Going Back to the 2008 Playbook

Barack Obama spent the first two years of his presidency blaming his predecessor for everything. Bad economy? Bush's fault. Frayed relations with our allies? Bush's fault. Poor reputation in the world? Bush's fault. Wars in the Middle East? Bush's fault. Can't get a great cheeseburger? Bush's fault.

The tactic of constantly blaming the guy who came before worked for a while. A lot of people were fed up with Bush, or at least fatigued. They wanted a change, and Obama grabbed that desire, manipulated it, played on it, and rode it all the way to the presidency. Having seen the tactic work splendidly during the campaign, Obama then put it into play once in office. Any time there was bad news, he trotted out the previous administration and said, "Don't look at me! That guy did it!"

November 2010 changed all of that. By voting for Republicans in droves, giving them control of the House and big new numbers in the Senate, Americans signaled that they had had enough of the blame game. Two years in, it was unseemly, ridiculous, and counterproductive. "Why is he spending all of this time and energy on blaming Bush when he should be expending that time and energy on fixing our problems?" they thought. And they socked it to him and his party.

After November, Obama seemed to get it and began to lay off Bush---until this week, when he reverted to form. In Iowa yesterday, he said, "No matter what you may hear, there's no silver bullet to reverse a decade of economic challenges. We've had problems for 10 years now. It's not going to reverse overnight."

Here we go again. He is pathetically pleading for more time and more money to create jobs. Eight hundred and sixty-one days after he signed the Democratic Congress' $787-billion stimulus bill that he claimed was going to work almost immediately and absolutely keep unemployment below 8%, Obama offered another jobs speech----with unemployment at 9.1%. He wants more time to do what he and his administration promised would be happening 2 years ago.

For Obama, jobs always came after something more crucial to his socialist agenda: health care "reform," financial regulatory "reform," cap and trade, and on and on. As a result, Democrats lost big time in November---but they've won the bigger war in terms of policies that will fundamentally change America.

So they lose some seats, or even control of Congress? So what, if it's for their "greater good?" Ah, but Obama always figured his job would be safe, because he believed he was insulated from the political hurricanes effecting everyone else. Perhaps it's dawning on him that instead of being immune to accountability, he will be held the MOST accountable for the horrific economy.

It is, after all, now Obama's economy. And the job Americans may want to see created most is for a Republican in the White House.

Comments

[FK]

The problem with this argument is it's setting up a strawman. I'm not saying Obama didn't blame Bush a few times, but Monica is exaggerating how much and how often. Even the quote she provides is not a clear case of 'blaming' Bush. Saying we've had "economic problems" for 10 years and saying there's no magic cure is not saying 'it's all Bush's fault'.

This essay blows. Monica comes across as a whiner, not Obama.

[AllieEmet]

Monica makes a decent point with healthcare reform, but if she wants to play the socialist agenda card, she needs to do more than just throw it out there.

[Scott]

FK, perhaps you had your TV and radio off during the 2008 campaign and the first two years of this horrendous administration. The Democrats STILL blame Bush for everything even though they had total control of Congress from January, 2007, to January, 2011 -- FOUR YEARS.

The recession began in 2007. From 2002-2006, we had record LOW unemployment (4.9%), record HIGH stock market (over 14,000), and the highest economic growth in forty years. Then, the Democrat majority started in 2007, and with their threats to raise taxes, the recession began. The worst happened as soon as Obama won the nomination and everyone knew that so many would fall for his charm and charisma and put him in charge.

I do blame Bush for not vetoing enough waste when he had the opportunities.

[thebuckstopshere]

do I have this correct?........in 2010 the repubes took back the house..........does not the house control the purse strings?.....................

NO MONEYCHANGERS 2012

[Ummahgummah]

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SCOTT, you might as well be talking to a wall. "FK" is an old school libtroll who is 100% on dogma.

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[satan]

Monica darlin' whenzyagunnabaothermoi.... i'senappin' latersoshoupndomooiurselph.

[Dgscol]

To get jobs, we must end the free trade posture that is killing our economy. Hillary, stop the appeasement, and read them the terms :

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/10-reasons-why-conservatives-should-be-against-unfair-trade-with-china-and-10-reasons-why-liberals-should-be-against-unfair-trade-with-china

No purchase of US companies without fair trade, no onshoring Chinese workers here in the US, and we shall adopt protectionist measures where needed.

But about Chinese abortion ....

I know it is a social conservative value - to be pro life, and I admire people in the US feeling that way about our culture. Where I have a problem , is thinking it is a universal value. Chinese population is a crisis situation, and they are taking draconian measures as a result. If they do not, they have to export body parts to other countries in the form of a human being. It is important, for without population control in China, there is no improvement in the quality of life there, and Chinese economic aggression will continue.

[gringoman]

Unfortunately, Club Gooper's fiscal socialists, typified by Monica's Georgie Boosh, and the cunning Liberal Racists, typified by slickster Soetoro=Obama, who enforce their more direct and deadly socialism, under Marxist abstract nouns like "fairness" and "equality" and "justice" yadda-blabba, cannot be rounded up and put away.

They can't be quarantined. They can't be settled in a penal colony, preferably on the moon, or in a Castro rehab.

That's the American tragedy today.

The American hope is that somehow even the entitled, and of course the millions who support the entitled, can somehow use a New Media lubricant to overcome their Ruling Crass masters who have hijacked the Founders.

Anybody giving odds, as things get Greece-ier and Greece=ier?

[gringoman]

Newbies: re the trollbot infestation. These creatures are known by their dimwit dogma. They often practice the sleazy art of selective quotation, as if the intelligentsia at Monicamemo doesn't know that Ronald Reagan was once a New Deal Democrat, Michel Bachmann was once a Carter Democrat, George Bush is a fiscal socialist, some other effete Republicans even turned poqwessive, after the shifty Marxobots pummeled them for years with WGS (White Guilt Syndrome) and the little Sorosbots, sponsored by control freak billionaire George Soros, can yap about the "evil capitalists," as if we the educated aren't well aware that not all businessmen are pure as the driven snow, although we are sure that all little Marxobots are craven water carriers for the old, old, old, old class war game---a sure sign of their moral and mental bankruptcy.

Conclusion: Ask what you can do for your country?

HAVE A GOOD DAY

STARVE A TROLL

[gringoman]

FEED GOLDFISH, NOT TROLLS

[RafeMasters_76]

Bush had 8 years to screw up our country. It's going to take Obama a while to set things straight. Seriously, Monica? How can you deny this?

[gringoman]

Rush Limbaugh: "I'm the reason God invented radio."

Ummah,

Rush here clearly pretends to know the mind of God. So why isn't Michael Savage, or at least the pseudo-intellectual glibniks of the hackstream media, charging their bete noire "Golfer" with blasphemy?

[gringoman]

Monica does a good job on the Marxoboob Playbook for 2008. (FYI. 'Marxoboob' refers chiefly to the targets of neocom and Marxie agitprop, especially the 'proletariat' and increasingly what Marx himself called 'the lumpenproletariat,' a fancy word for shiftless rabble with their hands out. The Marxoboob operative may or may not qualify as a boob, despite troll trash appearances. At the very least, the Marxoboob operative has to be able to spread Marxie Talking Points to the boobery. The media Marxoboob is especially valuable if he can read jokes that are written for him.)

If Monica doesn't mind, I'll fast forward to Independent Playbook 2011.

Question: What do Barack Obama, Michel Bachmann, KEN MEHLMAN, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity, NJ Governor Christie and, yes, Michele Obama all have in common? Hint: It sets them clearly and distinctly apart from MONICA CROWLEY.

Answer: They all take a clear position on SSSM (Same Sex So-called Marriage.) With the exception of G.O.P. power player, the homosexual KEN MEHLMAN, they all oppose SSSM.

/////By JENNIFER EPSTEIN | 6/28/11 11:31 AM EDT
First lady Michelle Obama’s office on Tuesday quickly shot down the suggestion that she has ever publicly voiced support for same-sex marriage, a policy her husband opposes even as the left pressures him to take a stand.

“Mrs. Obama has never made any public statements about same-sex marriage,” her communications director, Kristina Schake, said in an email to POLITICO.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57923.html#ixzz1QcpXZ2jA

gringoNOTE: If anyone can dispute or update The Crowley
Position,as revealed here, feel free.

[thebuckstopshere]

imo, our country has been in a toilet bowl spiral since Viet Nam...............the love children may have had a good idea on govn't overthrow, but their delivery of idea brought US to where we are today..........MORE GOVERNMENT, LESS FREEDOM, DEBT GALORE.......& yet many of these peaceniks are now in POWER & finally fulfilling their agenda........class warfare, the haves vs the have nots...........two classes just what the "two parties" are delivering......

GIVE US A LEADER 2012

[gringoman]

Michele Bachmann: Don't Call Her a Feminist

No girl-power rhetoric here: Michele Bachmann tells Kirsten Powers she’s just an “empowered American” who takes media indignities foreign to the average male pol in stride.
June 28, 2011

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/28/michele-bachmann-for-president-2012-don-t-call-her-a-feminist.html?om_rid=NsfaZ3&om_mid=_BOCx5vB8cH4acF

gringoNOTE: I like Bachmann's POV on this. The pogwessive hacks will have to slime her even more now. She just grabbed one of the sacred reptiles the Marxoboobs use to hypnotize women and bashed its brains out.

[DJ]

"Why is he spending all of this time and energy on blaming Bush when he should be expending that time and energy on fixing our problems?" (-Monica)

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Yeah, if McCain had won, we wouldn't be in this deep mess we're in. He's a reeeeeeeal conservative!

Pawlenty/Huntsman 2012

[gringoman]

DAILY BEAST//////In a conversation last year, she marveled to me that Democrats were bragging that their health-care plan allows parents to keep their kids on their health-care plans until age 26. “Why would any parent want their kid on their health-care plan when they are 26?” she asked. “Parents want their kids to grow up and take care of themselves. A 26-year-old is an adult.”

Bold words in today’s culture of eternal adolescence.

In late 2010, when conservative pundit S.E. Cupp told CNN’s Larry King that she thought Bachmann should run for president, the panel erupted in giggles. King was puzzled: “Are you kidding or do you mean that?”

Nobody should be laughing now

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/28/michele-bachmann-for-president-2012-don-t-call-her-a-feminist.html?om_rid=NsfaZ3&om_mid=_BOCx5vB8cH4acF

gringoNOTE: This is getting good. Bachmann is upsetting Libworld's hackstream. She;s not backing down. When they do their little "gotcha" on her, misrepresenting what she said about the "Founding Fathers," for example, she doesn't worry at all. She coolly realizes that these hacks are her intellectual inferiors. They try to mock her for believing that the Divine may have had something to do with their conventional "evolution" regurgitating. She understands why a provocative adolescent like Matt Taibbi will write in Vanity Fair that she's "batshit crazy." That's how these so-called male "feminists" see a woman who will stand up to their poqwessive ideology which was good enough for The Communist Manifesto and Barack Obama. Women, as the male fembots see it, don't do these things. Ergo, she must be "nuts." Other women have been indoctrinated. So why can't "sophisticates" like themselves indoctrinate her? It's NOT right.

BACHMANN DELENDA EST!

ps. I don't know if she'll hang in there all the way. The pogwessive fascisti and Sorosbots will certainly wage total war if she keeps going. The adolescent sliming by a Matt Taibbi courtesy of "sophisticated" Vanity Fair is just the beginning. We shall see. Right now, though, the lady sounds interesting. But so have others, before dropping out and making way for the suffocation of GOOPER MAN, a paler version of the Obamanation.

[xbjllb]

Of all Presidents in Us history, Obama is the one who bent over more for the GOP controlled-House, patting his as*s and saying "Give it to me, Big Boys. It's all yours', whatever you want."

I hope to God the man finally finds his balls, stands up, says "Honey pot is CLOSED" and runs the chicken-playing GOP (over the debt ceiling) right off the road and off the cliff.

LET THE GOP NOT RAISE IT! LET THEM OWN THE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE AND DEPRESSION THAT FOLLOWS FOREVER! AND LET THEM REAP THE WHIRLWIND FOR DOING SO NEXT NOVEMBER and in 2014!

It's long past time to retire and recall EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM.

Not raising the debt ceiling is the VERY tool the left has been PRAYING FOR.

USE IT OR LOSE.

[gringoman]

I'll say this for MICHELE BACHMANN. Even pogwessives, in a moment of honesty, will have to admit that she looks more Presidential than Barack Obama and Joe Biden combined. (I stress, "in a moment of honesty.")

For the observant, this is not only amazing. It's a very telling commentary on the state of the USA 2011.

Two men, at the pinnacle of power in Libland America today, do not embody the national ideal, literally, as well as a certain upstart woman does.

No wonder the Libstream hackery will have to freak out in orgies of "Gotcha" and glibslime, while sparing their Anointed One. Got to keep Americanos from noticing the obvious. Got to try, at least.

Will Americanos oblige?

[gringoman]

As G.O.P., after Ken Mehlman's huge victory in Albany, swinging Republicans over to George Soros and Governor Subprime Cuomo, increasingly becomes the Gay Old Party....

Huntsman’s Gay-Rights Shakeup

An email from a consultant to supporters of the newest GOP contender casts Jon Huntsman as gay Republicans’ best bet in 2012—but though the former governor supports civil unions, he still needs to clarify his position on the issue.
June 21, 2011

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/21/huntsman-s-gay-rights-shakeup.html?obref=obinsite

[Roy Martinez]

Wouldn't it have been cheaper to give every registered voter over 18 years age $1 million and have them use the money as they saw fit? Sure, some jerks would've blown the whole wad on booze, broads and beer....but most of the rest of us would have paid off our credit cards, paid down our bills and socked the rest of it away.

[Dgscol]

Chinese air conditioning on full blast - announced they need more oil. thety must've unceremoniously grabbed it. Now we know why Obama released oil from the nation reserve :

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Crude-gasoline-supplies-apf-3171373665.html?x=0&.v=1

Now if we keep that up, and keep the stimulus flowing, we shall soon be in heaven.

[jay]

"Newbies: re the trollbot infestation. These creatures are known by their dimwit dogma. They often practice the sleazy art of selective quotation"

Sounds like conservatives as well. Nitpick the past, so it fits your own agenda.Like people nitpick the Bible.

The recession began in 2007. From 2002-2006, we had record LOW unemployment (4.9%), record HIGH stock market (over 14,000), and the highest economic growth in forty years. Then, the Democrat majority started in 2007, and with their threats to raise taxes, the recession began. The worst happened as soon as Obama won the nomination and everyone knew that so many would fall for his charm and charisma and put him in charge.

I do blame Bush for not vetoing enough waste when he had the opportunities.

Posted by: Scott | June 29, 2011 at 10:39 AM

And, Bush took a budget surplus and created a huge debt.
His tax cuts did not lower the debt, but raised it.
there was also a loss in revenue. Took years for it to reach Clinton's last year in office.

the record high stock market? That's simple. The market dropped so far after 9/11. How could it do anything else but GO UP?
the market has done better under Democrats than Republicans.

The threat to raise taxes? Last time the GOP had a balanced budget was in 1956 with 91% rates.

SCOTT, you might as well be talking to a wall. "FK" is an old school libtroll who is 100% on dogma.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 29, 2011 at 12:24 PM

Have noticed that about conservatives. They don't care about what works. Just what benefits their rich buddies.
Bush1 called Reagan's tax proposal Voodoo economics. Said it would not lower the debt, create jobs, etc. History proved him correct. But, the conservatives continue with their "See no evil, hear no evil" mentality.

reagan had a higher unemployment rate 10.8%, than under Obama. He cut taxes, then the next year, raised them . he raised taxes 8 times. And, he and Bush expanded big government more than anyone.

Notice how conservative trolls use selective quotes, and accused others of the same. Which they would deny of commiting the same acts themselves? It's always , "the other side" syndrome.

Why did the republicans do so well in 2010? For, the SAME reason the Democrats did so well in 2008. That's a normal, "blame who is in power act" Been going on for decades. Will continue to do so. If, the tebaggers win in 2012. And, the country tanks. Then teabaggers will go the way of the Copperheads.

"
The nation’s unnerving descent into debt began a decade ago with a choice, not a crisis.

In January 2001, with the budget balanced and clear sailing ahead, the Congressional Budget Office forecast ever-larger annual surpluses indefinitely. The outlook was so rosy, the CBO said, that Washington would have enough money by the end of the decade to pay off everything it owed.

From surplus to debt
Running in the red

Part 2: How the GOP’s no-tax orthodoxy came to be

Voices of caution were swept aside in the rush to take advantage of the apparent bounty. Political leaders chose to cut taxes, jack up spending and, for the first time in U.S. history, wage two wars solely with borrowed funds. “In the end, the floodgates opened,” said former senator Pete Domenici (R-N.M.), who chaired the Senate Budget Committee when the first tax-cut bill hit Capitol Hill in early 2001.

Now, instead of tending a nest egg of more than $2 trillion, the federal government expects to owe more than $10 trillion to outside investors by the end of this year. The national debt is larger, as a percentage of the economy, than at any time in U.S. history except for the period shortly after World War II.

Polls show that a large majority of Americans blame wasteful or unnecessary federal programs for the nation’s budget problems. But routine increases in defense and domestic spending account for only about 15 percent of the financial deterioration, according to a new analysis of CBO data.

The biggest culprit, by far, has been an erosion of tax revenue triggered largely by two recessions and multiple rounds of tax cuts. Together, the economy and the tax bills enacted under former president George W. Bush, and to a lesser extent by President Obama, wiped out $6.3 trillion in anticipated revenue. That’s nearly half of the $12.7 trillion swing from projected surpluses to real debt. Federal tax collections now stand at their lowest level as a percentage of the economy in 60 years.

Big-ticket spending initiated by the Bush administration accounts for 12 percent of the shift. The Iraq and Afghanistan wars have added $1.3 trillion in new borrowing. A new prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients contributed another $272 billion
The Troubled Assets Relief Program bank bailout, which infuriated voters and led to the defeat of several legislators in 2010, added just $16 billion — and TARP may eventually cost nothing as financial institutions repay the Treasury.

Obama’s 2009 economic stimulus, a favorite target of Republicans who blame Democrats for the mounting debt, has added $719 billion — 6 percent of the total shift, according to the new analysis of CBO data by the nonprofit Pew Fiscal Analysis Initiative. All told, Obama-era choices account for about $1.7 trillion in new debt, according to a separate Washington Post analysis of CBO data over the past decade. Bush-era policies, meanwhile, account for more than $7 trillion and are a major contributor to the trillion-dollar annual budget deficits that are dominating the political debate.

As Congress prepares this week to launch a high-stakes battle over whether to raise the legal limit on borrowing, the analyses offer a clearer view of the drivers of the debt — and of the difficulty of re-balancing the budget without new tax revenue.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/running-in-the-red-how-the-us-on-the-road-to-surplus-detoured-to-massive-debt/2011/04/28/AFFU7rNF_story.html

(GOT THIS COPY AND PASTE IDEA FROM THE CONSERVATIVE TROLLS)

[jay]

Bush had 8 years to screw up our country. It's going to take Obama a while to set things straight. Seriously, Monica? How can you deny this?

Posted by: RafeMasters_76 | June 29, 2011 at 01:22 PM

Simple. she's a say whatever. do whatever is good for the party gal. There are 1000s of men and woman who feel that way. Blame the other side. deny what your own side did politics.
Blame Obama for wanting to try the Christmas bomber in Civilian court. Ignore that Bush wanted to do the same with the shoe bomber. Attack Obama for wanting to close Gitmo. Ignore that Bush felt the same way. Both sides have people like that. Elections are more ,"what's good for the party. Than, what's good for the country."
As, a GOP politician said,"The Republicans can't afford for the Democrats to win at anything."

[jay]

cap-n -trade.
Originally a Republican idea.

[Dgscol]

TBSH : It is an American weakness to fight itself in everything it does, and Vietnam was surely no exception. We also have the freedom to instigate almost anything, whether it is sensible or not. So far our national dialog has been our strength in the long term. We seem to be easily manipulated by our enemies through bribery, and internal influence mongering - especially through the Left, and ... increasingly on the Right. It is good to sense some concerted planning/strategizing in the inner councils of our government. Not long ago they were not even talking to one another - which can be exploited by our enemies to our disadvantage.

Is Chavez suffering from a bad diet? Bone abscesses like that can occur from pushing too hard when being constipated, especially as one ages. He may eat too rapidly, or it might be the food selection of his cook. When it comes to tricks with food - the experts are Egyptians or Chinese.

[Black justice]

President Obama did a excellent job of kicking House Speaker Crybaby John Bohmer(Boner) and the conservative Congress in their teeth this morning at the press conference.
Pres. Obama is trying to get us out of this economic recession that your conservatives caused. George W. Bush and Dick head Cheny was in office for 8 years and screwed up everything.

Pres. Obama and the progressive movement strive to get us all out of this economic recession but the corrupt and racist republicans refuse to make a deal with our Pres. Obama.
We need to tax the greedy rich!!!! The poor, working poor and middle class are struggling to make ends meet.
@Fat girl Monica Crowley, listen to your brother in law Alan Colmes and Honorable Rev. Al Sharpton.
You just might learn something.
Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, Ann Coulter, and of course Monica Crowley need to be chain up, whipped, and peed on until you show Pres. Obama respect.

[gringoman]

Bachmann: Media wants a 'mud wrestling fight' with Palin
mug.hamby By: CNN Political Reporter Peter Hamby

Daniel Island, South Carolina (CNN) - Presidential candidate Michele Bachmann claimed Wednesday that the media is rooting for a catfight between her and Sarah Palin.

"They want to see two girls come together and have a mud wrestling fight, and I am not going to give that to them," Bachmann told a voter Wednesday who asked about her relationship with the former Alaska governor.

The Minnesota congresswoman praised Palin and said there is room in the Republican presidential race for any candidate.

"This race is wide open and we can accommodate all the candidates who want to come in," she said.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/29/bachmann-media-wants-a-mud-wrestling-fight-with-palin/

[gringoman]

gringoNOTE: Monica has been cheering on Michele Bachmann. Would love to hear Princess on Michele's hubbie, Dr, Bachmann. (Princess?....Princess?,,,,Crickets?")

Bachmann’s Husband Calls Homosexuals ‘Barbarians’ Who ‘Need To Be Educated’ And ‘Disciplined’

By Guest Blogger on Jun 29, 2011 at 4:18 pm

When trying to figure out where presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) gets her stringent, anti-gay views, you only have to look as far as her husband. Dr. Marcus Bachmann, who has described himself as his wife’s “strategist,” runs a Christian-based counseling center in Minnesota that has been rumored to offer reparative treatment for those looking to “ungay” themselves.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/06/29/257646/bachmanns-husband-calls-homosexuals-barbarians-who-need-to-be-educated-and-disciplined/

[gringoman]

NO FOOD STAMPS FOR TROLLS!

[gringoman]

DON'T FEED TROLLS

LEAVE THEM TO DR BACHMANN

DR BACHMANN///// We have to understand: barbarians need to be educated. They need to be disciplined. Just because someone feels it or thinks it doesn’t mean that we are supposed to go down that road. That’s what is called the sinful nature. We have a responsibility as parents and as authority figures not to encourage such thoughts and feelings from moving into the action steps…

[gringoman]

LET DR BACHMANN FEED TROLLS

The climax of the presentation was when, according to Prins, Dr. Bachmann brought up “three ex-gays, like part of a PowerPoint presentation.” The trio, two white men and a black woman, all testified that they had renounced their homosexuality. “One of them said, ‘If I was born gay, then I’ll have to be born again,’” Prins recalls. “The crowd went crazy.”

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/06/29/257646/bachmanns-husband-calls-homosexuals-barbarians-who-need-to-be-educated-and-disciplined/

Monica: Does Dr. Bachmann have a rehab for trolls and pogwessive Sorosbots?

[gringoman]

Pogwessives are warning: If Michele Bachmann becomes President, they will move to Sweden! Imagine that! Deracinated Sweden, known for its suicide rate, is outlawing the mention of 'male' and 'female' in the school system.

Will the trolls book a flight with the pogwessives?

[gringoman]

BACHMANN / STEPHANOPOULOS UPDATE: You know who else said the Founders worked to end slavery? Abraham Lincoln. Well, he was just another dumb slopehead from flyover country, right?

Posted at 1:32 pm by Glenn Reynolds

[jay]

DR BACHMANN///// We have to understand: barbarians need to be educated. They need to be disciplined. Just because someone feels it or thinks it doesn’t mean that we are supposed to go down that road. That’s what is called the sinful nature. We have a responsibility as parents and as authority figures not to encourage such thoughts and feelings from moving into the action steps…

Posted by: gringoman | June 29, 2011 at 09:37 PM

Funny how conservatives call those who do not agree with them, Barbarians!

And, Bachmann?
Have heard some conservative hopefuls that do have some good points.
Bachmann ain't one of em!

Some of what she has said, reminds me of Obama's 57 states.

She blamed the democrats for the swine flu

"How the recession that FDR had to deal with wasn't as bad as the Recession that Coolidge had to deal with in the early 1920s."
(Actually, it was a depression that started under Harding in 1929-1930.)

"coolidge solved his recession with lower taxes. Which gave us the roaring 20s"

While FDR made his recession worse with higher taxes.

(But, the taxes went from the 60s-70s % in the early 1920s. To 25% in 1925. Then in 1931 they raised them.)

FDR created the Hoot-Smalley act which made the dression worse.

(The Hoot-What act? It was Hoover, a republican that signed the Smoot-Hawley act. Smoot and Hawley were also Republicans)

And, the comment made earlier that the Democrats threatening to raise taxes is what caused the current recession?
No, it was the finacial fiasco.

[jay]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot-Hawley_Tariff_Act

The evil act that made the depression worse.Signed and created by the evil Dem- er- Republicans!

[Ummahgummah]

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DON'T FEED THE TROLL.

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[Ummahgummah]

Rush Limbaugh: "I'm the reason God invented radio."

Ummah,

Rush here clearly pretends to know the mind of God. So why isn't Michael Savage, or at least the pseudo-intellectual glibniks of the hackstream media, charging their bete noire "Golfer" with blasphemy?

POSTED BY: GRINGOMAN | JUNE 29, 2011 AT 01:22 PM

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I hink Rush is being tongue in cheek, pushing LIEberal buttons as he knows how to do just right.

The libs can hardly cry blasphemy since they are an ongoing blasphemy.

LOL

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[thebuckstopshere]

imo these ads are spot on...........

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=82237

NO RINOS 2012

[xbjllb]

"I'll say this for MICHELE BACHMANN. Even pogwessives, in a moment of honesty, will have to admit that she looks more Presidential than Barack Obama and Joe Biden combined." - Gringoman

In your dreams. NO WOMAN pointing coat hangers at frightened young girls uteruses looks Presidential.

Except maybe in hell. Hell, maybe you have a point after all, SINCE YOU AND YOURS HAVE MADE THIS COUNTRY AND THIS PLANET HELL.

[M/M]

hink Rush is being tongue in cheek, pushing LIEberal buttons as he knows how to do just right.

The libs can hardly cry blasphemy since they are an ongoing blasphemy.

LOL

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 30, 2011 at 01:33 AM
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Ditto. Part of his humor.

[M/M]

"A clear message has been sent out that those people providing public services ... have a duty to treat services users equally, with dignity and respect, as the public authority itself must,” said Andrew Copson, head of the British Humanist Association, in response to the U.K. ruling.

“In a modern liberal democracy, there can be no ‘opt out’ for those who say they are unable to do their jobs because they wish to discriminate, even when that desire to discriminate derives from a religious belief.”

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/new-york-clerk-fights-for-right-not-to-participate-in-same-sex-marriage/

[M/M]

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-poland-to-vote-on-historic-bill-banning-all-abortions-after-massiv

[gringoman]

Rush Limbaugh: "I'm the reason God invented radio."

Ummah,

Rush here clearly pretends to know the mind of God. So why isn't Michael Savage, or at least the pseudo-intellectual glibniks of the hackstream media, charging their bete noire "Golfer" with blasphemy?

POSTED BY: GRINGOMAN | JUNE 29, 2011 AT 01:22 P

Think Rush is being tongue in cheek, pushing LIEberal buttons as he knows how to do just right.

The libs can hardly cry blasphemy since they are an ongoing blasphemy.

LOL

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 30, 2011 at 01:33 AM
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Ditto. Part of his humor.

Posted by: M/M | June 30, 2011 at 07:34 AM

Of course Rush's tongue was planted solidly in cheek. In which case the Christian could accuse him of taking the Lord's name in vain. (No? Does anyone know of a single passage in the Bible, Old Testament or New, that does what the Greeks always did, employ humor with the Divine? In the Bible, God is never a laughing matter, even if the humor were totally respectful. In Greece, the gods were always fair game.)

No wonder the pogwessives were silent. The few who recognized a "pagan" touch in Rush's outburst were as speechless as the majority who didn't.

[thebuckstopshere]

more wiener drama, from the momma.........

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/06/30/weiners-wife-bolts-on-him/

NO PERVS 2012

[jay]

"Bachmann indicated that she would support a one year moratorium on federal income taxes."

How about this. Let's go back to the way things were during Daniel Boones time. Since it seems that's what teabaggeres want. Gasoline taxes are wrong. Because our founding fathers didn't have to pay it. Then, why should we?

[FK]

SCOTT, you might as well be talking to a wall. "FK" is an old school libtroll who is 100% on dogma.

Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 29, 2011 at 12:24 PM

No one is more committed to dogman than you, Ummahgumhead. I can't believe you still spend all your time here. Have you ever actually learned anything?

[xbjllb]

"And the job Americans may want to see created most is for a Republican in the White House." - Monica Crowley

Glad you said "may". Americans' memories, in the main, aren't that short, and they remember who and what deregulation policies got us into this mess in the first place, starting from 1980. And the brief respite of the 90's from the downward spiral.

Your base, on the other hand? They don't remember The Jonas Brothers.