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June 08, 2011

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jay

There comes the race card.. as unbelievable as it is predictable. They find a way to insert race into anything.

Libs are like the BLACK HOLE. They swallow up all reason.

Now das raaacis'

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 08, 2011 at 08:41 PM

Have found that those who speak of race, are the conservatives on the memo.They ty it to everything.

thebuckstopshere

leave it to Jay, to equate a difference of opinion & NOT wanting to hear guvmint stats to descrimination......

predict this..........nobody cares about your views, some of US (me) have already been there & AM DONE WITH IT.........

NO RINOS 2012

jay

leave it to Jay, to equate a difference of opinion & NOT wanting to hear guvmint stats to descrimination......

predict this..........nobody cares about your views, some of US (me) have already been there & AM DONE WITH IT.........

NO RINOS 2012

Posted by: thebuckstopshere | June 08, 2011 at 08:44 PM

The government stats? Why believe what you try so hard to ignore? Right? It's easier to deny the truth sometimes, isn't it?
What Government stats?
My saying that gold is tied to the Swiss and oil to the Cad?

Ummahgummah

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What I am trying to get at - though I really wanted to hear what a few of you consider as rich - is that this "tax the rich" slogan is exactly that - a slogan.

A slogan that reeks of cheap populism while the effects will be felt by many and not just "the rich".

If we define "poor" properly and then look at what our average welfare consumers enjoy in their lives we will quickly discover that they are not nearly as poor as we'd been led to believe.

First and foremost, time to close the borders, cut welfare to a minimum and more based on handing out actual goods rather than cash, then let's see how many illegals we still need to "do the work that Americans won't do".

Those two measures alone should have a huge impact on the deficit right then and there. And on crime. Idle hands and all that, ya dig?

The solutions are right in front of us.. but the RATS keep trying to prevent CHANGE.

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Ummahgummah

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Unfortunately the GOP is a chicken coop filled with weaklings trying to get a few grains that the RATS leave them in their perpetual feeding frenzy.

I think TBSH got it right.

Bachmann got suckered and ROVE is rubbing his hands just about now. And Bachmann even paid for the damage done to herself more than to Sarah Palin.

Rove must be so proud of himself right now.

And the enemy within brays: alla hu akbar!

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Ummahgummah

leave it to Jay, to equate a difference of opinion & NOT wanting to hear guvmint stats to descrimination......

predict this..........nobody cares about your views, some of US (me) have already been there & AM DONE WITH IT.........

NO RINOS 2012

POSTED BY: THEBUCKSTOPSHERE | JUNE 08, 2011 AT 08:44 PM

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Amazingly, the lib still insists on "replying" where no reply was solicited.

Sheesh!

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thebuckstopshere

Jay I got a pretty good memory & am not referring to your most recent posts (GUVMINT STATS)...............LIBERAL PUHLEEZE


NO RINOS 2012

Ummahgummah

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Best not to respond to jay-bot at all.

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jay

First, agree with the solving the illegal imigrants question. You live in New York. I have lived in several southern , highly hispanic states. So agree with Arizona. The rich and poor?
The rich meaning millionaires and billionaires. Spend their money on things like super yachts, etc. The second in charge at Microsoft. had 2 that were like over 300'
So, he wanted another over 400'
Now, he can spend his money anyway he wants. But, the poor. many of them just want to give to their kids what they didn't have.-A college education. Many kids, the only guarantee food they have is at school.
Democrats want to help the kids eat and better themselves though education. The conservatives? Heard they want to stop Pell Grants. At least cut down on meals to the kids. But, they sure want to give the rich even more tax cuts.
The 35%now is one of the lowest it's mean since it was started in 1913.

Ummahgummah

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I was there already. they try and sound reasonable just long enough to draw you in and the moment they think they have a bite they try and set the hook.

Libs are suckers fishing for other suckers.

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 M/M

Poppycock. This country was not built on pillaging and plundering the wealth of American Indians. This has got to be the most ridiculous post I've seen this week. That's like saying this country was built on racism because slavery was legal.

Posted by: soggy | June 08, 2011 at 11:22 AM

Soggy, You got it! This country was built on racism because slavery was legal and stealing from the Indians.
Good going!

Posted by: jay | June 08, 2011 at 07:55 PM

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Longrifle, meaning no disrespect but I agree with Soggy and Gringoman. Yes, there was injustices done to Native Americans, but Native Americans also get perks that other Americans don't. I do agree that the politicians do break the treaties they signed with Native Americans we convenient.

You should be upset about illegal immigration because how many Americans moved to this country because of it was better than where they came from. That's why my family came here and they sure didn't kill any Indians or own any slaves.

I've notice that LIEberals always make us feel guilty about what happened 100 years ago but DO NOTHING for the NATIVE COPTS IN EGYPT AND NATIVE CHRISTIANS IN IRAQ who are KIDNAPPED, RAPED, TORTURED, BEHEADED, MURDERED AND BURNED IN THEIR OWN CHURCHES. These indigenous people lived in their lands and are being driven off because of the Religion of peace. Of course, the world is not listening, just as they didn't listen to the cries in Eastern Europe in the 30s.

Having grown up in a family with a lot of baggage, I'm glad my parents didn't talk about the past because the interactions with the old country growing up made me so aware of how much fortunate I was compared to other children in the world. For this reason, I am grateful that I am an American.

I'm getting to the point where it might not bother me to have this country taken over by the illegals. My parents taught me to be an American, but even white people who live here seem more loyal to other countries than ours. The Mexicans will NEVER let them treat the Mexican flag the way they treat the American.

This is the way I grew up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyMlvxcobGA

DJ

In today's market, 60 million in net assets is generally considered the lower rung of the wealthy class.

Measuring one's *success* in life is an intangible value; it is very different and more important than mere accumulation of money or other material wealth,IMO.

jay

I was there already. they try and sound reasonable just long enough to draw you in and the moment they think they have a bite they try and set the hook.

Libs are suckers fishing for other suckers.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 08, 2011 at 09:00 PM

No. Am a guy that saw Monica on the Laughlin Group. Just wanted to talk politics like everyone else. Didn't think I would find the constant bickering, etc, though. Know I can't sway any one here. Conservatives have heard the lies by their party too long. But, find it interesting talking to "those on the other side"

 M/M

I like this dude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDjmqTKaVm0

thebuckstopshere

yeah WHAT DIGNITY? real short on dignity I'd say......

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/06/08/dems-appealing-to-weiners-sense-of-dignity-to-get-him-to-resign/

NO PERVS 2012

jay

Longrifle, meaning no disrespect but I agree with Soggy and Gringoman. Yes, there was injustices done to Native Americans, but Native Americans also get perks that other Americans don't.


Posted by: M/M | June 08, 2011 at 09:02 PM


M/M , there is something that you will find on an Indian reservation. You won't find in a white neighborhood, a black one, hispanic, asian.
It's only on an Indian reservation. That is a Hogan with a dead horse not more than 20' from the front door.

"I've notice that LIEberals always make us feel guilty about what happened 100 years ago but DO NOTHING for the NATIVE COPTS IN EGYPT AND NATIVE CHRISTIANS IN IRAQ"

that's not just a "lieberal" act. Bush took his time when it happened in Iraq.If he did anything at all.

thebuckstopshere

M/M agree with you & the colonel

NO RI-NOS 2012

Ummahgummah

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M/M is here to talk sense! On the other hand, I am not sure that Longrifle is in favor of illegal immigration or islamification.

M/M correctly points out all the benefits enjoyed by today's American Indian tribes as opposed to those who are being dispossessed of their own lands world-wide by the advancing morass of islam.

Longrifle could of course reply that Indians would prefer to roam the lands and live as they did Pre-Columbus.

But never in History have the descendants of those who initially conquered a land bestowed such a variety of benefits and privileges upon the descendants of the vanquished as America has done.

Just ask the Christians in Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Pakistan. If you can find any.

What we should properly do is help and assist those who are presently being oppressed and dispossessed, like we did in WW2.

This is what we CAN do rather than self-flagellate about the past which cannot be undone as we ignore the atrocities being perpetrated RIGHT NOW.

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 M/M

Looks like I'll be listening to Levin tonight. If Savage keeps this up, he's off my listen-to list.

McRomney not only supports ethanol subsidies, but he is a warmologist to boot.

Why would people vote for a milquetoast whitelib in Republican drag when they can have the real thing and keep voting demonRAT to boot?.

Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 08, 2011 at 02:48 PM
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I noticed that too. I don't remember what Savage was talking about but it really turned me off because he sounded like a RINO. I changed the channel.

DJ

"M/M , there is something that you will find on an Indian reservation. You won't find in a white neighborhood, a black one, hispanic, asian.
It's only on an Indian reservation. That is a Hogan with a dead horse not more than 20' from the front door." (-Jay)

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HUH? WTF is that supposed to mean?!?

jay

"M/M , there is something that you will find on an Indian reservation. You won't find in a white neighborhood, a black one, hispanic, asian.
It's only on an Indian reservation. That is a Hogan with a dead horse not more than 20' from the front door." (-Jay)

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HUH? WTF is that supposed to mean?!?


Posted by: DJ | June 08, 2011 at 09:23 PM

That the Indians in many ways don't have it as good as people think.
I have lived in States with high Indian and Hispanic populations. The 20' from the door was pushing it.

DJ

I like this dude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDjmqTKaVm0


Posted by: M/M | June 08, 2011 at 09:07 PM

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He seem's nice enough but incredibly naive. Clue to the dude: Mexicans, Africans, Asians or whatever are NOT going to give up their hyphenations. It is preciesly from those hypertension's that they derive political and economic power. It's only gullible whites that bought into MLK's color blind dream...to their own detriment.

jay

I think what Bachmann had said about Palin is wrong. A politician should say what they can do for the country. Not, by bashing another.

DJ

HUH? WTF is that supposed to mean?!?


Posted by: DJ | June 08, 2011 at 09:23 PM

That the Indians in many ways don't have it as good as people think. [...]


Posted by: jay | June 08, 2011 at 09:30 PM

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Nor do most whites.. especially rural areas.

DJ

I think what Bachmann had said about Palin is wrong. A politician should say what they can do for the country. Not, by bashing another.

Posted by: jay | June 08, 2011 at 09:39 PM

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Rollins said those things, not Bachmann.

Ummahgummah

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Best not to get involved with "jay". Best not to respond to "jay".

Honest. Works best for OPC.

But then I also tried so if Dj wants to try, who am I to judge?

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Ummahgummah

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There is one thing you will find in libworld's demented living room though: Namely Balls on a heifer.

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 M/M

M/M is here to talk sense! On the other hand, I am not sure that Longrifle is in favor of illegal immigration or islamification.

M/M correctly points out all the benefits enjoyed by today's American Indian tribes as opposed to those who are being dispossessed of their own lands world-wide by the advancing morass of islam.
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Thanks UG. Longrifle said he was opposed to illegal immigration and you gave me the idea of the indigenous religions in Middle Eastern countries that are being persecuted . The world is outraged over the FL pastor burning a book on his own propert but has no problem with this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfGPejGIjz8&feature=related

Jay, seems to be correct. Bush did nothing. In fact, I think this a good reason why we should not have invaded Iraq.

As for this 20' from the door, there are people all over the world who can't get near the door. Quit whining and be thankful you live here and not in one of these countries.

And my family is a lot closer to baggage than something that happened ove 100 years ago. I thank God my parent didn't dump that crap on me growing, saved me some therapy. If you people want to be changed to the past, more power to you.

 M/M

He seem's nice enough but incredibly naive. Clue to the dude: Mexicans, Africans, Asians or whatever are NOT going to give up their hyphenations. It is preciesly from those hypertension's that they derive political and economic power. It's only gullible whites that bought into MLK's color blind dream...to their own detriment.

Posted by: DJ | June 08, 2011 at 09:35 PM
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Can't do it. I didn't last too long with the hyphenated ones and had a huge fight with one of them when she insulted one of them.. I can't do this and I don't want to move to Europe. I love our Founding Fathers.

DJ

Best not to get involved with "jay". Best not to respond to "jay".

Honest. Works best for OPC.

But then I also tried so if Dj wants to try, who am I to judge?

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 08, 2011 at 09:50 PM

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But who can deny jay is jam-packed with wisdom? :-)

Ummahgummah

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Never heard of fudge being called wisdom before.

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DJ

M/M,

It'd be nice if everyone, every ethnic group, in America would drop the hyphenations. Of course people of European decent have already done so. In fact whites make great sacrifices and go to great lengths to accommodate other races and ethnicities, but there is little to no reciprocity. The reality is, most (not all) of these non-white 'hyphenated Americans' HATE the Founding Fathers with a passion and always will. They don't want to assimilate, they (depending on the specific race or ethnicity we are talking about) either want to takeover or destroy America.

Ummahgummah

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Alec Baldwin wants to run for mayor of New York now that the Weiner's been gated.

RUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stupid New York Moonbats might just vote for him.

I am glad that I am on my way out of here. ouff!!

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Ummahgummah

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Dj, since I wasn't able to make you laugh with my last comment, this more serious one might just interest you:

http://www.officer.com/news/10280268/feds-accuse-calif-gang-of-targeting-blacks

Hyphenated-Americans vs. Hyphenated-Americans: a Liberal dream scenario. All of them dependent on their benefactors.

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 M/M

The reality is, most (not all) of these non-white 'hyphenated Americans' HATE the Founding Fathers with a passion and always will. They don't want to assimilate, they (depending on the specific race or ethnicity we are talking about) either want to takeover or destroy America.

Posted by: DJ | June 08, 2011 at 10:29 PM
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It used to be cool to be an American. I go to the Civil War events and people can't believe I had NO ancestors fighting on either side.

I had a fight with a hyphenated one who put down another ethnic group. I went to school with all of them.

 M/M

Hyphenated-Americans vs. Hyphenated-Americans: a Liberal dream scenario. All of them dependent on their benefactors.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 08, 2011 at 10:40 PM
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My dream too. They need to get rid of some of the hyphenated white ones too.

Ummahgummah

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When it comes to career advancement the Wiener is second to none, not even the Bama who used the courts to strike his political opponents from the race.

Wiener actually used the Truth, while he never knew that it was the Truth to win his first election:

http://letters.salon.com/politics/war_room/2011/06/07/anthony_weiner_1991/view/?show=all

demonRATS called it "race-baiting", when in fact at that time the Weiner campaign was telling the truth.

the NYPD was in fact told to stand down by the Dinkins Administration during the Crown Heights riots, DIRECTLY resulting in the deaths of white-Americans.

The day after Weiner won the election he was castigated in editorials and by an outraged Racist Dinkins.. sorry, Dave.

Funny how that goes with the RATS. They tell the truth and it's called race-baiting.

They lie and everything's OK.

RATS

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 M/M

Here's a couple for the Italian witch who took offense to The Sopranos. My Italian-American boss thought it was awesome that I LOVED this show, by the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxOYxP7uEyA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUT07eZoXPw&feature=related

DJ

"Dj, since I wasn't able to make you laugh with my last comment"

UG, I thought it was hilarious!
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http://www.officer.com/news/10280268/feds-accuse-calif-gang-of-targeting-blacks

Hyphenated-Americans vs. Hyphenated-Americans: a Liberal dream scenario. All of them dependent on their benefactors.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 08, 2011 at 10:40 PM

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Boo hoo! A few blacks are facing justice Latino style. When is the Justice Dept going to prosecute blacks for assaulting, robbing, murdering, and chasing millions of whites out of entire major cities such as Detroit? Selective prosecution I'd say. Looks like institutional racism to me.

thebuckstopshere

get your red hots!

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/06/08/toast-weiners-office-admits-explicit-photo-of-mans-genitals-is-him/

ball less wonder's ofc. admits their his!

NO TWEETING PERVS 2012

LongRifle

Monica made a brilliant statement on Hannity, saying that for men, "Power is the ultimate Aphrodisiac".
Goofy looking men like Weiner and Clinton are suddenly attractive to shallow women and they can't handle it.

jay

As for this 20' from the door, there are people all over the world who can't get near the door. Quit whining and be thankful you live here and not in one of these countries.


Posted by: M/M | June 08, 2011 at 09:58 PM

But, my point was people think that Indians have it very well. They are usually those who live in states where there are few Indians.
The dead horse by the front door? You don't have to go to a third world country for that. You can find alot of what happens in third world countries here.

Bush invaded Iraq to finish his dad's war period.

Best not to get involved with "jay". Best not to respond to "jay".

Honest. Works best for OPC.

But then I also tried so if Dj wants to try, who am I to judge?

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 08, 2011 at 09:50 PM

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But who can deny jay is jam-packed with wisdom? :-)

Posted by: DJ | June 08, 2011 at 10:02 PM

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Never heard of fudge being called wisdom before.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | June 08, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Have found this lack of wisdom very prevelant among conservatives as well.
I would never think any president's trip could cost 2 billion. But, Foxnews sure did.

Ummahgummah

Savage called Palin the Paris Hilton of politics. LOL!

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I think Weiner is the Paris Hilton of politics.

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Ummahgummah

In today's market, 60 million in net assets is generally considered the lower rung of the wealthy class.

Measuring one's *success* in life is an intangible value; it is very different and more important than mere accumulation of money or other material wealth,IMO.

POSTED BY: DJ | JUNE 08, 2011 AT 09:05 PM

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Dj, you are stating the obvious. We were talking about "rich" vs "poor" for reasons of demonRHATORIC™ where taxes are concerned.

Of course success means something very different to each and every one of us.

To libs, for example success means thwarting others in their endeavours and enterprises.

For someone else it might mean winning the Bassmasters Trophy and so on..

But if you want to define "rich" you have to try and apply a universal criteria for the entire country.

$100 million will make you OK, EVEN in a place like New York, for example.

Anything less.. I dunno.. $60 million is great and everything but you might still have to worry every now and then.

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LongRifle

I'm scrollin, I'm scrolling, I'm scrolling...

Here's hoping that LONGRIFLE will post his definitions of rich and poor, regardless of the anticipated chill put on our debate by the likes of Jay.

Jay is not welcome here. LONGRIFLE is and we are interested in hearing your views.

Thanks, Bro.

MM: You are correct in your assessments. What's done is done. No one here is suggesting giving America back to the Indians or any such nonsense. That would be an even bigger injustice. The way the government handled the problem WAS the problem. Now, however, It's up to them to pull themselves up like the Japanese did.
My Sicilian father came here through Ellis island. He told me in no uncertain terms that America was the greatest country in the world. It would be a grave injustice to tolerate ILLEGAL immigration in any form.
As far as ISLAM: It is the enemy of the United States, all Jews, and all Christians. Islam does not want peace; it wants all Infidels converted or dead. Herman Cain was on Beck today and stated he would not have a Muslim in his cabinet because they would have to put Shariah law ahead of the US Constitution. I support that idea, too.
As far as the definition of rich (perhaps too rich is better); I don't have one. I do resent people like Kennedy or Kerry who inherit a Kingdom and never worked or produced anything. I WANT them to pay...Maybe I'm just covetous.
I think the poor are easier to define as a growing body of Americans who are not making enough money to support themselves without assistance, or something to that effect, and lack the opportunities that were available years ago. Even so, those on TANF and food stamps should be able to provide services like picking up freeway trash to provide some benefit for society, rather than become parasites. Everybody should produce something if they are able.
Personally, I like to hear from Jay, but find his endless statistics wearisome, even if true.

Ummahgummah

get your red hots!

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/06/08/toast-weiners-office-admits-explicit-photo-of-mans-genitals-is-him/

ball less wonder's ofc. admits their his!

NO TWEETING PERVS 2012

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And this mother still won't resign. SHAMELESSNESS, thy name is DEMOCRAT.

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Ummahgummah

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Weiner is like a real bad case of mold in the basement. Impossible to get rid of!

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Ummahgummah

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Weiner.. Frank.. Pelosi.. Ellison.. Look what else the RATS send to Congress:

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/208150.php

June 07, 2011

Former Congresswoman Wants Libyan Style Government For The U.S.
Thank God Cynthia McKinney is a former Congresswoman...


It is truly frightening that this woman was ever an American Congressperson.

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thebuckstopshere

it is truly frightening that the weiner is still a congressman.............

NO PERVS 2012

jay

Ummah, $100 million would make you okay EVEN in a place like New York?
Guess if you need a Porsche, trips to Europe, maybe a vacation home.(or two)

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