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August 26, 2009

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Ree

Quote of the Day on Hot Air: If they get to talk about Camelot, we get to talk about the lady in the lake.

http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/08/imus-to-leave-rfd-tv-last-program.html

gringoman

Quote of the Day on Hot Air: If they get to talk about Camelot, we get to talk about the lady in the lake.

http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/08/imus-to-leave-rfd-tv-last-program.html

Posted by: Ree | August 26, 2009 at 02:05 PM

Very good.

Rush Limbaugh had a pretty good one today too. He expounded on a gringomanic theme broached here yesterday and did it very well indeed (unlike Republicans lite.) I asked why not focus on Kennedy to highlight the differences between Obamacare and Congresscare.

Rush did an excellent job in analyzing 'Tedcare' and how different it is from what the stealth socialists plan to harness on everyone else: Big Government's Obamacare.

xbjllb

Jackie Kennedy, invent Camelot? You've GOT to be kidding.

Remember, when JFK climbed on Marilyn Monroe, it was because he was looking for a blond Jackie, only with a brain.

No, the blame for Camelot goes to a mainstream media who, in lust with JFK, did everything in their power to shield him from scandal. A turn of historical events that we thought we'd never see again with the rise of tabloid journalism, only until BHO hit the White House, and once again the press tore off its clothes, groveled and fell all over itself using their own writhing naked bodies to cover up the truth about and physically shield BHO from his Kenyan toes to his Larry Sinclair fellated penis to his crack-smoking mouth to the top of his CIA bureaucrat head.

No, Jackie redecorated the White House in a cheap TV special they should have used film for but instead chose horrific infantile tech videotape, gave the world a couple of clothes designers that even Warrior Princess favors the styles of now and again, and brought the country out of the silly 1950's into the chic early 60's. And none of the Kennedy's were perfect, but strangely enough, were probably real Catholics since each one of them had karma catch up with them, sooner rather than later, unlike a large group of GOP war criminals I could name.

I do think it's a shame that CIAObama had to microwave the tumor into Kennedy's brain to get the endorsement, and afterward just throw the useless used-up old man into the trash. But that's just how The CIA and Obama are. Even when trying to do the right thing, they somehow just never get the hang of how to do it right, and thereby never get how to do the right thing in the long run at all. The end never justifies the means, boys and girls. You have to do it the right way FROM DAY ONE. Or you're going to dig yourself a pit deeper than the one you're trying to get out of.

As far as cons pissing on Kennedy's grave? What else do you expect them to do; it's in their fallen, corrupt, pathetic nature. Really, they can't help themselves; they're the least in Lucifer's kingdom, the groveling little hobgoblins that are all that's left of formerly grand angels who have given themselves over to a purity of hatred that has consumed all of what they once were except for a mere molecule of coal. They only still exist because Lucifer hasn't yet been cutoff from a larger food supply.

gringoman

In an honest national health care debate, what's wrong with singling out an example that would bring the issues alive, and with startling clarity?

The elderly are now an epicenter of concern and controversy. The black panthers are even being upstaged by grey panthers. Obama, while hiding his own medical records, points an accusatory finger at greedy insurance companies, and even doctors who for money are looking to remove tonsils from innocent children. While Obama vacations at Cape Cod on Marxist Vineyard, the Right warns about stealth and increasingly not-so-stealth socialism.

So what's wrong with focusing on Senator Kennedy and his heroic battle with brain cancer? Wouldn't this case highlight for us the burning issues of Obamacare? It can do this even indirectly, assuming that Kennedy, like all the DC pols, has CongressCare and wouldn't touch Obamacare for himself. In fact, this could be a wonderful chance to study the differences between Obamacare and Congresscare, How instructive!

Whatever Kennedy is getting can be compared to what he, and by extension we, would get with Obamacare, Obama Insurance, Obama Big Pharma etc. In the Senator's case the question of alleged "Death Panels' euthanasia, pulling the plug on him and all that, surely could highlight these deeply personal issues. Kennedy himself, as a final statesman-like gesture, in a moment of extraordinary magnanimity and consideration, asking what he can do for his country, might offer his case for the national microscope, as a Teaching Moment, in the finest tradition of Kennedy drama.

Of course, in the last analysis, one has to concede that the Republicans probably would not go there, despite temptation.

Would they, Monica?

Posted by: gringoman | August 24, 2009 at 10:28 PM

No, they would not, but Rush Limbaugh would, and he did. He did it today, comparing the Tedcare that Ted got, with the Obamacare they want for everyone else (except, of course, the Drones of Big Nanny and BigGovernment.)

ps But has anyone heard a single commentator today, Left or Right, make any mention of what is probably the single most significant thing that Senator Kennedy ever did for, or to, the US? That was the Immigration and Nationality Act of1965. Whether you support (like the Left and its Liberal Racists do) or oppose its severe limitation on European immigration, in the name of multi-racialism,(a prime goal of "progressives" who deny that their socially-engineered multi-racialism is itself another form of racism) the fact remains that Kennedy claimed that the Act would not "change" the "ethnic balance" of the country. i.e. Whether you believe that the US should be or should not be predominantly a white nation, you cannot deny that proponents like Kennedy were either lying or stupid in their claims that their Immigration Reform would not drastically change the US demographically. Like the Left's Liberal Racists, you can vilify anyone who even raises the question, but you still can't bury the point, not even in today's Politically Correct Republic.

gringoman

WHILE OBAMA CRIES TO DEAD TED:"HELP, BRO'!" ....

UK DAILY MAIL///////The babies born in hospital corridors: Bed shortage forces 4,000 mothers to give birth in lifts, offices and hospital toilets

By Jenny Hope and Nick Mcdermott
Last updated at 8:36 AM on 26th August 2009

Women are giving birth outside of the wards

Maternity crisis: Women are giving birth in lifts and even toilets

Thousands of women are having to give birth outside maternity wards because of a lack of midwives and hospital beds.

The lives of mothers and babies are being put at risk as births in locations ranging from lifts to toilets - even a caravan - went up 15 per cent last year to almost 4,000.

Health chiefs admit a lack of maternity beds is partly to blame for the crisis, with hundreds of women in labour being turned away from hospitals because they are full.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209034/The-babies-born-hospital-corridors-Bed-shortage-forces-4-000-mothers-birth-lifts-offices-hospital-toilets.html#ixzz0PJhuVkOB

Dgscol

Prominent neurosurgeons have stated they do not use cell phones held next to their ears. “I use it on the speaker-phone mode,” said Dr. Vini Khurana, a prominent researcher and an associate professor of neurosurgery at the Australian National University. “I do not hold it to my ear.” Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN’s chief medical correspondent and a neurosurgeon at Emory University Hospital admitted that, he too, used an earpiece.

The senator died from a glioma on the side of his head where he continually held his cellphone. Ironically, they enabled these cheap E-gadgets, manufactured by foreign workers that displaced US workers, and dumped on our shore with financial backing from banks using our retirement money. Now this has killed him. Bad karma.

DJ

'Chappaquiddick Ted' was such a "honorable" man they should reward him with a monument and situate it right in front of the Capital building for all to see. It should be made to look like him driving a car off a narrow bridge with his murder victim, Mary Jo Kopechne, at his side.

P.S.

Thanks for bringing up the Immigration Act of 1965, Gringoman. That was the single most destructive event that ensured America's decline into a majority non-White third-world cesspool. Way to go Ted.

DJ

That car plunging into the water can also be seen as a metaphor for what happened to this country when the Immigration Act of 1965 took effect.

gringoman

TWO NY TIMES OBITS: A STUDY IN SULBERGEROLOGY

Broder's obituary left room for the lowlights of Kennedy's career, including Mary Jo Kopechne's death at Chappaquiddick and Kennedy's ruthless personal attack on conservative Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork. But the opening paragraph offered a sharp contrast with another ideologically polarizing senator, Jesse Helms of North Carolina, who died on Independence Day last year. Broder's opening paragraph:

Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, a son of one of the most storied families in American politics, a man who knew triumph and tragedy in near-equal measure and who will be remembered as one of the most effective lawmakers in the history of the Senate, died late Tuesday night. He was 77.

Contrast that respectful tone with the snarling opening sentence from Steven Holmes' obituary for Sen. Jesse Helms on July 5, 2008, under the print edition headline "Jesse Helms, Unyielding Beacon of Conservatism, Is Dead at 86."

Jesse Helms, the former North Carolina senator whose courtly manner and mossy drawl barely masked a hard-edged conservatism that opposed civil rights, gay rights, foreign aid and modern art, died early Friday. He was 86.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2009/08/26/nyts-ted-kennedy-obit-avoids-jesse-helms-treatment

gringoman

Prominent neurosurgeons have stated they do not use cell phones held next to their ears. “I use it on the speaker-phone mode,” said Dr. Vini Khurana, a prominent researcher and an associate professor of neurosurgery at the Australian National University. “I do not hold it to my ear.” Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN’s chief medical correspondent and a neurosurgeon at Emory University Hospital admitted that, he too, used an earpiece.

The senator died from a glioma on the side of his head where he continually held his cellphone. Ironically, they enabled these cheap E-gadgets, manufactured by foreign workers that displaced US workers, and dumped on our shore with financial backing from banks using our retirement money. Now this has killed him. Bad karma.

Posted by: Truther | August 26, 2009 at 04:02 PM

Interesting.

Phil Wedeen

FALLING INTO THE NEO-CONSERVATIVE RABBIT HOLE or You need to know the difference between a conspiracy and a fact:

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"You need to understand the difference between a conspiracy and a fact.

When Obama--- unlike McCain who released hundreds of pages of his medical records--- refuses to release his own medical records, that is a fact. Whether it is also part of a conspiracy, we don't know. And a major reason why there can even be talk of a conspiracy, is the fact. The fact is that Obama has not done what holders of the highest office in the land do. He has not made his medical recordss available for inspection.

Same goes for Obama's school records, of course. Bush and Kerry both released their college transcripts, UNLIKE this new guy of "transparency" Barack Hussein Obama.

----

(Apparently, my god, the author is still alive and in the US; and living in a rabbit-hole)

The above article should get a Pulitzer Prize. Not since the SAIGON POST headlined the american victory in Vietnam on the very day that everyone had fled in panic has there been a piece of journaleeze quite like this one.

BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!!

DOUBLESPEAK #1


"This fact is so plain that it's amazing that anyone will still try to use Orwellian Doublespeak around it."


DOUBLESPEAK #2


"My God, are there still living beings in the US today who can Doublespeak around such a fact?"


TRIPLESPEAK!!!

"And a major reason why there can even be talk of a conspiracy, is the fact."

Right.

The neo-conservative rabbit hole:

Obama's Health; EXCELLENT!

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/05/obama_releases_health_informat.html

HIghlights:
*Triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.


Phil Wedeen

You need to understand the difference between a conspiracy and a fact.

When Obama--- unlike McCain who released hundreds of pages of his medical records--- refuses to release his own medical records, that is a fact. Whether it is also part of a conspiracy, we don't know. And a major reason why there can even be talk of a conspiracy, is the fact. The fact is that Obama has not done what holders of the highest office in the land do. He has not made his medical recordss available for inspection.

This fact is so plain that it's amazing that anyone will still try to use Orwellian Doublespeak around it.

Same goes for Obama's school records, of course. Bush and Kerry both released their college transcripts, UNLIKE this new guy of "transparency" Barack Hussein Obama.

My God, are there still living beings in the US today who can Doublespeak around such a fact?

--------

Yep! There sure are!!!!!

March 24, 2008

DAVID L. SCHEINER, M.D.
Hyde Park Associates in Medicine, Ltd.
1515 East 52nd Place, Chicago, IL 60615

To Whom It May Concern:

I am David L. Scheiner, a board certified general internist licensed to practice in the State of Illinois. I am on staff at the University of Chicago Hospitals and Rush University Medical Center. I have been Senator Barack Obama’s primary care physician since March 23, 1987. The following is a summary of his medical records for the past 21 years.

During that period of time, Senator Obama has been in excellent health. He has been seen regularly for medical checkups and various minor problems such as upper respiratory infections, skin rashes and minor injuries.

His family history is pertinent for his mother’s death from ovarian cancer and grandfather who died of prostate cancer. His own history included intermittent cigarette smoking. He has quit this practice on several occasions and is currently using Nicorette gum with success.

Senator Obama’s last medical checkup was on January 15, 2007; he had no complaints. He exercised regularly often jogging three miles. His diet was balanced with good intake of roughage and fluids. A complete review of systems was unremarkable. On physical examination, his blood pressure was 90/60 and pulse 60/minute. His build was lean and muscular with no excess body fat. His physical examination was completely normal.

Laboratory studies included triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.

In short, his examination showed him to be in excellent health. Senator Barack Obama is in overall good physical and mental health needed to maintain the resiliency required in the Office of President.

Sincerely,

David L. Scheiner, M.D.


Phil Wedeen

RABBIT-HOLE Gringo-LOGIC!!!!

These records are not authentic, nor are the ones released four months ago from Bethesda Naval Hospital.

Don't you know the difference between a conspiracy and a fact?

Phil Wedeen

On the passing of the late Sen Edward Kennedy it appears that some practice demogougery over civility:

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/142220/sarah_palin%27s_facebook_%27friends%27_celebrate_ted_kennedy%27s_death%3A_%22one_less_socialist%2C%22_%22good_riddens%22/

SARAH PALIN:
I would like to extend our sympathies to the Kennedy family as we hear word about the passing of Senator Ted Kennedy. He believed in our country and fought passionately for his convictions

Palin's minions:
thank you for maintaining my belief in you as a real american, however this country is now much better off, one less socialist, anti freedom senator."

"Now if we could just talk God into taking Arlin Spector, Harry Reid,and Nancy Pelosi America would be Eutopia!"

"good riddens"

"If he makes it into Heaven (& I doubt he will with his stance on abortion) I hope that God makes him babysit all the aborted children for eternity. God have mercy on his soul."

"Ted Kennedy dying has made my day...."

"He cannot fillibuster God. Good ridencance to a sorry person."

"It's about time, we can only hope Pelosi and Ried will be joining him very soon. All 3 of them should be buried in Moscow for whom they work so tirelessly."

... AND PERHAPS MY FAVORITE:

"Sarah - I need to contact you. I need to know how to fight this current govt. We must find a way to get them removed, standing by and watching all the evil occur, is like watching water run quickly down the drain, each of our freedoms gone daily. Please advise me what direction to take my group. Thank you"


Phil Wedeen

That car plunging into the water can also be seen as a metaphor for what happened to this country when the Immigration Act of 1965 took effect.

Posted by: DJ | August 26, 2009 at 04:23 PM

What?

One fish, two fish, black fish, blue fish fish.

The act ended racial quotas in immigration.Your metaphor portends towards racism in that the new policy did not discriminate by race

Love to hear DJ's metaphor for what occured after the Voting Rights Act of the same year...

M/M

“During debate on the Senate floor, Kennedy, speaking of the effects of the act, said, "First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same.... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset.... Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia.... In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think.... The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs." [2] The act's supporters not only claimed the law would not change America's ethnic makeup, but that such a change was not desirable. [1]
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Immigration_Act_of_1965


DJ

SARAH PALIN:
I would like to extend our sympathies to the Kennedy family as we hear word about the passing of Senator Ted Kennedy. He believed in our country and fought passionately for his convictions

Palin's minions:
thank you for maintaining my belief in you as a real american, however this country is now much better off, one less socialist, anti freedom senator."


"Now if we could just talk God into taking Arlin Spector, Harry Reid,and Nancy Pelosi America would be Eutopia!"


"good riddens"


"If he makes it into Heaven (& I doubt he will with his stance on abortion) I hope that God makes him babysit all the aborted children for eternity. God have mercy on his soul."


"Ted Kennedy dying has made my day...."


"He cannot fillibuster God. Good ridencance to a sorry person."


"It's about time, we can only hope Pelosi and Ried will be joining him very soon. All 3 of them should be buried in Moscow for whom they work so tirelessly."


... AND PERHAPS MY FAVORITE:


"Sarah - I need to contact you. I need to know how to fight this current govt. We must find a way to get them removed, standing by and watching all the evil occur, is like watching water run quickly down the drain, each of our freedoms gone daily. Please advise me what direction to take my group. Thank you"

Posted by: Phil Wedeen | August 26, 2009 at 06:43 PM
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Those were some pretty good comments, Phil. But a simple: Hurray! would suffice.

I hope for Chappaquiddick Ted's sake, he was an admirer of Hieronymus Bosch because this is probably his eternal resting place:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bSZslEDUl0&feature=related

Phil Wedeen

The connection between civil rights legislation and abolishing the national origins quotas was explicit. As Rep. Philip Burton (D-CA) said in Congress:


"Just as we sought to eliminate discrimination in our land through the Civil Rights Act, today we seek by phasing out the national origins quota system to eliminate discrimination in immigration to this nation composed of the descendants of immigrants." (Congressional Record, Aug. 25, 1965, p. 21783.)


And Rep. Robert Sweeney (D-OH) said:


"Mr. Chairman, I would consider the amendments to the Immigration and Nationality Act to be as important as the landmark legislation of this Congress relating to the Civil Rights Act. The central purpose of the administration's immigration bill is to once again undo discrimination and to revise the standards by which we choose potential Americans in order to be fairer to them and which will certainly be more beneficial to us." (Congressional Record, Aug. 25, 1965, p. 21765.)


Other politicians also thought the immigration law needed to be changed. Much earlier, President Truman, in the message accompanying his (unsuccessful) veto of the 1952 McCarran-Walter Act (which had maintained the national origins quota system), wrote:


"These are only a few examples of the absurdity, the cruelty of carrying over into this year of 1952 the isolationist limitations of our 1924 law. In no other realm of our national life are we so hampered and stultified by the dead hand of the past, as we are in this field of immigration." (Truman, Harry S., Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States. U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C., 1961, pp. 443-444.)


In 1960, President Dwight D. Eisenhower declared to Congress:


"I again urge the liberalization of some of our restrictions upon immigration...we should double the 154,000 quota immigrants ... we should make special provisions for the absorption of many thousands of persons who are refugees." (Eisenhower, Dwight D., Public Papers of the Presidents of the United States, U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C., 1961, pp. 308-310.)


President John F. Kennedy's immigration message to Congress on July 23, 1963, assailed the national origins quota system as having "no basis in either ethics or morality."

http://www.cis.org/articles/1995/back395.html

Phil Wedeen

Those were some pretty good comments, Phil. But a simple: Hurray! would suffice.


I hope for Chappaquiddick Ted's sake, he was an admirer of Hieronymus Bosch because this is probably his eternal resting place:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bSZslEDUl0&feature=related

Posted by: DJ | August 26, 2009 at 07:01


DJ, you're so 19th Century.

M/M

"First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same....
_________________________________

How are the Census numbers looking in those border towns?

M/M

Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset.... Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area
_________________________-

Press 1 for English, 2 for Spanish

M/M

Here are EminemsRevenge's thoughts on Ted Kenndy's death:
http://eminemsrevenge.xanga.com/710557675/teddys-dead/

Phil Wedeen

Quebec and neighboring Canada has long been a refuge for Americans on the lam from the law.
In the face of this Ottawa and Condoleeza Rice penned an agreement making extradition for fugitive suspects easier on both sides of the border.
Still, it seems that the word hasn't filtered down to the fugitive class:

En bref - Bush à Montréal, en octobre

From today's news.

I emailed this to a colleague who departs for the Chilean spring this weekend and he replied that Bush would not dare visit Spain anytime soon.

Mr Bush can thank anglophone Canada for the return ticket to Texas as the consensus here in Montreal would be to him on to Madrid after he addresses a business group here on trade, Afghanistan, and anecdotes on his Presidency.
This is the former President's third speaking engagement in Canada since leaving office. He spoke in Toronto and Calgary earlier.

I see these gigs as a testament to boredom as Canadians seem to feel a need to import prior US Presidents, pay them well, and then kabbitz among ourselves after they leave. There is actually a hard right who wants to mimic US policy and thankfully none reside in Montreal.
The venue asks that attendees remove their shoes prior to Mr Bush's address.

Phil Wedeen

It helps if I post the link to the news of Mr Bush's visit:

http://www.ledevoir.com/2009/08/26/264180.html

DJ

"First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same....
_________________________________

How are the Census numbers looking in those border towns?

Posted by: M/M | August 26, 2009 at 07:40 PM

M/M,

You've gotta check this out:

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/resources/video/recommended/immigration-tradition-vs-immigration-today.html

Phil Wedeen

We've had our share of visiting politicos. But none raised the socio-cultural barometer quite like this speech forty-two years ago (english commentary provided):

http://archives.cbc.ca/politics/provincial_territorial_politics/clips/1132/

I think that Mr Bush does have a chance at breaking the record set in 1967 (the incident prompted McCartney to pen Hello-Goodbye- "It's a song about everything and nothing") should he raise the spectre of gunsmoke and cloudy mushrooms and weapons which can kill us handely up here in the province of the Zig-Zag man.

Mr Bush has shown a proclivity for polarization, and thanks to his environmental ennui which breeds malice, he won't experience this proclivity while here.

DJ

Suitable for framing:-

http://www.wvwnews.net/images/teaser/kennedy_absolut.jpg

Phil Wedeen


Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset.... Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area
_________________________-

Press 1 for English, 2 for Spanish

Posted by: M/M | August 26, 2009 at 07:43 PM

Cheap shot. Folks on this blog- including you- have pontificated on the crisis of the undocumented by stating they are breaking the law.
Mr Kennedy supported a bill to end discrimination on legal immigration.
As a general proposition people who immigrate legally tend to assimilate.
MM is conflating all immigrants into the USA which denigrates those sincere in following US law.

In Quebec there is a online questionnaire for provincial immigration from persons abroad. Residency demands proficiency in French and requires language study as a precondition to permanent residence for foreign immigration. That said there are a polyglot of languages spoken here from persons who have fulfilled the requirement by choose to speak the language of choice.
Global trade and jet travel has made provincialism a difficult thing to maintain.

I suspect that businesses wishing to capture the spanish speaking market insert Press#2 as a convienence. Here everything must be bi-lingual by law and it gets expensive. On the other side though is my generation which is thouroughly bi-lingual ... although we never let on to the tourists.

gringoman

A SOBER LOOK AT TED KENNEDY
///////As we celebrate fifty years of GQ, we take a look at some of the best journalism the magazine has published. In 1990, Michael Kelly—who later became the first American reporter to die in the Iraq war—gave us this memorable and devastatingly candid portrayal of the last Kennedy brother

Perhaps this seems unfair. From all available evidence, God created our elected officials to drink and screw around. Arrogance, too, is common. So is sexual recklessness (witness Gary Hart, Robert Bauman and Barney Frank); power dements as well as corrupts. But Kennedy’s behavior stands out. The two most infamous Terrible Teddy stories make the point. Both take place at Washington’s La Brasserie, where Kennedy is a favorite customer.

Brasserie I: In December 1985, just before he announced he would run for president in 1988, Kennedy allegedly manhandled a pretty young woman employed as a Brasserie waitress. The woman, Carla Gaviglio, declined to be quoted in this article, but says the following account, a similar version of which first appeared in Penthouse last year, is full and accurate:

It is after midnight and Kennedy and Dodd are just finishing up a long dinner in a private room on the first floor of the restaurant’s annex. They are drunk. Their dates, two very young blondes, leave the table to go to the bathroom. (The dates are drunk too. “They’d always get their girls very, very drunk,” says a former Brasserie waitress.) Betty Loh, who served the foursome, also leaves the room. Raymond Campet, the co-owner of La Brasserie, tells Gaviglio the senators want to see her.

As Gaviglio enters the room, the six-foot-two, 225-plus-pound Kennedy grabs the five-foot-three, 103-pound waitress and throws her on the table. She lands on her back, scattering crystal, plates and cutlery and the lit candles. Several glasses and a crystal candlestick are broken. Kennedy then picks her up from the table and throws her on Dodd, who is sprawled in a chair. With Gaviglio on Dodd’s lap, Kennedy jumps on top and begins rubbing his genital area against hers, supporting his weight on the arms of the chair. As he is doing this, Loh enters the room. She and Gaviglio both scream, drawing one or two dishwashers. Startled, Kennedy leaps up. He laughs. Bruised, shaken and angry over what she considered a sexual assault, Gaviglio runs from the room. Kennedy, Dodd and their dates leave shortly thereafter, following a friendly argument between the senators over the check.

Eyewitness Betty Loh told me that Kennedy had “three or four” cocktails in his first half hour at the restaurant and wine with dinner. When she walked into the room after Gaviglio had gone in, she says, “what I saw was Senator Kennedy on top of Carla, who was on top of Senator Dodd’s lap, and the tablecloth was sort of slid off the table ‘cause the table was knocked over—not completely, but just on Senator Dodd’s lap a little bit, and of course the glasses and the candlesticks were totally spilled and everything. And right when I walked in, Senator Kelly jumped off…and he leaped up, composed himself and got up. And Carla jumped up and ran out of the room.”

http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_5585&pageNum=5

DJ

--"As a general proposition people who immigrate legally tend to assimilate.
MM is conflating all immigrants into the USA which denigrates those sincere in following US law."

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Typical straw-man argument/tactic from a duplicitous lawyer.

M/M never said nor suggested ALL immigrants, Hispanic or otherwise, do not assimilate. Get that through your head!

PW, have you read 'Mexifornia' by Victor Davis Hanson yet? He would certainly disagree with you when it comes to Mestizos assimilating.

gringoman

A LIBERAL LEGEND

MICHAEL KELLY///////The Kennedy brothers always perpetuated their own glorious images, but over the years the last brother has built an image—not glorious at all—of his very own. For his hard public drinking, his obsessive public womanizing and his frequent boorishness, he has become a late-century legend, Teddy the Terrible, the Kennedy Untrammeled. In Washington, it sometimes seems as if everyone knows someone who has slept with Kennedy, been invited to sleep with Kennedy, seen Kennedy drunk, been insulted by Kennedy. At Desirée, a private Georgetown club where well-heeled fat men mingle with society brats and party girls, Kennedy is known as a thrice-a-month habitué and remembered by at least one fellow customer for the time he made a scene with his overenthusiasm for a runway model during a club fashion show. In a downtown office, a former congressional page tells of her surprise meeting with Kennedy three years ago. She was 16 then. It was evening and she and her 16-year-old page, an attractive blonde, were walking down the Capitol steps on their way home from work when Kennedy’s limo pulled up and the senator opened the door. In the backseat stood a bottle of wine on ice. Leaning his graying head out the door, the senator popped the question: Would one of the girls care to join him for dinner? No? How about the other? The girls said no thanks and the senator zoomed off. Kennedy, the formal page said, made no overt sexual overtures and was “very careful to make it seem like nothing out of the ordinary.” It is possible that Kennedy did not know that the girls were underage or that they were pages and, as such, were under the protection of Congress, which serves in loco parentis. Nevertheless, the former page said she did find Kennedy’s invitation surprising. “He didn’t even know me,” she says. “I knew this kind of stuff happened, but I didn’t expect it to happen to me.”
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A LIBERAL RACIST LEGEND

MICHAEL KELLY/////Lobbyist John Aycoth recalls a recent afternoon meeting he arranged between Kennedy and several of Aycoth’s potential clients, representatives of an African government. Aycoth says Kennedy “was incredibly rude” and “was drunk…stumbling and slurring his words and red in the face and smelling of alcohol.” One of the visiting dignitaries—a Kennedy devotee who had called on JFK at the White House—presented the senator with a necklace to give to his mother for her forthcoming ninety-ninth birthday. Kennedy’s appreciation? “When we were walking out, he just pitched it on the desk, right in front of them,” says Aycoth. “Didn’t open it. Didn’t say thanks. Nothing.” (After my talk with Aycoth, his associate, former Delaware Congressman Tom Evans, who was also at the meeting, called to say nervously that he had heard what Aycoth had said and that while the account of rude behavior is true, in his opinion Kennedy had been “perfectly sober.”)

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LIBERAL LEGENDS

MICHAEl KELLY/////There have been many theories advanced to explain Kennedy’s behavior, all of which make much of the extraordinarily competitive and amoral atmosphere (especially as far as the treatment of women was concerned) in which the Kennedy boys were raised. As Garry Wills makes clear in his elegant The Kennedy Imprisonment, Ted Kennedy was born and bred to act like the last of the Regency rakes: to be a boor when it pleases him, to take what he wants, to treat women as score-markers in the game of sport-fucking and to revel in high-stakes risks. Joseph Kennedy Sr. flaunted his affairs in front of his wife and children, made crude passes at his sons’ dates and well past his middle years was still chasing doxies. John Kennedy’s mad womanizing—frolicking with nudettes in the White House swimming pool, banging a call girl in Lincoln’s bed, carrying on barely secret affairs with admitted mobster girlfriend Judith Campbell Exner, with Marilyn Monroe and Jayne Mansfield—was beyond anything Teddy has ever done or, for that matter, anything anybody has ever done. Neither Joe nor Jack was punished by church, state or wife for such behavior and the late-born Teddy, coming into the family when its adult behavior patterns were already mythologized, presumably figured that neither the rules of decency nor of retribution applied to a Kennedy. The boy grew to manhood without learning how to be an adult. His drinking suggests nothing so much as a frat boy on a toot. His actions with women seem to be more evidence, as writer Suzannah Lessard put it in 1979, of “a severe case of arrested development, a kind of narcissistic intemperance, a huge, babyish ego that must constantly be fed.”

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LIBERAL LEGEND

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LIBERAL LEGEND

MICHAEL KELLY//////Kennedy’s only real grown-up job has been serving as a U.S. senator, and the greatest men’s club in the world became his second family, giving him the same kinds of special privileges and protections as his first. Michael Barone, coauthor of The Almanac of American Politics, sees Kennedy as a victim of environmentally induced inertia. “In the old days, you could get away with this stuff,” says Barone. “The senator would be at his desk and there would be a pair of high heels sticking out from underneath and you weren’t supposed to notice it. Maybe Ted Kennedy didn’t realize times have changed.”

But arrested development doesn’t explain why Kennedy seems to be getting worse as he gets older. According to a theory currently popular in Washington, such incidents at Brasserie I and II are evidence that Kennedy, freed at last by the knowledge that he will never be president, is simply giving his natural inclinations full vent. In the opinion of Roll Call’s Thomas, “He’s beyond caring about anything since he knows he’s not going to be president…He’s what Kennedys always were, and [as] the only thing that kept them under control was the ambition for higher office…he’s no longer under control.” Says another Washington reporter, “He seems to be going through a second adolescence…I think he realizes his day in the sun is over. Whereas he might have made a pretense of being a good family man years ago, he doesn’t have to pretend anymore…He figures he is never going to run for president again. He has no great ambition beyond being the once almost prince.” In short, with nothing left to lose politically (he’d have to hit the pope and pee on the Irish flag to lose his Senate seat) and long inured to ridicule, he has become the Kennedy Untrammeled, Unbound.

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All the theories, however, still leave you wondering. Neither family history nor generational attitudes nor a lifetime as one of the privileged elite nor the liberation of renouncing the presidency fully explain Kennedy’s behavior, although all play a part.

A longtime associate of Kennedy’s thinks the full explanation must take into account one other factor. He says, “The problem with Kennedy theories is that people are looking for psychological Rosetta stones when the answer is a far more common malady. If you forget he’s a Kennedy, it’s textbook, it’s just textbook.”

This man, who asked that he not be identified, is a recovering alcoholic who spoke because he believes Kennedy needs help. He thinks Kennedy’s episodes of disgraceful behavior are due to the simple fact that he periodically drowns his few, faint natural inhibitions in a sea of booze. “He’s what we call in the trade a binge drinker,” says this man, who says he has seen Kennedy drunk enough to lapse into baby talk with his young dates. “We are talking serious binge drinking, really pouring it down.” He adds, “There is an extensive conspiracy effort” among Kennedy’s close friends “to make him face up to the fact that he’s got a problem…There are occasional plots of confrontation and one thing or another to shake some sense into him. The conversation is far more than idle and it involves just about anyone you can think of who has been exceptionally close to him, especially in the last five or six years.” There have been, he says, “hints dropped here and there. You put a hook in the water and see if he bites.”

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Liberal Legend

MICHAEL KELLY////The recovering alcoholic quoted earlier thinks Kennedy has passed that point: “He is a very unhappy man personally. He’s very unhappy and lonely [because of] his inability to find someone after his marriage fell apart…Getting laid has long since ceased being fun.”

Fun? A Boston reporter recalls seeing Kennedy on a morning after: “I had to cover him taking part in the Hands Across America thing on Boston Common and, Christ, it was like someone had poured Jack Daniel’s in his hair. It was like he was shpritzing Jack Daniel’s. And he’s holding hands with these two 50-year-old ladies, and it was just really pathetic. You look at the guy and you think, My God, he must be dying for a drink. You think, He’s really killing himself.”

Fun? “He has the kind of personal wealth where he can do just about anything he wants to do,” says Orrin Hatch. “But I wouldn’t trade life with him for ten seconds. I’d rather be poor and in the condition that I’m in than trade with Ted.”

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LIBERAL LEGEND

MICHAEL KELLY//////The American Enterprise Institute’s Congress watcher, Norman Ornstein, only goes a little beyond others when he declares that “Kennedy is going to go down as one of the most significant senators in history, in terms of concrete things accomplished and things put on the agenda that will get accomplished in years to come.” Illinois Democrat Paul Simon calls his colleague one of the “three or four shapers of what happens in the Senate,” and adds, “in terms of moving the agenda of the Senate, I can’t think of anybody who has had a greater impact.” Republican hatch calls Kennedy “the most powerful, effective liberal in the Senate” and says history will view him as “one of the all-time-great senators.”

Even a partial listing of the major bills in whose passage Kennedy has played a part is impressive. Whether you admire them or not, these are the measures that transformed—mostly liberalized—America in our time: the first Immigration Reform Act; the Voting Rights Act and its extensions; the Freedom of Information Act; the Gun Control Act; the Campaign Financing Reform law; the Comprehensive Selective Service Reform Act; the Eighteen-Year-Old Vote law; the Occupational Safety and Health Act; the War on Cancer bills; the recodification of federal criminal laws; the Bilingual Education Act; the Fair Housing Acts; the Age Discrimination Act; the Airline and Trucking Deregulation bills; the Job Training Partnership Act; the South African sanctions; and the Grove City Civil Rights Restoration Act.

Far more than either of his brothers, who were lackluster senators, Kennedy, over the past three decades, has been responsible for changes in the complexion of this country and in the lives of its citizens. He has been an ally of blacks, American Indians, the poor, the sick, the aged, the mentally ill, starving refugees worldwide and immigrants. He has been an outspoken liberal, unafraid to take the controversial positions—on issues such as busing, abortion, gun control, the Vietnam War (late but forcefully), the nuclear freeze and capital punishment—that other senators clearly avoided.

Since Kennedy assumed the chairmanship of the Labor and Human Resources Committee in 1986, upon the Democrats’ regaining control of the Senate, his power has grown markedly and he is now, by all accounts, in the prime of his career. He has become not only the most consistent counterforce to the long-running Republican administrations in pushing for government activism in health, education, labor and science, but has also become adept at building Republican-Democrat, Right-Left coalitions that can ensure passage of compromise domestic-policy legislation. Hatch, for instance, says he “came to the Senate to fight Ted Kennedy.” Yet, because Hatch likes him and trusts him—and because with Kennedy behind it, a bill automatically receives serious attention—he now often joins Kennedy in sponsoring relatively uncontroversial measures.

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LIBERAL LEGEND

MICHAEL KELLY////There are times, however, when patience and collegiality do not meet the occasion. When it comes to a clear-cut Left-versus-Right fight, says Hatch, Kennedy “will murder you, he’ll roll right over you…He’ll trample you in the ground and then he’ll grind his heel in you.”

Robert Bork still has Kennedy’s heel marks on his forehead. Forty-five minutes after President Reagan nominated Bork for a Supreme Court seat in 1987, Kennedy was on the floor of the Senate and on the attack: “Robert Bork’s America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police would break down citizens’ doors in midnight raids…”

It was, in the words of Kennedy’s former aide Thomas Susman, “outrageous…pretty tough and pretty early on and pretty judgmental and very aggressive.” Bork recently told me with still-hot bitterness, “There was not a line in that speech that was accurate…It was a series of untruths. I didn’t want police breaking down your door. I didn’t want evolution banned from public schools. I didn’t want to force women to have back-alley abortions. The whole thing was false.”

Even Judiciary Committee Chairman Biden, Kennedy’s close ally and coleader of the stop-Bork forces, says Kennedy’s speech was “technically accurate but unfair” and that it “drew lines in ways that were starker than reality.” Biden says he wouldn’t have made such a speech. But, he admits, he is glad Kennedy did. Both he and ranking Republican committee-member Hatch say that without that speech, and without Kennedy’s aggressive personal lobbying against Bork with hundreds of civil-rights leaders and liberal activists around the country, the candidate probably would have been confirmed.

Kennedy’s role in the Bork fight stems from and illustrates his overarching position in American politics. In a rare moment of irritation with the American Civil Liberties Union, the senator once said, “The ACLU thinks that it defines liberalism in the country. I define liberalism in this country.” He was exaggerating only a little. In the religion of liberalism, Kennedy is the guardian of orthodoxy. He is the voice of the interest groups that define the Democratic Party; the black activists, the trade unions, the feminists, the environmentalists, the teachers’ unions and the perennial progressives.

Kennedy is strong and unswerving in his beliefs because they are personal, rooted not in theory but in an emotional commitment to government activism—a continuation and expansion of the leftward direction in which his brother Robert had been heading before his murder. Milton Gwirtzman, who wrote speeches for both Bobby and Ted, says the latter does not have “an articulated set of principles” that rises to the level of an ideology. “There’s no such thing as ‘Kennedy’s thoughts,’ ” says Gwirtzman. “It’s reactions, gut instincts. And they’ve been bent occasionally, but they have always remained the same.”

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LIBERAL LEGEND

MICHAEL KELLY////The last Kennedy had so few choices, really. He was born to be the baby of the family, not the patriarch; the fourth brother, not the only one; the also-Kennedy, not the President Kennedy. When he was a chubby-cheeked little boy, the family was packed with grown-ups. They all went away. Joseph junior died when Teddy was 12. Kathleen died when he was 16. Jack died when he was 31. Bobby died when he was 36. The king himself, Joe senior, died when he was 37.

“To be truly human,” Ted Kennedy once said, “is to shape your own world.” And he has, far more than most men dream of, done just that. He has made laws. He has been at the front of sweeping change, improving the lives of many people. He has helped perpetuate a dynasty. The truth is, however, the world shapes us far more than we shape it. The truth is, the forces of the world—the rules of primogeniture, the warp of genetics and the woof of environment, the killing power of bullets and the grip of alcohol—shaped Ted Kennedy and shape him still. It is the sad irony of his life that while he has wrought his will on the world at large he remains unable still to control his own life. He started out in this world dangling from strings held by his father and his brothers. They’re gone now, but Teddy dangles still, dancing to the echoes of an old and tired tune.

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While we're surrounded by the clueless in glass houses who cannot help themselves from throwing stones about one Chappaquiddick, let us not forget that Laura Welch, soon to be Laura Bush, "who had the best pot on campus" according to hubby Dubyah, killed a young man by the name of Michael Douglas when she "ran a stop sign."

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp

And that there was plenty of rumours and innuendo about the "unexplicable" "accident" being murder over a broken relationship.

There is nothing so ugly as a leper covered with scabs and open sores shouting "Unclean! Unclean!" at another leper.

But then, cons just can't help themselves, can they?

M/M

I don't see how the culture isn't changing by admitting so many from one group. Besides illegal immigration, the numbers skyrocket because of chain migration.

What about legal immigrants? Are we not discriminating against them? What about other groups like Eastern Europeans, for example?

gringoman

Right.

The neo-conservative rabbit hole:

Obama's Health; EXCELLENT!

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/05/obama_releases_health_informat.html

HIghlights:
*Triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.


Posted by: Phil Wedeen | August 26, 2009 at 06:02 PM

What passes for a brainpan in Cyberstalker who will not even confirm or deny ACLU affiliation? See above.

Was Shakespeare right about lawyers, even the products of Shyster Evening School?

gringoman

Senator Obama’s last medical checkup was on January 15, 2007; he had no complaints. He exercised regularly often jogging three miles. His diet was balanced with good intake of roughage and fluids. A complete review of systems was unremarkable. On physical examination, his blood pressure was 90/60 and pulse 60/minute. His build was lean and muscular with no excess body fat. His physical examination was completely normal.

Laboratory studies included triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.

In short, his examination showed him to be in excellent health. Senator Barack Obama is in overall good physical and mental health needed to maintain the resiliency required in the Office of President.

Sincerely,

David L. Scheiner, M.D.


Posted by: Phil Wedeen | August 26, 2009 at 06:14 PM

DJ,

Give Liberal Racist Cyberstalker, who does not even have the integrity to confirm or deny ACLU affiliation, at least a crumb of credit. He's showing the beginning of a sense of humor, trying to gloss over his inability to reason like an adult and instead takes the route of the precocious child.

McCain made hundreds of pages of his medical history available to the media. Here, Kook, Esq. proudly produces that single page from a doctor operating in The Chicago Way (and presumably not a quack or yet brought up on charges.)

You'll notice that Kook de Quebec, while preening on his, uh, "superior intelligence" and legal expertise, never indicates where he passed a bar exam, or what school he graduated from. (Exactly like Slimebert, Sr. who Ummah traced to a possible tenure at Wyoming State Penitentiary.)

gringoman

HIghlights:
*Triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.


Posted by: Phil Wedeen | August 26, 2009 at 06:02 PM

DJ,

Kook, Esq. aka Cyberstalker de Quebec might even find a doctor who will produce a one-page opinion that he (Cyberstalker)is sound of mind.

Look at the one-page opinion that Obama's been able to get, while hiding 99% of his medical records (which is enough to impress the "legal expert," Kook, Esq.

Wonder which better describes The Kook: 'Dumb lawyer' or 'smart shyster'?

gringoman

.. AND PERHAPS MY FAVORITE:

"Sarah - I need to contact you. I need to know how to fight this current govt. We must find a way to get them removed, standing by and watching all the evil occur, is like watching water run quickly down the drain, each of our freedoms gone daily. Please advise me what direction to take my group. Thank you"


Posted by: Phil Wedeen | August 26, 2009 at 06:43 PM

M/M/DJ.

Is Cyberstalker, who lacks even the integrity to confirm or deny ACLU affiliation, showing any here?
Is he simply mocking these right-wing Americans for being so powerless? While doing Saul Alinsky shtick, trying to ridicule them---a sign of the weasel---is he gloating (another sign of the weasel) over the fact that they lack the power and influence of Obama's big-time lunatics, like Black Nutzi Pastor Wright and Liberal Racist Terrorist Bill Ayres, not to mention the media Liberal Racist flunkeys who carried the ex-Barry Soetoro into the White House?

gringoman

President John F. Kennedy's immigration message to Congress on July 23, 1963, assailed the national origins quota system as having "no basis in either ethics or morality."

http://www.cis.org/articles/1995/back395.html

Posted by: Phil Wedeen | August 26, 2009 at 07:07 PM

Yet again the Liberal Racists and the black hacks who are so useful to them indulge in idiocy and without a clue to the unintended consequences, (like the legalese loon who stalks here.)

1. Instead of "leveling the playing field," the Act simply went into reverse discrimination. Liberal Racists are masters of this, as we see with their reverse discrimination. The Act deliberately discriminated against Europeans, exactly like the liberal Racist's Affirmative Action discriminates against whites.

2. Black so-called 'leaders' who have sold out to the Liberal Racists, are either too stupid to see, or too callous to care about the ultimate consequences for Afro-Americans, who are certain to lose, sooner or later, their prized status as THE non-white "minority." Their leaders have jived them into believing this will benefit them, since the US will be less white."Yo, Bro, those Hindoos an'Koreans an' brown folks gonna take to you like Whitey never did! Why? Hey, why not? They ain't white, are they?"

Heh-heh.

Wait till all the latinos, Hindus, Asians etc are lectured about the "quotas" and favors they owe to the "oppressed" blacks.

Or tell them right now in the gang-banger streets of Los Angeles.

Liberal Racists. That's what they are.

Ree

Camelot was from Jackie Kennedy.

Preface
With clarity and political savvy of a master spin artist, the
34-year-old widow spoke to the writer, Theodore H. White, for
four hours, urging him to tell the world -- through LIFE magazine
-- that Kennedy was truly "a man of magic," that his
presidency was truly special, that the era was, to use the words
she borrowed from a Broadway musical, "one brief shining
moment that was known as Camelot."
A year after Jacqueline Kennedy


http://www.jfklancer.com/pdf/Camelot.pdf

gringoman

Those were some pretty good comments, Phil. But a simple: Hurray! would suffice.


I hope for Chappaquiddick Ted's sake, he was an admirer of Hieronymus Bosch because this is probably his eternal resting place:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bSZslEDUl0&feature=related

Posted by: DJ | August 26, 2009 at 07:01


DJ, you're so 19th Century.

Posted by: Phil Wedeen | August 26, 2009 at 07:10 PM


DJ,

Whether as a dumb lawyer or smart shyster, Cybserstalker would know about the 19th Century, as per

COMMUNIST MANIFESTO, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, 1848

Why do we always get the impression that Kook, Esq. is still sucking on that lozenge?

gringoman

t helps if I post the link to the news of Mr Bush's visit:

http://www.ledevoir.com/2009/08/26/264180.html

Posted by: Phil Wedeen | August 26, 2009 at 08:04 PM

It would also help if a cyberstalker, self-preening on integrity, righteousness, straight-shooting, anti-Imperialism, LE DEVOIR "advanced thinkers" etc would confirm or deny ACLU affiliation. This would still leave Stalker & Associates enough time to play legal tiddley-winks with ex-Presidents not deemed politically correct enough.

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