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March 24, 2010

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gringoman

By Monica Crowley

Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains.

-Jean-Jacques Rousseau

The thrust of Monica's article is that the Obots are putting American exceptionalism in chains, and that Americans must and will throw off these restraints.

Yes, but exactly how unpopular is the Nanny State that binds? Ask the Federal hires who are gorging on pay and benefits they can't get in the private sector. Ask the union beneficiaries of fat retirement schemes. Republicans? Ask the Republicans who fell over each other to support Georgie Bush's massive new drug entitlements for seniors. Ask any of the great majority who already are getting some form of state subsidy, whether in mass transit, free emergency care or a hundred other items. If you want to critique socialism---and I do---you have to own up to how much of it is already here. Otherwise you're playing like most do---without a full deck.

Do we have to be Dostoyevsky's Grand Inquisitor to know that mankind has a love-hate relationship with chains?

xbjllb

America hasn't been exceptional, Princess, since we dropped bombs on the innocent women and children of Hiroshima and Nagasaki when we didn't have to. THAT was the beginning of the end of American "exceptionalism", right then and there, sealed with the deaths of millions of innocents in Iraq under your god Cheney.

As far as giving healthcare to three million Americans who can't afford it, that is EXACTLY what American "exceptionalism" IS, and only the Democrats are trying to restore it from the decades when Reagan deregulation and years of GOP giving the insurance industry a complete free hand to screw over the American public every chance they got.

Even your own former boss, Richard Nixon, wanted to reform the system and bring healthcare to all. I imagine he's quite ashamed of you, your current position on the issue, and your choice of path in life now.

Christ promised that He as God would judge all humans by how they treated the poor. May God truly have mercy on you and your fellow "conservatives" for your gross sin and your outright lies about the healthcare bill.

DJ

The Undead Destroyers reach their high water mark

LL writes:

This photo perfectly encapsulates the moment: a gaggle of smug white elites smiling with deep satisfaction while a nonwhite transfers wealth and power to the permanently disadvantaged under the gaze of an exemplar of that class (an overweight black boy whose mother died of pulmonary hypertension).

more...

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/016083.html

Ummahgummah

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Guys on Moonbattery were saying we'll let all the illegals in and then they give us mexico in return but they have to agree to LEAVE US ALONE once we do the deal.

LIEberals could be left behind with their pet aliens, of course :-)

There's lots of gold, silver and oil there and if they're incapable of building a decent country out of all that AND NO RESTRICTIVE ENVIRONMENTAL and other rules to boot!

If all of US went there and left the unproductive libs behind we could do rather well amongst ourselves.

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Ummahgummah

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Guys check this out:

http://www.moonbattery.com/assets_c/2010/03/asdf4324-1337.html

MISS ME YET?

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M/M

"Liberal journalists have squandered any credibility they imagine they have as referees of political civility. They not only fail to decry liberal mudslinging, they do it all on their own."
http://townhall.com/columnists/BrentBozell/2010/03/24/tainting_the_tea_party?page=2


M/M

Memories from the Bush years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTdovjvGu5A

xbjllb

Mussolini's own penned encyclopedia of fascism... you need to read it. It sounds like the platform of the GOP as THEY THEMSELVES have written it.

"Fascism, the more it considers and observes the future and the development of humanity quite apart from political considerations of the moment, believes neither in the possibility nor the utility of perpetual peace. It thus repudiates the doctrine of Pacifism -- born of a renunciation of the struggle and an act of cowardice in the face of sacrifice. War alone brings up to its highest tension all human energy and puts the stamp of nobility upon the peoples who have courage to meet it. All other trials are substitutes, which never really put men into the position where they have to make the great decision -- the alternative of life or death....

...The Fascist accepts life and loves it, knowing nothing of and despising suicide: he rather conceives of life as duty and struggle and conquest, but above all for others -- those who are at hand and those who are far distant, contemporaries, and those who will come after...

...Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism [Left Wing Communism], the materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production.... Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive, direct or indirect. And if the economic conception of history be denied, according to which theory men are no more than puppets, carried to and fro by the waves of chance, while the real directing forces are quite out of their control, it follows that the existence of an unchangeable and unchanging class-war is also denied - the natural progeny of the economic conception of history. And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society....

After Socialism, Fascism combats the whole complex system of democratic ideology, and repudiates it, whether in its theoretical premises or in its practical application. Fascism denies that the majority, by the simple fact that it is a majority, can direct human society; it denies that numbers alone can govern by means of a periodical consultation, and it affirms the immutable, beneficial, and fruitful inequality of mankind, which can never be permanently leveled through the mere operation of a mechanical process such as universal suffrage....

...Fascism denies, in democracy, the absur[d] conventional untruth of political equality dressed out in the garb of collective irresponsibility, and the myth of "happiness" and indefinite progress....

...Given that the nineteenth century was the century of Socialism, of Liberalism, and of Democracy, it does not necessarily follow that the twentieth century must also be a century of Socialism, Liberalism and Democracy: political doctrines pass, but humanity remains, and it may rather be expected that this will be a century of authority...a century of Fascism. For if the nineteenth century was a century of individualism it may be expected that this will be the century of collectivism and hence the century of the State....

The foundation of Fascism is the conception of the State, its character, its duty, and its aim. Fascism conceives of the State as an absolute, in comparison with which all individuals or groups are relative, only to be conceived of in their relation to the State. The conception of the Liberal State is not that of a directing force, guiding the play and development, both material and spiritual, of a collective body, but merely a force limited to the function of recording results: on the other hand, the Fascist State is itself conscious and has itself a will and a personality -- thus it may be called the "ethic" State....

...The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all useless and possibly harmful freedom, but retains what is essential; the deciding power in this question cannot be the individual, but the State alone....

...For Fascism, the growth of empire, that is to say the expansion of the nation, is an essential manifestation of vitality, and its opposite a sign of decadence. Peoples which are rising, or rising again after a period of decadence, are always imperialist; and renunciation is a sign of decay and of death. Fascism is the doctrine best adapted to represent the tendencies and the aspirations of a people, like the people of Italy, who are rising again after many centuries of abasement and foreign servitude. But empire demands discipline, the coordination of all forces and a deeply felt sense of duty and sacrifice: this fact explains many aspects of the practical working of the regime, the character of many forces in the State, and the necessarily severe measures which must be taken against those who would oppose this spontaneous and inevitable movement of Italy in the twentieth century, and would oppose it by recalling the outworn ideology of the nineteenth century - repudiated wheresoever there has been the courage to undertake great experiments of social and political transformation; for never before has the nation stood more in need of authority, of direction and order. If every age has its own characteristic doctrine, there are a thousand signs which point to Fascism as the characteristic doctrine of our time. For if a doctrine must be a living thing, this is proved by the fact that Fascism has created a living faith; and that this faith is very powerful in the minds of men is demonstrated by those who have suffered and died for it."

rickswrite

XBJLLB!! Since i exposed your blindingly historical ignorance before in regards to WW11, you should be ashamed to mention it again on this board. America is and always will be, despite the brilliaintly ignorant like you,exceptional. Since your facts are always wrong, of course, your approach to the future is as skewed as a pretzel. I warn you to shut your screaming cake-hole or i will run so many undeniable facts on this board as to send you on another sabbatical, AGAIN! As to Insurance companies, i have been insured for health by an INSURANCE COMPANY and have NEVER had a legitimate procedure turned down not to mention hundreds, well, maybe in the fifties of doctor's visits paid for. NOW, for the salient point you annoying boob.....People will DIE with insurance or not. An insurance policy will save no one from the grave....jeez

Ummahgummah

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Moonbattery.org is a treasure trove of material:

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2007/01/moonbats-do-our.html

Gringoman in particular will enjoy this rogues' gallery of lamestreamers and America-hating traitors since the Vietnam War (and how the lamestream, hand-in-hand with the enemy, undermined US then) is also mentioned, among others.

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Ummahgummah

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Since the X-krement is once again pooping all over our board.. here's an article about its jew-hater hero, complete with picture:

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2007/01/jewbaiting-jimm.html

Not to mention that he hates Middle America as well, of course.

Earth to X-krement:
Go buy yourself a pack of Chesterfields with the rest of the money you got trading in your food stamps at your local bodega so you could buy some crack, and SMOKE 'em.

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gringoman

Moonbattery.org is a treasure trove of material:

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2007/01/moonbats-do-our.html

Gringoman in particular will enjoy this rogues' gallery of lamestreamers and America-hating traitors since the Vietnam War (and how the lamestream, hand-in-hand with the enemy, undermined US then) is also mentioned, among others.

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Posted by: Ummah Gummah | March 24, 2010 at 09:56 PM

Ummah,

Not an uninteresting site. But I'd draw a distinction between the lamestream hacks and a controversial figure who's expected at a coming reunion---the greatest living war correspondent.

As for another type, the Liberal Fascist, who ignores the fact that most anti-American regimes, as "different" as Zimbabwe, Libya, Mao-Land and the Soviet Union,and the UN democracy=spouting gangster regimes, exhibit all the authoritarianism praised by a Mussolini, and sometimes far worse.........the little troll version of Liberal Fascist usually isn't coherent enough to understand it's own spew. It makes dungburgers, spices them up with lots of condiments like "peace" and "justice" and "anti-fascist" ad fecalum. Then chomps away on the concoction, mocking the "wingnuts" who don't know what's good for them, like his savory dungburger.

Ummahgummah

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Gringoman, I just read that and I am IN mutha effing STITCHES!! ROFLMMFAO!!

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xbjllb

"Go buy yourself a pack of Chesterfields..." UG(h)


Sorry, I'm not a victim of Big Tobacco and never have been, having been born with intelligence and common sense.

Wanna bet though how many of your crackpots and GOP are poison puffers though? Show of hands...

"Smoking prevalence is among the highest for people with mental illness - approximately 75 % of individuals with serious mental illness are tobacco dependent compared to 22% of the general population. Individuals with a mental illness and/or substance use disorder consume about 44% of all cigarettes in the United States. People with mental illness also experience higher rates of disease and premature death than the general population and are dying prematurely - 25 years earlier than the general population - largely from tobacco caused diseases."
http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=eohhs2terminal&L=3&L0=Home&L1=Government&L2=Special+Commissions+and+Initiatives&sid=Eeohhs2&b=terminalcontent&f=dmh_g_tobacco_free&csid=Eeohhs2

xbjllb

But wait! There's more! Light up and enjoy!

With regard to schizophrenia, here is a study showing that 79% of them smoke:
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/152/3/453

Wikipedia also says that 80% of schizophrenics smoke:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia_and_smoking
http://stanford.wellsphere.com/brain-health-article/why-do-schizophrenics-smoke-cigarettes/738812

Tobacco Madness
http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/display/article/10168/50461?verify=0

xbjllb

And this:

See: "Persons with mental illness are about twice as likely to smoke as other persons." And, "Persons with a currently active mental disorder consumed 44 per cent of all the cigarettes smoked in this nationally representative sample." Karen Lasser, MD, et al, "Smoking and Mental Illness: A Population-Based Prevalence Study," 284 J American Medical Association #20 Pages 2606-2610 (22/29 Nov 2000).

http://www.unhooked.com/ATOD/Lasserjama00.pdf

http://medicolegal.tripod.com/preventmentaldisorder.htm

xbjllb

"Since i exposed your blindingly historical ignorance before in regards to WWII..." - Rickswrong


In your dreams, perhaps.

Ummahgummah

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You mention some crack and a pack.. and voilá, the X-blubber can't stop yammering, whatta rush!

Hey X-blubber, chew on THIS: More Americans miss Bush than ever because they have realized that the anti-Bush hype by the media fooled them into voting for Captain Zero.

How 'bout Dem apples, boy?

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Ummahgummah

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Record number of Americans licensed to pack heat:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34714389/ns/us_news-life/#storyContinued

Result: Crime rates drop. Folks, this is on ***PMSNBC***

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DJ

They are marching;they want our country; and our traitorous leaders -- on both sides of the aisle -- are itching to give it to them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrxdIGXw_gU&feature=related

Ummahgummah

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DJ, what a bunch of disgusting MOONBATS. That video showed a lot of candidates for re-deportation.

What a joke! And all the pictures of the mass murderer Che Guevara merely serve to exacerbate the reasons why these people need to be THROWN OUT.

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xbjllb

"You mention some crack and a pack.. and voilá, the X-blubber can't stop yammering, whatta rush!" - UG(h)


Don't you even DREAM of taking credit for the handful of lives I save from horrific death from smoking. Just like Grassley already trying to take credit for healthcare provisions in the bill HE DIDN'T EVEN VOTE FOR.

xbjllb

"Crime rates drop." - UG(h)


Crime rates ALWAYS drop when there's a Democrat in the Oval Office. Has nothing to do with "gun-totin'". Has to do with the poor feeling more optimistic about their chances at the American Dream.

DJ

"Guys on Moonbattery were saying we'll let all the illegals in and then they give us mexico in return but they have to agree to LEAVE US ALONE once we do the deal.

LIEberals could be left behind with their pet aliens, of course :-)"

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Ummah,

That sounds too good!

More likely a scenario is they'll complete the fence, not to halt the flow of Mexicans from invading, no! It'll be for the purpose of stopping us from escaping to Mexico. They will hold us captive the third-world banana republic our LIEberal leaders created


DJ

hold us captive "IN" the third-world...

rickswrite

XB!! It's one thing to be just plain wrong but now to lie about it when there is written proof on this board is to expose you as a sneak. Did you or did you NOT, repeat, on this board, that the US forced Japan to attack us because the US Navy was enforcing a blockade of the Japanese Home Islands? You know you did and others on this board know it also. Now, to address your remark concerning "American Exceptionalism" and dropping two Bombs on Japan to end the war---WHO in the HELL claimed that American exceptionalism was corner-stoned by atomic bombs used against Japan---no one. American exceptionalism is based on many things, including the comfortable life of people like you who are so tied up in knots "intelellectually(?) that they think the lives we are able to pursue here are , i don't know--accidental. NOW! to make a point regarding the Japanese milatirists who ruled Japan and the 2 bombs---after you drop one A-0bomb and Japan still resists surrender--does that not suggest something to you, nincompoop? Total annihilation was the only thing the Japanese understood and they resisted the idea until the second bomb--a hydrogen bomb-- was dropped on Nagasaki. What i'm trying to explain to you, stupid, is that after all the defeats on land, sea and in the air-----ONE Abomb could'nt convince them. Now, if you cannot understand this simple history lecture designed for light-headed people like yourself then pull your pointy head back into your hole and wait til it's dark and people are asleep and then run around the sides of people's homes, you furry. red-eyed rodent!

xbjllb

Rickswrite.... your tell your bullshi*t jingoistic racist fascist justification of that particular mass murder of women and children and civilian men and boys straight to God's face, and know this: I'll be standing right there at His side.

I'd usually say at this juncture God have mercy on your soul, but in this particular heinous and persistent braindead souldead case I'll make an exception, because I detest wasted effort.

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