrick, won reelection in a three-way race and that may be the only path to a second term for our spectacularly unsuccessful President.

For the price of a pizza dinner, Palin got Trump to cast himself as her ally, making it difficult for him to justify a third-party candidacy. It was a good defensive move. Well played, Governor.

gringoNOTE: Neat point. It's what I was getting at in previous comment, but this probably makes it clearer. Palin is getting so good, she can seem like a naive rube to the "city slickers" while in fact being many moves ahead of them on the chess board.

gringoman

But I'm still waiting to see if she hires a good voice coach. That would be the sina qua non signal--- that she's running for Mother America.

gringoman

Weiner's Penis Photo Dispute To Be Settled In Small Claims Court
by Ann Coulter
06/01/2011

Ummahgummah

Weiner's Penis Photo Dispute To Be Settled In Small Claims Court
by Ann Coulter
06/01/2011

POSTED BY: GRINGOMAN | JUNE 01, 2011 AT 11:01 PM

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Thanks for the grapefruit, Gringoman!

Judging by the pic I saw I'd say that Small Claims Court would be a fitting venue indeed.

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xbjllb

"Judging by the pic I saw I'd say that Small Claims Court would be a fitting venue indeed." - UG


OK. Now we KNOW it's a photo of YOUR crotch and not Weiner's.

gringoman

More Palin Derangement Syndrome. Enjoy!


I am still asking myself why the 'lame stream media' gives this woman any air time.... John King said it best, because if they don't they will get slammed for it... if they do, they get slammed for following her around. I think CNN needs to stop giving this star seeking nutjob air time. I want Obama to win against a legitimate candidate.
June 2, 2011 09:50 am at 9:50 am |
John

I would believe any thing Saran Palin say ,because she all Lie. She there for the Media ,because they are going to be a lot there. Even If she won't talk to them she till In the news. If Saran Palin run for President and who ever vote for her need there brain check, because you are a IDIOT. And you Saran Palin Pac people I hope you like The House you pay for her. What are you IDIOT going yo pay for next a summer home.
June 2, 2011 09:52 am at 9:52 am |

gringoman

OTOH......

Four and The Door

America is ready for a woman President. Sarah Palin is in the best position of any woman in politics today to be the first. She has a huge, dedicated and growing base of support. She has a great story, working her way up from city, to state to national politics based on a fundamental belief in the role of government in America. And she is coming into a race against an ineffective President who's 2 major programs ( Stimulus and ObamaCare ) only working against his re-election. It's her time and she knows it. So do the liberals. They thought the first woman President would be a Democrat.
June 2, 2011 10:07 am at 10:07 am |

gringoNOTE: And they still don't see how it could be a Mama Grizzly from Alaska instead of a Mrs. Bubba from Yale.

LongRifle

Third Party? Dumb...might as well get out the hope and change bumper stickers... I'll bet on that.

xbjllb

The greatest thing about a potential Sarah Palin Presidency?

When she quits in year two to make more money on a Trump-produced reality TV show as a maid in Trump Towers taking orders from her latina floor bosses.

She wins when she can finally get one room right (about two seasons in) and America wins the day she quits.

DJ

Alas, Sarah ain't runnin' and the best the Goopers have to offer is a vanilla version of Obama.

A vanilla Obama ain't gonna cut it with the Tea Party protesters. Hence Obama is shoe-in in 2012.

Better get used to the idea of 5 1/2 more years of Obummer.........unless of course Trump jumps in the fray as an Independent.

Ummahgummah

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DJ, I am afraid you are right. I really don't understand Longrifle's concerns. If they INSIST on running a RINO what choice do we really have?

We don't need an Obama lite in the WH.

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gringoman

Alas, Sarah ain't runnin' and the best the Goopers have to offer is a vanilla version of Obama.

A vanilla Obama ain't gonna cut it with the Tea Party protesters. Hence Obama is shoe-in in 2012.

Better get used to the idea of 5 1/2 more years of Obummer.........unless of course Trump jumps in the fray as an Independent.

Posted by: DJ | June 02, 2011 at 12:06 PM
Ummahgummah

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DJ, I am afraid you are right. I really don't understand Longrifle's concerns. If they INSIST on running a RINO what choice do we really have?

We don't need an Obama lite in the WH.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 02, 2011 at 12:15 PM

Not to worry. Opine away. Meanwhile, it's only a question of which was more prescient: what the Crystal GringoBall revealed on April 06 (Trump will run) or May 25 (Palin will run).....unless it's a twofer---i.e. both will run.

FYI There is no possibility of a serious Third Party challenge to LibWorld and its bitch, GooperWorld. The only conceivable caveat would be a Third Party that is fully energized and double-teamed (in one way or the other) by BOTH Trump and Palin. The Demopublican Beast and its hackstream toadies can't be beaten by just one of them without the other fully on board.

Ummahgummah

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While we discuss the future of the USA, the enemy is going for World Power:

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/06/obama-and-the-c.html

Yeap, he wants a Global Tax Authority and he is instrumentalizing the OECD to get it.

I don't see any of the goopers raising their voices in protest!

This guy is going for the whole bowl of wax. He wants to be head of the UN with the authority to tax and redistribute on a global scale.

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borderbriar

Quite right UG. I meant Marcus Garvey. Sorry about the memory lapse. Re Hannity, I don't listen much anymore since he mostly repeats Rush, but I recall how often his response to whatever statement to be "just outrageous." I was referring to the spirit of what Mohammed preached, not what some choose to read into it. It makes no more sense to lump millions of Muslims as jihadists than to consider all Christians murderers because we have our Timothy McVeighs and Eric Rudolphs. Some of the Koran deals with actions ordered by Mohammed as a secular ruler. That no more justifies calling Islam a violent religion than calling Christianity one because Jesus told his followers to buy swords in preparation for revolution in his time. Those who want to find justification for violence will find it wherever they look. The sensible position is to attack those people not whatever source they use to claim justification.

FYI while I had some concern about McCain's age, it was clear he had a skill set that qualified him which was not evident in Obama, then or now.

DJ

"It makes no more sense to lump millions of Muslims as jihadists than to consider all Christians murderers because we have our Timothy McVeighs and Eric Rudolphs." ( --BB)


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That is a misconception and or canard oft repeated by libs and conservatives alike. The fact is Tim McVeigh was NOT a Christian, he was a self proclaimed ATHEIST.

LongRifle

The only conceivable caveat would be a Third Party that is fully energized and double-teamed (in one way or the other) by BOTH Trump and Palin. The Demopublican Beast and its hackstream toadies can't be beaten by just one of them without the other fully on board.

Posted by: gringoman | June 02, 2011 at 12:40 PM

Quite right. And it would probably take a lot longer than 18 months to "Energize" as well. They would only get one shot at it.

LongRifle

GOP WANTS a RINO...

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/06/gop-insiders-sa.php

My opinion: Too late for a third party this time around; no matter how badly it's needed.

jay

Have heard so much about Hannity on the memo lately.
Found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu5t4x9GpEg

So, he's another who yelled Obama's trip to India cost 200 million a day and involved 34 warships.

Found that Fox news is less of a news source. And, more of a Conservative political group.

Ummahgummah

"It makes no more sense to lump millions of Muslims as jihadists than to consider all Christians murderers because we have our Timothy McVeighs and Eric Rudolphs." ( --BB)


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That is a misconception and or canard oft repeated by libs and conservatives alike. The fact is Tim McVeigh was NOT a Christian, he was a self proclaimed ATHEIST.

POSTED BY: DJ | JUNE 02, 2011 AT 01:47 PM

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DJ, glad to see someone besides myself on the ball! This is what is called TU QUO QUE. McVeigh is going to be the jihad-excusing straw man until islam rules the entire planet.

If people are dumb enough to fall for it then they are even dumber than the moHAMedan masses in a self-whipping frenzy, like they have in iran once a year.

How many times must it be explained that in PIGSlam the KKKoran is considered the UNALTERABLE DIRECT word from alla - I just can't bring myself to call this primitive bloodthirsty satan God.

How many times must it be repeated that moHAMed is considered the "prefect man" by the moslem minions, a man who must be imitated at all cost?

Do the Cartoon Riots ring a bell, ANYONE?

Lord have MERCY and PLEASE outfit these liberals with a BRAIN!!

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DJ

"...If people are dumb enough to fall for it then they are even dumber than the moHAMedan masses in a self-whipping frenzy, like they have in iran once a year.

How many times must it be explained that in PIGSlam the KKKoran is considered the UNALTERABLE DIRECT word from alla - I just can't bring myself to call this primitive bloodthirsty satan God..."

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That's right, Ummah!

If anyone here dosen't have a clear understanding of what Islam an its practitioners are all about, I implore you to read "Because They Hate" By Brigitte Gabriel

http://www.amazon.com/Because-They-Hate-Survivor-Islamic/dp/0312358377

gringoman

MAMA GRIZZLY BULLETIN

THIS JUST IN from Rush Limbaugh

One hour before Mitt Romney announces in New Hampshire that he's running, Sarah Palin says that "Romneycare" may be Romney's "fatal flaw."

FYI I'm not sure if this is newsworthy enough to post, since many, including Monicamemo reg DJ, assure us that Palin is not running....but, Oh what the heck....

gringoman

Re MAMA GRIZZLY BULLETIN

I have not confirmed that Sarah Palin actually dropped that "bomb" on a leading candidate from Gooper World, Mitt Romneycare. My only source is Rush Limbaugh. If anyone can refudiate, go for it!

gringoman

MAMA GRIZZLY AT BUNKER HILL

Palin fires shot at Romney at Bunker Hill
By NBC's Shawna Thomas, Alex Moe, and Mark Murray

In remarks made at Bunker Hill in Massachusetts -- of all places -- Sarah Palin fired a shot at Mitt Romney over the health-care mandate that Romney signed into law in the state in 2006.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/06/02/6772188-palin-fires-shot-at-romney-at-bunker-hill

Ummahgummah

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I hope she DID, Gringoman! Someone's got to say it. I heard Rush mocking the Mitt's lackluster speech.. made me chuckle..

The guy is beyond useless where first beating the Bama AND then changing the course the country is on are concerned!

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LongRifle

My only source is Rush Limbaugh. If anyone can refudiate, go for it!

Posted by: gringoman | June 02, 2011 at 03:16 PM

Refudiate...LOL

Ummahgummah

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Hannity is on WIENERGATE like white on rice! he is a good attack dog as long as RATs are the ones who are subject to his bile.

And Wiener does deserve it!

If only Hannity could also turn his energies on the RINOS every now and then!

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Ummahgummah

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Personally I agree with Hannity that Wiener is indeed guilty. Why does he refuse to bring in Law Enforcement to trace the IP address where the post came from?

Is it because he knows it's his own?

The guy is always pointing his finger at Republicans. Now he is reaping what he sowed.

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Dgscol

She rolls as a capitalist, as Monica pointed out, she still being on the payroll of Fox. Monica could join her - as they enter the town house where the Republican Party came into existence.

I have something for someone to consider - Sec. of Defense JAmes Forrestal died in 1949 as he mysteriously fell out of a window in the Naval Hospital in Bethesda, just shortly before his relatives said he was to be discharged. He was there for observation since he was acting strangely, and in an excited state. With Russian operatives roaming around Washington, and there being no protection for cabinet members, it should not have been a surprise that Sec. Forrestal, who was also an admiral was besieged, as he carried our side of the Cold War. After this event, the Sec. of Defense was provided Secret Service protection.

Why mention this? Someone brought it to my attention that Joe McCarthy did not suffer from cirosis of the liver. He, like Sec. Forrestal, was mentally exhausted and sought relief - at the same hospital in 1954. Was Sen. McCarthy poisoned?

Dgscol

There is also the possibility that no one is in Sen. McCarthy's coffin.

DJ

There is also the possibility that no one is in Sen. McCarthy's coffin.

Posted by: Truther | June 02, 2011 at 04:03 PM

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Has the case of John P. Wheeler III's mysterious homicide ever been solved?

DJ

MAMA GRIZZLY BULLETIN

THIS JUST IN from Rush Limbaugh

One hour before Mitt Romney announces in New Hampshire that he's running, Sarah Palin says that "Romneycare" may be Romney's "fatal flaw."

FYI I'm not sure if this is newsworthy enough to post, since many, including Monicamemo reg DJ, assure us that Palin is not running....but, Oh what the heck....

Posted by: gringoman | June 02, 2011 at 03:07 PM

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You're right, Gringoman, it's not very newsworthy since most have been saying that very thing for how long now? How many years?

Ummahgummah

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There IS a difference between Rush and Hannity. Where earlier Rush was mocking the Governor's speech, Hannity just described that very same speech as "very strong words for the president".

LOL

I heard the soundbites. Rush described it far more accurately.

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Ummahgummah

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More from WIENERGATE:

http://prudencepaine.com/2011/05/29/porn-star-says-weiner-sent-her-a-private-message/

Porn Star Says Weiner Sent Her a Private Message

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gringoman

MAMA GRIZZLY BULLETIN

THIS JUST IN from Rush Limbaugh

One hour before Mitt Romney announces in New Hampshire that he's running, Sarah Palin says that "Romneycare" may be Romney's "fatal flaw."

FYI I'm not sure if this is newsworthy enough to post, since many, including Monicamemo reg DJ, assure us that Palin is not running....but, Oh what the heck....

Posted by: gringoman | June 02, 2011 at 03:07 PM

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You're right, Gringoman, it's not very newsworthy since most have been saying that very thing for how long now? How many years?

Posted by: DJ | June 02, 2011 at 04:26 PM

Alas, DJ, maybe you're right, but the media pros seem to think you're wrong. I just counted 14 DiFFERENT news sites, ranging from Left to Right to in-between who are carrying the story from Bunker Hill: Palin's Shot Heard 'Round the Gooper World.

That's 14 without even looking for others, which I suspect would be as easy to find as "experts" who say Palin isn't running.

gringoman

Pouring Iced Tea on Mitt Romneycare

ABC News' Huma Khan reports: The day he’s set to announce his presidential ambitions, Mitt Romney is coming under attack by a Tea Party group that says the former Massachusetts governor isn’t conservative enough to represent conservatives.

The Western Representation PAC, a Nevada-based group led by the infamous former Alaska Senate candidate and Tea Party darling Joe Miller, launched its “Stop Romney” campaign today, designed to prevent Romney from becoming the GOP candidate.

“In a matchup against Obama, Tea Party voters are looking for a consistent constitutional conservative," Miller said in a statement. "We will never get behind Mitt Romney. On issues like gun rights, gay rights, abortion, immigration, and health care, Romney has flipped more than John Kerry flopped.”

gringoman

A spokesman for the group said it's too early to say how much money it will spend on the campaign, but the PAC will focus its efforts in New Hampshire, where Romney is making his announcement today.

"If we can stop Romney from winning New Hampshire, we can stop him from winning the nomination," Executive Director Bryan Shroyer told ABC News.

As part of the campaign, the PAC will mobilize its grassroots efforts and air broadcast ads. The group hasn’t officially supported any candidate in the Republican lineup so far, but says it’s targeting Romney because it doesn’t believe he can win a race against President Obama.

“We just know that if Mitt Romney wins the nomination, we’ll be looking at a repeat of Bob Dole’s feckless 1996 campaign and a landslide defeat,” Shroyer said.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/06/mitt-romney-targeted-by-joe-millers-tea-party-group.html

DJ

I just counted 14 DiFFERENT news sites, ranging from Left to Right to in-between who are carrying the story from Bunker Hill: Palin's Shot Heard 'Round the Gooper World.

That's 14 without even looking for others....

Posted by: gringoman | June 02, 2011 at 07:14 PM

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Well, all day long at the Memo I hear how great Sarah is at this or how wonderful Sarah did that! Sarah, Sarah, Sarah!

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