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October 20, 2010

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gringoman

Down with The Evil! Welcome back, Cara Mia!

All is forgiven, including your taking a pass on the lib-intimidated Carl Paladino, who turns out not to be
half the fearless warrior that a Sarah Palin or a Michele Bachmann is. OMG! He listens to The Consultants instead of his own gut.

On to November!

If Republicans don't repeal Obamanationcare, repeal the Republicans!

gringoman

If Republicans don't repeal Obamanationcare, repeal the Republicans!

Posted by: gringoman | October 20, 2010 at 10:36 AM

'Repeal' etc, from Mark Levin. 'Obamanationcare' from gringoVision.

Credit where due.

Ummahgummah

Are you even a FAN of Monica in the first place? Or are you just here to spout your incessant jingoist war against Islam for Israel rhetoric?

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POSTED BY: XBJLLB | OCTOBER 20, 2010 AT 12:39 AM

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Oh I had no idea this was Tiger Beat and only FANS allowed!

Some may think they are FANS when they are really STALKERS.

FYI, I resent having words put in my mouth, especially by crazed conspiracy theorist Hitlery for McAnus voters.

My defense against PISSlam is hardly "jingoist". I am against islam expanding into any of the good countries still left on the planet.

I am also FOR rollback and de-islamification where still possible.

I am AGAINST LIEberals sugar-coating PIGSlam simply because the truth would make their entire LIEberal house of cards collapse.

Because moslems are definitely SAVAGES but nothing noble about them.

Not even Peter O'Toole can change that.

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gringoman

/////former Marine Sean Bielat is giving him a real run, coming within 8-10 points of Frank, forcing Frank to give $200,000 to his own campaign, and provoking Frank's boyfriend to heckle him after one of their debates. Worried? Yes, he is/////

Yes, but even if Barney Frank loses in a stunning upset it will still be something of a pyrrhic victory for Americans and win-win for Libworld and The Purple Hand. How so?

Thanks to a social engineering woman in a black robe, Barney and boyfriend will be able to join the military openly,and check out all the new recruits in the barracks shower.

Any soldier or officer who objects will have the option of leaving the military or facing Court Martial. And who deserves credit for turning the US military over to lawyers and a handful of social engineers in black robes?
The Republicans havc clean hands?

Oh, sure. Just don't mention their Log Cabin Republicans who brought the "civil riights" (i.e. homosexual rights)law suit that is now leading to a homosexualized US military, not to mention the coming law suits that will increasingly confuse, dismay and 'neuterize' the once proud US military.

Thank you, Republicans. You lurk cleverly, and with such "class," while Libworld gets the main credit for this gaying of the military.

Tell us about it, Monica.


xbjllb

"Oh I had no idea this was Tiger Beat and only FANS allowed!" - UG


The answer is "No, I am NOT one of Monica's FANS" hissy whisper-screamed a la Diana Scarwid in "Mommie Dearest".

The answer is "Yes, I AM here to promote my war against Islam for Israel jingoist bullsh*t."

One would naturally assume that most people are here because they respect Monica. As opposed to merely being paid to clutter up her blog with hateful impossible war craptrap.

xbjllb

Here's a real mystery.... why did Gringoman disappear the same time as Monica and reappear the exact same time?

gringoman

While the Dems, Obots and Goopers "fight" it out on whether to proceed quickly or instantly with the Gaying of the United Socialist States of America, JIM SINCLAIR watches China.....

The biggest news today is buried. It is not the .25 basis point rise in China rates. It is China embargoing the US on strategic material.

The Strategic Material War I wrote about in 1983 has been declared today. The United States’ strategic metals and materials stockpile is a joke. It is made up of old science, the wrong things, and is most likely packed and stored incorrectly, therein leading to its downgrade over time.

These items are key ingredients in all advanced weapons systems and high tech devices.

China did the same to Japan over a disagreement. In one day Japan folded.

I imagine there is no one in Washington that even knows what a rare earth item is. They are probably wondering why China would embargo worthless dirt.

LongRifle

Republicans are not our saviors. Their greed and self-serving ways are the reason the Dems got in power in the first place. Are we doomed to ride this political merry-go-round election after election or will a new party that belives in -and follows- the Constitution come forth?
Rein in the activist judicial branch, the EPA, FDA; as well as the laws that throttle down the US but not other countries. Edison could not invent the light bulb, nor Ford the gas engine in the US today. We are done if we don't re-seize the role of world leader in Production.

Ummahgummah

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Gringoman, I think that the X-lax is in a pas-de-trois with Baaahney Fwank and his buttboy.

Here at the Memo, the self-appointed arbiter of fandom is engaged in a very slippery pas-de-TROLL.

I suggest we email in private and have an earnest discussion about implementation of OPERATION PEST CONTROL.

The sewer systems here on the Memo simply can't handle the offal.

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Ummahgummah

Republicans are not our saviors. Their greed and self-serving ways are the reason the Dems got in power in the first place. Are we doomed to ride this political merry-go-round election after election or will a new party that belives in -and follows- the Constitution come forth?
Rein in the activist judicial branch, the EPA, FDA; as well as the laws that throttle down the US but not other countries. Edison could not invent the light bulb, nor Ford the gas engine in the US today. We are done if we don't re-seize the role of world leader in Production.

POSTED BY: LONGRIFLE | OCTOBER 20, 2010 AT 12:29 PM

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I second this one hundred percent.

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Ummahgummah

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Meanwhile, on the other side... union woikas getting SCREWED by BamaCare:

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2010/10/even-union-work.html#comments

Hahaha! Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of filthy special interest voter block!

Elections have consequences, even for DemonRATs. And now WE have to right the ship.

Using the Bama's vernacular: the RATs drove the car into the ditch and are whining because we are about to take the key and PUT THE CAR IN REVERSE, because THAT IS HOW YOU GET OUT OF A DICTH !!!

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Truther

Ask Carly Fiorina, another member of John McCain's political harem, and there is no reason why all our jobs, including government workers, could not be outsourced to China. US workers will just have to compete with peon workers, controlled and subsidized by the state. Carly could add another building to her hilltop estate, and add another bridge over her artificial moat. Doesn't this make her estate seem like a "gos-dacha"? Carly and President Hu Jintao might decide to cut back on laser printer cartridges, and alter satellite-derived terrain maps of China to correct errors.

Ask Carl Rove and his Chamber players from abroad, and they will tell you Carly is sophisticated. But I ask you, where are the corporate leaders that have some sense of nationalism? Can't you care about your country anymore, without being called a Nazi?


Ummahgummah

One would naturally assume that most people are here because they respect Monica. As opposed to merely being paid to clutter up her blog with hateful impossible war craptrap.

POSTED BY: XBJLLB | OCTOBER 20, 2010 AT 11:21 AM

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Now THIS is RICH! Don't ASSume anything, ASSHAT. You know nothing and u ASSume way too much.

As for "respecting Monica", LOL I said before that you wouldn't see yourself even if you looked in the mirror. Let's just say that a conspiracy theory McAnus voter for Hitlery is not what Monica really needs most on her blog.

Only you can be deluded enough to think so!

FYI, Monica loves Booosh a whole lot more than I do and I am certain she wouldn't really appreciate your opinions of him and Cheney either, if she reads her own Memo commenters.

Like I said THIS IS RICH.

I am actually laughing while writing this.

Good G-d!

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Truther

Someone pointed out to me that corporate leaders are not Communists until they have some people executed.

ROB

I don't have enough breadcrumbs to find my way back home after that comment.

Translation anyone?

ROB

Oh and when Peloai finds herself under the bus, she can say hi to her constituents and the rest of America. We're already under that 13 trillion Buck bus.

Obama increased deficit spending more in 22 months than W did in 8 years. We Ned to fire all the Soclialists and Prpgresives now.

gringoman

Gringoman and UG, I took DJ's advice and attempted to find a "different crowd", so I went to the synagogue this evening to view a film about the Italian's who hid Jews during WWII. The film mentioned that the Italians hid Jews because the Jews were there for at least 2500 years and were considered neighbors. They, at least, recognized that the Church did a great deal to help the Jews during WWII.


Posted by: M/M | October 16, 2010 at 09:51 PM


Julius Caesar and the Jews

"Because the Jews backed Julius Caesar on his way to success, he had reciprocated by granting the privilege of a tolerated religion, with the freedom to practice it and maintain independent judicial bodies even outside Palestine. "

Jeremy C. Jackson "No Other Foundation" (Westchester, Illinois: Cornerstone Books, 1980) p. 24

ROB

Sorry for the typos. I'm mobile today and this thing is correcting my spelling. Not very well, either.

gringoman

Gringoman, I think that the X-lax is in a pas-de-trois with Baaahney Fwank and his buttboy.

Here at the Memo, the self-appointed arbiter of fandom is engaged in a very slippery pas-de-TROLL.

I suggest we email in private and have an earnest discussion about implementation of OPERATION PEST CONTROL.

The sewer systems here on the Memo simply can't handle the offal.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | October 20, 2010 at 02:37 PM

Re the Alinskybot-hiding-behind-Jesus-mask:

I'd hold off on 'closed session' at the moment. For one thing, Operation Pest Control needs everyone, or most everyone aboard. There've been some new 'regulars' or semi-regulars in the meantime. Need to confirm that these newbies are down with OPC, unlike Rick the soi-disant Marine who said, in effect, that he wants Alinskybot X excreting here.

xbjllb

"I am actually laughing while writing this." - UG


I'm sure Hitler laughed too when they peeled his skin off.

The first million times.

Truther

Corporate leaders who are willing to outsource and employ Communist ruled and supported peons, in companies owned by a Communist government, will have to decide - will they support the Nation or continue to support Communists? What are you? A Nationalist or Communist? There is a line. Which side are you on?

What bothers me most is the lack of nationalistic spirit in the old Republican guard, even among Vets like McCain who describe America as more like a hub than an actual nation.

A corporate leader related that "we would have lost our business if we had not outsourced. We are nationalists, but were financially coerced into this." Perhaps that is the problem that politicians need to address. If corporate leaders were forced, then why did our national leaders allow this? especially where China is concerned. There was no plan - just a stampede created by China playing the Europeans off the US. Why didn't our leaders act to stop it, and now, why don't they reverse it?

As China puts the squeeze on rare-earth metals, perhaps it is time to stop playing around and do something about this.

Ummahgummah

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What do you mean? I find it hard to believe that China is the only place that has these metals.

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soggy

I agree with Pat Buchanan on this as well. The outsourcing to China has decimated our manufacturing a thousand times more than Mexico ever could.

jay

As that famous billionaire Leona Helmsley once said,"Taxes are for the little guy!"

M/M

YES MONICA, MICHAEL SAVAGE NEEDS NO INTRODUCTION TO YOUR AUDIENCE. WHEN IS MICHAEL GOING TO INVITE YOU ON HIS SHOW? GUARANTEED TO BOOST HIS RATINGS!

(Savage just played his interview with Monica on his show.)

M/M

Savage said about Monica "She is wonderful, cheerful, supportive ...she is GREAT!"

Michael Savage invite Monica Crowley on your show!

Ummahgummah

I'm sure Hitler laughed too when they peeled his skin off.

The first million times.

POSTED BY: XBJLLB | OCTOBER 20, 2010 AT 04:58 PM

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That sounds so.. er.. moslem..

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Ummahgummah

I'm sure Hitler laughed too when they peeled his skin off.

The first million times.

POSTED BY: XBJLLB | OCTOBER 20, 2010 AT 04:58 PM

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Wow. Ol' Adolf must-a had a real weird sense of humor, eh?

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SteveOk

I have a different take on this Speaker thing than you do Monica. First of all if the DEMs maintain control of the House it won't be by much if they maintain control. It won't take but a handful of DEMs to kick her out as I understand the rules. I understand the Republicans vote for Speaker too so the DEMs would need just about a straight Party line vote to elect a Speaker.

If Pelosi runs for Speaker that will put "conservative" DEMs in a pickle. If they would vote for her as Speaker again that would virually doom their re-election bid in 2012. It would be safer for them to vote against Pelosi as Speaker for their re-election bid in 2012. Many would be commiting political suicide voting for her again.

ROB

Truther - got it.

I could not follow your original post because my personal experience has been along the lines you describe. Offshoring, but only as a matter of survival. People felt sick about it, but it was done with afaint hope of reversing it later. If it wasn't done, MORE. Americans would be hurt. I personally never observed a corporate leader who felt good about offshoring, and most times the alternative was worse.

Your question is right on target: How could our national leaders let this happen?

gringoman

Truther - got it.

I could not follow your original post because my personal experience has been along the lines you describe. Offshoring, but only as a matter of survival. People felt sick about it, but it was done with afaint hope of reversing it later. If it wasn't done, MORE. Americans would be hurt. I personally never observed a corporate leader who felt good about offshoring, and most times the alternative was worse.

Your question is right on target: How could our national leaders let this happen?

Posted by: ROB | October 20, 2010 at 09:42 PM

You mean (1) How could they let US corporations become practically the most highly taxed in the world?

(2) Intensely regulated

(3) subjected to exorbitant Big Boss union demands

(4) turning them into welfare agencies with cradle-to-grave paternal responsibility for employees, from healthcare to pensions etc

and then (4) blame them for re-locating in countries without the punitive taxes, without the punitive Union Bosses, without the hundreds of regulations, without the cradle-to-grave?

gringoman

Savage said about Monica "She is wonderful, cheerful, supportive ...she is GREAT!"

Michael Savage invite Monica Crowley on your show!

Posted by: M/M | October 20, 2010 at 07:59 PM

Yes, it bubbled. And Monica demonstrated some independence. She must know that Savage heckles "Corned Beef" and burps at Fox.

Savage said he'll have Monica on whenever she has a book ready.

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Repeal it,G.O.P, or we'll repeal you---Mark Levin,ABC Radio

My man means Obamanationcare.
Do the Goopers hear?---GRINGOBRO

Ummahgummah

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Gringoman has a point there. I heard the Savage interview twice, first on Monica's show on Saturday, then this evening on The Savage NAtion while he was taking a well-deserved break.

Monica is indeed off the plantation, inviting Savage on her show to promote his book, which he claims passed the pinheaded one.

I ever listen or watch Corned Beef because he's got nothing to say that interests me.

Being that Monica is a FOXy Lady she indirectly stuck it to her FOX-mate.

Good on her, I say!

Could a Palladino interview be next [SATURDAY] ??

Does Monica think her audience deserves to her "Krazy Karl" speaking on his own behalf, rather than hearing about him strictly via the ubiquitous boy cumo ads and the libstream media?

That cumo boy sure gots to be mad that CP is forcing him to spend so much money on lies!

I'm sure he thought he could become Governor simply by showing up on the greased skids..

C'mon, Monica.. step over that Beltway shadow and give us the FUTURE GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK, Carl Palladino!!

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Ummahgummah

Make no mistake, let's be absolutely clear, Barack Obama is a nickle ninety eight idiot. From the mind of Obama:

“From the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor….”

“John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.”

“There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.” (Obama was born in 1961 and the Selma march was in 1965)

“I've now been in 57 states, I think, one left to go.”

“….when you spread the wealth around, I think it’s good for everybody.”

“Thank you Sioux City” Obama said in Sioux Falls.

“My father served in World War II, and when he came home, he got the services that he needed.” (At the end of WWII, Obama’s father was 10 years old.)

Obama suggested that we need Arabic translators in Afghanistan, where they don’t speak Arabic.
“Well, Tim, first of all, it's not me who's criticized these proposals,” Obama said to Matt Lauer.

“Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?...I mean, they're charging a lot of money for this stuff,” Obama said to a crowd in Iowa, where there are no Whole Foods.

“Well let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel's.”

“Israel is an ally of ours. It is the most important ally we have in the region, and there is no doubt that we would act forcefully and appropriately on any attack against Iran, nuclear or otherwise.”

“I'm running to be commander of chief on a record of standing up for our wounded warriors.”

"If I talked to Iran, I'm going to tell them, 'You should develop a nuclear weapon...'"

"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian..." (There is no Austrian language).
Posted by: Graycat at October 20, 2010 1:09 PM

"It's not that our liberal friends are ignorant, it's just they know so much that isn't so."

~ Ronald Reagan

Posted by: Gary at October 20, 2010 2:55 PM

USC

No Constitutional Amendment Is Needed to End the Illegal-Alien-Invasion Anchor-Baby-Scam-fraud

Read this and tell everyone you can that the call for a changing of the 14th amendment is not needed to stop-put-an-end to the illegal-alien-anchor-baby-scheme-scam-fraud !!!

Lindsey Graham deceptively says that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution must be amended to tackle the illegal-alien anchor-baby problem.

No constitutional amendment is Needed to End the Anchor-Baby; Scheme-Scam-Fraud-Rip-Off Scandal in the Next Session of Congress

While in Congress Tom Tancredo supported legislation aimed at ending the practice of giving automatic citizenship to children born to parents who are illegal aliens. Those bills never got a hearing or came to a vote, but suddenly there is widespread interest in the topic. What has changed ?

Tom Tancredo is in a toss up election race for Governor in Colorado !!!

The topic is in the news in part because of a report from the Pew Hispanic Center showing that 340,000 anchor babies were born in 2009 and constitute 8 percent of all live births nationally. We have over 4,000,000 anchor babies under the age of 18. Such reports put numbers on a problem that has been festering for decades.

Birthright citizenship is not allowed in Mexico, or in South Africa, France, Germany, Japan or China. In fact, it is allowed almost nowhere except the United States. Yet, Americans are told that ending this practice would be "racist." So, why the sudden interest in the issue by liberals?

Open-borders advocates like South Carolina Sen. "Goober" L1ndsey Graham see the proposal to end birthright citizenship for children of illegal aliens as a bargaining chip to get Republican support for amnesty legislation. That's a bad bargain Americans should reject.

Concerned about the impact of illegal aliens on the United States? Don't miss Tom Tancredo's book, "In Mortal Danger: The Battle for America's Border and Security"

Lindsey Graham mistakenly and misleadingly says that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution must be amended to tackle the anchor-baby problem. He's wrong, and it's a bad idea for several reasons.

Leading constitutional scholars like John Eastman, Dean of the law school at Chapman University, say it's not necessary to amend the 14th Amendment because birthright citizenship for children of foreign nationals is not in the 14th Amendment in the first place.

An honest examination of the legislative history of he 14th Amendment reveals that the authors never intended it to cover foreign nationals. Therefore, amending the Constitution is unnecessary. All we need to do is pass a law clarifying the matter.

Yes, we all understand that such an act of Congress will then be challenged by the ACLU and National Council of La Raza and will be appealed all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. However, it will surprise many people to learn that the Supreme Court has never dealt with this question directly. Only one case late in the 19th century dealt with citizenship of children of immigrants, but that case involved a legal immigrant, not an illegal alien. So, let's pass the law and let the Supreme Court deal with it.

The needed legislation will simply state who is eligible for birthright citizenship, not who is excluded. U.S. citizenship at birth should be awarded only in cases where at least one parent is a citizen or a Legal Permanent Resident. This would end the practice of giving citizenship to children born to tourists, business travelers, foreign students, guest workers and illegal aliens.

A second reason for not going the constitutional-amendment route is that it concedes a false interpretation of the Constitution and the 14th Amendment. A constitutional amendment is a long and arduous process requiring the approval of two-thirds of both houses of Congress and three-quarters of the states. A constitutional amendment is a last resort to be used only if a new law is invalidated by the Supreme Court.

But the best reason for avoiding the constitutional-amendment path is that it is a transparent political trap. Why should anyone support an amnesty bill for the mere prospect of a successful constitutional amendment.

If the proponents of the constitutional-amendment path were serious and honest in their intentions, if they truly believe that the award of birthright citizenship to children born to tourists and illegal aliens

ought to be ended, they would move that proposal forward immediately as sound public policy without a link to amnesty legislation. If the amendment were actually ratified by the states and became part of our Constitution, that could be seen as a good faith gesture to open an honest debate on true immigration reform.

Instead, what we see is a charade in which amnesty proponents pretend to support a constitutional change in order to move their amnesty bill forward. Everyone understands that as soon as an amnesty bill is enacted, the constitutional amendment would be abandoned.

That charade is similar to other bait-and-switch tactics used by amnesty crowd. You want border security? We'll give you improved border security as part of an amnesty package. Of course, achieving border security would take three to five years from the moment we decided to get serious about it, and the undertaking could be sabotaged at any moment by denying the needed annual appropriations.

That is exactly what happened to the Secure Fence Act of 2006. In 2007 the double-layer fence authorized by the Secure Fence Act was defunded and converted into "tactical infrastructure."

We can and should end the anchor-baby scandal in the next session of Congress, but we do not need a constitutional amendment to do that.

Tom Tancredo is a former five-term congressman from Colorado and 2008 candidate for the Republican presidential nomination. He currently serves as chairman of the Rocky Mountain Foundation and co-chairman of TeamAmericaPac.

Tancredo is the author of "In Mortal Danger: The Battle for America's Border and Security."

Stop the illegal-alien-invasion-menace-US-bankruptcy-destruction !!!

Vote out the anti-American, fake-phoney-fraud; leftist-liberal-activist, Communist-Socialist-Marxist-Democrats and the RINO's !!!

Vote for pro-US-Constitution-States-Rights Conservatives !!!

In the Colorado Governors race Tom Tancredo's rising poll #'s now put him in a toss-up with the leftist-liberal-Obamanation-Democrat candidate.

Vote for Tom Tancredo for Colorado Governor !!!

USC

Hezbollah Robocalls for Harry Reid !!! Supplies the Cash Behind Campaign Against Sharron Angle !!!

Yesterday, news broke that Muslim activist Tarek Beydoun of Dearbornistan paid for 250,000 robo-calls to Nevada voters against Sharron Angle, the Republican U.S. Senate candidate who will beat Harry Reid in November if we prevent-block-stop the Democrats from engaging in their trademark voter fraud !!!

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/25361822/detail.html

Beydoun, a recent college grad, in his 20s claims he’s upset with Angle’s comments about Islamic sharia ruling Dearborn. And, in fact, she’s right, as has been documented on this site:

http://www.debbieschlussel.com

more than any other writer or commentator has. But that’s not the scoop here.

The scoop is that Beydoun worked for a Hezbollah-funded newspaper and a Hezbollah charity raided by the FBI and that it’s highly unlikely that Beydoun, himself, has the means to personally fund 250,000 robo-calls against Angle.

Hezbollah Robocalls for Harry Reid !!! Supplies the Cash Behind Campaign Against Sharron Angle !!!

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/27877/exclusive-hezbollah-cash-behind-campaign-calls-against-sharron-angle

USC

Doug Burns, ex federal prosecutor, perpetuates anchor baby myth on Martha MacCallum’s show, FoxNews!

This morning, Oct., 20th, on Martha MacCallum’s show, Doug Burns, a former federal prosecutor was a guest. The subject was in reference to so called “anchor babies“ ( children born to aliens while on American soil) being granted citizenship upon birth, allegedly because the 14th Amendment requires it, and 14 states now drafting legislation designed to put an end to the automatic granting of citizenship to children born to aliens while on American soil.

Mr. Burns alleged the 14th Amendment is very clear regarding automatic citizenship being granted to children born to aliens while on American soil, and he went on to bolster his contention by indicating the United States Supreme Court has repeatedly confirmed its constitutionality.

But the truth is, in IN RE SLAUGHTER-HOUSE CASES, 83 U.S. 36 (1872) the Court states the following regarding the 14th Amendment:

“That its main purpose was to establish the citizenship of the negro can admit of no doubt. The phrase, subject to its jurisdiction' was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States“.

And why would the Court indicate the wording in the 14th Amendment which declares “and subject to its jurisdiction” was intended to exclude from citizenship “children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States“?

The answer is to be found in the Congressional Globe, 39th Congress, which framed and debated the 14th Amendment. For example, in discussing the proposed 14th Amendment, Senator Howard explains the clear intentions of the 14th Amendment as follows:

The first amendment is to section one, declaring that all "persons born in the United States and Subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the States wherein they reside. I do not propose to say anything on that subject except that the question of citizenship has been fully discussed in this body as not to need any further elucidation, in my opinion.

This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States.

This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.

It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.(my emphasis) see: Congressional Globe, 39th Congress (1866) pg. 2890

Later, and after the question was repeatedly asked as to who is and who is not a citizen of the United States, Mr. TRUMBULL responds as follows SEE: page 2893, Congressional Globe, 39th Congress (1866) 1st column halfway down

“The provision is, that “all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.” That means “subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.” . . . “What do we mean by “subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?” Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.”

Mr. Trumbull later emphasizes in crystal clear language that: “It cannot be said of any Indian who owes allegiance, partial allegiance if you please, to some other Government that he is “subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.”

Mr. JOHNSON then rises to say: “…there is no definition in the Constitution as it now stands as to citizenship. Who is a citizen of the United States is an open question….there is no definition as to how citizenship can exist in the United States except through the medium of a citizenship in a State.

“Now, all that this amendment provides is, that all persons born in the United States and not subject to some foreign Power--for that, no doubt, is the meaning of the committee who have brought the matter before us--shall be considered as citizens of the United States.” …he then continues “…the amendment says that citizenship may depend upon birth, and I know of no better way to give rise to citizenship than the fact of birth within the territory of the United States, born of parents who at the time were subject to the authority of the United States.”

And then there is John A. Bingham, chief architect of the 14th Amendments first section who considered the proposed national law on citizenship as “simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen…” Cong. Globe, page 1291(March 9, 1866) middle column half way down.

But getting back to the United States Supreme Court which Burns asserts confirms children born to aliens while on American soil are granted automatic citizenship via the 14th Amendment, let us look at another case, Elk v. Wilkins (1884) in which the Court states:

“Now, I take it that the children of aliens, whose parents have not only not renounced their allegiance to their native country . . . must necessarily remain themselves subject to the same sovereignty as their parents, and cannot, in the nature of things, be, any more than their parents, completely subject to the jurisdiction of such other country.

'This section contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two sources only,-birth and naturalization. The persons declared to be citizens are 'all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof .' The evident meaning of these last words is, not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance”

So, how may a foreign national become subject to the political jurisdiction of the United States so their children born while on American soil becomes a citizen of the United States? Surprise! By our naturalization process which requires an “Oath of Allegiance to the United States” which is taken during naturalization proceedings.

The following is the text of the “Oath Of Allegiance”

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;

that I will support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic;

that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;

that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law;

that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law;

that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and

that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God

By this oath a foreign national becomes “subject to the jurisdiction” of the united States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment and a baby born to such an individual would then be a citizen of the US because its parent not only owes an allegiance to the United States, but is subject to the complete jurisdiction of the United States!

So, why has Doug Burns, a former federal prosecutor, made crap up about the Supreme Court and 14th Amendment while on Martha MacCallum’s show when there is a mountain of evidence which refutes his claims?

Those who reject abiding by the intentions and beliefs under which our Constitution was agree to, as those intentions and beliefs may be documented from historical records, wish to remove the anchor and rudder of our constitutional system so they may then be free to “interpret” the Constitution to mean whatever they wish it to mean.

gringoman

What do you mean? I find it hard to believe that China is the only place that has these metals.

.

Posted by: Ummahgummah | October 20, 2010 at 05:26 PM

You mean that China is not a critically important source, perhaps the principal source of these rare earth materials?

If that is so, I find it even harder to believe that Japan would not know that, and Japan's ignorance would cause it to buckle quickly to China in this matter.

xbjllb

"Wow. Ol' Adolf must-a had a real weird sense of humor, eh?" - UG


You would know, you're so adept at channeling him and his.

xbjllb

"Hezbollah Robocalls for Harry Reid !!!" - USC (aka roboliar)


Oh yeah, THAT preposterous idiocy will get a drunken nutcase racist coat hanger warrior into the Senate.

Keep trying.

xbjllb

@USC: You forgot to add that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi eat live Hispanic babies in secret Mormon ceremonies. And attacked us on 9-11.

gringoman

Progs Who Eat Republicans

PAJAMAS/////In America, the political right seems perpetually mystified by the political left. Republican luminaries view Democrats as they wish them to be rather than how they are. Their confusion is self-imposed as they refuse to acknowledge our adversaries’ bad faith. Despite our president making clear on the campaign trail that his goal was “fundamentally transforming the United States of America,” many conservatives mistook hope for truth. They presupposed Barack Obama would govern as a moderate. They were very wrong. Even dubbing Mr. Obama the second coming of Jimmy Carter is wishful thinking.

The neo-socialists currently in charge of both the legislative and executive branches of government embrace collective salvation and regard the creation of an omnipresent Leviathan as utopia.

With so many fragile egos and infantile desires vested in Barack Obama’s malignant uber-statism, it is not surprising that the left’s leaders have no qualms about squashing and silencing any individual who jeopardizes their version of “progress.”

Who is enemy number one? Certainly, names like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, Ann Coulter, and Sarah Palin readily provoke their mandibular reflex. Yet Representative Anthony Weiner’s recent *itch trial concerning one of the most treasured elements on earth — gold — illustrates that Democrats harbor hate for more than humanity alone.

Rep. Weiner’s motivations are comically transparent. Gold is the nemesis of leftists everywhere. It is the best example of the canary in the coalmine when it comes to the economy. Its surge in value illustrates the futility of the federal government accumulating debt along with the public sector’s takeover of private industry.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/democrats-declare-war-on-gold/

xbjllb

@Gringo:

Thank GOD there's not a single person in the Tea Party who can understand a single word you say.

And won't ever.

USC

Hezbollah Robocalls for Harry Reid !!! Supplies the Cash Behind Campaign Against Sharron Angle !!!

Yesterday, news broke that Muslim activist Tarek Beydoun of Dearbornistan paid for 250,000 robo-calls to Nevada voters against Sharron Angle, the Republican U.S. Senate candidate who will beat Harry Reid in November if we prevent-block-stop the Democrats from engaging in their trademark voter fraud !!!

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/25361822/detail.html

Beydoun, a recent college grad, in his 20s claims he’s upset with Angle’s comments about Islamic sharia ruling Dearborn. And, in fact, she’s right, as has been documented on this site:

http://www.debbieschlussel.com

more than any other writer or commentator has. But that’s not the scoop here.

The scoop is that Beydoun worked for a Hezbollah-funded newspaper and a Hezbollah charity raided by the FBI and that it’s highly unlikely that Beydoun, himself, has the means to personally fund 250,000 robo-calls against Angle.

Hezbollah Robocalls for Harry Reid !!! Supplies the Cash Behind Campaign Against Sharron Angle !!!

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/27877/exclusive-hezbollah-cash-behind-campaign-calls-against-sharron-angle

xbjllb

"Hezbollah Robocalls for Harry Reid !!!" - USC (aka roboliar)


Oh yeah, THAT preposterous idiocy SPAM will get a drunken nutcase racist coat hanger warrior into the Senate.

Keep trying.

You forgot to add that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi eat live Hispanic babies in secret Mormon ceremonies. And attacked us on 9-11 to make Cheney richer.

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