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September 09, 2009

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Phil Wedeen

The insanity of blind ideological fervour continues unabaited at the coffee-table book club:

" An interesting new point about the man who Obama embraced warmly during his visit to Latin America: Hugo Chavez, reportedly, as part of his cooperation with Iran's nuclear-arming mullah regime, is welcoming jihadists. These jihadists are to go into the jungles and forests and convert the indios to Islam. It's something like the work being done by muslims in US prisons today. In fact Obama's new czar star, Van Jones (recently "resigning," of course) was reportedly deeply influenced when he was in prison). Barack Hussein Obama, as a Harvard grad, can tell you that Hugo Chavez has legal sovereign rights. These would include the right to help convert the indio population to the jihadi faith and its war against the infidels, especially against 'the Great Satan.'

These law grads know what to say and what not to say, especially with a teleprompter. The ex-Barry Soetoro has a special talent for this, able to sound "cool" and make opponents sound "square." The young find this very, very impressive. "

Indios to Islam! Directed in Washington DC.
Wow.

Phil Wedeen

Quote:
Originally Posted by UK Glenmont
wasnt he [Dostoyevsky] a cold warrior or am i thinking of somebody else?


GRINGOMAN////Dostoyevsky lived in Tsarist Russia. He wrote what has been called the greatest political novel ever, THE POSSESSED (1872), about the libs and progressives and nihilists and "inept" conservatives of his day---a book which nobody has time to read anymore.

His warnings went unheeded. A half century later: Goodbye old Russia, hello Bolshevik Revolution, its tentacles still living after the Soviet demise, even today, world-wide, sometimes even in a "cool" reincarnation.
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Posted by: gringoman | September 09, 2009 at 01:18 PM

Mirror, mirror, on the wall; who's the fairest Gringo of all?

So what is the point of this little discussion that Gringoman is carrying on with himself?
Wingnut #1 doesn't know Russian literature while Wingnut #2 thinks that Dostoevsky is somehow instructive to the current political debate.
Narcissism (look at me I read old novels) or just pettifoggery (when it comes to current public policy Doestevsky was like Nostradamus).
One would hasten to say that Gringoman is full of manure when in fact he is being full of himself.

The unanswered question posed is whether UK Glenmont the illiterate is aware of this coffee-table scholars library; a table brimming with tomes, so much so that Dostoevsky is forced to lay on the floor locked in an erotic embrace with his 21st Century paramour.
This Russian steed, a shirtless Putin, rides roughshod into the nearly empty pantheon of right-wing novelists inhabiting the literary heart of a perambulating Gringoman. There is Mishima, Hahn, a manly sonnet or two from Shakespeare... and now Dostoevsky. Other than that, maybe a few tomes from antiquity where love for fellow men are debated in terms of agape and eros...
The desert which makes up the fascists literary landscape can easily be cataloged on a coffee-table; and dispensed to the unwashed as erudition.
Gringoman wants us to know that he deserves and takes full credit.


Dgscol

Out West, banks are destroying brand new model homes. The claim is being made that taxes and maintenance are too expensive. The actual reason is that empty houses depress the value of other houses. The operating principle here ought to be supply and demand that determines price, not intentionally creating a rarified market to maintain high prices, leaving people who need homesout of the picture. There should be a law preventing this.

gringoman

Gringoman wants us to know that he deserves and takes full credit.


Posted by: Phil Wedeen | September 09, 2009 at 05:33 PM

Forsooth, yon idiot PW Cyberstalker, skulking here again from his, it would seem, lonely lair up in Montreal's Quartier des Kooks, first mangling the immortal "reactionary" Fyodor Mikhailovitch Dostoyevsky and thence, to confirm the depths of his pseudo-intellect and "savoir" litteraire aussi de Shakespeare, pumps out yet another dose of his malaise---all sound and fury, signifying nothing but leftniki agitpoop.

Or is he just the latest example of Canada's medical care?

Phil Wedeen

Out West, banks are destroying brand new model homes. The claim is being made that taxes and maintenance are too expensive. The actual reason is that empty houses depress the value of other houses. The operating principle here ought to be supply and demand that determines price, not intentionally creating a rarified market to maintain high prices, leaving people who need homesout of the picture. There should be a law preventing this.


Posted by: Truther | September 09, 2009 at 06:18 PM


Truther is saying, 'Give me a home where the buffalo roam, but I mean just that: Give it to me'.

gringoman

The insanity of blind ideological fervour continues unabaited at the coffee-table book club:

" An interesting new point about the man who Obama embraced warmly during his visit to Latin America: Hugo Chavez, reportedly, as part of his cooperation with Iran's nuclear-arming mullah regime, is welcoming jihadists. These jihadists are to go into the jungles and forests and convert the indios to Islam. It's something like the work being done by muslims in US prisons today. In fact Obama's new czar star, Van Jones (recently "resigning," of course) was reportedly deeply influenced when he was in prison). Barack Hussein Obama, as a Harvard grad, can tell you that Hugo Chavez has legal sovereign rights. These would include the right to help convert the indio population to the jihadi faith and its war against the infidels, especially against 'the Great Satan.'

These law grads know what to say and what not to say, especially with a teleprompter. The ex-Barry Soetoro has a special talent for this, able to sound "cool" and make opponents sound "square." The young find this very, very impressive. "

Indios to Islam! Directed in Washington DC.
Wow.

Posted by: Phil Wedeen | September 09, 2009 at 05:29 PM

As we know, DJ has traced the progressive PW Cyberstalker to the MOntreal firm of Howard, Fineman and Howard.

I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace, two men are called a law firm....

-- John Adams, in the play "1776"


gringoNOTE: 'Disgrace' is a bit harsh, no? What about a synonym, 'Cyberstalker'?

gringoman

Ohio, we hear, (along with Florida and Texas) is "on fire."


INTERNET//////originally posted by uk glenmont


tim grendell, ohio state senator,

"i did not grow up in a socialist country, and i will not die in a socialist country. And neither will my grand children"

uk glenmont/////i think i found voinovichs replacement

gringoNOTE: Does Grendellfavor extraditing neo-com cyberstalkers from People's Canada?

Phil Wedeen

Gringoman! That was YOU who wrote that Chavez enables Islam by allowing the Indios to be converted by jihadists?
I can't believe it! Even I tought you had a tight screw or two left...

But 'lo, mind your codpiece, a shirtless Putin approaches on horseback!

gringoman

DAVID HOROWITZ////Liberal racists believe that neutral and objective tests for college admissions are actually rigged in favor of whites. When Asians, many of them recent immigrants with little or no cultural experience, refute this notion by outscoring whites on these tests, liberal racists say that these Asians are not really a minority at all but inauthentic, imitation whites.

DJ,

Exactly what Gringobro and me have been saying all along. Good for David Horowitz.

(Too bad he sounds like the progs when it comes to the ex-Barry Soetoro's identity.)

gringoman

COCO TO DIALOGUE WITH AHMADOOJIHAD?



Pakistani Scientist Cites Help to Iran
Official Aid for Nuclear Program Claimed
By R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 9, 2009

The creator of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons program boasted in a recent television interview that he and other senior Pakistani officials, eager to see Iran develop nuclear weapons, years ago guided that country to a proven network of suppliers and helped advance its covert efforts.

A.Q. Khan, whom Washington considers the world’s most ambitious proliferator of nuclear weapons technology, told a television interviewer in Karachi, Pakistan, that if Iran succeeds in "acquiring nuclear technology, we will be a strong bloc in the region to counter international pressure. Iran’s nuclear capability will neutralize Israel’s power."

gringoman

Gringoman! That was YOU who wrote that Chavez enables Islam by allowing the Indios to be converted by jihadists?
I can't believe it! Even I tought you had a tight screw or two left...

But 'lo, mind your codpiece, a shirtless Putin approaches on horseback!

Posted by: Phil Wedeen | September 09, 2009 at 08:01 PM

Does PW Cyberstalker wish to be taken more seriously than the gofer at Montreal's Howard, Fine & Howard? If so,

1. Even though he won't confirm or deny ACLU affiliation, he will have to confirm or deny that Chavez is welcoming the conversion of indios in Venezuela.

2. If he is able to do that, his ability to reason like an adult homo sapien can be further tested.

gringoman

COCO CRASHING?

By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer Alan Fram, Associated Press Writer – Wed Sep 9, 4:31 pm ET

WASHINGTON – Public disapproval of President Barack Obama's handling of health care has jumped to 52 percent, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll released hours before he makes his case for overhaul in a prime-time address to Congress.

With his health revamp moving slowly and unemployment edging ever higher, Obama's overall approval rating has also suffered a blow. The survey showed that 49 percent now disapprove of how he is handling his job as president, up from 42 percent who disapproved in July.

The grade people give Obama on health care also has worsened since July, when just 43 percent disapproved of his work on the issue.

Ummahgummah

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Obviously Weeseldeen doesn't have any FACTS on his side so he is busy with his ad hominems.

Of course the shitbag loves the fact that Chavez is inviting islamofascists to 'convert' local Indios to their perverted cult of Pigslam.

Anyhing that is bad for the West is good for Global Communism and thus good for Comrade Fleabag Weeseldeen.

GIT LOST COMMIE BASTARD!!

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tonky

Lady,

The Iraq War and Bush's Tax Cuts for the Wealthy both cost more than Obama health care reform is going to cost.

Alan Colmes the dope schooled your sorry self on O'Reilly. I feel bad for your children.

Tonky

Dgscol

There is no doubt a good health care bill will be adopted. After all free speech is intact and there are ten lobbyists on every legislator, who might be free to take then out to eat and on vacation trips. They will get so wasted from sporting, drinking, and eating out, they will
become familiar with all health care limitations.

Many of us are hoping for real change, but there is social inertia that is impeding real change. A free press and a true republic are necessary. The erosion of the free press is a result of campaign money to networks who carry ads. In addition many in the press were given lucrative speaking fees
A new wrinkle is to develop contacts as a correspondent and then go into lobbying, representing the people you know from reporting. One rather odd version of this is Andrea Koppel, who was CNN foreign correspondent in Beijing. She now works a a lobbyist, apparently representing Chinese interests with Congressmen. I am not sure if that should even be legal. Having Congressmen represent the needs of their consituents is what we hope for, colonies should work through the companies that are based here in the US. If the Chinese government wants to consult our government, they are supposed to interact with the president or the state department - not Andrea. This is a subversion of our process. If Andrea wants to represent Chinese interests at the UN, I have no trouble with that. I guess you cannot blame Andrea for exploiting the situation in Washington exactly. Perhaps she should lobby Rockafeller/Rothschild people in Switzerland, but she should not be trying to corrupt our legislators. It is a violation of our soveignty.

Just as doctors say they would like incentives to limits medical costs, perhaps the press ought to have incentives to maintain a focussed, purified press that hits the standards taught in journalism school.

I am dropping this on little Monica and for this I do not apologize, because I trust her. She has the ear of Kissinger.

www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000024905025

Why do you care nothing for others or their life needs? What is it about you and your chronies, that pushes you to think ONLY/WORK ONLY for your own tiny, self-serving little lives and others who have tiny, self-serving little lives?? Christian principals teach us to look out for others in need, particularly those that involve life/death, health, wellbeing. Yet, you are outspokenly opposed to this. Sad, but, I guess you are an athiest. I don't really know. Just, your behaviors are far from Christian or even of God. SAD for you, in the long run. May God forgive your selfish, self-serving ways.

gringoman

COCO LOGIC

(From Sept. 09 health care speech)

"And I will make sure that no government bureaucrat or insurance company bureaucrat gets between you and the care that you need."

gringoNOTE: What is this? Does anyone know? What is COCO saying? Some possibilities....

1. COCO himself, transcending the bureaucrats, will intervene personally in your case?

2. Instead of bureaucrats, an Army of Soros workers will "get between you and the care you need"?

3. COCO, as when he rejected the "Death Panels" charge, has found a way, as he said, to "partner with God"?

4. COCO will bypass the bureaucrats by using aliens to "get between you and the care you need"?

5. COCO has a secret plan that "will make sure that no government bureaucrat or insurance company bureaucrat gets between you and the care that you need." You'll find out what it is after the Democrats and Olympia Snowe take the Government Option and agree to hide it, for now, where the sun doesn't shine.

6. COCO has found a way not to use an army of bureaucrats. He'll use an army of 'Obamacare-givers' who will have possession of your health records and tax records. This will save you from the Insurance company bureaucrats.

7. COCO is speaking an unusual language: Harvard Affirmative Actionese. Wait for translation.

8. Your thoughts on what COCO means.

gringoman

Why do you care nothing for others or their life needs? What is it about you and your chronies, that pushes you to think ONLY/WORK ONLY for your own tiny, self-serving little lives and others who have tiny, self-serving little lives?? Christian principals teach us to look out for others in need, particularly those that involve life/death, health, wellbeing. Yet, you are outspokenly opposed to this. Sad, but, I guess you are an athiest. I don't really know. Just, your behaviors are far from Christian or even of God. SAD for you, in the long run. May God forgive your selfish, self-serving ways.

Posted by: Karen Lewis | September 09, 2009 at 09:55 PM

May God forgive the sanctimonious socialists. It must be difficult sometimes, as when they cheered the exit of the US "imperialists" from Cambodia and the liberation of the Cambodian people into the waiting hands of the Khmer Rouge. They were so proud of what they had done for those people. Some were even Christian do-gooders. Too bad we didn't get to see their earnest, charitable faces years later, in the "THE KILLING FIELDS." That might have added something even more to an already powerful film.

gringoman

PROFESSOR ANN ALTHOUSE (She voted for Obama)


Watching Obama's speech.
I'm pretty bored by the prospect of another speech, but I did set the DVR to record. I guess it's on now, right? Okay. I'll check it out. Meanwhile, please blab in the comments to make up for my dullness, if you've got any energy around this.

ADDED: But you know, it's the season premiere of "America's Next Top Model." What was Obama thinking?! With all the networks showing Prez O, how many people are flocking to the feet of the great Tyra Banks?

AND: Blah! O's speech. It looks like a State of the Union Address. That seems so wrong. The whole first 15 minutes — the length of a speech to schoolkids — are consumed with various political entities filing in, congressional pageantry, and adulation of the executive.

AND: "Oh! They're wasting time standing up. What bullshit." I'm irritated as hell by the standing ovations. I can't believe anyone is watching.

Labels: boring Obama speech, Obama's health

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gringoman

Wednesday, September 09, 2009

Thomas Friedman is a Liberal Fascist [Jonah Goldberg]

Mark beat me to it, but I must put in my two cents. Thomas Friedman writes:

Watching both the health care and climate/energy debates in Congress, it is hard not to draw the following conclusion: There is only one thing worse than one-party autocracy, and that is one-party democracy, which is what we have in America today.

One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century. It is not an accident that China is committed to overtaking us in electric cars, solar power, energy efficiency, batteries, nuclear power and wind power. China’s leaders understand that in a world of exploding populations and rising emerging-market middle classes, demand for clean power and energy efficiency is going to soar. Beijing wants to make sure that it owns that industry and is ordering the policies to do that, including boosting gasoline prices, from the top down.

Our one-party democracy is worse....

So there you have it. If only America could drop its inefficient and antiquated system, designed in the age before globalization and modernity and, most damning of all, before the lantern of Thomas Friedman's intellect illuminated the land. If only enlightened experts could do the hard and necessary things that the new age requires, if only we could rely on these planners to set the ship of state right. Now, of course, there are "drawbacks" to such a system: crushing of dissidents with tanks, state control of reproduction, government control of the press and the internet. Omelets and broken eggs, as they say. More to the point, Friedman insists, these "drawbacks" pale in comparison to the system we have today here in America.

I cannot begin to tell you how this is exactly the argument that was made by American fans of Mussolini in the 1920s. It is exactly the argument that was made in defense of Stalin and Lenin before him (it's the argument that idiotic, dictator-envying leftists make in defense of Castro and Chavez today). It was the argument made by George Bernard Shaw who yearned for a strong progressive autocracy under a Mussolini, a Hitler or a Stalin (he wasn't picky in this regard). This is the argument for an "economic dictatorship" pushed by Stuart Chase and the New Dealers. It's the dream of Herbert Croly and a great many of the Progressives.

I have no idea why I still have the capacity to be shocked by such things. A few years ago, during the worst part of the Iraq war, I wrote a column saying that Iraq needed a Pinochet type to bring order to Iraq and help develop democratic and liberal institutions. To this day, I get vicious hate mail from liberal and leftist readers for my "pro-dictator" stance. Meanwhile, Thomas Friedman, golden boy of the NYT op-ed page, is writing love-letters to dictatorships because they have the foresight to invest in electric batteries and waterless toilets or something. It looks like there's reason to hope I was wrong about Iraq (I certainly hope I was). But at least I favored a dictatorship of sorts — for another country! — because I thought it would lead to a liberal democracy. Here, Friedman lives in a liberal democracy but has his nose pressed up against the candy store window of a cruel, undemocratic, regime and all he can do is drool over the prospect of having the same power here. It's disgusting.

EminemsRevenge

Guess what Fox "news" housenigro [Hint: http://www.marclamonthill.com/ ] is adverse to a little TRUTH: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/rip_up_this_awful_plan_rewrite_it_ITw66b2pn3f0XpJXnOqYDJ

And i QUOTE:
Who are the truly uninsured?

According to the US Census, 47 million people say they are uninsured. But 14 million are already eligible for government programs such as Medicaid or SCHIP (for children) and simply haven't signed up. Another 10 million have household incomes over $75,000.

That leaves 23.7 million people who probably can't afford insurance. However, an estimated 12 million of these people are newcomers to the United States, many here illegally.

The largest influx of immigrants in any seven years in American history occurred in the present decade. In this same decade, the lion's share of the increase in uninsured took place in the five border states.

In tough times, its fair to look out for our own first, which means helping about 12 million Americans.

Covering them is affordable, especially because many are young, and others are uninsured temporarily, less than a year.

Thirdly, the president should announce that he will divert the unused stimulus funds to this purpose.

There's enough in the pot -- over $500 billion to cover these 12 million for the next decade.

Phil Wedeen

I'm not sure if he'll have enough spleen left over for anyone using "his" coinage of "neo-coms." And I applaud his using it. He might well be the first "high profile" to use it, so I'll credit him with that. In the "big time," who gives anybody else credit for anything? That's how the game works---and not just in the "big time." Posted by: gringoman | September 09, 2009 at 10:03 AM ps I'm still waiting to see if Monica will let Limbaugh or Sean or Mark Levin beat her out with the use of 'Liberal Racist,'---yes, even if, as DJ seems to document, David Horowitz was the very first ever to use the term. (And I thank DJ for producing that, even though I still have some questions about it.) But I came up with 'Coco' too.

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Did you come up with 'coon'? They all use it and hell you guys have been around forever. Maybe DJ can do some research and confirm which of you coined the term. I don't think Horowitz was the very first to use the term. Beck? Levin? "I'd applaud them using it." In the "big time," who gives anybody else credit for anything? That's how the game works---and not just in the "big time."
Kudos to you (narcissist: "even though I have some questions about it" and then doesn't ask them)?

Your honest answer is advised.

DJ

DAVID HOROWITZ////Liberal racists believe that neutral and objective tests for college admissions are actually rigged in favor of whites. When Asians, many of them recent immigrants with little or no cultural experience, refute this notion by outscoring whites on these tests, liberal racists say that these Asians are not really a minority at all but inauthentic, imitation whites.

DJ,

Exactly what Gringobro and me have been saying all along. Good for David Horowitz.

(Too bad he sounds like the progs when it comes to the ex-Barry Soetoro's identity.)

Posted by: gringoman | September 09, 2009 at 08:05 PM


Gringoman,

I think most NORMAL people have been saying those things all along, but you'd never know it by watching the PC boob tube. The entertainment/advertisement industry constantly slimes its audience with "anti-racist", i.e., anti-white propaganda 24/7. As for Horowitz, he's pretty good on the race issue; however, as you've cited, he's sorely lacking in other areas such as Barry Soetoro's birth certificate ....

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Here's Jason Mattera going undercover at a libtard Obamacare rally. PW would have felt right at home there amongst his commie-comrade-misfits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NkoWIH8_wA

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