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April 08, 2010

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Ummahgummah

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We KNOW whose side he is on. I assume the question was rhetorical in nature.

A guy who spent years of his life attending a madraza in Indonesia has got to KNOW the hostility expressed there for so-called "infidels". For those who don't know this already: That means US.

But then he sat in the church of Rev. Wrong for TWENTY YEARS and never heard the racism and anti-Americanism shouted from the pulpit there.

HOW STUPID DOES HE THINK WE ARE?!

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Ummahgummah

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Monica, I hope you'll do a piece on the VAT they are planning. Actually this will require constant vigilance, since both the DemonRATs and the Repubs love spending OUR money.

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Jay

He said not against countries that didn't have them. But, countries such as Iran and North Korea are Rogue countries. Should we use Nukes against any country that attacked us? So, lets start using them in Afghanistan and Irag. Let's solve all our problems with Nukes. Personally, I feel that Iran would be stupid to use any that they have. When one of our subs could be close by.

Ilya Shapiro

you guys so ran out of ideas, it is becoming funny. Even if Obama will sign the bill demanding the sun to raise from the East each morning, you'll blame him for pandering to China, or promoting radical left ideas and trying to force the solar energy sources on the world. That behavior meets the definition of paranoia, of course, paranoids are often funny and entertaining people, but it gets tiresome pretty soon...

Dgscol

Although Dynamite/TNT was available in the Civil War, it was not really used until WWI.

soggy

Jay,

Teabaggers are actually people who believe as you do. Tea partiers are those with functioning brains.

xbjllb

Like I said, if Obama wasn't on the side of the US and was on the side of the rest of the planet, the US would already have been glowing black radioactive glass from sea to shining sea.

Obviously the man is on the side of the US, and therefore, against the rest of the world. Not necessarily on the side of the rich fascist GOP US, but the rest of us dying middle class and po' folks US. You know, the ones Reagan started the decimation of and Bush II/Cheney nearly finished off by unregulation.

Unfortunately, that still means on the side of taking over the Middle East to plunder it's opium, oil, and water.

Sorry that smashes your fantasy political game bubble, but what's obvious is blatantly obvious.

P.S. Tea Partiers with functioning brains are rapidly leaving the rest of the bigots and anarchists behind and going back to the ranks of the merely Independent. As fast as possible.

soggy

A year ago I planned to open an Obama worship center. I was being sarcastic and actually offended some folks. A month ago those same folks were ready to oust the POTUS. Today they want him tried for treason. Funny how he can do no wrong according to some of the tired bloggers. Jay says nuke bam bam's friends. Shapiro seems to think bamy is a victim. I say if it walks like a duck......

Ilya Shapiro

Not at all...Doctor can't be a victim of his patients: it goes with the job.

Ummahgummah

you guys so ran out of ideas, it is becoming funny. Even if Obama will sign the bill demanding the sun to raise from the East each morning, you'll blame him for pandering to China, or promoting radical left ideas and trying to force the solar energy sources on the world. That behavior meets the definition of paranoia, of course, paranoids are often funny and entertaining people, but it gets tiresome pretty soon...

POSTED BY: ILYA SHAPIRO | APRIL 08, 2010 AT 01:10 PM

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Glad to hear that. It means you can leave. And don't come back.

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Ummahgummah

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as for the moron who posted that we are "stealing the ME's oil and water and opium", it's hard to even comment on such nonsense.

We buy less of our oil there than many other countries, first of all. Second, they are happy sellers of both oil and whatever opium / heroin they can manage to smuggle into all Western countries.

As for their water which the idiot claims we are "stealing".. LOL.. they got entire deserts filled with it!

LIEberalism truly is a severe mental disorder.

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Miguel de Mexico


WE don't go to Miami except in transit.

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Posted by: Ummah Gummah | April 08, 2010 at 02:26 AM

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Jeez Lee... treat the missus for once and fly down for a change. You can request JOE with Peter Boyle as the inflight movie; or bring your own copy on DVD... or better yet just recite the words from memory to your fellow passengers.

Ilya Shapiro

You have to learn how to face the real world, dear Ummah, and pay less attention to tiny voices in your head.
So I am staying for your own good:)

xbjllb

Get behind Jeb Bush and kiss Obama good-bye. Jeb would lockup every independent in the country. Not to mention the latino vote.

Even I'd vote for Jeb if Obama doesn't have every last troop out of the Mideast like he promised by November of 2012.

And given how I detest the actions and Administrations of his father and brother, that's really saying something.

The only person who could beat Jeb Bush is Hillary Clinton, and I don't think she'll be running at this point.

And the only severe mental disorder around here is Ummah's unrelenting hysterically paranoid Zionism.

Ummahgummah

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Lord have Mercy. Is the webmaster on MM going to let a bunch of looneylibs infest this blog?

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WowZER

THIS WAS WRITTEN IN 1968 42 years ago - Astonishing!

You probably don't remember the name Eric Hoffer.
He was a longshoreman who turned into a philosopher, wrote columns for newspapers and some books.

He was a non-Jewish American social philosopher.
He was born in 1902 and died in 1983, after writing nine books and winning the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

His first book, The True Believer, published in 1951, was widely recognized as a classic.

Eric Hoffer was one of the most influential American philosophers and free thinkers of the 20th Century. His books are still widely read and quoted today. Acclaimed for his thoughts on mass movements and fanaticism, Hoffer was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1983. Hopewell Publications awards the best in independent publishing across a wide range of categories, singling out the most thought provoking titles in books and short prose, on a yearly basis in honor of Eric Hoffer.

Here is one of his columns from 1968 -- 42 years ago! Some things never change!
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ISRAEL'S PECULIAR POSITION...by Eric Hoffer – Los Angeles Times26/5/1968.

The Jews are a peculiar people: things permitted to other nations are forbidden to the Jews.

Other nations drive out thousands, even millions of people and there is no refugee problem. Russia did it, Poland and Czechoslovakia did it.

Turkey threw out a million Greeks and Algeria a million Frenchman.

Indonesia threw out heaven knows how many Chinese and no one says a word about refugees.

But in the case of Israel , the displaced Arabs have become eternal refugees.

Everyone insists that Israel must take back every single one.

Arnold Toynbee calls the displacement of the Arabs an atrocity greater than any committed by the Nazis.

Other nations when victorious on the battlefield dictate peace terms.

But when Israel is victorious, it must sue for peace.

Everyone expects the Jews to be the only real Christians in this world.

Other nations, when they are defeated, survive and recover but should Israel be defeated it would be destroyed.

Had Nasser triumphed last June [1967], he would have wiped Israel off the map, and no one would have lifted a finger to save the Jews.

No commitment to the Jews by any government, including our own, is worth the paper it is written on.

There is a cry of outrage all over the world when people die in Vietnam or when two Blacks are executed in Rhodesia .

But, when Hitler slaughtered Jews no one demonstrated against him.

The Swedes, who were ready to break off diplomatic relations with America because of what we did in Vietnam , did not let out a peep when Hitler was slaughtering Jews.

They sent Hitler choice iron ore, and ball bearings, and serviced his troops in Norway .

The Jews are alone in the world.

If Israel survives, it will be solely because of Jewish efforts. And Jewish resources.

Yet at this moment, Israel is our only reliable and unconditional ally.

We can rely more on Israel than Israel can rely on us.

And one has only to imagine what would have happened last summer [1967] had the Arabs and their Russian backers won the war, to realize how vital the survival of Israel is to America and the West in general.

I have a premonition that will not leave me; as it goes with Israel so will it go with all of us.

Should Israel perish, the Holocaust will be upon us all.

Ummahgummah

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Good to see someone intelligent and morally upstanding write here for a change! Good to see you, Wowzer and I agree 100% !!

Here's an open letter form Diana West to the mayor of Monschau, Germany who declared that the freedom fighter Geert Wilders isn't welcome in her town:

http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/1319/Dear-Mayor-of-Monschau.aspx

Basically she is telling the mayor that the sacrifice her father made in liberating the town from the Nazis wasn't worth it because the mayor is subject to an anti-freedom totalitarian ideology.

I should add that who's this mayor to speak for every single person in that town? I'm sure they didn't all vote for this cretin.

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DJ

"A year ago I planned to open an Obama worship center." ( --soggybritches)

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ROFL!

That's a brilliant idea, Soggy! I suggest it be located in the Darfur Region of Sudan, or Somalia, or Detroit.... We can even provide the BO worshipers a free ONE-WAY NO-RETURN ticket there -- complimentary kool aide will be served at the center, of course.

Ummahgummah

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DJ, the Obama Worship Center is the black moon stone at Mecca. Once a year the paganist worshippers of O'Ba'alma congregate there by the millions, often stampeding one another to death by the hundreds at a time.

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Jay

"Jay,

Teabaggers are actually people who believe as you do. Tea partiers are those with functioning brains."
About the tea partiers. Doubt that, sure haven't seen it.

"Jay says nuke bam bam's friends"
Didn't say that either. I said why nuke those who don't have that capability?

"Lord have Mercy. Is the webmaster on MM going to let a bunch of looneylibs infest this blog?"
Guess some can only take their own views. Maybe we should let those with a single thought have the option of expressing their views.
Am believing in more what Ilya said earlier. And, others, have this what I called McCarthiests earlier. That, ONLY THEIR thoughts COUNT. Everyone else is the enemy. And, should live the country. Such as those comments about the Denver airline passenger. People commented on how only Obama would let him go. When the facts were that he was a Diplomat with Diplomatic immunity. And, if you didn't like that. Then, change the system. But, by doing so. You would change not only how foreign diplomats are treated in this country. But, how ours are treated in other countries. Never seen so many closed minds. Which is why they never learn anything.

soggy

Jay,
For really closed minds try moveon.org, they will be more sympathetic to your brilliant posts.

Ummahgummah

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LOL

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Ummahgummah

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I don't understand why libs keep whining that they're not appreciated on CONSERVATIVE blogs, where at least they are allowed to post all over the place when the lib blogs won't even let you publish an opinion that runs counter to theirs.

Ps. It's called "McCarthyist" just FYI. The Jayhadist seems to love butchering the English tongue. Or he's really that dumb, as evidenced by the content of his drivel on this blog.

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Ummahgummah

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Jayhadist, besides moron.org there's also Huffblo, Little Green Footballs and plenty of other lib blogs that you can go to where you will be appreciated for your wit and your insightful comments.

Why stay here where you're just not appreciated as you should be by people of similar brilliance as yourself?

Believe me, we get plenty of libpinion shoved down our throats, be it via TV or the general media out there.

For us to avoid undue exposure to LIEberalism we would need our won country, run by CONSERVATIVES.

And even then, it wouldn't be long before the libs would demand to move in with us so they could leech once again since they can't really run things without anyone left to pay for all their insanity.

You can see ample evidence of that where libs have ruined a virtual goldmine like California and now are moving to other states, bringing their LIEberalism and their high tax demands with them.

Native Floridians for example, despise Northerners for just that reason. South Florida has been turning into a cesspool ever since the libs got a foothold in that state.

Even formerly Conservative North Carolina has been hit hard with a bad case of LIEberalism, leaving only its sister-in-name to the south relatively untouched, were it not for the intolerable libRINO Lindsey Grahamnesty.

They do have a few people like for example Sue Myrick who have their hearts and minds in the right spot.

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Ummahgummah

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Here's some suggested reading for libs:

http://www.zionistmall.com/emporium/holocaust.htm

The consequences of what you are looking to do to this country and the world at large are outlined in some of those tomes.

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soggy

"Jay says nuke bam bam's friends"
Didn't say that either. I said why nuke those who don't have that capability?

You nuke the bastards if they use something as heinous as a biological weapon that has just decimated three million Americans. I don't give a squat whether they have nukes or not. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your strategy sucks.

Jay

"Jay,
For really closed minds try moveon.org, they will be more sympathetic to your brilliant posts."
Soggybritches and Ummah. As I will always say. You want a world where everyone thinks as you do. For those who don't. Then, woe is them. Sounds like WW2 Germany.
"Ps. It's called "McCarthyist" just FYI. The Jayhadist seems to love butchering the English tongue. Or he's really that dumb, as evidenced by the content of his drivel on this blog."Was wondering if you would catch it. Am not dumb. Said that both sides have severe issues. The dumb ones are those who think one-sided. Since their minds are always closed. Several people on this website let people think their minds. While some, the only minds who count are their own.

soggy

Several people on this website let people think their minds. While some, the only minds who count are their own.- Jay

Are you talking to yourself, about yourself? It's all circular man. Dig?

Jay

"Several people on this website let people think their minds. While some, the only minds who count are their own.- Jay

Are you talking to yourself, about yourself? It's all circular man. Dig?"
I'm not the one who is telling people to move on. As in someone we know? It never bothered me if you and Ummah expressed your comments.
While others, let people express their thoughts. As long as it agrees with theirs.
You can say all you want about what you said. But, the facts don't jibe with it.

Ummah Gummah

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Here's a fitting display arrangement for the Bama's book, ghost written by Bill Ayers:

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=20991

Here's a funny comment someone posted to the pic:

$1.99?
No, we will pay much, much more for the dreams of his father.
And our children and grandchildren will pay as well.

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Ummah Gummah

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SOGGYBRITCHES, that jayhadist been smokin' sum whacky sticks!

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Silence in Numbers

For nuclear deterrence to succeed, a threatening nation has to be capable and willing to use its nuclear weapons and must effectively communicate this to the nation that is to be deterred.

First, a deterrent force must be capable to inflict unacceptable damage, or more precisely the threatening nation has to be capable to exact payments (at a cost acceptable to itself) either by denying the opponent to achieve the objectives, by charging the opponent an excessive price for achieving it, or by a combination of the two. A nation has also to guarantee the safety of its nuclear arsenal. There must be no way for the opponent to eliminate the deterrent capability of the threatening nation. Strategists call this "second strike capability," that is the retaliatory force should be protected from destruction through a first strike. A second strike capability can be ascertained not only by technical means but also through policy means. Second, the threatening nation must have the plans and the readiness necessary to demonstrate that it can deliver on its "message." Conveying willingness to use retaliatory nuclear forces creates a dilemma: The threatening nation must show willingness to engage in a war it tries to deter or prevent. Is there a point at which the threatening nation deters itself? Third, the threatening nation must successfully communicate to the opponent the price it will have to pay for attempting to achieve an
unacceptable objective. For the United States conveyance of the deterrent message had two aspects: Deterrence had to address opponent as well as friend. The opponent had to believe in deterrence, and deterrence had to reassure U.S. allies in Europe. Reassurance and deterrence were two sides of the same nuclear coin. For much of the Cold War, deterrence and reassurance complemented each other. Fourth, and most important, the deterrent message must have some degree of credibility. Both nations must believe that there is a real probability that the threatening nation will indeed perform the promised action, if required.

In summary, the components of nuclear deterrence have a physical and a psychological character. On the physical level, deterrence requires a series of military instruments, sufficient to threaten the opponent in a way that it would not even think of attacking. Successful deterrence is guaranteed, however, only if the will is there to use these weapons. Deterrence is credible only if a nation is able to successfully convey the first two points to it's opponent, that it is capable and willing. In other words, successful deterrence depends on psychological components: communication and perception.

Jay

As I said, you can tell a person anything. Just don't tell them the truth. Never thought that a white person whose family came from Europe would be called a Jayhadist!I thought the name UMMAH was along muslim lines.

M/M

Here's a fitting display arrangement for the Bama's book, ghost written by Bill Ayers:

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=20991

Here's a funny comment someone posted to the pic:

$1.99?
No, we will pay much, much more for the dreams of his father.
And our children and grandchildren will pay as well..

Posted by: Ummah Gummah | April 08, 2010 at 07:29 PM

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ROFLMAO

Silence in Numbers

We distinguish between two forms of deterrence: core, or passive deterrence and extended, or active deterrence. Core, or passive deterrence is the threat with a nuclear-strategic response in case of a nuclear attack on the home territory of the threatening nation. Extended, or active deterrence threatens with a nuclear-strategic response in case of a nuclear attack on the territory or troops of allies. Extended deterrence is called "active" because it involves a clear decision and the willful act on the part of the nation that owns the nuclear weapons. Because of its political connotations, "active" was the term preferred by U.S. allies in Europe during the Cold War. U.S. policy-makers preferred the term "extended deterrence," which is rather vague. The choice in words, however, hinted at the political dilemma nuclear deterrence created for the United States. In case of a nuclear exchange, would the U.S. sacrifice New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles for Paris, London, and Berlin?

Silence in Numbers

It appears that all world leaders agree that a nuclear war cannot be won. Nevertheless, nuclear weapons research and weapons modernization continue, and so does the proliferation and use of nuclear and ballistic technology. North Korea , Iraq, Iran , India and Pakistan are good examples that military planners have not given up the quest for acquiring a nuclear capability. At least they seem to prepare for the case that deterrence fails. Should deterrence fail a nation might want to have more nuclear weapons at its disposal than are needed for deterrence to succeed.

Silence in Numbers

The Democrats seem to be basically nicer people, but they have demonstrated time and again that they have the management skills of celery. They're the kind of people who'd stop to help you change a flat, but would somehow manage to set your car on fire. I would be reluctant to entrust them with a Cuisinart, let alone the economy. The Republicans, on the other hand, would know how to fix your tire, but they wouldn't bother to stop because they'd want to be on time for Ugly Pants Night at the country club.

Silence in Numbers

The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.

Silence in Numbers

Most liberals never lost sight of the potential for evil in big government. They have consistently opposed government power in matters of personal and political belief. Liberals are not unconcerned with economic liberty, but they have come to believe that the common good requires that social justice be given a higher priority than absolute economic freedom. Conservatives are—and always have been—on the other side of both questions. They are much more prone than liberals to limiting personal and political liberties, but they place the freedom of an individual to do as he pleases in the economic realm at the top of their concerns. Social justice has held a lower priority for conservatives, from the days of Alexander Hamilton when they favored strong government as a means of protecting their economic privileges to the days of Ronald Reagan when they see government as an instrument of social justice and therefore a threat to their economic position.

Silence in Numbers

Liberalism is trust of the people, tempered by prudence; conservatism, distrust of people, tempered by fear.

Ummah Gummah

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SIN, please define the term "social justice" for us.

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Silence in Numbers

UG...you want the text book definition, or the unambigous one?

I'll type slowly so you can understand: social justice means that ALL peoples, despite race, nationality, sex, religion, political views, sexual orientation, intelligence, etc. are treated equally...like it or not.

Dgscol

Michelle Bachmann, and possibly Sarah Palin have decided that it is best now, to let the Tea Party slide into nonexistence prior to the elections. Some Republicans have said they created the Tea Party, just to give people an outlet for their anger - so they would not rebel against the measures our politicians willingly took.

Okay, so now the Tea Party is nonexistent, right?

Dgscol

I used to think like SIN, which is quite idealistic. But in real terms, no one in his right mind would think that way. It is like saying that being married to one woman is as good as being married to any other woman. But that is not actually right, is it?

Jay

That's not what SIN said. What he said was that no one is BETTER than someone else.

Dgscol

If you need to solve a differential equation to save the world, is one person the same as anyone else?

Dgscol

What is the same - anyone who gets into a voting booth and then has their vote properly counted in the US, gets one vote. That goes for illegal aliens as well as everyone else.

You are not another person complaining about Skakel, are you? He was a good boy, just a little high spirited.

xbjllb

"Should Israel perish, the Holocaust will be upon us all." - Wowzer


So move to a place where you're not surrounded by enemies and have TONS of very successful friends in some very high places. Tens of millions of empty foreclosed houses in the US (some in very nice neighborhoods near synagogues) and you have to live in the only place in the world where you're hated for your imperialist fascism?

Enough with the suicidal idiocy. You can join the country club now. Sheesh.

Dgscol

If Democrats believed in justice, they would have made David Paterson a judge.

Silence in Numbers

And now comes the inevitable political scapegoating...

Chairman Michael Steele
Republican National Committee
310 First Street, SE
Washington, D. C. 20003

Dear Michael,
I have prayed for you and hurt with you these last few weeks. I thank you for the passion you have brought to the job of leading our party, which is one of the reasons I have been a strong supporter of you during my tenure as Chairman of the North Carolina Republican Party. Some of the criticism directed at you has been deserved, some of it hasn't, but no one could criticize you for lack of effort or enthusiasm. This is not about finding fault or assigning blame. That's beside the point. The point is to deal with the reality of a situation that is becoming increasingly untenable. Without going into a lot of detail about the situation we find ourselves in, I offer my personal opinion that the best way for you to deal with the reality of the situation is to tender your resignation as Chairman of the Republican National Committee. I neither arrived at this conclusion lightly nor derive any pleasure from articulating it to you.
I think it’s important for you to understand this is not about you personally. Or me. It’s bigger than both of us. It’s about providing the kind of leadership that our party and country needs right now. More than ever, America needs the Republican Party to be a force for reform, transparency, and ethics in government. If we are going to be an effective agent for reform in America, we must first reform our party. Leadership requires nothing less, especially the kind of leadership that our country needs right now. Recent events, regardless of who is to blame, have made it difficult if not impossible for you to lead the party in the direction that it needs to go. Sometimes service requires personal sacrifice and leadership always requires putting the interest of the cause we serve ahead of our own.
I believe that the best service you can render to your party at this critical juncture is to graciously step aside and allow the party to move on from this current quagmire. It will best move forward under new leadership.
I believe that we will have some measure of success this fall no matter what the RNC does or does not do. But in order to maximize our opportunities this year, we need a strong, effective RNC that has the full faith and confidence of the conservative activists, volunteers and our donors. I can attest that many grassroots leaders I’ve talked to in the last few weeks are very aware of the recurring drama that is playing out at the RNC – allegations of fiscal irresponsibility, management and questionable activities – and they are disgruntled and concerned that the RNC, under your direction, is setting a poor example of the kind of leadership voters can expect if Republicans are elected.

Again, this is not a personal indictment of you; rather it is a candid observation of where we are and where we need to go. As Republicans, we must pull together and restore our reputation as the party that stands for important things -- and isn’t willing to compromise on those important things. I respectfully disagree with statements attributed to you and others that this is only about winning elections. It is not. It is about demonstrating that we have the ability to govern well when we win. We have a higher responsibility to our party and our fellow Americans than just winning elections. Among other things, that means we must set an example, a noble example, about what government should be about and about how it should go about the business of representing the best interests of all Americans. If, and only if, we do that well, the winning of elections will take care of itself and we will be confident and at peace in the outcome.

I know that many share this view, but are fearful of repercussions if they speak out, and are worried about making matters worse with public in-fighting. It is my view that failing to make this change is the more dangerous course.

Please consider giving the Party you serve the ability to bind its wounds, restore our activists’ confidence and enhance the future of our nation.
Respectfully yours,
Tom Fetzer

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