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January 08, 2010

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gringoman

Welcome TMG to Obaconomy!

gringINTEL (Open Source)

Jan 08, 2010

Tishman Real Estate to miss payment on a commercial loan of over $5 billion on a massive New York apartment complex, the 2nd largest default in commercial real estate loans in history.
-California declares an economic emergency.
-Employment figures stink.
-Apartment vacancies hit record highs.
-Foreclosures are setting new records.
-Consumer credit in the US drops a record $17.5 billion.


ps But Axelrod's BamBam is taking responsibility, while pointing all ten fingers and letting the printing presses bail out everything in sight---including the printing presses. Meanwhile, Republicans on fairly feckless Stand-by, awaiting the Electoral spoils.

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Nationalization is a contagion that just won’t go away. Just when we thought our children were safe from central planners, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan proposes taking over all college loans from the private sector in an article, “Banks Don't Belong in the Student Loan Business”, to which the instinctive response is: why not? Aren’t banks for lending? The argument proffered by the Secretary is in the subtitle to the article: “They [banks] get billions in federal subsides that can provide financial aid to needy students.” Duncan’s “… real aim is to simply stop using banks as the middle man for student loans.” One doesn’t know which is more startling—the conclusion that middle men who provide service for a fee should be wiped out by a government intent on communizing every facet of economic activity or the admission by a department secretary that government should not provide subsidies.

What Duncan and most government officials fail to see is that Washington is the real middle man: a dollar taken from a taxpayer in California becomes less than a dollar when paid to a taxpayer in Arkansas by the amount of the Federal government’s “processing fee”—its expenditure and borrowing costs. In the case of the Department of Education (ED) this is $70 billion plus interest plus annual escalation. Add to this the estimated $87 billion in the student loan subsidy ED will distribute over the next ten years and soon it adds up to real money.

All of which raises the rebuttal that ought to be put to Duncan: Government does not belong in education business. Since ED was first established under President Carter, the United States has made no progress vis-à-vis other advanced societies. A 2004 OECD study showed we outspend all countries except Austria, yet our literacy performance for that age is still below 12 industrialized countries.

Nor is the problem all in Washington. The current system of funding education with property tax funds shows no objective merit. I compared total state spending on education with SAT scores and participation rates, ranging from 90% in Maine to 3% in South Dakota. Correlations are NEGATIVE between the combined SAT score and per capita state education spending or per capita property taxes and mildly positive between participation and spending or taxes. In other words the high tax, high spending states can lead the student to the test, but they cannot assure good scores. One may argue it is good more students are applying to college in those profligate states. But scores over a ten year period have dropped four points in critical reading while rising only four points in math on average, with the poorest results in high cost states; the worst being Maine which dropped 39 points in reading and 36 points in math in that ten year period.

The No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 apparently left some children behind. A study by the National Bureau for Economic Research showed that whereas math scores improved in the 4th and 8th grades after the Act, reading scores did not.

Private schools, however, consistently show better results. ED’s own National Center for Education Statistics concluded, “In grades 4 and 8 for both reading and mathematics, students in private schools achieved at higher levels than students in public schools.” So why are we still clinging to the public school?

A precondition to achieving the best education necessary to preserve and promote our precious liberties and economic growth is a challenge to basic assumptions:

1. Embedded and automatic increases in elementary and secondary school budgets resulting from rising property assessments diminish accountability and hinder improvements in student performance. Parents ought to be allowed the freedom to pay directly for the school of their choice without being penalized by paying a tax and a tuition.
2. If we subsidize economic activity, it becomes more expensive. Therefore, to arrest the increase in college education costs, we should stop subsidizing it.
3. If we expect less from our children, we will get less. Government’s sole role ought to be to set standards for excellence, and this should be achieved by volunteers at no cost to taxpayers.

The average per pupil cost for students K-12 nationally is almost $9000 yearly, while the average private education costs $8400. Making education private, closing ED, and ending the property tax financing of public education, makes both economic and educational sense.

http://www.examiner.com/x-24933-Economic-Policy-Examiner

http://www.twitter/freecapitalism

gringoman

DIRTBAGGERS TARGET 'TEABAGGERS'

Targeting the Tea Party
January 8, 2010 by Doctor Zero


The Tea Party movement has grown with astonishing speed. Swaddled in discussion-board posts and nursed with e-mail over the past year, the movement is now a month away from speaking with a unified voice for the first time, at its first national convention in Nashville. The transition from demonstrations to conventions marks an evolution from expressing need to taking action… from describing what is wrong to declaring what would be right.

A concerted attempt to discredit and marginalize the Tea Party movement has developed with equally amazing speed. The dimmer bulbs in this pinball machine of contempt, such as Chris Matthews, have worked hard to make the derogatory, sexually tainted slang term “teabaggers” popular. The term spread to supposedly mainstream, “impartial” journalists with viral efficiency. It’s hard to imagine a comparable grassroots movement, with a racial or collectivist agenda more agreeable to the Left, suffering this kind of crude insult. Mocking nicknames would never be slapped on a group of illegal aliens agitating for greater welfare benefits. That level of elite contempt is reserved for middle-class folks who object to paying for those benefits. The media covers Tea Parties with the same condescension they show to any unseemly spectacle of tax serfs refusing to “pay their fair share.” To those who believe all virtue resides in the compassionate power of the State, resistance always equals greed.

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2010/01/08/targeting-the-tea-party/

gringoman

DIRTBAGGERS TARGET 'TEABAGGERS'

The war against the Tea Party is an extension of the long war against the American middle class. The Left believes it will achieve final victory through socialized medicine, which will forever shackle the middle class as dependents of the State, and destroy the independence that makes them dangerous. The Tea Party says it has only begun to fight. Next month, the most sincerely middle-class major party candidate in recent history will take the stage on their behalf, and render two-thirds of David Brooks’ analysis obsolete: the Tea Party will still be large, but it will longer be quite so fractious, or defined only by what it opposes.

Cross-posted at www.doczero.org

xbjllb

"The war against the Tea Party is an extension of the long war against the American middle class." - Gringo

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After eight years of Reagan deregulation, and another twelve years of Bush I and Bush II deregulation and offsourcing, THERE'S NO MIDDLE CLASS LEFT TO PLUNDER.

That's why the House of Representatives had the right idea; fund healthcare by taxing people who earn more than $500,000/year.

Tax the rich. They can afford it. Render to Caesar what is Caesar's. Or leave the US.

The Reagan/Bush way only decimated the Middle Class and enriched the uber-riche.

NEVER AGAIN.

xbjllb

"The dimmer bulbs in this pinball machine of contempt, such as Chris Matthews, have worked hard to make the derogatory, sexually tainted slang term “teabaggers” popular." - Gringo

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I WATCH Chris Matthews on MSNBC. On the contrary, he's played PLENTY of footage of tea partiers self-reference to themselves as "teabaggers" before he ever started referring to them as such. He's always been queasy about off color references, like when a Congressman frequent guest said Cheney needed to STFU.

Perhaps you'd prefer "Tea Partiers"? Because anyone who thinks GOP unlimited deregulation and offsourcing are the answer to the decimation of the middle class are sure high as hell on SOMETHING and it isn't intelligence.

Dgscol

There is a new wave of mortgage defaults for people without sub-prime loans. They know this tsunmai wave begins now and peaks in 2011, and is larger than the sub-prime mess, involving initial teaser interest rates. People are already defaulting on the teaser rates.

The banks had full control over how much they invested in foreign countries, how much industrial equipment and whole corporations were transported abroad, and control over housing. They must have known that the plan to outsource jobs would cause a loss of jobs, and a crisis in housing. So why should the government cover them? The only reason is that the government was a partner in a backroom plan. Who actually was responsible? Was it people like the weasel Phil step-across-the-aisle Gramm? Clinton? Rubin? Greenspan? Perhaps we should send them the bill. There was probably enough money rotating back into the pockets of political associates and bankers, that it would make the S&L scandal look like a drop in the ocean. They should give it back.

At the very least, the banks must balance their books, and be aware of what they are doing before they produce a calamity like this. If this was planned, it wasn't a good plan. It might have involved many loose participants that each acted somewhat independently, just as our intelligence branches do, not actually
communicating well with each other. It is amazing. We are so into communications here in the US, and people do not talk to each other. Then, of course, there is the further consideration of foreign influences in domestic banking and politics that must be controlled, or no coherent planning is actually possible.

M/M

The more things change, the more they remain the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXPUkdbQ8js&feature=related

JUST VOTE THEM OUT 2010!

gringoman

HUMAN EVENTS/////I'm sure you know that the U.S. Senate passed its version of socialized health care -- better known as "ObamaCare" -- in last-minute votes, in the dead of night, right before the Christmas holiday.

BUT -- did you know that, thanks to a parliamentary maneuver by Senate Republicans just before the recess... ObamaCare could be dead on arrival in the U.S. House of Representatives?

gringoNOTE: No, I didn't know that, and I'll believe it when I see it. The feckless Republicans, only marginally less reprehensible than the devious neo-Marxist Democrats and their "People's" caravan of insufferable duffers, kooks, lemmings and fingers of The Purple Hand---you mean this bunch will hold off Obamanationcare and the coming Socialist Death by Bureaucracy?

Yeah, right.

gringoman

gringoNOTE: Another example of why the ProgressivISTS and their liberal racists hate Michelle Malkin, The Filipina Flame-thrower.....


Strange Tales Of The Vampire Congress

By MICHELLE MALKINPosted 01/06/2010 06:45 PM ET

Meet the Beltway bloodsuckers. They convene in the dead of night, when most ordinary mortals have left work and let their guard down or are lying asleep in bed. Pale-faced and insatiable, the nocturnal thieves do their nefarious business in backrooms and secret chambers.

Their primary victims? Taxpayers, the free market and deliberative democracy.

Democratic leaders have been promising the most ethical, transparent, open and engaged administration for years. Instead, they have delivered a bleak and creepy legislative environment that could double as a "Twilight" movie set.

Skulking Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid rammed the government health care takeover package through under the cover of darkness before Thanksgiving and Christmas. House Democratic leaders forbade debate on all but one amendment not authored by themselves.

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=517265

M/M

Why do the Republicans NOT HAVE ONE candidate to run against Kirsten Gillibrand? The Democrats are fighting over that slot. This is actually an election we could win.

Thanks to Michael Steele for coming on the show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KVmRtEO18k

Just say NO to full body scans because this is yet another way for the government to inconvenience me and spend more of my tax dollars.

M/M

TELL THEM MONICA!!!!!!THESE PEOPLE WANT TO KILL US!!!!!
THOSE PEOPLE ON THAT PLANE WERE LUCKY THAT THE PANTY BOMBER DIDNT BLOW THEM UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA DID NOTHING.

Checkers

Just in case you get a check from the Government...

Sometime this year, we taxpayers will again receive an Economic Stimuluspayment. This is a very exciting program. I'll explain it using the Q and A format:

Q. What is an Economic Stimulus payment?

A. It is money that the federal government will send to taxpayers.


Q. Where will the government get this money?

A. From taxpayers...

Q. So the government is giving me back my own money?

A. Only a smidgen.

Q. What is the purpose of this payment?

A. The plan is for you to use the money to purchase a high-definition TV set, thus stimulating the economy.


Q. But isn't that stimulating the economy of Asia ?

A. Shut up or you don't get your check!


Below is some helpful advice on how to best help the US economy by spending your stimulus check wisely:

1) If you spend the stimulus money at Wal-Mart, your money will go to China

2) If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to Saudi Arabia ..

3) If you purchase a computer, it will go to India .

4) If you purchase fruits and vegetables, it will go to Mexico , Honduras and Guatemala

5) If you buy a car, it will go to Japan or Korea.

6) If you purchase useless plastic stuff, it will go to Taiwan.

7) If you pay off your credit cards, or buy stock, it will go to pay management bonuses and be hidden in offshore accounts.

Instead, you can keep the money in America by:

1) Spending it at yard sales or flea markets, or

2) Going to baseball or football games, or

3) Hiring prostitutes, or

4) Buying cheap beer, or

5) Getting tattoos.

These are the only wholly-American-owned businesses still operating in the US .

Conclusion:
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The best way to stimulate the economy is to go to a ball game with aprostitute that you met at a yard sale and drink beer all day until you're drunk enough to go get tattooed.

Ummahgummah

Even McCain realizes

"Obama is leading an extreme left-wing crusade to bankrupt America"

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2010/01/mccain_vs_obamas_leftwing_crus.html

IT's ALL DELIBERATE! It's not a matter of being clueless with the hope of eventual enlightenment or on-the-job training.

IT's "BRING IT ALL DOWN, MAN" while pretending to act in the interest of America.

POSTED BY: CHECKERS | JANUARY 08, 2010 AT 04:45 PM

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Let's not forget that McLAME is up for election. He's just saying what he thinks he needs to say to get re-elected.

Nothing more, nothing less.

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Ummahgummah

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Gringoman is valiantly knocking down all the illogical lunacies spewed by the Xkrement.

Maybe this is bearing fruit in form of diminished attacks from the creep.

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rickswrite

Funny Checkers, funny (and not so far out). Say, i wonder how long it will take for Oflamabags or whatever the underwear bomber calls himself to write a book, show up on Oprah with Barry Hussein Obama(who attended Madrassas) and hug each other?

M/M

Monica is talking about how Hillary's STATE DEPARTMENT issued this guy a DIVERSITY VISA.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/how_did_undy_bomber_get_visa_XamVKJPCN0zATe44TQk0dI

FULL BODY SCANNERS ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE ME FEEL ANY SAFER WITH THESE IDIOTS IN CHARGE.


Checkers

More fallout from Obama's decision to prosecute foreign terrorists in U.S. courts.

Judge tosses out most evidence on Gitmo detainee
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100108/ap_on_go_ot/us_guantanamo_detainee

Those running the country now aHAVE SH*T FOR BRAINS!

M/M

Let's not forget that McLAME is up for election. He's just saying what he thinks he needs to say to get re-elected.

Nothing more, nothing less..

Posted by: Ummah Gummah | January 09, 2010 at 01:25 PM
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Savage says that he could be defeated because a J.D. Hayworth, a REAL CONSERVATIVE is challenging him. We hope AZ VOTES THE BUM OUT.

xbjllb

"Maybe this is bearing fruit in form of diminished attacks from the creep." - Ummah

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Wrong yet again. Sometimes Gringo posts truth. I usually only respond when people post lies.

You, on the other hand, have not been not so lucky.

xbjllb

"TELL THEM MONICA!!!!!!THESE PEOPLE WANT TO KILL US!!!!!
THOSE PEOPLE ON THAT PLANE WERE LUCKY THAT THE PANTY BOMBER DIDNT BLOW THEM UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA DID NOTHING." - M/M

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Luck had nothing to do with it. It was physically impossible for the amount of explosives he had in his pants to blow a hole in anything. It really was no more than the amount of a firecracker, which is why he was able to walk to his arraignment just days after "almost blowing up a plane."

I call HOAX. Designed to embarrass O, all it did was make the majority rally around him.

xbjllb

"FULL BODY SCANNERS ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE ME FEEL ANY SAFER WITH THESE IDIOTS IN CHARGE." - M/M

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They SHOULDN'T, ever. They will NEVER catch someone smuggling explosives onto a plane (or anywhere else) in body cavities or in their alimentary system, which is used by criminals and their significant others to smuggle ANYTHING and EVERYTHING into prison SEVERAL TIMES EACH HOUR. Nothing short of full x-ray scans (with all their radiation exposure, each flight?) can do that.

Put those ridiculously expensive scanners in every airport, and all you're going to get is smuggled photos of naked celebrities on the internet. As if we haven't been forced to see enough of Paris Hilton's hagged out bod already.

And of course, one or two ATA employee pedophiles' private kiddie porn collection surfacing a year or two hence.

Scanners are more of a hoax than the actual diaper bombing that's selling them.

Ummahgummah

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HAHAHA!!! The "majority" of LIEberal "who fly on private jets, like Al Frankenstein and chris Mathews and Olberbiteme.

If they had to go through what WE go through at airports just for the sake of THEIR political correctness!

Patting down wheelchair-bound American grandmothers is really effective in this war against.. what was it now.. whatchamacallit? Oh yeah! We can see how effective it all is when a Nigerian panty bomber can get on board with some older dude helping him at the point of departure. Funny how the older dude hasn't been talked about in the media!

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Ummahgummah

"TELL THEM MONICA!!!!!!THESE PEOPLE WANT TO KILL US!!!!!
THOSE PEOPLE ON THAT PLANE WERE LUCKY THAT THE PANTY BOMBER DIDNT BLOW THEM UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA DID NOTHING." - M/M

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And ****WHY*** do we STILL give them visas into our country??!!

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M/M

And ****WHY*** do we STILL give them visas into our country??!!.

Posted by: Ummah Gummah | January 09, 2010 at 03:16 PM
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BORDERS**************LANGUAGE**************CULTURE

xbjllb

"And ****WHY*** do we STILL give them visas into our country??!!" - Ummah

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Because "we" want them to do what they've been programmed to do;

Perpetuate the hoax of endless war.

Dgscol

Who is to blame for the economic crisis? Too many culprits to mention! Madoff took the hit for Wall St corruption - but hey that was scapegoating for sure, because insider trading, I believe, was rampant. That might be blamed on the intransigence of Martha Stewart.

No one is sure Washingtion is serious about reform. SO why not obtain a scapegoat from that arena, to demonstrate good faith and a break with the past? Surely there is one person, up the the gills in influence peddling, personal financial dealing, talking with the banking lobby, and internationalists, who has stated that Americans are uncompetitive and unneeded. Who could it be?

Ummahgummah

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BORDERS**************LANGUAGE**************CULTURE
POSTED BY: M/M | JANUARY 09, 2010 AT 03:18 PM

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That's my song!

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xbjllb

"That's my song!" - Ummah

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That and ""Die Amerikanski und den Juden Immer Vor Dem Auslander und den Muslim!"

M/M

A Republican might win "Ted the Red's seat in MA and there is no Republican running to challenge Kirsten Gillibrand.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/01/09/are-dems-this-worried-about-losing-the-massachusetts-special-election/

xbjllb

RE: TMG... wow. An entire half hour devoted to utterly useless back and forth how the rest of US history (at least the next FIFTY years) is going to play out as long as we pretend we DON'T have the answer to end this war and haven't had the answer ALL ALONG.

John! Pat! WAKE UP! We end THIS unwinnable war the same exact way we ended Viet Nam!

We get our troops out, we evacuate anyone smart enough to leave (and this means out of Israel, Afghanistan, and Iraq) and we LEAVE THE AREA FOREVER. ALL the while finding something to burn instead of oil by spending money on an answer to oil instead of enriching offense contractors!

JUST like we did with Viet Nam. Did the North Vietnamese come after us? Did they invade the US? Did they enslave us under Communism? Or did they just go back to rebuilding their destroyed country?

Why is the ABSOLUTE NEED TO undo 1948 which caused all the Islamic Extremist Response in the first place so impossible to understand? Furthermore, how much LONGER is this PREPOSTEROUS UNWINNABLE WAR going to be allowed to continue? Until Liz Cheney thinks SHE'S rich enough? How about HER misbegotten progeny?

I'm sorry John, waiting for Palestinians to outnumber Israeli Jews JUST ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH.

Demographics WON'T HAPPEN SOON ENOUGH. This stupid idiotic country will war every last day and continue to lose until that miraculous date far in the future.

IT MUST STOP NOW. GIVE PALESTINE BACK TO THE PALESTINIANS.

AND GET THE HELL OUT OF THE MIDEAST FOREVER.

DJ

>>>Here is our future--forever--unless we renounce liberalism

Paul Nachman writes:

This photo of a TSA worker could be recaptioned, "Next! Bend over..."

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/015296.html


M/M

This photo of a TSA worker could be recaptioned, "Next! Bend over..."

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/015296.html

Posted by: DJ | January 10, 2010 at 06:02 AM
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And do you think anal searches would stop terrorism. NO. The problem is NOT SEARCHING US, the problem is THE GOVERNMENT IGNORES the RED FLAGS. The 9/11 highjackers were give VISAs, the Ft.Hood Shooter did everything short of sending out a video and people ignored him, and the panty bomber is given a VISA even after his own father reports him.

BORDERS ****** LANGUAGE *******CULTURE

Even if they found something, they would still probably let the terrorists on the plane. Meanwhile, the rest of us continue to be inconvenienced.

DJ

Even if they found something, they would still probably let the terrorists on the plane. Meanwhile, the rest of us continue to be inconvenienced.

Posted by: M/M | January 10, 2010 at 06:53 AM

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That's right, M/M! Like the heading of the comment I linked to states: "Here is our future--forever--unless we renounce liberalism"

Unless we can defeat liberalism first, moooslim terrorists will have free reign to continue to wreak havoc in the West. White-liberals (using white and liberal in the same sentence is a bit redundant since whites are the only race foolish enough to willingly adhere to such suicidal nonsense) stand in the way of dealing with moooslims in an effective way -- such as not letting them into our country until they get their collective act together.

M/M, did you read what Auster said? He gets to the heart of the matter:

>>LA writes:

"Mr. Nachman is referring to the likelihood that the next method of the Islamic terrorists will be to hide explosives inside their anal cavity, as happened recently in an assasination attempt against a Saudi prince; which, in keeping with the Richard Reid Principle (Reid had explosives in his shoe, therefore all of us must take off our shoes in airports in perpetuity), will require all of us to have our anal cavity searched in airports in perpetuity.
I repeat what I have said before: if there were virtually no Muslims residing among us and traveling in our country, as was the case until 40 years ago, the constant threat of Islamic terrorism would not exist and the need for humiliating and demoralizing security measures to fend it off would not exist. All of this absurd nightmare is due to the fact that Muslims now reside in the West in significant numbers. Without believing Muslims among us, there would be no Muslim sharia proponents, no Muslim jihadists, and no Muslim terrorists among us. Yet--because of the liberal belief, accepted by virtually all people in our society, that we must never make any negative generalizations about a nonwhite or non-Western group, no matter how unassimilable or dangerous it may be--no one ever notices this screamingly obvious fact."


http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/015296.html

rickswrite

Sigh...must i say it; must it be said AGAIN! Our pulling out of Vietnam did NOT, I say again, did NOT stop the war. It only allowed the North Vietnamese Army to wage relentless war, unhindered, against the South. Then, even while rounding up tens of thousands of SV and putting them in Gulags the NVA turned right and went into Cambodia. Jesus Christ (and i mean this as a prayer) XB is so full of so many things he knows nothing about it would fill the Encyclopedia Brittanica. Semper Fidelis

xbjllb

"Sigh...must i say it; must it be said AGAIN! Our pulling out of Vietnam did NOT, I say again, did NOT stop the war." - Rickswrite

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Of course you're absolutely right. Why, the North Vietnamese immediately embarked on a course of war with the US TO THIS DAY that culminated in the 9-11 attacks when 12 North Vietnamese guerillas took control of four jetliners and flew them into American targets, killing Americans on US soil. Why just Christmas day a 23 year old North Vietnamese guerilla with the help of Red China tried to blow up a jet!

WAKE UP!

Rick. Don't be an idiot. As far as the US is concerned, FROM THE DAY WE LEFT SAIGON there were NO HOSTILITIES WHATSOEVER with the North Vietnamese, and furthermore, NO CASUALTIES BY THEM AGAINST US and VICE VERSA.

To the point that tourist are welcomed there, with open arms today. Viet Nam is BEGGING America to visit with their tourist dollars.

THAT, my friend, is the TEXTBOOK DEFINITION of the END OF WAR BETWEEN THE US AND VIET NAM and REAL PEACE. What happened after we left was THEIR PROBLEM and guess what? They WORKED IT OUT and FASTER than we EVER WOULD HAVE HAD WE STAYED.

And the same EXACT THING WILL happen in the Mideast, AS SOON AS WE FOLLOW NIXON'S LEAD and EXAMPLE. There is NO difference whatsoever!

No. You historical revisionists have had the last lie you're going to have on Viet Nam.

THE WORLD NOW HAS THE ANSWER TO ENDING, AND THEREFORE WINNING, THE WAR ON TERROR FOR ALL SIDES. ALL sides.

And no amount of shell game sidestepping subject changing is going to negate it this time.

GOD BLESS RICHARD NIXON WHO NOT ONLY ENDED THE WAR ON VIET NAM, HE GAVE US THE ANSWER TO THE WAR ON TERROR!

xbjllb

And STRANGELY ENOUGH, it's EXACTLY what the overwhelming majority of Americans WANT; THE END OF THE WAR! And elected Obama to do IN THE FIRST PLACE.

However, Obama isn't Nixon the genius; so far he's LBJ the dumbas*s.

xbjllb

Let's look at it logically and calmly (I'll try not to type caps.)

1. It is only a matter of time before a terrorist organization or rogue terrorist gets hold of a nuclear weapon, dirty or otherwise, and sneaks it into the US and fires it off. Even if the US became a walled maximum security prison on lockdown, it would still happen as long as there was a motivation; determined criminals can and do sneak anything and everything into maximum security prisons hourly.

2. Remove the motivation. Evacuate all with the brains to leave Israel and its nuclear weapons, and give the land gratis back to the Palestinians. Repatriate the Israeli people to the US at US expense. Leave the Mideast forever and use the money spent enriching offense contractors to find alternatives to Mideast oil.

Not only is this the best and fastest answer to true and lasting peace (as was achieved with Viet Nam to this day), it is the only answer. Give people what they really want, what they've said from the beginning they really want (autonomy over their land and natural resources and an end to foreign military occupation by the US), and they will stop attacking you. Ignore everything else beyond that as BS propaganda. The overwhelming majority of Islam doesn't want a worldwide caliphate any more than North Vietnam/China wanted a worldwide communist empire. What they wanted from day one is imperialistic foreigners off their lands.

So get the hell out and take Israel with us.

Richard Nixon knew this. If he was alive today he'd be shouting it from the rooftops.

xbjllb

Geez, this idea just keeps getting better and better.

Throughout Florida, California, Nevada, there are MULTI-MILLIONS of empty foreclosed houses, sitting empty, slowly getting gutted by vandals, depreciating the real estate values of entire neighborhoods. Even when vultures swoop in and buy these places at pennies on the dollar, THERE IS NO ONE TO RENT THEM.

Work out a government loan program to buy these properties off the banks and give these houses to refugees from Israel (and the handful of US collaborators that need to get out of Afghanistan and Iraq and elsewhere in the Mideast.)

Once they get jobs and established (and they will), they can pay the gov back. Not only does this solve the real estate crisis by getting several millions of foreclosed properties off the books, it effectively stops the decline in entire neighborhoods and starts increases in values again.

End the war and stop the real estate debacle at the same time.

And of course, ending the war frees up trillions of dollars to repair infrastructure at home, start up new factories with millions of new American jobs. Once Big Business is prohibited from offsourcing, which it desperately needs to be.

Good grief, it would be SO easy to turn this country into the relative nirvana of post-war suburban peacetime 1950's America once again.

IF we can keep cutting through the BS of offense contractors screaming "BUT THEY WANT US ALL DEAD!"

Offense contractors, maybe. And on that every American needs to agree.

xbjllb

You could move entire Israeli factories with all their workers to Detroit to rebuild it from the ground up.

Doesn't Israel have an automotive industry?

There IS a way to really come out on top as the world's number one manufacturer again if this is worked right.

Already we've discovered a way to deliver electric power through the air... no delivery infrastructure. Demonstrated at CES in Las Vegas.

If we find an alternative to oil, and are FIRST on it, we could find a way to deliver power to the rest of the planet. Why isn't the Midwest and western desert already covered with windfarms? What about tidal farming?

The answer to progress, real progress, is innovation. Thinking. Solving problems the way we used to, the way smarter people who've gone before have solved them.

Like Nixon.

And cutting through the BS of people with agenda lying through their teeth about everything to protect their status quo.

Sometimes we act and behave like we're the first people ever having to deal with such problems.

We're not. We just forgot how Americans in the past solved them.

With a TON of "help" at forgetting.

DJ

"2. Remove the motivation. Evacuate all with the brains to leave Israel and its nuclear weapons, and give the land gratis back to the Palestinians. Repatriate the Israeli people to the US at US expense. Leave the Mideast forever and use the money spent enriching offense contractors to find alternatives to Mideast oil." (--xbjllb)

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I don't know very much about Judaism, so correct me if I'm wrong. But it seems to me your solution is a non-starter. I say that because you are in effect asking Jews to renounce their religion. I.e., by the very fact they leave Israel, aren't they giving up the on the vision of building the Third Temple on the Temple Mount? Do you really think the Jews will just go along with what you propose?

xbjllb

'Monica,

Excellent article. I agree that Planet Janet is completely out of touch with what is happening in the real world (here on planet Earth). This administration needs to stop treating these terrorists as criminals. This is what Clinton did and we all know how that worked out. The underwear bomber should have been dragged from that airplane, thrown into the back of a military transport and then water boarded until we got all the information we needed to get the rest of his fellow terrorist.
To answer your question, no I don't feel safer with this crew in charge of American security. It is only a matter of time before one of these terrorists is able to achieve there [sic] goal. The terrorist have nothing to fear they will be treated like rock stars if they are caught. This president is a joke and the world knows it. 2012 can not come fast enough. I just hope we can survive that long." - Marc Digiamberdine

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Speaking of spoonfed regurgitated offense-contractor BS working to make Americans forget every possible solution that WORKED PERFECTLY in the past...

Including Nixon's ending of our war with Viet Nam!

Hey Marc. You forgot... "THEY WANT US ALL DEAD."

P.S. Marc, we GOT all the info we were going to get out of the diaper bomber, without waterboarding him. All waterboarding would have accomplished is he would have admitted he shot JFK. And Lincoln.

But you see, waterboarding isn't about getting truth; it's about getting poor schmucks to confess to Cheney's crimes. And everything else.

xbjllb

"I don't know very much about Judaism, so correct me if I'm wrong. But it seems to me your solution is a non-starter. I say that because you are in effect asking Jews to renounce their religion. I.e., by the very fact they leave Israel, aren't they giving up the on the vision of building the Third Temple on the Temple Mount? Do you really think the Jews will just go along with what you propose?" - DJ

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The ones with any brains will (like their relatives, and mine, who were lucky and smart enough to come to the US in the first place to make far, far better lives.) The ones who choose to stay can stay, under Palestinian rule.

Much like the white South Africans who stayed under Mandela.

It would be up to the Palestinians to decide whether or not they'd be gracious and grateful enough to let a temple be built.

Myself? I'd much rather NOT see it built, as it's a stage set for Armageddon according to Revelations. No Temple, no antiChrist, no abomination of desolation, no ARMAGEDDON. Not this century around, anyway.

Works for me.

SHOULD work for the rest of the sane planet. Even if it's all "just an ancient story." The parallels are too close to keep a prudent world from thinking twice about allowing such a thing.

Am I working to actually KEEP Christ from His Second Coming?

Not at all. I'm working to keep Him from coming back ENRAGED.

I'd much rather He come back THRILLED that SOMEBODY figured it out and averted Armageddon.

So should everybody.

xbjllb

If the Jewish People really feel they need a worldwide temple, they can build it anywhere in the US. Zion is anywhere where they are gathered together, not a bloodsoaked piece of ground in the Mideast that Christ Himself personally told them to give back, 2000 years ago.

xbjllb

"If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, it's yours forever. If it doesn't, then it was never meant to be." - anon


“You have heard that the Law Of Moses says ‘If an eye is injured, injure the eye of the person who did it. If a tooth gets knocked out, knock out the tooth of the person who did it.’ But I say, don’t resist an evil person! If you are slapped on the right cheek, turn the other, too. If you are ordered to court and your shirt is taken from you, give your coat, too. If a [enemy] soldier demands that you carry his gear for a mile, carry it two miles.”
MATTHEW 5:38-41

“You have heard that the law of Moses says ‘Love your neighbor’ and hate your enemy. But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you!” (Some manuscripts add “Bless those who curse you; do good to those that hate you.”) which ties in with the Luke account.
MATTHEW 5:43-44

“But if you are willing to listen, I say, love your enemies. Pray for the happiness of those that curse you. Pray for those who hurt you. If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn the other cheek. If someone demands your coat, offer your shirt also. Give what you have to anyone who asks for it; and when things are taken away from you, don’t try to get them back. Do for others as you would like them to do for you.”
LUKE 6: 27-35

“If you give, you will receive. Your gift will return to you in full measure, pressed down, shaking together to make room for more, and running over.”
LUKE 6:38

M/M

DJ,

These people want to kill us. While our government continues to drop the ball and ignore the threat, they will find creative ways to get us. A caller told Savage that all you have to do is put a terrorist who is infected with a contagious disease on a plane and there is your weapon.

But, of course, no one seems to want to take this threat seriously.

xbjllb

"These people want to kill us." - M/M

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Absolutely. Until our government leaves the Mideast and takes Israel with us.

You'd want the same too if the situation was reversed.

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"While our government continues to drop the ball and ignore the threat, they will find creative ways to get us." - M/M

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Absolutely. We'd better find a way to give them what they want ASAP. Since they only want what we'd want if we were in their shoes.

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"But, of course, no one seems to want to take this threat seriously." - M/M

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Worse yet, no one seems to want to take the answer seriously.

Maybe the answer is NO ONE wants this war to end.

Not really.

xbjllb

Running a business name by the good folks here:

LOOSE CANNON & ASSOCIATES POLITICAL CONSULTING
(Non-partisan)

$1000/hour sound good? Anyone know what Karl Rove charges?

Dgscol

We are all aware of lead in children's toys and other toxic chemicals that influence pregnancy. We have been subjected to these products for a long time, and the WTO was set up in such a fashion that these products were not testable. This ought to have been a crime. And not having a comprehensive test program today, is certainly negligence. I have heard that we are exposed to 70,000 noxous substances that are unchecked, and may pose a serious risk to our health.

Here is the thing. We all have understood that the Chinese are overpopulated, and the Chinese goverment has also acknowledged this by instituting its one child policy, and now has sex education that includes family planning. Here is the thing. Many Chinese did not like the policies of the state. The question is "Did the Chinese workers intentionally lace products with toxic substances that harm our mothers and children, possibly in retaliation? The answer is clearly "YES", but it was treated as an oversight by a company, or a hostile criminal act by an individual, when discovered. Furthermore, the Chinese government may have placed these chemicals into the work environment to intentionally make Chinese women infertile.

Even today, we have no recourse, no testing program, no doctors aware of toxic products and their symptoms - besides melamine and lead. If individuals are harmed, there is no way to get compensated.

xbjllb

Truther, the Chinese have been waging a secret war with us by posioning products for a very long time. Anyone remember the Wal-mart toy that clearly said "I hate you"?

It's funny but then not so funny. If one takes account all the stone products from China that might have been irradiated prior to shipment, we're talking about a great toil in human life.

The solution is simple; stop all outsourcing and limit all imports. Force Big Business to create all products that Americans need in American factories. Force Big Box retailers to only carry American-made products.

That is the only way to stop the first world from becoming the third world.

Protectionist isolationist policies? By all means. The horrifically detrimental result of not having them is obvious by now.

Just another reason you want the party NOT the favorite of Big Business and deregulation in majority power.

Ever.

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