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April 27, 2011

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DJ

Let's all give credit where credit is due. Thank you Mr.Trump for forcing Barry to do what no other person(s) could.

Trump Trumped the Bama.

Now we shall see if the Mac Daddy's long-form was altered or is inauthentic.

TRUMP 2012

Ummahgummah

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I have to wonder if this bc is indeed the real thing.

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DJ

I have to wonder if this bc is indeed the real thing.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 27, 2011 at 11:21 AM
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Ummah,

It probably is, but the very fact Barry waited so long to release it raises other serious questions about his character. He could have resolved this issue the minute it came up some 3 years ago. This whole BC saga lends credibility to those who question his legitimacy. Let's face it, this president's personal past and current agenda is surrounded by an aura fraud, deception, and secrecy.

LongRifle

have to wonder if this bc is indeed the real thing.

.Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 27, 2011 at 11:21 AM

It's not, but the fix is in. (Ask anyone born in Hawaii in the 60's.)

Trump did it. He made the President back down and look like a weak, black Jimmy Carter. No one else could. Wake up, Monica. The Booshes are finished and the House of Trump is here. He is fearless. He can handle the media. He is a LEADER; something America has not seen in years.

TRUMP/ anybody but Bush--2012.

Ummahgummah

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The preacher he used to "celebrate" Easter was another white-hating RACIST in the X-lax LIEberation Theology mold.

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DJ

Even this dog is smarter than those who voted for Obama:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XivhwO_zWWg

gringoman

////The fact that Trump got to the cameras BEFORE Obama did shows that he's no chump, especially when it comes to managing the media. He knows EXACTLY what he's doing. Dismissing him is foolish/////

Princess seems to get it (about El Trump)

But do her Goopers get it?

Does her House of Boosh get it?

Does her Tokyo Rove get it?

ps In fact, does Mark Levin get it, a brilliant ideologue who can't forgive a highly successful businessman for giving to Dems in a massively Dem-infested State like New York, where Republicans could barely rise to the level of earthworms?

pps Does even Michael Savage get it, recently telling us that Trump probably has been de-railed into the "Birther" issue by a "Trojan horse" in his camp, i.e. like the NY lawyer/operative who backs Trump and used to work for Dem biggies and voted for Obama in 2008?

ppps Do "conservatives" like Charles Krauthammer get it, comparing Trump to Libworld's shuck n' jive Al Sharpton?

LongRifle

Trump's biggest hurdle is to get the entrenched RINOS of the GOP to realize that he can do all the things they CLAIM they want done. He has to get past Bloated Rove, McCain, Graham, etc., etc. He is smart to go after Megan instead of Johnny boy. The lamestreamers love her.
Obama will get the fringe, queers, (oops, gay), black racists, illegals, Spicanics, felons, and dead; Trump will get Americans. Hope it's enough...

Ummahgummah

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Why are all the RINOS getting in line to beat up on Trump? Why are RINOS so concerned about the Donald's "aisle-crawling" campaign contributions when we all know this is the sort of corruption anyone who wants to do business has to deal with these days?

RINOS want to tell us they have never heard of pay-to-play?

We should see Trumps campaign contributions to the libs as proof that even the more middle-of-the-road people, ie the much-invoked "independents" [which is what I always thought he was], are coming to their senses and the Donald is merely speaking for them AND for true Conservatives at the same time.

It seems to me that the RINOS can't stomach being taken out of the loop just like that by what they consider an outsider and an upstart.

I bet Upchuck Rove agrees with the "carnival barker" comment by the Bama today. ALL these entrenched politicians - yes, that explicitly includes the Bushes - make me PUKE.

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DJ

The preacher he used to "celebrate" Easter was another white-hating RACIST in the X-lax LIEberation Theology mold.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 27, 2011 at 11:51 AM

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Most black politicians and preachers ARE white-hating racists. So it's perfectly understandable why Obama wound up in another racist church.

Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson spells it all out for the unaware in his excellent book:

Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America

http://www.amazon.com/Scam-Black-Leadership-Exploits-America/dp/0785263314

xbjllb

What's up with the "M." on the time of birth on 5b?

What's up with the white space around many of the typed letters that look like "cut and paste"?

What's up with his race being listed as "African" (which is a nationality) when all Negro babies at the time were listed by their race as "Negro"? Any other black babies at the time born in hawaii have "african" on their birth certificate instead of "negro" or "Negroe" for race?

What's up with the jumped "K" in Kansas?

What's up with the first lower case "l" in 5a in the second typing of the city "Honolulu" where the top beam is bent? Typewriter keys are steel, they can't bend and then correct themselves.

Why does the "S" in Stanley in 13 look NOTHING like the "S" in "Hussein" in 8?

Why don't those two letter esses look the same in Hussein? A typwriter's a machine, right?

And that's just a cursory glance, and I'm not anything near a forensic expert.


Had to pop in to get this in. That document is a bogus as a three dollar bill.


Oh wait, NAILED HIM. On 13, this is clear as the day is long. As someone who learned to type long before the white correcto strips came out, when the only way to correct a mistake was a messy typewriter eraser that tore up paper (I don't even think the liquid white had been invented yet).

The first S has clearly been corrected WITH A LIGHT GREEN POWDER CORRECTO STRIP.

That's what it looks like when you type it, type the same letter with the correcto strip which deposits light green powder on the paper in the shape of the wrong letter, which was probably that thin capital "A" for "ann" (how many women had Stanley for a first name) and then when you type the correct letter, it comes out weak like that because it's being written on powder, not paper.


THIS DOCUMENT IS DOCTORED. CLEARLY. AT LEAST IT WASN'T TYPED IN 1961. NO WAY. JUST WAIT UNTIL REAL EXPERTS GET HOLD OF IT.

Someone just blew it. They thought they were being super clever when they made that obvious "mistake" thinking that would have been made back then, BUT THEN THEY CORRECTED IT WITH TECHNOLOGY AND A PRODUCT THAT DIDN'T EXIST UNTIL THE late 70's. LIGHT GREEN CORRECTO STRIPS FOR GOV DOCUMENTS.

xbjllb

Another clue. They used a new ribbon. You can type a long time before changing a ribbon, and when you do change one, the type always comes out splotchy like on this certificate. The ribbon is soaked with ink, never been typed on, and the paper can't handle the amount of ink, so splotches.

EXCEPT for the "S" in 13 on "stanley", because correcto strips powder was made to handle the extra ink and create clean letters even with new ribbons.

That's why it's clearer than the other letters, and you can clearly see the shadow of the previously typed and indented "A" in the bottom curve space of the "S".

Pros often would type 1-10 pages of gibberish just to get clear type. These are secrets that only a typist since 1964 would know.

Chances that they would have changed the ribbon right before typing this particular certificate? Just guessing, but like 1 in 1,000. Maybe more. You could easily type 1000 certificates of this type on one ribbon. And it had to have been a dedicated machine. No one was typing letters on this, just birth certificates.

Trump's typewriter experts will rip this apart in hours.

Is THIS what everyone has waited for? The final fuc*kup that nails the fraud finally?

xbjllb

One more little thing. How many of you older folks ever even HEARD the world "gynecological" used until the mid seventies?

Or saw it in print? Or on a wall in steel letters?

xbjllb

Ok, that's enough to get it started. Sorry Princess, I just couldn't quit you. Not right now.

But everyone (other than here) can take it from here. All the bunch. Trump's forensic typing experts. You know what to do. I'd even get ahold of Hawaiian long form birth certificates near Obama's birthdate to see if the type even BEGINS to match.

I don't know, but I think he's going to go down with this one. As he well should.

X out. For real this time.

gringoman

rightasrain
04/27/11 10:17

After three years of letting this fester, it took "vulgarian", "huckster" "Al Sharpton of the Republicans" Donald Trump to finally put it to rest. When a guy with those descriptions can get totally under the President's skin, I say, nicely played,Donald.

gringoNOTE: Yes, but not so fast, although even Monica says that now the issue can be put the rest. It will not be put to rest, both for positive and negative reasons. (The media hacks and Gooper Central will try to blame Trump for continuing questions about the BC.)

As for the "positive," one major fact remains no matter what you think of the "Birth Certificate" and why it took Bam-Bam years to release it and a million-dollar legal team to keep it hidden (even assuming that "inconvenient" items like 'Muslim' have not been scrubbed from the original.)

That fact is that the BC was always only the tip of the iceberg re Obama's massive amount of hidden records and transcripts. Every serious investigator knows this. The G.O.P. has colluded completely with the Democrats and Hackstream media in covering up Obama's secrecy, unprecedented for any President in US history.

Trump is hinting that he is aware of this joint Gooper/Libworld cover-up. He's now saying: Okay, let's see the school records he's still hiding.


Ummahgummah

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We do NOT need the RACIST X-lax chiming in on this. LIEberation Theology by the book: "White skin is the mark of Cain".

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thebuckstopshere

WELL NOW, assuming the RINO'S actually do want smaller government, states rights, a balanced budget, protecting OUR borders, abiding by the CONSTITUTION, I believe all of the above observations have merit....


2 million of our tax dollars spent to keep long form under wraps makes me a tad suspicious, but even more suspicious was the lack of RINO skin in the game.


GO TRUMP!

LongRifle

What's up with his race being listed as "African" (which is a nationality) when all Negro babies at the time were listed by their race as "Negro"? Any other black babies at the time born in hawaii have "african" on their birth certificate instead of "negro" or "Negroe" for race?
XBJLLB

That is what I noticed. Negro or Negroid would have been correct for that period, not African. Something stinks in Kenya. Putting African is like putting North American. Even Hawaiins aren't that dumb.

eagle

when a conspiracy theory is wrong, they release the evidence to prove that the conspiracy theorists are wrong. But when the conspiracy theorists are right, they pretend not to listen to those theorists at all...
Obama is a good man anyways, he seems to be the only president with least number of skeletons in the closet.

Eagle
http://eseaf.com/blog/author/aureagle

Ummahgummah

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I am beginning to see the pint when people call the GOP "racist".

But not in the classic way in which the libs define racism.

Let's have a look, shall we?

Reagan was an upstart Mick hacktor who had to be controlled and reined in by the WASPy Bush on his ticket.

Rove, the Bushs, Norquist, BaKKKer et al are the inner core of the innermost circle of WASPy RINOS.

Kissinger was the pet Jew in the Crew. And has since been cast aside once he outlived his usefulness.

Now we have this guy with the flashy name who runs a bunch of casinos stealing the limelight away from their chosen retreads.

He is definitely not a real WASP and he is upsetting the apple cart.

That "carnival barker" comment by the Bama will surely be a hit at inside-the-Beltway cocktail parties in weeks to come.

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xbjllb

"We do NOT need the RACIST X-lax chiming in on this. LIEberation Theology by the book: "White skin is the mark of Cain"." - UG

I've got my own lefties calling me racist against black people because I just decimated Obama's fake birth certificate, and I've got Monicamemo's Raving Lunatic As*shole here calling me racist against white people for saying, accurately, that Adam and Eve were black and God made Cain white so people wouldn't destroy him or his race.

Worked out well so far, hasn't it?

EXPOSE THE CERTIFICATE. JETTISON THE CRAP.

TRUMP 2012

DJ

X-lax is a gluteus pain.

Its racism's quite insane.

But here at the Memo,

Both lady and fellow,

Know X OWNS "the mark of Cain".

xbjllb

I decided to stay around just to annoy UG. I was going to leave, but not now.

I'd like everyone to note the timing of my original posts on the birth certificate, many of which I copied here, in the previous thread where they first appeared.

This will come in handy later when many people all over the net corroborate my findings.

Including Princess who came to the same conclusions in her post; that Trump in his first unofficial "debate" with Obama KICKED HIS AS*S.

TRUMP 2012

xbjllb

These asinine fu*ckheads don't even care that I nailed Obama. In fact, they're obviously jealous.

Which is fine. They're only here for themselves and their tiny dick agenda.

I'm here for the world, starting with this country.

TRUMP 2012

Ummahgummah

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Watch the repulsive Meghan McAnus run with that "carnival barker" bone the Bama threw them.

She's running for MSM token "mainstream Republican voice" and will surely seek to further prove her usefulness by barking against the Donald.

An even cushier job awaits.. Gotta love those media types who keep harping on "overpaid sports stars and athletes" while Katie "dumb*ss" Curacz collects a cool $15 million for what?

Derek Jeter and co. face baseballs at nearly 100 mph daily, both as batters and as fielders. There is a chance of serious injury and even death faced by athletes every day and the media harps on them being "overpaid". Countless football players are on crutches not long after they leave the game.

Meghan Mouth fits right in with the most overpaid job category ever known to Man.

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xbjllb

Princess knows what's going on, and that's ALL that matters to me.

And the majority here as well. Thanks for the support when slime attacks.

gringoman

Mamacita
04/27/11 10:06

MAMACITA I guess I am a birther, so heap your snarky scorn on me. No, I didn't want a picture of Pres. Obama's parents in front of the hospital, but I did and do wonder why so many of his records, including this one, were hidden or sealed.
I think that my curiosity shows that I am a thinking person, not a crazy person.
If you don't get it by now, the left-controlled media's first line of attack is to ridicule the opposition, any opposition. Hence, 'birthers'. It's what they did to Sarah Palin immediately after she was announced by John McCain. With the help of Tina Fey, they tried to make her a joke. It's what they tried to do with the Tea Party (tea "baggers" wink wink aren't we so witty and clever?)
A little disappointed in the "conservative" NRO writers who readily jump on this bandwagon.

gringoNOTE: Hey, Mamacita, you ain't seen nothin; yet. The Goopers, Mondo Lib and the Hackstream media are getting ready for a "Birther Bash" like you never saw.
You won't find a single one not doing the Talking Points. "See? See? Our Obama finally showed his BC! And now look at the kooks. They won;t let it go! Didn't we the "responsible" tell you about them? See? And see what Trump has foisted on us. See how he DISTRACTS us from the serious issues? Yada yada yada yada yada yadayada...."

Mamacita, get ready. The Hackapalooza is coming! Gooper Central will see it as their Revenge on Trump. They have to protect Obama. How can they help themselves? Trump, he the loose cannon.

Ummahgummah

2 million of our tax dollars spent to keep long form under wraps makes me a tad suspicious, but even more suspicious was the lack of RINO skin in the game.


GO TRUMP!

POSTED BY: THEBUCKSTOPSHERE | APRIL 27, 2011 AT 12:20 PM

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No SH*T!

The RINOS were loudly ABSENT. Trump forced the release of this document. Let's see what else he can shake loose.

Funny how the RINOS are the loudest complainers against Trump. Does he not represent those famous Independents everyone is courting these days?

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xbjllb

TRUMP 2012

Ummahgummah

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If the RINOS weren't a bunch of WASPy LAMERS, Trump wouldn't have to do their jobs for them!

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Ummahgummah

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TRUMP 2012 - He takes jobs RINOS refuse to do!

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xbjllb

TRUMP's going to concentrate too now on the Doper-In-Chief's abysmal Occidental records.

TRUMP 2012

thebuckstopshere

hey imo the lacklustre LSM can "report" (opine) whatever they want, I personally think Donald Trump has class.

More than the jiveing huckster named Barack Hussein Obama.

Only someone who practices slight of hand, smoke & mirrors, flippant remakes to REAL questions, well I guess one surely could expect that assessment of the carnival barker. I mean if this present administration hasn't been one side show after another...

GO DONALD GO!

Ummahgummah

@THEB

It's amazing how the LSM get away with packaging their opinions as facts. Joeseph Goebbels would be so proud!

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DJ

Hey X-lax, did you like the limerick I wrote about you?

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X-lax is a gluteus pain.

Its racism's quite insane.

But here at the Memo,

Both lady and fellow,

Know X owns "the mark of Cain".

Ummahgummah

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TRUMP 2012 - He takes on the jobs RINOS refuse to do!

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Ummahgummah

X-lax is a gluteus pain.

Its racism's quite insane.

But here at the Memo,

Both lady and fellow,

Know X owns "the mark of Cain".

POSTED BY: DJ | APRIL 27, 2011 AT 12:52 PM

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The X-lax is trying to ride the Trump bandwagon long enough to separate itself from its "mark of Cain" comment.

Won't work. The X-lax has nothing but enemies here.

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Ummahgummah

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TRUMP 2012 - He takes on the jobs RINOS refuse to do!

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thebuckstopshere

UG, can't speak for all Independents, but if RINOville is intelligent to not run a hasbeen, retread, say Donald Trump, hell yeah he's got my vote in A NEW YORK MINUTE (previously stated)!

TRUMP 2012

thebuckstopshere

come to think of it not only does the Donald have class, he's got moxy!

GO DONALD GO!

xbjllb

Trump is like anti-MSM kryptonite or something. The more the media pours hate on him, the better he looks and sounds. I have NEVER seen a better more exciting more thrilling press conference in my life than that lead up to Obama's fake certificate release. The man THRIVES on their HATE. And sucks it up and spits it right back at them BY MAKING PERFECT SENSE.

Thrills down the leg? Matthews, I CAME. The man was unstoppable. Question after question fired at him rapid fire, good to silly to stupid to hateful, and he handled it all. The man was in his element. You've gotta love him, because HE DOESN'T CARE WHAT ANY HATERS THINK. He doesn't. And not in Obama's snide, patronizing swarmy teacher "I'm better and smarter than you" way. No, in Trump's own inimitable shrugging "FU*CK YOU if you don't like me" New York way.

Couldn't be more perfect. And he put to rest in one PERFECT sentence the press trying to skewer him for his changes over the years:

"I adapted. I changed with changing times. I LEARNED." PERFECT.

Not a mistep. Not a single thing wrong. PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT, CA-CHING.

The more people who see that, the sooner he's in the White House.

It was electric. Chris Matthews was cursing himself as he wet his pants.

Trump's biggest secret? He's not racist. He's a stickler for the Constitutional requirements for the Presidency. Nothing more.

Chris Matthews and Lawrence O'Donnell; destroyed.

All the smarter wiser heads at MSNBC who haven't dumped on Trump yet: Maddow, Ed Schultz, Dylan Ratigan; GENIUSES for NOT going against Trump and his birther issue as virulently as Matthews and O'Donnell.

Trump is not a racist; he just cares about the constitution.

Unlike Obama-lovers.

TRUMP 2012

DJ

TRUMP 2012 - He takes on the jobs RINOS refuse to do!

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That's a keeper! It's by far the best I've heard thus far!

Ummah, if you don't mail that to Trump's campaign office, I will.

TRUMP 2012 - FROM RONALD TO THE DONALD!

xbjllb

"Won't work. The X-lax has nothing but enemies here." - UG


Only three. Three left, that is. Ran the rest off long time ago.

And (Shrug) Fuc*k YOU if you don't like me.

WE'RE ON A ROLL BABY!

TRUMP 2012

gringoman

Ummah,

Do you know what my single major concern is about Trump? It's not Mark Levin's critique. (Levin, though brilliant, is a virgin idealist re the real world of business.) It's not Michael Savage. (Savage's paranoia is "watered" in his booze---his claim that Trump is being "misled" by a Trojan Horse into taking on the "Birther" issue is really Savage's way of telling us that he, Michael Savage, is smarter than Donald Trump. Okay. Dudes need ego.

But Scumella? Scumella's support for Trump raises a red flag. Why? It fits into the Trickster paranoia that claims Trump is a plant who the Obots know they can beat (probably because of the dirt they've got on him.)

Not saying I agree with this paranoia. But it does raise the question: Why would a 9.11 Truther cum crazed Mark of Cain racist be so pro-Trump and allegedly anti-Obama, except as a deep- cover ploy to gull the Americanos?

Is there another explanation?

xbjllb

"But Scumella? Scumella's support for Trump raises a red flag." - Gringoman


Did you READ my analysis posts of his fake birth certificate? Did you even LOOK at the thing itself?

You've been (presumably) typing since the 60's. You know what year correcto strips came in. You know how long it took before they came in canary yellow, gov form green, etc. You know what I said about new ribbons and the mess they make is true, and how we'd go for YEARS without changing them if we could because they were such a pain in the as*s.

LOOK AT WHAT I SAID. I DECIMATED HIS PHONY BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

Be a man. Impeach my work if you can, not my motives.

TRUMP 2012

soggy

UG, concerning your theory about the trojan LIEberals, who reads their comments?

Posted by: M/M | April 26, 2011 at 08:43 PM

I stopped long ago.

jay

Why did he wait so long to realese it? Because this whole Birther issue has been the most assinine stunt in years! If the Gore people kept hounding about the problems from the Florida election this long. The people that have been yelling for Obama's BC would be yelling "you lost. Get over it."
Look at those who still question it.
Look at Trump's he "heard" about Obama's grades.
Obama was at the top group of his class.

"Obama transferred to Columbia University in 1981 from Occidental College, and graduated two years later. He graduated Harvard Law magna cum laude in 1991, after serving as editor of the prestigious Law Review.
This whole birther issue will outlast the Grassy Knoll.Did the US really land on the moon . And, Holocaust denial.
Desperate people do desperate acts.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53694.html#ixzz1KkECebdj
Bush? His dad got him into Yale!

jay

My comments about "you can tell a person anything. Just don't tell them the truth"
This Birther issue is a great example.

Liberator

LMAO. Nice spin by Monica. Had Obama been a Republican President, she would of course now be screaming that he should never have succumbed to the freakish demands of show-boating, "un-American" Democratic demagogues and their MSM henchmen.

Obama's long-form was already previously certified by the Hawaiian Secretary of State (a Republican). So why should he have released his long-form? Plus he knew that releasing it would never satisfy the moronic/lunatic fringe aptly represented here.

gringoman

gringoNOTE: As previously mentioned, serious investigators have always known that the BC is just the tip of the Obama Secrecy Iceberg....The following, BTW, is only a small, very incomplete list of what makes Obama the most secretive President in US history who, as Trump says, "the media is protecting".

NEWSMAX////////But the release of the president’s birth certificate is not likely to silence critics who have called on Obama to release other official documents. The critics — many of whom never bought into birther claims that he was born outside the U.S. — still note a pattern of secrecy surrounding much of Obama’s life before he entered politics.

They note that Obama has never unveiled many key documents that presidential candidates release to the press and public.

For example:
• During the presidential campaign, Obama released just one brief document detailing his personal health, while GOP opponent John McCain released what he said was his complete medical file totaling more than 1,500 pages. The Obama campaign eventually released some routine lab-test results and electrocardiograms for Obama.

• Obama refused to offer his official papers as a state legislator in Illinois and did not produce correspondence, such as letters from lobbyists and other information, from his days in the Illinois State Senate.

• Obama did not release his client list as an attorney or his billing records.

• Obama declined to release his college records from Occidental College, where he studied for two years before transferring to Columbia University.

• Obama’s campaign refused to give Columbia University, where he earned an undergraduate degree in political science, permission to release his transcripts. Such transcripts would list the courses Obama took, and his grades.

• Obama’s college dissertation, reportedly titled “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament,” has disappeared from Columbia’s archives.

• Obama did not agree to the release of his application to the Illinois state bar, which would clear up intermittent allegations that his application to the bar may have been inaccurate.

• Obama has not released records from his time at Harvard Law School.
Ironically, during his campaign for president, Obama promised he would make his White House “the most open and transparent administration in history.”


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