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Let's hope that Jay-lib understands and got the message.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 23, 2010 at 09:04 PM
In business schools people are taught :
Markets cleanse themselves. Therefore there is no fraud in finance, and criminal charges are unnecessary.
--- so when fraud occurs on a massive scale, the answer is to let it fail, as Monica has supported. So why did they bailout out the fraudsters? The answer is because the entire capital economic web depended on it. It cannot allowed to fail, therefore free markets are impossible, and the idea being taught in business school, is an error. For large capital systems, you must have regulation, and bring fraud charges when necessary, the sooner the better.
If the Bush Admin was the experiment, then it has been demonstrated that deregulation rapidly leads to systemic fraud and economic collapse. So when Bush placed Cox into the SEC, and the Fed held back and did not intervene, and Congress acted to rescind former legal restraints, they were supporting the "deregulation" model, that has proved to undermine the graces that a more sedate, proper capitalistic system can provide.
Posted by: Dgscol | April 23, 2010 at 10:52 PM
UG(h), you have NO message.
A call to wipe out a third of humanity is not only impossible, it's foolishly stupid. All you accomplish is more blood money for warmongers.
That's all you are. A fearmonger, a warmonger, and a bsmonger. Someone who has fallen to the level of their sworn enemy and even below that.
I wish it were otherwise. I wish you were still human.
Posted by: xbjllb | April 23, 2010 at 10:58 PM
Markets do not cleanse themselves. Capitalism, left to its own ends, without regulation of any kind, becomes fascism. Always.
The only thing that keeps fascism (control of government by business) at bay is stiff and ever vigilant regulation. And that is not socialism (control of business by government) either.
There is a perfect balance, and when it is struck and found and HELD TO for a length of time, capitalism enjoys its greatest flourishing.
We found the balance after the Great Depression, and it led to the 1960's and the largest middle class. Where one job's salary was able to provide a fine house, car, and everything a family needed, including a mother in the home, should she so choose.
That all ended beginning with Nixon and Ford, accelerated greatly under Reagan, and the final nail in unbridled fascist capitalism's coffin was the Bush II years.
We need to return all regulation to the 30's and 40's if we want to ever regain the 1960's. And end all wars of choice and imperialism to secure control of other countries natural resources. And keep our troops home to protect us here. And secure the borders HERE.
And THAT, happens to be TRUE conservatism.
Posted by: xbjllb | April 23, 2010 at 11:10 PM
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As you can see above the libs keep insinuating things we say or propose which in fact we haven't.
Just liek the Tea Party is violent when in fact it was libs liek Bill Ayers the Weather Underground and the FALN and the Black Panthers who were ACTUALLY violent.
Right now the sort of people who got violent in Seattle and at the Republican Convention in New York are hardly Tea Party types.
And yet they keep spreading their lies.
LIEberals.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 23, 2010 at 11:14 PM
I just saw "Katyn". Everyone should see that movie to see life under Communism. We can't let our freedoms slip away.
Posted by: M/M | April 23, 2010 at 11:17 PM
While sailing on the good ship Warrior Princess, let us not forget to toast other examplars of American womanhood when called for. I cite one at the moment. A U.S. Ambassador who, while attending to a large reception, did not hesitate to help out with a suddenly "ïnjured" guest. The guest had taken momentary leave of chat with Madame Ambassador and a few others in order to refill his wine glass, which she agreed had need of it. The ensuing 'incident' was the fault, not of the wine, but of the glass i.e the 'invisible' glass panel, which the guest, intent on returning to the Ambassador, inadvertently (stupidly?)walked right into, with a thud heard round the salon.
This is to hail a fine lady, a credit to her nation, who didn't hesitate to join the immediate attendance on the bleeding gringoman. His head was laid back on sofa, nose quickly bandaged, he was given neosporin tablets (by a young lovely) and a unique experience of American aid abroad. We hail. A toast, a toast.
Posted by: gringoman | April 23, 2010 at 11:24 PM
I am not sure I agree that all Republicans are Facists. I was the one who pointed out the Socialists as the real Facists, and they were historically, as were the NAZIs. If the OBAMAites became nationalists, they would come fairly close. We do not have a First Lady of the US, we have the First Lady against the US, however. A stinky situation.
The Right is prone to lawlessness because of their desire for non-restraint, rather than the Facist ideas of totalitarianism - which can become similar to a protection racket. A proper Left ought to curb the extra exuberance of the Right, and vice versa.
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Private public partnerships (PPPs) were supported by Republicans, because it would allow the government to get business into functions of government, for the betterment of its function, and its economy. Instead, it has led to more bloat.
What is interesting, the Democrats have latched onto PPPs, as a socialist outreach from the government into business that operates to carry out the governments socialists programs- take ACORN as a prime example.
Are PPPs just a bad idea? Or should government-business connections just be less formal? I think lots of PPPs are a bad idea because they are poorly controlled. It is often not clear whose agenda is being carried out - a program for the business, or a function of the government. They become entities in and of themselves, supported off the public weal.
Posted by: Dgscol | April 23, 2010 at 11:48 PM
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Private public partnerships (PPPs) are a terrible idea. Just look at "n"pr and PablumBS.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 23, 2010 at 11:57 PM
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In the case of business PPPs are breeding grounds of corruption.
In the case of broadcasting PPPs are breeding grounds of propaganda.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 24, 2010 at 12:08 AM
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PablumBS and "n"pr are prime examples of propaganda.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are prime examples of mismanagement and corruption.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 24, 2010 at 12:10 AM
"As you can see above the libs keep insinuating things we say or propose which in fact we haven't." - UG(h)
You got a Tea Party mouse in your pocket or something?
UG(h), you are ALL OVER this blog for years calling for retaliatory jihad against all of Islam. You have toned it down lately as you've gone "Tea Party" in a big way, I'll grant you that, but you have two options in this life. You either find a way to make peace with your enemies, or you tear each other apart. Or, in your view as the "chosen", you wipe out your enemies to the last man, woman, and child blowing themselves up against your occupation as you would if the situation were reversed. IF you'd thought of it first under Nazism. IF you had, you wouldn't have needed US.
Genocide is simply not an option for America. Neither is fascism.
If you insist on those paths, emigrate to Israel where those truly dead end paths will get you nowhere, and quick, and are not only welcome, but de rigeur.
Posted by: xbjllb | April 24, 2010 at 01:34 AM
"I am not sure I agree that all Republicans are Fascists." - Truther
I am not saying or even implying that. What I said is the GOP are the greatest evil, because they have MORE fascists and fascist and fascism enablers in their ranks than any other party.
Warrior Princess is not a fascist. Neither is Pat Buchanan, nor Ron Paul. Nor many others. Tony Blankley, duh, which is why Warrior Princess replaced him on McLaughlin. The problem is, the GOP party leadership in Congress ARE fascists, as are the unfortunate majority of GOP congressmen and women.
Politics is the art of carefully ferreting out and choosing and even sometimes fighting for the lesser evil, for only the lesser evil is redeemable. The greater evil is far to reactionary in a negative way against the good of the lesser evil to ever be redeemed.
The real magic and wonder of this system of government that the Founding Fathers set up, is that when fascism or monarchy occurred, as they knew it would rear its ugly head sooner or later, it would be defeated by the various checks and balances and by an overwhelming faith in the REAL majority of the American People to always wake up in time and stop it, as they did in 2008, and as they will in 2010.
Each GOP administration takes the US further into fascism, but each Democratic administration pulls America back from the brink. Unfortunately, this one seems none too intent on ending America's number one economic problem; the black hole of unnecessary Mideast war.
Posted by: xbjllb | April 24, 2010 at 01:46 AM
There is also a fallacy that BIGNESS and NONREGULATION go together - sure they do, if you want CHAOS and PAIN.
Even large dinosaurs had three brains.
Posted by: Dgscol | April 24, 2010 at 02:34 AM
If the Bush Admin was the experiment, then it has been demonstrated that deregulation rapidly leads to systemic fraud and economic collapse. So when Bush placed Cox into the SEC, and the Fed held back and did not intervene, and Congress acted to rescind former legal restraints, they were supporting the "deregulation" model, that has proved to undermine the graces that a more sedate, proper capitalistic system can provide.
POSTED BY: TRUTHER | APRIL 23, 2010 AT 10:52 PM
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If the Bush Administration is the experiment, it shows how laws and more regulation DO NOT protect us when they are not enforced. Instead of regulating the markets as the SEC is mandated to do, the employees seemed to be more interested in watching pornography on our tax dollar. How many companies do you know of that allow their employees to surf the web and watch pornography during work hours? Human resources ALWAYS warns employees that their is a zero tolerance policy for this behavior and employees who test them are shown the door.
This is just like our immigration laws that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT refuses to enforce. Ordinary citizens are being terrorized by gangs but no one cares about THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS. No one cares about the CIVIL RIGHTS of the rancher who was killed on HIS OWN PROPERTY by an illegal alien or the police officers who are executed and BEHEADED on the border by illegal alien gangs.
How are more laws the answer when NO ONE seems to enforce our existing laws?
Posted by: M/M | April 24, 2010 at 06:39 AM
Obama fiddles like Nero. If I were there, I would enforce the law. Just give me some marines working in the FBI. We would get the slime off the streets and corruption out of the government. Make my Day. ;-| Where is the Commander and Chief? Is he still reading government docs to figure out what he is supposed to be doing?
There are probably Christian militia members willing to help Obama out, enforcing the Constitution, and our laws if he wants to use them, rather than persecuting them.
There was a Russian Czar Peter III, who played with little toy soldiers. He liked to dress up in uniforms, and march around. But he fainted at the sight of blood. Someone killed him mercifully in his sleep.
Posted by: Dgscol | April 24, 2010 at 08:19 AM
AZ is doing the right thing. It would be good for other states to do similarly. It is their fundamental right to expect proper border enforcement. It is like your skin, without it you rapidly become diseased and die. Why is out government treating us this cruelly, leaving us umemployed, with no border enforcement?
These states should deputize anyone who wants to go SW and join the movement to stop border infringement, and rid the states of illegals. Then they should charge the government for this, and take it to court if necessary.
Posted by: Dgscol | April 24, 2010 at 08:48 AM
NANTES, France (AP) - A woman driver wearing an Islamic face veil has been fined by French police for not having a clear field of vision. The fine was small, but it garnered big attention Friday and may illustrate what is to come as the president pushes to outlaw the veils nationwide.
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On campus, there had been all these Islamic students following people around with bags over their heads - both female and also little guys. They spook people and harass them, hoping to obtain jobs. It should be outlawed.
Posted by: Dgscol | April 24, 2010 at 08:53 AM
There was a guy wearing a burka, that held up a bank.
Posted by: Dgscol | April 24, 2010 at 09:04 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vBfoDAPj3Ek/StD2WwxA5SI/AAAAAAAAA_w/VEXlOa1cKmU/s400/burqa-clad-muslim-women_246.jpg
Would you want these people to enter your store, possibly with C4?
Posted by: Dgscol | April 24, 2010 at 09:09 AM
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Sssssshhh.. Truther, you're not allowed to say that. Lest you be accused of horrible atrocities by some roving lib or other.
Don't speak out against their Sacred Cows.. no matter how many of US they murder. No matter whom they kill around the globe. They are the Chosen.
The Chosen People of the libs.
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Posted by: Ummah Gummah the lib destroyah! | April 24, 2010 at 09:53 AM
AZ might be doing the right thing legally, ethically, and morally; unfortunately, all it will accomplish is sending hispanics in droves, BOTH illegal and legal, to California, Nevada, and New Mexico. And a tourist city like Las Vegas can never be forced to do the same and patrol the strip and the vast surrounding environs with tubby southern sheriffs demanding papers from anyone dressed like crap in a tan. Have you ever BEEN to Las Vegas?
A wall, manned by US troops breathing HERE, instead of dying in the Mideast for nothing, and paid for by all the money pissed away to contractors in foreign lands, is a far better and permanent and NATIONAL solution.
Arizona's final "solution" to their, and only THEIR immigration problem, is a big "ef you" to surrounding states and does NOTHING to halt or even deter illegal immigration. It is the height of selfishness and may well create greater "states rights" losses in the long run.
No, make that absolutely WILL cause greater "states rights" challenges and losses.
Arizona has a problem, to be sure; but you don't fix your problems by burning down your neighbors' houses.
Posted by: xbjllb | April 24, 2010 at 09:58 AM
"The Chosen People of the libs." - UG(h)
UG(h), I'm telling you for the last time. This is the US. We treat everyone the same here, UNLESS they commit a crime. Even AIPAC, which takes billions we give its fascist country in foreign aid and buys OUR politicians with it.
You don't like it, MOVE to any Nazi place where people and the government there DOESN'T treat everyone the same.
You have your pick of several, but one in particular would welcome you and your views with open arms.
Posted by: xbjllb | April 24, 2010 at 10:03 AM
Obama is doing exactly what his politically-correct-globalist-corporate-bosses are wanting him to do, that is:
1)Effectively erase the border with Mexico. Allow masses illegal immigration. This provides CHEAP labor for unscrupulous business owners in the unskilled and semi-skilled job categories thus depressing wages and or causing unemployment for legal American citizens.
2)Increase legal immigration (we already import 1.3 million per year, high unemployment notwithstanding). Increase HB1 visas to high-skilled and professionals. This provides a CHEAP workforce thereby depressing the wages or causing unemployment of high-skilled and professionals whom are legal American citizens.
3) Continue massive immigration until whites make-up a small percentage of the overall U.S.A.'s population.
4)Raid the Treasury and distribute the money to all the fat-cats that put him and all the corrupt bought and paid for politicians -- both Democrat and Republican -- in power.
5)Reduce the military's strength down to that of China.
6)Hobble the innovative spirit of the Scientists working for NASA.
7)Pass Cap and Trade. This won't hurt the profits of energy companies. They will sell less product at a higher price to us, the consumer, without penalty. Look for your gas and electric bill to double.
8)Reduce the quality of heath-care. After all, why should a bunch of "privileged" white Americans enjoy a first-class heath-care system when the rest of the non-white world suffers? This "white privilege" can't continue according to the Left.
I could go on and on but the bottom-line is: The U.S.A. is systematically and deliberately being dismantled and blended into the third-world.
Posted by: DJ | April 24, 2010 at 10:21 AM
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DJ, I am afraid I have reached the same gloomy conclusion as you have. And all we have is to stand against this a decrepid, semi-dysfunctional GOP.
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Posted by: Ummah Gummah the lib destroyah! | April 24, 2010 at 10:33 AM
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Since Monica doesn't believe in banning even the worst of the worst bots I'd like to suggest an IGNORE button where the individual user can simply choose not to view the "input" - some might say outflow LOL - of certain unwanted parties stinking up the joint.
Maybe I need to run the ida past the people at TypePad.
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Posted by: Ummah Gummah the lib destroyah! | April 24, 2010 at 10:36 AM
AGREE!
"the bottom-line is: The U.S.A. is systematically and deliberately being dismantled and blended into the third-world."
When Soviet Premier Nakita K. banged his shoe at the U.N. in New York proclaiming "We will bury you", we have seen evidence daily for the last 40 years that he knew what he was talking about.
The interviewed caller, Jimmy, in this link gives the convincing case to support the above
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TU4zHscys8
It all makes sense now - deballing the military by expanding government control through ownership and/or regulation over Healthcare, Wall Street, the auto industry, the banks, the student loan industry, the environment - whatever moves the USA closer to bankruptcy and less jobs ......
And the propagandists and their abettors have put us all to sleep thinking WE wond the cold war so that our lowered defences combined with the brainwashing program in our colleges, schools, and mainstream media of our youth have made the process gradual so most won't notice the change until it's too late.
Posted by: WowZER | April 24, 2010 at 10:39 AM
THE (Russian) BEAR IS BACK
Poland's tragedy, Russia's gain
By ARTHUR HERMAN
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/the_bear_is_back_29sbM8G9YLgjZLsfJbElYK
Posted by: WowZER | April 24, 2010 at 10:51 AM
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M/M, where did you see "Katyn" if I may ask?
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Posted by: Ummah Gummah the lib destroyah! | April 24, 2010 at 11:12 AM
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I think I'm gonna claim an additional tax refund in the amount of between $ 13,800 and $58,000.
From Moonbattery.org:
NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION NEEDS A BIGGER BUDGET TO INVESTIGATE PORN SURFING AMONGST ITS RANKS
The budget request doesn't state the nature or number of the misconduct cases, but records obtained by The Times through the Freedom of Information Act laid bare the extent of the well-publicized porn problem inside the government-backed foundation.
For instance, one senior executive spent at least 331 days looking at pornography on his government computer and chatting online with nude or partially clad women without being detected, the records show.
When finally caught, the NSF official retired. He even offered, among other explanations, a humanitarian defense, suggesting that he frequented the porn sites to provide a living to the poor overseas women. Investigators put the cost to taxpayers of the senior official's porn surfing at between $13,800 and about $58,000.
"He explained that these young women are from poor countries and need to make money to help their parents and this site helps them do that," investigators wrote in a memo.
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Yup, a true LIEberal, helping out those young women from poor countries!
LOL
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 24, 2010 at 11:21 AM
Suspension of flights had been because of Russia, not the volcano. The crash of the Polish airliner, caused Poland to close off its airspace, and Russia sent flights over Scotland, creating serious tension in the region.
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Russia_flexes_muscles_in_Western_airspace_999.html
This might have prompted the Pentagon to brush off some old plans for space based weapon systems.
Posted by: Dgscol | April 24, 2010 at 11:33 AM
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Hero licensed gun owner saves a busload of people:
http://www.khou.com/news/LIVE-VIDEO-Police-investigate-shooting-multiple-car-wreck-91655614.html
How long until the busjacker finds a scumbag lawyer to sue the hero who saved a busload of people from this drug addict?
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 24, 2010 at 11:52 AM
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Truther, I dont see the connection between Russian fighters which were intercepted by the RAF and the closure of European airspace.
The Russians have been playing cat and mouse for some time now and the airspace was never closed before.
I do agree that the volcano thing was bullsh*t.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 24, 2010 at 12:25 PM
I have also heard that the Russians might have used an airborne chemical laser to shoot down the Polish airliner.
I am not sure if I believe that one. It could be propaganda. I am not sure if such a weapon would leave an impress on the downed plane.
Poland started the closure of airspace because of its downed plane.
Posted by: Dgscol | April 24, 2010 at 01:39 PM
Monica looked devastatingly beautiful last night.
Posted by: Prospector | April 24, 2010 at 01:42 PM
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Truther, the Russians were responsible for the MAINTENANCE of that plane!
They don't need a laser to crash a plane that their technicians are doing all the maintenance work on.
What astonishes me is that Poland didn't use their own people for the upkeep of their plane.
As a member of the EU I would think they'd have gotten a deal on an Airbus or two.
All of which begs the question: What kind of a security apparatus does Poland have?
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 24, 2010 at 02:00 PM
AZ is doing the right thing. It would be good for other states to do similarly... These states should deputize anyone who wants to go SW and join the movement to stop border infringement, and rid the states of illegals. Then they should charge the government for this, and take it to court if necessary.
Posted by: Truther | April 24, 2010 at 08:48 AM
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Russell Pearce ,the author of Arizona’s new police state law, is seen in this video with the same Neo-Nazi racists who rallied in Downtown Los Angeles last week. He openly associates with members of the National Socialist Movement and on his website he proudly lists known racists as his supporters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsHi6_l1XzA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi9izfNXxzo
Posted by: thorn66 | April 24, 2010 at 02:53 PM
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The real Nazis are u libs who want to flood this country with *ILLEGAL* ALIENS.
The real Nazis are u libs who NEVER talk about Imams Wright, Jackson and Sharpton.
Only a self-hating Jew would remain silent about these guys. Or Anti-Semites, of course.
They're definitely getting an easy ride based on the color of their skin.
IMHO these guys are Nazi prototypes. They use PC to spread their hate and disenfranchise others.
Same as what the Nazis did. Only they took stuff by force.
PC guys are much slicker than having to resort to those crude methods.
And that much more deadly in their efficiency.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 24, 2010 at 03:28 PM
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Anyone who loves ILLEGAL aliens so much is urged to move to Mexico, where those among them who have no prior record are still legal.
LIEberals love to shove the underclasses they are importing in the faces of those who'd rather be left ALONE and do for themselves.
These illegals are nothing but pawns in the hands of the iNazis.
iNazi = I.nter N.ational Z.ozi.alist
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 24, 2010 at 03:31 PM
"Russell Pearce ,the author of Arizona’s new police state law, is seen in this video with the same Neo-Nazi racists who rallied in Downtown Los Angeles last week. He openly associates with members of the National Socialist Movement and on his website he proudly lists known racists as his supporters."
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Well there you have it. Since Russell Pearce was seen at the same rally where Neo-Nazis attended, plus he has "racists" who support him, then ipso facto the AZ Law is racist and anyone who supports or enforces the Law is racist. Thanks for clearing that up for us.
Unfreakinbelievable!
Posted by: DJ | April 24, 2010 at 03:32 PM
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Oh by the way, I did not mean to say that the above-mentioned imams Sharpton Jackson and Wright only hate Jews.
They hate all white people, regardless of background or religion.
Juts to clear that up.
I find it ironic that these libs come in here screaming "nazi nazi" when in fact most everyone here supports Israel, which any real Nazi worth his salt would not be caught DEAD doing.
Furthermore all the Israel-hating moonbats also hate the USA, and there are some very FUNNY and some DISGUSTING photos on Zombietime, since so many of these moonbats seem to congregate in San Fran Sicko these days.
Which explains how Nazi Peloser got elected in the first place :-)
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 24, 2010 at 04:06 PM
M/M, where did you see "Katyn" if I may ask?
POSTED BY: UMMAH GUMMAH THE LIB DESTROYAH! | APRIL 24, 2010 AT 11:12 AM
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At my local Polish Community Center. We are now trying to get PBS to air it. One thing I learned from the movie was that the wives of Polish officers and their children were sent to labor camps just because of their relationship to Polish P.O.Ws.
Posted by: M/M | April 24, 2010 at 06:42 PM
"And all we have is to stand against this a decrepid, semi-dysfunctional GOP." - UG(h)
The GOP is what got the US here in the first place, UG(h). In the past FIFTY years, the GOP has been in charge in the white House for 28 years; the Democrats for 24. Factor in who had complete control of Congress during the various administrations, and you find that the GOP got us 90% of the way here.
Deregulation is what got us here. Open borders and globalism and offsourcing are what got us here. Fighting unwinnable never-ending Mideast wars against a TACTIC, for Israel's security and not our own are what got us here.
The GOP is in the tank for Big Business including Big Offense, and will never ever do anything to rock their boat.
The Democrats aren't that much better, but they're all we've got as a lesser evil.
Posted by: xbjllb | April 24, 2010 at 06:47 PM
"The mother of a 13 year old rape victim says the legal system is bending over backwards to protect the two illegal aliens accused in the crime, at her daughter's expense."
http://illegalaliensrunningamuk.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-year-old-greeley-colorado-girl-raped.html
Posted by: M/M | April 24, 2010 at 06:49 PM
"ICE agents arrested 27 child predators and criminal alien sex offenders. Among those arrested were: an illegal alien from Guatemala convicted of Sexual Abuse in the First Degree of a 7-year-old; an illegal alien from El Salvador convicted of Sexual Abuse in the First Degree of a 10-year-old; an illegal alien from Ecuador convicted of Sexual Abuse in the First Degree of a 6-year-old; an illegal alien from El Salvador convicted of Sexual Abuse in the First Degree of a 9-year-old; an illegal alien from Honduras convicted of Rape in the Second Degree of a 12-year-old. ICE, March 2, 2005, ICE Arrests 27 Sexual Predators In Suffolk County"
http://www.predatoryaliens.com/html/news/news05a.htm
Posted by: M/M | April 24, 2010 at 06:51 PM
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M/M, they better NOT arrest these illegal ALIENS or they might be in violation of their civil rights!
What a STEAMIN' LOADA SHYTE!!
They're putting ILLEGAL ALIENS OVER AMERICANS!!
And once they've pulled of SHAMNESTY they'll have the future vote sewn up forever and we will have been disenfranchised for good.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 24, 2010 at 06:53 PM
"The gang members ran and grabbed Elizabeth and pulled her down the incline, off of the tracks. Testimony showed that Jenny had gotten free and could have run away but returned to Elizabeth when she cried out for Jenny to help her.
For the next hour or so, these beautiful, innocent young girls were subjected to the most brutal gang rapes that most of the investigating officers had ever encountered. The confessions of the gang members that were used at trial indicated that there was never less than 2 men on each of the girls at any one time and that the girls were repeatedly raped orally, anally and vaginally for the entire hour. One of the gang members later said during the brag session that by the time he got to one of the girls, "she was loose and sloppy." One of the boys boasted of having 'virgin blood' on him.
The 14-year-old juvenile later testified that he had gone back and forth between his brother and Peter Cantu since they were the only ones there that he really knew and kept urging them to leave. He said he was told repeatedly by Peter Cantu to "get some". He raped Jennifer and was later sentenced to 40 years for aggravated sexual assault, which was the maximum sentence for a juvenile.
When the rapes finally ended, the horror was not over. The gang members took Jenny and Elizabeth from the clearing into a wooded area, leaving the juvenile behind, saying he was "too little to watch". Jenny was strangled with the belt of Sean O'Brien, with two murderers pulling, one on each side, until the belt broke. Part of the belt was left at the murder scene, the rest was found in O'Brien's home. After the belt broke, the killers used her own shoelaces to finish their job. Medellin later complained that "the bitch wouldn't die" and that it would have been "easier with a gun". Elizabeth was also strangled with her shoelaces, after crying and begging the gang members not to kill them; bargaining, offering to give them her phone number so they could get together again.
The medical examiner testified that Elizabeth's two front teeth were knocked out of her brutalized mouth before she died and that two of Jennifer's ribs were broken after she had died. Testimony showed that the girls' bodies were kicked and their necks were stomped on after the strangulations in order to "make sure that they were really dead."
The juvenile pled guilty to his charge and his sentence will be reviewed when he turns 18, at which time he could be released. The other five were tried for capital murder in Harris County, Texas, convicted and sentenced to death. I attended all five trials with the Ertmans and know too well the awful things that they and the Penas had to hear and see in the course of seeing Justice served for their girls."
http://www.murdervictims.com/voices/jeneliz.html
Posted by: M/M | April 24, 2010 at 06:58 PM
"Obama is doing exactly what his politically-correct-globalist-corporate-bosses are wanting him to do..." - DJ
I essentially agree with you completely with a few slight differences:
"5)Reduce the military's strength down to that of China."
That might be the globalist plan, but it will and can never happen. Not without a complete Mideast pullout first.
Which isn't happening. Furthermore, the military-industrial complex has its fingers in every state in the union representing millions of jobs. Congress will never do your #5.
"6)Hobble the innovative spirit of the Scientists working for NASA."
That's about the militarization of space. The military as already taken over all of space and doesn't want NASA poking around finding all the weapons platforms. They've decided that NASA is a security threat full of potential leaks.
That's why NASA is slowly being hamstrung. Blame the military, Black ops, and black budgets for space platform warfare.
"8)Reduce the quality of heath-care. After all, why should a bunch of "privileged" white Americans enjoy a first-class heath-care system when the rest of the non-white world suffers? This "white privilege" can't continue according to the Left."
First of all, I happen to be white, happen to be a very successful professional, and have never in my life had any health care after Navy dependency.
So your assertion that the US has the best health care in the world is ridiculous.
Not all white people even have health care. There is an enormous service industry of private business contractors (not military contractors) who have no health care whatsoever. Temps, secretaries, accountants, lawyers, musicians, millions of people. Some can afford their own insurance; most cannot.
The last thing health care in this country is about is race. The VERY last thing.
And just above that, and even still at the very bottom of the list, is wealth or the lack thereof.
Bottom line: people without health care, no matter their race or wealth, cost the system more when they don't get any preventive care and end up dying on the public's dime.
Health care is about providing preventative care for all, so those extra out-of-nowhere end-of-life costs no longer overwhelm the system.
Posted by: xbjllb | April 24, 2010 at 07:04 PM
Wowzer, thanks for finding Jimmy from Brooklyn for us. I heard Savage trying to find him, but I had no idea Jimmy called in.
Posted by: M/M | April 24, 2010 at 07:09 PM
""The gang members ran and grabbed Elizabeth and pulled her down the incline," - M/M
We need a wall, manned by US troops, ASAP. All else is bullsh*it.
I've said this time and time and time again.
Posted by: xbjllb | April 24, 2010 at 07:15 PM