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April 16, 2010

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Ummah Gummah the lib destroyah!

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I swear I'm gonna be balder than Marc Levin soon the way these libs drive me nuts and make me pull my hair out.

They're definitely teaching anything BUT logical thinking in these schools!

The sensei system they used to have in Japan is much better than hiring a permanent teacher caste who are basically slacker type people who can't run a regular business or do real work.

So of course they hate achievers and they hate people who have more money than they make, which is practically everyone, including the janitor at the school they teach at.

Should they get more? HELL NO! They take more vacations than anyone, get great health care and have generous pensions. All this for indoctrinating our kids and turning their minds into softee touchy-feely LIEberal mush.

God I could PUKE.

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Ummah Gummah the lib destroyah!

Will add that there are crooks on both sides. Look at the financial institutions that sold houses to people they knew couldn't afford it. They did that so they could as one said, "Get their money and get out." Then, they would pass the bad paper to others.About PBS, The Mclaughlin Group is on PBS.
Now, Golden sachs is being investigated.

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You're obviously a product of our wonderful school system. FYI: It's GOLDMAN SACHS. They should be investigated.

But so should Presidents that pardon members of FALN and give pardons to campaign contributors like Frank Rich. Oh I forgot.. it's not Frank who gave the money, it was his wife.

The McLaughlin Group may be on PBS but so are loads of LIEberal things. Meanwhile there isn't a SINGLE Conservative program on there. EVER.

I also pay for the privilege.

As for the "evil" corporations that sold homes to the people who couldn't afford it, this really goes back to Al Sharpton Jesse Jackson and groups like ACORN blackmailing the banks and wheedling the politicians into making the banks give loans to iffy borrowers.

The did not do that because they wanted to. The clever tricks of dumping the bad mortgages were invented later.

Necessity being the mother of invention.. Bankstas may be cold, but they ain't stupid.

They didn't create the situation, they just found a way out of a bad situation that they'd been forced into by our spineless lawmakers.

So say Thank You for that one to the "Civil Rights Whining Complex".


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Ummah Gummah the lib destroyah!

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Ooopsss.. I meant "Civil Rights Whining Industrial Complex"

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Ummah Gummah the lib destroyah!

I do watch the McLaughlin Group. Not saying any party is perfect. Bush gave tax breaks to the rich. As I mentioned before. Obama said he would tax the top 5%. McCain spoke of redistribution of wealth. So, he was talking to the top 5%.For anyone here who needs Social Security or will need for at least part of their income. Then, thank the Dems. The Republicans fought against it. Once again, not saying that one side is 100% for or against the common folks. But, the Dems do more. The Republicans just want to get reelected. That's all they talk about. NOvember, November.

POSTED BY: JAY | APRIL 16, 2010 AT 08:55 PM

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OK School's in session again. Bush gave tax breaks to EVERYONE who pays taxes! Across the board. Since nearly half of us don't pay any, it's easy to whip up a frenzy about lowering taxes on the idiots who still pay them!

LOL

Whatever McCain did or didn't speak of that don't impress me much. I thought he was a terrible choice for GOP candidate and I think it's safe to say, so do most of my Tea Party friends.

WE always resented the LIEberal middling at the time, which greatly aided in his selection. They even went so far as to vote for him in droves in the Primaries.

So do NOT use anything that McCain says as something that means anything to me. IMHO he's in the wrong party and the sooner he crawls across the aisle - and STAYS there- the better for the GOP!

It's none of my business really but I am a good guy and I do wish you'd gather and organize your thoughts a little before posting. A little more fluidity would go a long way to showing a little independent reasoning ability and that you actually know what you are talking about, rather than reflexively repeating stuff that's been kicked around in the mainstream media.

Try setting up a premise or two and then using them to make a logical conclusion. That's how you make a reasoned argument that people can follow, thus possibly even convincing them to see things your way.

Unfortunately, the greatest drawback of thinking logically is that it tends to make you more conservative.

And there's no remedy for that.

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M/M

Gringoman first turned me on to this story. The Polish leaders were on their way to honor the victims of this massacre when their plane crashed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6pfczwJAbE&feature=player_embedded

Gringoman said they weakened the country by taking out their soldiers (and the intelligentsia).

thorn66

Ummah- just a few end-of-the week reactions to some of your recent posts UG:

1. You flippantly dismiss any data generated by the likes of PBS, NPR, WaPO, NYTimes; yet you never challenge the simplistic platitudes quoted here from the Moonie Times, tabloid NY Post, psychotic WND, or DJ's favorite white supremacist source...AmRen. You are obviously an intellectual, so I feel you can afford to be more balanced and honest.

2. Your rhetorical stance regarding "liberals" hating America is dangerous and beneath you. Neither you or I can always assume we are in a righteous position to judge who is or isn't patriotic. Many of my relatives enlisted and died in uniform to protect our Constitutional freedoms and I've defended American values and political decisions to lunatics on the left and right across the globe. So maybe let's not be so glib with our pre-judgments.

3. Yeah, our education system is rotten. It is arcane and underfunded. Blame the unions, libs, intellectuals if you like...but at the same time I can't believe you are really comfortable with the anti-intellectual tendencies of folks like Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman. They are both fundamentalist Creationists who believe the world was generated ten thousand years ago; with dinosaurs and kids roaming the planet together. Are these the type of leaders who can really help revive our education system and prepare the United States to compete in a global economy? I know "winning" is important to you, but is it worth the cost of a bleak Orwellian future?

4. I read your platform. You can do sooo much better bro. I look forward to future iterations. (How about adding a position that all new cars driven in the U.S. need to average 50mpg. within the next five years...I think the price and impact of everyone having to drive Toyotas is well worth the result of not depending on Arab oil. At this point, it is a national security issue.

gringoman

Gringoman first turned me on to this story. The Polish leaders were on their way to honor the victims of this massacre when their plane crashed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6pfczwJAbE&feature=player_embedded

Gringoman said they weakened the country by taking out their soldiers (and the intelligentsia).

Posted by: M/M | April 16, 2010 at 10:59 PM

M/M,

That was then, this is now. You won't hear me equating Russians with angels, but for the recent conspiracy buffs, I need an answer to the following: How did the Russians get the Poles to put so much of their entire national leadership on one plane---and to a memorial for the single most disturbing event in Pole-Russian relations, and coordinate it with violent weather conditions?

M/M

M/M,

That was then, this is now. You won't hear me equating Russians with angels, but for the recent conspiracy buffs, I need an answer to the following: How did the Russians get the Poles to put so much of their entire national leadership on one plane---and to a memorial for the single most disturbing event in Pole-Russian relations, and coordinate it with violent weather conditions?

POSTED BY: GRINGOMAN | APRIL 17, 2010 AT 03:55 AM
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Gringoman, if you go back into the archives on this blog, you will see that I was one of the first ones who wondered why all the Polish leaders were on one plane. I know we are used to Obama and the Left telling us how evil Americans are and apologizing for everything we have ever done, but I would like to put out that over half the people who initially posted comments about the Polish plane crash initially suspected Putin. In the not so distant past, planes have had a habit of crashing over Russia and people have been poisoned. If that plane had crashed over France, I don't think people who have initially blamed Sarkozy.

Pilot error and a STUPID decision to put so many important people on one plane does not change the fact that the Polish people are in mourning, and that the the people on that plane should be honored.

I haven't had a chance to learn about some of the other people on that plane, but some of the people who died on it were: an American artist, people who fought Communism and a General who fought brilliantly in Afghanistan.

I can't finish this because I have to get ready for my Tea Party.

M/M

M/M,

That was then, this is now. You won't hear me equating Russians with angels, but for the recent conspiracy buffs, I need an answer to the following: How did the Russians get the Poles to put so much of their entire national leadership on one plane---and to a memorial for the single most disturbing event in Pole-Russian relations, and coordinate it with violent weather conditions?

POSTED BY: GRINGOMAN | APRIL 17, 2010 AT 03:55 AM
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How did America elect a Marxist government who is enslaving us by driving us into debt and taking over our healthcare? Don't have time to research what is going on with NASA because I'm sure I won't find the answer on the state run media.

WowZER

THE BEAR IS BACK!

By ARTHUR HERMAN

Last Updated: 10:11 AM, April 13, 2010

Posted: 1:28 AM, April 13, 2010

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/the_bear_is_back_29sbM8G9YLgjZLsfJbElYK

The plane crash that killed Poland's president and 95 others is a tragedy for the Polish people and a loss of a good friend for the United States. For Poland's neighbor Russia, however, it's an opportunity to push for hegemony over Eastern Europe, as in the Iron Curtain days.

For the Russian bear is back. Like Dracula rising from his coffin, it now stalks the world long after we thought it dead and buried. And President Obama's feckless handling of foreign affairs is giving Russia's authoritarian leadership a chance like no other to expand its power -- and steadily diminish ours.

Some will believe the Russian account of the crash, that the Polish pilot deliberately endangered the lives of his president and the entire upper echelon of his country's leadership by trying to land in a thick fog despite repeated warnings from Russian ground control.

Others won't believe -- remembering that President Lech Kaczynski was a bitter foe of Russia's Vladimir Putin, and how Putin's dreaded FSB (the KGB's successor) was linked six years ago to a plot to poison Ukraine's president.

Either way, expect new, perhaps irresistible, pressure on Poland to toe the Kremlin line. Throw in the START treaty that Russia extracted from our president just last week, and anyone who imagined we won the Cold War had better think again.

Americans watched the Soviet Union implode in 1990, and saw Russia reduced to a national basket case. Her former empire splintered into 15 independent republics, from the Ukraine and Georgia to Kyrgyzstan. Her once-mighty army, navy and nuclear arsenal split the same way.

American policymakers simply wrote Russia off as a country without a present, and no clear hope for the future. Soviet experts like Condoleezza Rice, once the heavyweights of every Washington think tank, scrambled to find other work.

They should have realized that a country rich in resources from oil and natural gas to iron, gold and diamonds wouldn't stay poor for long -- and that a nation with a long history of aggressive imperial expansion wouldn't rest easy at having shrunk to a size smaller than when Peter the Great became czar.

In 2000, Russians elected Putin president. As rising oil prices began to fill Russia's coffers, he promised to restore Russia's pride and power -- with the price soon revealed as the end of her 10-year chaotic experiment with democratic freedom.

Putin the ex-KGB agent had learned a valuable lesson buried in the ashes of defeat: Communism had held back the Soviet Union. When it came to intimidating Russia's European neighbors as well as her own people, the cold, naked exercise of power for power's sake worked far better -- especially when the United States insisted on looking the other way.

So, for 10 years, America sat by while Putin massacred the Chechens, murdered dissident journalists and jailed Russia's leading industrialists while installing his cronies in their place.

We sat by while Putin tripled Russia's defense budget, helped Iran build and equip its nuclear reactor at Bushehr and sent the mullahs advanced missile systems and nuclear-sensitive technologies.

The US did nothing, for Rice and others insisted that nothing interfere with our effort to get Russia to endorse UN sanctions against Iran -- a country the Russians were helping to arm.

Finally, in the summer of 2008, the brutal Russian incursion into independent Georgia made the Bush administration change its mind about Putin. But then came a US election, and a new foreign-policy team. Far from learning from Bush's mistakes, Obama is now determined to compound them.

The first step was abandoning our democratic Eastern European allies, including Poland, that had defied Putin by agreeing to host US missile-defense systems in their countries: Obama dropped the plan because it offended the Russians. This was followed a week ago by the START treaty that locks us into permanent nuclear decline while Russia is free to modernize its nukes and even build its own missile-defense shield.

And the very day the treaty was signed came the coup against the government of Kyrgyzstan, which is a vital air-supply line to our troops in Afghanistan. Like the crash that killed Kaczynski, this eliminated a leader who had defied the Kremlin over a US base in his nation.

What's next? Putin and his puppet president, Dmitry Medvedev, now say they won't support any gasoline boycott against Iran -- the one sanction that might halt the Iranian nuclear program as it comes into the final turn.

We won't know the truth about this weekend's crash until the plane's "black box" flight recorder is safely out of Russian hands. But we already know the truth about Putin. People laughed when Bush said he'd looked into Putin's soul and saw a good man. Obama has looked at Putin's bloodstained hands and sees a leader we can deal with.

Arthur Herman's most recent book is "Gandhi and Churchill."

M/M

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0410/Polish_leaders_killed.html

DJ

"[Y]ou flippantly dismiss any data generated by the likes of PBS, NPR, WaPO, NYTimes; yet you never challenge the simplistic platitudes quoted here from the Moonie Times, tabloid NY Post, psychotic WND, or DJ's favorite white supremacist source...AmRen.

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Yeah, our education system is rotten. It is arcane and underfunded. Blame the unions, libs, intellectuals if you like...

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Well, Thorn, since you bring up the sad state of education, AmRen and DJ in the same post, here's a little reward for you. Savor it:

http://amren.com/ar/2009/07/index.html#cover

BTW, Schools that are predominantly white, East-Asian, or a combination of the two are doing pretty well these days.

Ummahgummah

Thorn66 writes some concise points which are full of the usual liberal faibles follies and fallacies. Since this is directed at moi, I shall respond. [Why do I feel like I am the Conservative Answer Lady here]

But then, a LIEberal mind is a terrible thing. And it is my duty to help.

May this aid in the process of undoing some of the damage that comes from what's being taught in our schools and the lies that are subtly spread throughout our media with a firmness that suggests that they are facts.

Which they are NOT.

But there's much here to respond to right here so let me stay on point:

1. You flippantly dismiss any data generated by the likes of PBS, NPR, WaPO, NYTimes; yet you never challenge the simplistic platitudes quoted here from the Moonie Times, tabloid NY Post, psychotic WND, or DJ's favorite white supremacist source...AmRen. You are obviously an intellectual, so I feel you can afford to be more balanced and honest.


It's more that I dismiss their CONCLUSIONS than their data. And their many egregious OMISSIONS of data that I object to. When I do dismiss their data it's because said data is evidently faulty. Can you say "Global Warming"?

Sorry if I am not familiar with the Moonie Times, but your favorite NY paper, the Duranty Times, famously downplayed the threat posed by the Nazis, including the atrocities they committed. They suppressed "data" they were actually aware of.

And they do so now as pertains to islam.

At all our peril, by the way.

I wasn't aware of the "simplistic platitudes" of the NY Post. All I know it' the paper for those who neither have the limousine, the leisure nor the big apartment to unfold the fish-wrapper Duranty.

I, for one, am happy to see the NYPOST publish the large-scale photos they have produced of the various islamic fiends who have recently been menacing the City.

Whereas the Duranty obliviously lives in a parallel universe where islam is truly at peace with the rest of the world.

Sadly, loads of libs and our entire present government also live in that universe.
And thus, we are all held hostage to their fantasies.

AT. OUR. PERIL.

Meanwhile Bill Clinton is worried about Tea Partiers. He who attacked Christian Serbia to aid in establishing moslem states in the heart of Europe.

Great WORK, Bill! No wonder they pay you $5 MILLION a speech in Dubai! Hey, and they seem to have gotten Hitlery in the package too, as evidenced by her recently displayed hostility toward Israel.

I don't know last time I quoted from AmRen, being that I am hardly aware of what it is.

I don't think that anyone who fails to notice the racism of the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and a slew of others has the right to bash a poster on the Memo as "white-supremacist" as soon as said poster dares to post facts and raise issues which are considered "inflammatory" by liberals.

It's exactly this taboo-ization of inconvenient facts and issues that WE resent so much about the likes of PBS, NPR and the lamestream-at-large.

I think DJ brings up a lot of valid points that need to be talked about. They won't go away by imposing a mandate of silence on them.


2. Your rhetorical stance regarding "liberals" hating America is dangerous and beneath you. Neither you or I can always assume we are in a righteous position to judge who is or isn't patriotic. Many of my relatives enlisted and died in uniform to protect our Constitutional freedoms and I've defended American values and political decisions to lunatics on the left and right across the globe. So maybe let's not be so glib with our pre-judgments.


Well, and how is that MY fault? Rev. "God D*mn America" Wright is a liberal, is he not? "KKK America" "White man's greed is a world in need" etc.

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are liberals. do I need to once again break down all the hate that has spewed from these two over the years?!

"Prof" Ward Churchill who called the inhabitants of the WTC on 9/11 "little Eichmanns" and openly gloated abotu the attack is a liberal.

I HARDLY CALL HIM A PATRIOT, would YOU?

And then there is "prof" Kambon who openly and publicly exhorted his audience to "exterminate whitey". I guess the New Black Panther Party might call such utterances "patriotic". If a white "professor" had said the same about blacks it would have been all over our twisted lamestream, but this oine was glossed over in TRUE LIEberal fashion!!

Libs lso don't seem to care about all the terrorist training camps RIGHT HERE IN THE USA, but they are Sooooo worried about some inept militia guys in Michigan!

Why? Because they are white and Christian. THAT's why. But ISLAMIC JIHADISTS ARE WELCOME AND PROTECTED BY LIBERALS!!!

And then there is Bill AYERS, terrorist-at-large and friend-of-the-Bama. Another True-Blue Patriot and America-lover!

The rogues' gallery continues... in case you don't have enough already :-)
I think we have made the point that liberals HATE AMERICA!


3. Yeah, our education system is rotten. It is arcane and underfunded. Blame the unions, libs, intellectuals if you like...but at the same time I can't believe you are really comfortable with the anti-intellectual tendencies of folks like Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman. They are both fundamentalist Creationists who believe the world was generated ten thousand years ago; with dinosaurs and kids roaming the planet together. Are these the type of leaders who can really help revive our education system and prepare the United States to compete in a global economy? I know "winning" is important to you, but is it worth the cost of a bleak Orwellian future?


Glad we can agree on something, namely our dysfunctional eduMACadtional system. I wonder if we also agree on what should be done to fix it. But that's too much for this little reply. I am quite ready to get into it in detail anytime though.

A far as Sarah Palin, who is doing her very best recently to prove her critics right, she is blinded by the limelight, getting on Oprah and so on, which if she had any backbone she would have refused.

She also should have refused to campaign John McLoser after he dissed her so publicly after HE lost the election for US!

Don't try to convolute her with Michelle Bachmann, which is a common liberal trick. Associating people who don't really need to be associated. AND YET WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ASSOCIATE THE BAMA WITH BILL AYERS AND REV WRIGHT??!!!
He sat TWENTY YEARS in the G*D D*MN CHURCH OF THAT AMERICA-HATING CREEP!
All of America knew what Bill Ayers was and that is who he chose to launch his "career" with?!

Patriots! Patriots all of them right?!


4. I read your platform. You can do sooo much better bro. I look forward to future iterations. (How about adding a position that all new cars driven in the U.S. need to average 50mpg. within the next five years...I think the price and impact of everyone having to drive Toyotas is well worth the result of not depending on Arab oil. At this point, it is a national security issue.


Whoever is running needs to use vehicle MPG as a bargaining chip. Meaning if Congress opens up drilling and domestic oil production then MPG-efficient vehicles can be on the table.

BUT NOT BEFORE THEN - ONLY AFTER.

Oh, and pray tell, why is it a national security issue? DO tell :-) Could it have to do with the i-word?

In closing I will say that you or anyone else is free to discuss any of the platform points I raised. I am eager to hear additional ones, as I am sure I left plenty of things out.

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Ummahgummah

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Oh I forgot something. I knew I did.

Thorn speaks of an "Orwellian future". Oh boy, this one is SO intercepted!

Dude, we've been LIVING an Orwellian PRESENT ever since the Eighties when POLITICAL CORRECTNESS first spilled over from academia into the mainstream, where it has since metastasized.

PC is basically taboo-izing of certain topics. PC means lying about what one really thinks. PC means hiring those one might prefer not to hire. PC also means calling Al Sharpton a "civil rights leader"

FEH!

PC means having to sit by and witness the repeated attempts at mainstreaming of Louis FarraKKKlan on PBS.

I mean they had like hour-long specials on the guy!

IN. CROY. ABLE!

PC means giving victim status the islam while vilifying the "crusades" which were in truth a DEFENSIVE measure by Europeans who were sick and tired of islamic pirates raiding the European coastlines for slaves and the constant belligerence of islam toward the Continent and her populations.

PC means pretending that any other culture is better than our own.

PC means to have to hear our OWN President proclaim that "islam is a religion of Peace" as he stood amidst the still-smoking embers of the World Trade Center!!!!

PC means calling terrorists "militants" or "enemy combatants".

PC means calling the Koran the "holy qu'rran" or whatever they try to call it in the media nowadays.

It all MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH.

PC means captured Somali pirates getting asylum in the countries whose ships they attacked!

EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US HERE KNOWS COUNTLESS MORE INSTANCES OF PC!!!

THAT, my friend, is ORWELLIAN BEYOND BELIEF!!!

WE ARE LIVING ORWELL RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW!!!

Having to ignore then-candidate Obama's MIDDLE NAE is ORWELLIAN!!

Ignoring his TWENTY YEARS with WRIGHT is OR. WELL. IAN!!

I don't have all day but there are many more flooding my mind!

ORWELL IS NOW!!!!!

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Ummahgummah

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PC is also giving the terrorists at Gitmo shrink-wrapped KKKorags!! When we had then in custody they should have been DE-ISLAMIFIED!!

The way we are dealing with this problem we are DOOMED.

It's only a matter of time!

God, please give my compatriots some BRAINS!!! So they can SEE!!

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Ummahgummah

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PC is focusing on Israel's RESPONSE to the terror attacks on her territory! Because an honest assessment of the conflict might just lead to an accurate understanding of islam and WHY they can't rest "until each and very inch" of Israel has been made "judenrein".

A true understanding of the Koran and what it mandates to its believers? OH NO! Can't have THAT!

Oh no! That might lead to "hate"! It might even lead to "anti-moslem backlash"!

And there is NOTHING more important than preventing an "anti-moslem backlash"!

Even if it comes at the expense of the TRUTH.

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DJ

"Dude, we've been LIVING an Orwellian PRESENT ever since the Eighties when POLITICAL CORRECTNESS first spilled over from academia into the mainstream, where it has since metastasized."

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HEAR! HEAR!

Dgscol

Is Michael Steele really an underground Tea Party revolutionary?

DJ

Is Michael Steele really an underground Tea Party revolutionary?

Posted by: Truther | April 17, 2010 at 11:31 AM

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What makes you ask that, Truther?

Ummahgummah

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I think that was what is called a rhetorical question.

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Ummahgummah

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When Michael Steele became chairman of the RNC there was much praise far and wide and Mr. Steele was invited to speak on many a talk show too.

Recently, there's been much criticism of him to which honestly, I haven't really paid much attention to.

As the election nears I may perhaps have to look into one Michael Steele to see what if any criticism is warranted.

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Ummahgummah

"Dude, we've been LIVING an Orwellian PRESENT ever since the Eighties when POLITICAL CORRECTNESS first spilled over from academia into the mainstream, where it has since metastasized."

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HEAR! HEAR!

POSTED BY: DJ | APRIL 17, 2010 AT 11:27 AM

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IMHO this is an issue that the Tea Party also addresses as hard as the RINOs [YES that means YOU among others, Hannity] try to make it merely a tax issue.

The taxes we all bear the burden of are a DIRECT RESULT of the Orewellian Political Correctness we all speak of.

Thanks to Thorn66 for his assistance in raising the issue.

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WowZER

VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT

http://www.breitbart.tv/illinois-mayor-expresses-doubts-about-obamas-citizenship/

AP – WASHINGTON D.C. –

In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey. This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U..S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter…

LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON’T !

Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?

While I’ve little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?

So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?

And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?

The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.

Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.

Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S… Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S… State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.

Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008..

Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.

If you Don’t care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this, and then lower your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is already on life-support, and won’t survive much longer.

If you do care then Forward this to as many patriotic Americans as you can, because our country is being looted and ransacked!

DJ

I think that was what is called a rhetorical question.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | April 17, 2010 at 11:50 AM

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Oh, I see. Hahaha!

Michael Steele aside, we need to critically examine the effectiveness of the Republican Party to represent conservatives -- now and in the future. Given the fact that the racial demographics are rapidly changing in America, can the Republican Party even survive unless it continually drifts to the left? I may be completely wrong, but I do NOT see a future for conservatives (Classical Liberals) in the two-party system. Things have to change.

Ummahgummah

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I think that Demographics are overrated. They're used by the Left to make the drift toward the Left seem inevitable.

I happen to think that we need to MOBILIZE the Patriots that DO live in this country and abroad, regardless of creed, color and so on.

If there is something meaningful to vote *FOR*, I KNOW THEY WILL COME.

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Ummahgummah

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AS FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, it is THEY who need to decide whether they want to indeed become an obsolete appendix of the DemocRATS, dwindling in numbers and influence as an increasingly demoralized electorate turns away from them, mired in hopelessness, desperately hoping for a meaningful PATRIOTIC Third Party they can vote FOR.

It is up to US to kick the Republican Party in its big fat lazy KuntryKlubber behind, throw out the RINOs, especially the ones behind the scenes like Grover Norquist and James Bakkker, who have sold their souls to Satan and are busy selling out this country to islam!

They are doing so quietly, stealthily and with deadly effectiveness.

All the while they are not loath to wear American Flag lapel pins and cross their hearts when need be.

Compared to these guys the DemocRATs are mere amateurs.

The difference between them is that that DemocRATS like Obama fervently believe in the righteousness of their cause, which is why they find even the exterior trappings of Patriotism, like said lapel pins, so very loathsome.

A Norquist or a Bakkker would never have bothered to insist a Mother Mary statue be covered up when speaking at Notre Dame.

They are slick and devious snake-men who are devoid of soul, working tirelessly on behalf of their masters.

BUT - the republican Party also has people like Michelle Bachmann, Sue Myrick, Tom Tancredo, Rudy [I know he's very liberal on some issues, but he IS a Patriot who KNOWS about islam] Giuliani and many more.

At this time the best strategy going forward is to strengthen their hand and to make sure that as many people who think like them rise to positions of influence and power inside the GOP.

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Ummahgummah

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Wowzer, all that you post there is great news, but some of the argumentation therein is flawed:

For example:

Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S… State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

I mean c'mon, how lame is that? How many American travel to Cuba via Third Countries all the tiem?

He may have broken the law if he was indeed an American Citizen at the time, but I highly doubt that Pakistan would have denied him entry based on what "no travel" list the State Dept. had put Pakistan on.

Let's keep the ball close to the pitch please.

I do like some of the other things I read, though. If he applied for aid as a foreign student, then what documents did he provide at the time?

THAT is indeed worthy of further investigation!

On the other hand he could have still been an American, who committed fraud to scam himself some foreign aid.

If that is what he did then he's off the hook because he was never caught or tried in court for it, thus has has no criminal record that might prevent him from holding his present office.

Thus we MUST know what documentation he used to apply for aid as a foreign student.

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DJ

"If there is something meaningful to vote *FOR*, I KNOW THEY WILL COME."

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I agree.

I wonder what would happen if conservatives decided to run as Democrats? Is it possible they could garner more votes than if they ran a Republicans? My hunch is more patriotic minorities and working-class whites would vote for a conservative if s/he ran as a Democrat. If my thought proved out to be correct, we, conservatives, could consolidate the majority of the voting block and leave the libtards, the RINOs and country-club blue-bloods out in the political cold. Just a thought.

Ummahgummah

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DJ, your thoughts are 100% correct. Only that the DemocRATS would do their darndest to drive out any True Conservatives running in their party.

Those so-called "blue dogs" were just a bunch of actors, who pulled one over on a traditional DemoCRAT-allied electorate whose interests the DemocRAT Party has long ceased to represent.

What we need to do is have an open fight within the GOP, where the KuntryKlubbers get spanked out of their entrenched positions. This must be done visible to the Public, who, as you rightfully point out, is equally turned off by selfish blue-bloods as it is by islam-sympathizing Lefty-profs.

Things are in motion!

Time to stir up the mix!

This is a great opportunity for US as well! One we should never miss as taught to us by Saul Alinski!

Our aims will not be achieved with Newts and Bakers! Much less Megan McLAME and Hucksterbee.

If ONLY the aforementioned would follow Arlen Spector's example!

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Ummahgummah

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I also think that the people we need on our side are principled and would prefer to vote for someone who tells them an uncomfortable truth as opposed to making it up as they go along..

I also prefer those who'd prefer to close ANYTHING else before they start reducing police and Fire Services.

It's an old trick they use. They say that they will need to close police and fire departments when there are loads of fat that could be trimmed in form of bureaucrats and feel-good programs.

This is where you can tell the liberal from the American! The lib will always cut the police first!

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Ummahgummah

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Monica is talking about the Bama Bow-a-thon LOL Maybe she could suggest he bow to CONSERVATIVES.

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xbjllb

RE: Obama's citizenship issue

The matter is unfortunately, a dead deal. The GOP screwed itself when proclaiming that Dubyah's 2000 illegitimacy didn't matter (after all recounts showed he'd lost Florida) because Gore CONCEDED. Even Scalia says Bush was President not because of his corrupt court, but because they stopped the recount and Gore then conceded.

You can't have it both ways. Did Obama commit fraud? Of course. Was he eligible to be President? Of course not. Never. Will it matter?

No. Because McCain CONCEDED. Essentially, you have a President that is merely President because his opponent, rightly or wrongly, GAVE UP TOO SOON.

And the left wing media have been on top of this FROM DAY ONE, using weasel wording (Chris Matthews especially) that the birth issue doesn't matter because "Obama is of course, one of us" and that the people who care about the Constitution (on BOTH sides of the political spectrum; there are MANY birthers on the left) are essentially racist because Obama was born in Kenya and holds Indonesian citizenship, and although raised in Hawaii, isn't one of "us".

The man and his campaign perpetrated the greatest fraud in US election history, but to call him on it is to be called racist.

So it's a dead in the water done deal, and has been FROM DAY ONE.

The US media cared more about putting up an appearance that racism is over, than whether or not the Constitution or Rule of Law applied to the Presidency anymore.

If Obama's lack of citizenship is proven, NOTHING will change; Congress will merely quickly change the law and make it retroactive "in this special case of ultimate national emergency". And the GOP will go along almost unanimously except for the usual Tea Party nutcases you'll be able to count on one hand.

BECAUSE, such a law change would immediately open the door for a Schwarzeneggar run. And an Obama rout.

And then all bets are off.

xbjllb

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see the ticket of Schwarzeneggar/Jeb Bush DECIMATE Obama.

Princess will just have to settle for National Security Advisor.

Ummahgummah

"If Obama's lack of citizenship is proven, NOTHING will change; Congress will merely quickly change the law and make it retroactive "in this special case of ultimate national emergency". And the GOP will go along almost unanimously except for the usual Tea Party nutcases you'll be able to count on one hand."

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Some of said "nutcases" would bring this issue before the Supreme Court, should Congress pass a retro-active "Ermächtigungsgesetz".

This will never happen.

Anything requiring the issue to come before Congress wouldn't be before the November elections anyway.

I highly doubt that a Republican-majority Congress would have the chutzpah to vote for something that fascist against the EXPRESSED WILL of their constituents.

Ravings of a deluded Xmind..

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DJ

Gee, I wonder why those two old Jewish ladies were clutching their purses when the young black women Monica is interviewing entered the elevator? Could it just be BLACKS HAVE RIGHTFULLY EARNED THE REPUTATION OF BEING VIOLENT CRIMINALS!!!!!!!!! Those two women weren't practicing racism, they were reacting in a normal manner.

Ummahgummah

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Well, DJ, afaic that depends on what the young black woman looked like at the time when she got on the elevator. It's also typical for Manhattan LIEberals to be scared the very people they are so LIEberal for.

There were and still are - some scary-looking white females in the City still who might scare the bejeebus out of a couple of old ladies.. full of tats, a mouth full of hardware and piercings God-only-knows-where.

By the way, I had a similar experience with two such old ladies telling an Ethiopian woman they saw me on the elevator with to "go back home to her country".

Meanwhile my friend was a model, very clean-cut, who spoke several languages, owned a penthouse in the building and paid her share in taxes.

So I told them she was just here to make sure that their social security was paid for.

Lots of Ethiopian Christians fled their homeland because of the ongoing islamic onslaught on that country and I learned some of the things I know about islam today from her.

Ethiopia was one of the original Christian countries and they are the only one in that area who have resisted islamization to this day. Try having Somalia as YOUR neighbor! No, this is not like having Mexico.. this is MUCH worse!

I definitely did not think she deserved the abuse from those two - doubtlessly DemonRAT-voting - yentas on the elevator.

PS. I haven't heard of a lot of black females stealing purses either. Maybe they do it in other parts of the country, I don't know.

I'm just saying let's keep things fair and open-minded, that's all.

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WowZER

RE: Ummahgummah | April 17, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Apologies for the Smoking Gun - Birth Certificate post!

If Factcheck.com is correct, it appears that I have been burned by an April Fools joke :-(

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/was-obama-born-in-the-usa/

What a disappointment!

There I was thinking there was a glimmer of "Hope and Change we didn't have to Bereave In"

Now it's back to being depressed over that "Caldward-Piven Strategy stuff he's pulling on all of us :-(

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/03/wonder_where_the_next_crisis_w.html

Ummahgummah

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Hey, it happens to all of us.. too bad too.. well, like I pointed out, much of the logic there was flawed.

The thing about him applying for aid as a foreign student sounded pretty realistic to me as well, regardless of whether one poses as a foreign student or really happens to be one. I am sure people cheat on this all the time.

Which begs the question: WHY THE F*CK DO FOREIGN STUDENTS GET AID!!

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DJ

"Well, DJ, afaic that depends on what the young black woman looked like at the time when she got on the elevator. It's also typical for Manhattan LIEberals to be scared the very people they are so LIEberal for.

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I'm just saying let's keep things fair and open-minded, that's all."


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Fair enough, Ummah. I see your point and it's a good one. It does depend on what she looked like. Having worked in the City of Detroit all my life I can easily discriminate between blacks with ill intent and the others. Its just that their are so many with ill intent it pays to play it on the safe side. That said, I didn't believe her story anyway; I think she's a liar. But even if it was true, then I say: AWH, BOOOO HOOOOO! Poor baby got her feelings hurt by other peoples' reaction to her apperrence. Maybe if she experienced real racism or racial discrimination, the kind that the government sanctions against whites such as affirmative action (read: racial preferences in hiring), then she'd have a legitimate grievance. But the version of racism she claims to have experienced isn't racism at all, it's more accurately classified as paranoia.

Ummahgummah

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You got a point re. the crybaby thin, DJ. Though I gotta say Monica asked her a leading question and she's probably related that story to thousands of eager white folks who were hanging on each and every tear-choked word.

I've had plenty or racist things said or done to me and whenever prudent I certainly gave back as good as I got.

When you're dating a black woman her response to comments from racist black men whom you WILL encounter ALL of the time will tell you immediately if you should continue to bother with her or not.

Now THAT would be a topic for Oprah, but I doubt she wants to go there. Hahaha.

But I agree.. Boo-hoo-hoo! They clutched their purses! Oh pity me!

Monica needs to get a reality check when it comes to her investigative interviewing and reporting on race.

The interview with Pastor Peterson was a bit better though, I thought.

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DJ

Let’s do it (let’s love big Al)

Dems do it
Bush did it
Even angry African-American GOP chairmen do it
Let’s do it
Let’s love big Al.

Newt does it
Beck does it
Even people to the right of Genghis Khan do it
Let’s do it
Let’s love big Al.

That’s what the GOP establishment is telling us. They want us to join the Al Sharpton parade, or at the very least not criticize people who do. GOP national chairman Michael Steele this week is the latest. Our answer should be: So long as you traffic with Sharpton, we will have no traffic with you.
It was President Bush who broke down any remaining establishment Republican resistance to Sharpton when he invited him to a White House event in 2008 and yukked it up with him. Here is VFR’s entry on that disgusting event, in which I recount why no decent human being should have anything to do with Sharpton, let alone self-described conservatives.


Posted by Lawrence Auster at 03:55 PM

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xbjllb

"I highly doubt that a Republican-majority Congress..." - UG(h)


UG(h), even the remotest possibility of a GOP-majority Congress is the greatest delusion of all delusions on here. Not happening.

Not this decade. Perhaps never. The Tea Party, instead of reviving the GOP, is marginalizing it while simultaneously exposing it for the unbelievably hypocritical fascist whorehouse it is like nothing ever before seen. A Tea Party "purged" GOP has as much chance at a majority in Congress as a Ku Klux Klan purged GOP.

For, in the perception of anyone NOT in the Tea Party, the Tea Party might as well be the Ku Klux Klan. Or probably more accurately, Hitler's SA brownshirts before they were promptly disposed of the second they became more trouble than they were worth.

The only difference yo make anyone for a single second think otherwise, is this time the Ku Klux Klan/SA have a very rich and powerful buddy named Rupert Murdoch who runs a propaganda network all its own and spearheads the fascist consortium of CEO's who'd like very much to keep running America, and especially its middle class, into the ground.

And this network's handful of viewers actually believes the spin that they are the majority, when they are nowhere near.

Obama actually only has to pull out HALF his base to retain the Democratic majority in both houses of Congress. Which he'll do easily.

Those are the true numbers apart from the fantasy Leni Riefenstahl "Triumph of the Will" of Fox "News".

And the final nail on the coffin will be the GOP obstruction of the regulation of Wall Street. But how could they do anything else as the penultimate whores of Big Business.

M/M

Haha!! M/M I knew I could count on you!! Yep, it looks like they're trying to pull another one over on us indeed!

Looks like Sister Sarah got star struck or money greedy, whichever one it is..

Ain't gonna work this time!

BEWARE of the Tea Party EXPRESS!!!.

Posted by: Ummah Gummah the lib destroyah! | April 16, 2010 at 09:38 PM

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YOU BETCHA! The Tea Party Express rolled through town on Tuesday, but I didn't go. Crowd estimates this afternoon were about 1,000 even though it was pouring right before and right in the middle. Everyone stayed.

Very productive Tea Party. We launched Tea Party radio and learned how to run our own candidates.

I still like Sarah Palin, and unlike "the empty skirts" am not jealous of her success, but I like tea, not kool aid.

(Saw a couple Savage Nation hats on one "Trickle up Poverty" sign).

Just Vote Them Out 2010 - and that means RINOs too.

DJ

"UG(h), even the remotest possibility of a GOP-majority Congress is the greatest delusion of all delusions on here. Not happening."

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The only reason I can agree with X-Lax is that Dick Morris predicts the Republicans will take over the House and Senate just like they did in 1994. If Dick Morris says it will be so, you can bet the farm it will NOT be so. Dick Morris can't be trusted.

Ummahgummah

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M/M, I am not saying that I dislike Sarah Palin all of a sudden. what I am saying is that I noticed with great sadness that she started getting cozy with the likes of McCain, Oprah and so on.

Someone posted here about the so-called "Tea Party Express" being a very RINO PAC designed to siphon funds away from the real Tea Partiers who so desperately need it.

It's getting nastier and we have to be careful.

THEY have experience and incumbency on their side.

And more money.

Never forget that.

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Ummahgummah

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"So long as you traffic with Sharpton, we will have no traffic with you."

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Even if once you did we won't UNLESS YOU RENOUNCE!

This is indeed a BELLWETHER!

And I don't care what all these people say about Rudy Giuliani. He REFUSED to meet with that fat thug, no matter how much the media were howling with rage.

They were howling even louder than Fat Al.

LOL

Giuliani may not believe in everything that I believe in. But until I see otherwise I say the man has PRINCIPLES.

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xbjllb

Some badly needed facts about the Tea Party that illustrate my earlier post:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002529-503544.html

jay

UGH,
I threw in that "Goldy" mistake for you. You would have loved that Bill Moyer show about how the Banks knew what they did was wrong. But, they also knew that they could get away with it.

jay

About the"birther" movement. Reminds me of those who believe that the Holocaust didn't exist and that the landing on the moon was a lie. And, someome made a comment on MY education? And, that CBS poll said that for the most part, Tea Partiers have a good education.Oh, well!

Ummahgummah

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Uh Jay.. for someone that watches PBS as much as you do.. It's Bill Moyers.
Moyers. With an "s".

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