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July 12, 2009

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gringoman

Their M.O. is now painfully and pathetically familiar: When things get bad and too hot to handle, invoke Bush and Cheney. It worked for them for years. It won them the election. It's carried them through the first half year of this new presidency. It's given them a useful foil.

They also know it's a crutch they can no longer get away with leaning upon. But that doesn't mean they won't try.

This isn't leadership. It's playground immaturity. It's also an incredible abuse of power.

July 12, 2009 at 03:23 PM |

And it's not also swaggering punks staring down the Republican kids in the schoolyard, knowing that none of them, not Bush, not Cheney even, will dare demand that de facto POTUS-O pony up his school, medical, birth and passport records, just like any other "transparent" Prez would?

We know what these Republicans are. Princess. We know that the Obots have got them mau-mau-ed. Bet you know it too, and don't need a tutorial on Liberal Racism. Niall knows it, as in......

So that pretty much leaves it up to the bloggers and radio talk-show people. If ENOUGH of those got on board with enthusiasm and pushed the issue hard enough, even the MSM might be forced to start taking notice. The fact that at least one Obama relative has insisted repeatedly she was present during his birth in Kenya is something that should be more newsworthy than it has been.

All that said, I still don't see Republicans touching it with the proverbial ten-foot pole. This would be the hottest of hot potatoes.

Posted by: Niall | July 12, 2009 at 12:51 PM


PS Still, ol' Rush Limbaugh has been putting out some "mysterious" one-liners lately on the theme of God and Obama (like neither has a birth certificate). Nothing more, so far. But even the one-liner is heard all over....Know what we're saying, Cara Mia?

xbjllb

They're not "invoking" Bush and Cheney and news flash, Rumsfeld; they're going to try them, convict them, hang, and bury them. Bush will only be imprisoned as he was merely an idiot dupe completely out of the loop his entire "Administration". Dito Rice only because she is a woman. Cheney and Rumsfeld will certainly hang, as well as GHW Bush if he "survives" the trials (i.e., suicide).

War crimes against humanity were committed. Purely for profit. Propaganda, presented as "intelligence" was created out of thin air, to sell a war that was prosecuted ineptly and amateurishly ON PURPOSE, to keep a gravy train running for Haliburton and ilk and the human excrement who are their stockholders. Attacks were planned, implemented, and carried out against the American People by those entrusted to protect them. 9-11 might not figure into the end result, but it would only be the final nail as treason was committed with or without 9-11 complicity, foreknowledge, or actual planning and implementation. The government the founding fathers set up and still survives under all the BS, is apparently strong enough to deal with an offense contracting fascism coup run amok, straight into a wall of its own lack of foresight based on greed and unmitigated arrogance.

We're lucky the only "loss" this country has to face is Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the GOP. And along the way some Bush-fellating nutcase will off Obama as well. Nazi Germany suffered far greater for decades.

There's your history lesson today, Kiddies. Learn it and learn it well, and NEVER EFFING FORGET IT.

You can't make a man moral, but you can sure as hell scare him to death from being immoral.

gringoman

Of course a very important weapon the Obots and Dems use to kneecap and humiliate the Republicans and non-"progressives," is the faithful Lamestream. A sharp historical reminder on how this Media Weapon of Mass Persuasion works, going all the way back to the Vietnam war, is found in a new book.


RIDE THE THUNDER

gringoNOTE: While the leftniki and their Internet trolls, who wouldn't know a BOQ in Saigon from a prostate condition, stick to Walter Cronkite on Vietnam ("an unwinnable war") a new book gives the politically incorrect view of why America's longest war ended so dismally and tragically: America's enemies knew exactly how to play a very willing US media. (Any savvy and experienced observer can note how Islamic terrorists today have learned to equal yesterday's Communist terrorists in use of the politically correct Western media.) Speaking of "America's Anchorman" Walter Cronkite of CBS News, I got a unique look at how the game is played, restoring the looted CBS Bureau in Saigon after the blue-ribbon network's entire staff vamoosed in the Fall of Saigon panic,

ps. On July 4 I began an on-going "legacy project," which will include the digitizing of 150 'Daniel Cameron' bylines for The Saigon Post (as in the column SAIGON NOTES etc) besides work for NEWSDAY, CHICAGO TRIBUNE, CHICAGO SUN-TIMES and the unspeakable CBS News. For future scholars, these give perspectives and insights not normally found in the orthodox journalism of that period (and often transcend the stupid cliches of Left or Right) In one feature I did for The Saigon Post, DEFIANCE AT FIREBASE O'REILLY, the Vietnamese warrior, the youngest Colonel in Vietnam, is exactly like the Vietnamese Marines chronicled in this new book, so different from the stereotype of the lackadaisical South Vietnamese soldier, as made famous in the media (and we all knew about that ARVIN reality too.)


RIDE THE THUNDER



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Finally! A war story the state-run media hate to reveal
Forget what you think you know, here's the real Vietnam account

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Posted: July 05, 2009
9:25 pm Eastern


By Chelsea Schilling
© 2009 WorldNetDaily


These men, Americans and Vietnamese of every military branch, were a genuinely disparate bunch. … As spent as he now was, he continued to gaze at these young men who looked older than they were, who collectively carried the weight of the world on their tired frames, and simply smiled to himself. God alone knew how proud Turley was of those men.

– "Ride the Thunder" by Richard Botkin

Everything Americans know about the end of the Vietnam War is wrong, contends Richard Botkin, author of "Ride the Thunder" and former Marine infantry officer. He reveals the heroic, untold story of how Vietnamese Marines and their U.S. advisers fought valiantly, turning the tide of an unpopular war and actually winning – while Americans 8,000 miles away were being fed only one version of the story.

"From the American side, I think most people have a completely uninformed or misinformed opinion of the Vietnam War," Botkin told WND. "Most Americans, including people who served in Vietnam, didn't appreciate the level of sacrifice of the South Vietnamese. These people love freedom."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=101840

xbjllb

"All that said, I still don't see Republicans touching it with the proverbial ten-foot pole. This would be the hottest of hot potatoes."

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There can only be ONE reason they're not pursuing it.

First, the single most important reason TO pursue it would be to tie up Obama and the Democrats for the next three years into sorting it out. Constintutional crisis crunch time. And the only possible end result would be a compromise new law that would GUT the Constitutional requirement and allow Arnold to literally waltz into the White House in 2012. As the "Patriot" wing of the GOP passes its spleen. But they'd have the Presidency and a veto-proof majority in Congress once again to prosecute their endless gravy train wars.

So why would they still not pursue it? It's obvious, they know they'd be taking on the entire CIA. Obama is CIA like his Mother before him, through and through, raised in the Agency. And the CIA, together with the Military, has decided enough offense contracting and endless unwinnable war is enough.

Now does that mean that Dick Cheney wouldn't take the CIA on directly in an act of desperation to save his own skin by spilling the beans he certainly has about Obama's birthplace?

Time will tell. If he dies, we know he tried.

But the CIA can't kill everyone in the GOP. Sooner or later this HAS to come out.

Phil Wedeen

Everything Americans know about the end of the Vietnam War is wrong, contends Richard Botkin, author of "Ride the Thunder" and former Marine infantry officer. He reveals the heroic, untold story of how Vietnamese Marines and their U.S. advisers fought valiantly, turning the tide of an unpopular war and actually winning – while Americans 8,000 miles away were being fed only one version of the story. -GRINGOMAN


Gringoman is hellbent on creating a legacy based on fantasy. Working for the Saigon Post, a paper which intentionally reported that the american army was winning at the very same moment that Saigon was surrounded and led its readers into a false sense of security which resulted in unnecessary loss of life.

It appears that Operation Propaganda is still in full swing:

"...untold story (of)..US advisers fought valiantly.."

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/My_Lai_massacre.jpg

"..turning the tide of an unpopular war and actually winning.."

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/docroot/dulcinea/fd_images/news/on-this-day/April/Saigon-Falls-to-Vietcong--Ending-Vietnam-War/news/0/image.jpg

"Everything Americans know about the end of the Vietnam war is wrong."

http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/fall_of_saigon.jpg

"America's enemies knew exactly how to play a very willing US media"


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1143/3171291163_1cce2be58c.jpg

I would say that america enemies know exactly how to spin their propaganda in an effort to create a legacy of victory out of a genocide.

Phil Wedeen

Finally! A war story the state-run media hate to reveal
Forget what you think you know, here's the real Vietnam account- GRINGOMAN

http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/stoptorture/files/2007/10/waterboarding-in-vietnam.jpg

returnoftheking

Cheney should face the Gallows,for the all the pain and DEATH his lies have caused and than he can hang around with his buddy Robert Strange McNamara in the special HOTTEST place that is reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality...or at LEAST go to Prison and be Sodomized.

xbjllb

GHW Bush, Richard Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld, among others, are going to find out the hard way that it is one thing to rely on the good will of and enlist the aid of the Intelligence Community and the Military, to create the Neocon's much desired and much publicized Pearl Harbor 9-11 for the purpose of "US strategic objectives", and another thing entirely to merely dupe and use them to sock away more offshore gold than any human being has a right to have, and afterward to hang them entire lot of them out to dry on more than one occasion.

The military will lend you their cannon fodder, but you damned well had better have a reason other than profit for it, and a way to replace it. The Neocons had neither.

This crew, despite all the rhetoric still being spewed by the clueless and the complicit, most assuredly had no other motive. There is no other possible explanation other than outright purposeful malfeasance for repeating every single military strategic mistake made in Viet Nam, mistakes that had been completely corrected post-Viet Nam in the first Gulf War and in the Balkans and "would never happen again."

Indeed, this crew managed to dredge up and use every possible applicable military mistake made in all of history save ones that would immediately end the war.

That's quite an accomplishment.

Niall

> This weeks' "Newsweek" is reporting that although
> President Obama is reluctant to "look back," his
> Attorney General, Eric Holder, might investigate
> Bush administration officials, including the
> President and Vice President, Dick Cheney,
> for "crimes" pertaining to the prosecution of the
> war on terror.
[Monica]

Yes. Meanwhile, the very same Justice Department has dismissed the default judgement against the New Black Panther Party in Philadelphia for voter intimidation. The Black Panther thugs didn't even bother to show up in court but the judgement against them was thrown out anyway. Evidently there is no such thing as "breaking the law" if you're a rabid Obama supporter.
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/28/why-is-the-obama-justice-department-protecting-new-black-panthers/

Much the same with all the ACORN thugs and crooks, evidently. While they are still being investigated by various state agencies for their multitude of criminal activities, under the Obama administration all ACORN federal investigations reportedly have been dropped.

This stinks to high heaven, but don't expect to see much about it in the MSM.

Phil Wedeen

Niall:

While I sympathise with your concerns of voter intimidation your source is (surprise)intentionally misleading.

First, it is a lawsuit, not a criminal trial so nobody is accused of "breaking the law"

Second, The Plaintiff dropped allegations against two of the three defendants. As to the third defendant, failure to answer the complaint does not relieve the Plaintiff of making a prima facie case in court as federal pleading rules to not require that the plaintiff file a case with particularity.

If I recall correctly the issue is whether the defendants carrying concealed weapons within 100ft of a polling station constitutes voter intimidation. The rationale (assumed by the feds to be raised in defense if a trial went forward) is that a weapon concealed doesn't intimidate unless there is some outward manifestation of their presence.
The issue of having a concealed weapon in the first place is being dealt in the state criminal court and thus justice is being served.

Finally, wherever you got this sentence.. it isn't true:
"While they are still being investigated by various state agencies for their multitude of criminal activities, under the Obama administration all ACORN federal investigations reportedly have been dropped"

Sorry, the whole issue you raise here looks like a classic case of "Look Over There" as the issue at hand was the alleged criminality of VP Cheney.

thorn66

This isn't leadership. It's playground immaturity. It's also an incredible abuse of power.

July 12, 2009 at 03:23 PM | Permalink

LOL. You mean like lying about the reasons for going to war and then spending a trillion dollars and thousands of American lives, with the result of creating a training ground for suicide bombers and jihadists? Should have left secular Saddam in power and kept Iranians guessing.

xbjllb

"Should have left secular Saddam in power and kept Iranians guessing."

----

But then we would have had to PAY for the oil (the AUDACITY!!!) And Cheney's and Rumsfeld's Haliburton portfolios would have been so much thinner. And if Saddam had been able to refuse taking US dollars for oil, our dollar would be worth about half what it is today, down from the current crash point.

And Iswael would have been way more scared, being all awone in the big bad Mideast without US twoops to hold it's widdle hand (on the nuclear Armageddon trigger).

No. Unthinkable. OF COURSE the neocons were right. They're always right.

SteveOk

(Conservative Warrior Princess)This isn't leadership. It's playground immaturity. It's also an incredible abuse of power.
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It's a sign of desperation on the part of Obama. As he sees his poll numbers on a downward slide he resorts to the old tried and true Democratic tactics of investigations of the Republicans and more tax and spend policies (Stimulus II). The problem for Obama is that November 2010 is approaching and there is nothing he can do to prevent the American people holding his Administration accountable for the gigantic budget deficit and the double digit unemployment rate. The Democrats in Congress are going to take a thumping in 2010 and they know it, so their last desperate effort will be to resort to their gutter politics of investigations into Bush/Cheney. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they revisit the 2000 election in Florida, that's how nutty these people have become. It doesn't bother me because November 2010 is coming and they can't stop the elections. (*--they can't stop them but I'm sure they will have ACORN and other thugs out in force to pull an Iran or Minnisota again).

gringoman


Just days before the PLA plowed into the US Embassy Compound ending the war the Saigon Post headline reads "North Vietnam Can be Defeated". Gringoman is writing some ephemera in his column and looking back tells us, 'What did I know, I just wrote a column'. Mencken explains the regard the readership is held by the Post and Gringoman.

Posted by: Phil Wedeen | July 12, 2009 at 02:49 PM

For benefit of armchair Leftniki: the Commie tanks plowed into South Vietnam's citadel. Even a pretentious half-wit from Canada's Red Brigade would be expected to know this much. The famous foto by Aussie Neil Davis shows the Commie tank crashing the gate of the Presidential Palace. All this happened, of course, after media and the Left guaranteed that the liberal US Congress would abandon South Vietnam to the Communists, after 57,000 Americans gave their lives to prevent that.

If Canada's socialized medicine works, why can't their rabid kooks get more help?

EminemsRevenge

For almost eight years i've been hearing that 9/11 was Clinton's fault!!!

For the next election everyone should just write in their next door neighbor and REALLY send all those clowns a message. BTW, if Nixon thought George the First was a spineless clown, wonder what he'd have thought about Jr?

gringoman

Gringoman is hellbent on creating a legacy based on fantasy. Working for the Saigon Post, a paper which intentionally reported that the american army was winning at the very same moment that Saigon was surrounded and led its readers into a false sense of security which resulted in unnecessary loss of life.

Posted by: Phil Wedeen | July 12, 2009 at 05:09 PM

How sad, this guy's delirium. "american army" during the Fall of Saigon? Even the rear echelon clerks had departed Vietnam years earlier. You would think that even a product of Teacher's Union Government Schools would know that much. Is it ignorance? A missing gene? Or just the Marxie fervor of Phil "I am the Anti-Fascist, You Fascists!" Wedeen.

If Canada's socialized meds can't help, maybe someone can advise him where to go down here?

gringoman


Finally, wherever you got this sentence.. it isn't true:
"While they are still being investigated by various state agencies for their multitude of criminal activities, under the Obama administration all ACORN federal investigations reportedly have been dropped"

Sorry, the whole issue you raise here looks like a classic case of "Look Over There" as the issue at hand was the alleged criminality of VP Cheney.

Posted by: Phil Wedeen | July 12, 2009 at 09:53 PM

Niall,

Now that the Visitor From Planet ACLU is doing such a good (and typical) job in exculpating Obama's ACORN thugs who are under indictment, I believe, in about 17 different states, maybe his "look over there at Cheney" will succeed in keeping the Obamasuck media from "looking over here" i.e. at the latest illegalities of the de factor BHO regime, dumping Inspector Generals.

ps The respected attorney mentioned here, Wolpin, is, I understand, only one of two other Inspector Generals who have been similarly dumped by the Obama's Chicago-inspired Sleaze Machine.


WND OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
Obama fires watchdog who barked at his crony
Rush Limbaugh calls action illegal, 'bigger' than Alberto Gonzales fray
Posted: June 13, 2009
7:25 pm Eastern

By Drew Zahn
© 2009 WorldNetDaily


Gerald Walpin

Former Inspector General Gerald Walpin filed two reports exposing gross misappropriation of federal AmeriCorps funds by a prominent Barack Obama supporter and was shortly thereafter fired by the White House, circumstances he told WND are likely linked and others have called an outright illegal action by the administration.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=101031


gringoman

DEVELOPING: 6TH 'BIRTHER' IN CONGRESS

Posted: July 03, 2009
12:10 am Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

Rep. Marcia Blackburn

U.S. Rep. Marsha Blackburn, a Tennessee Republican, has become the sixth co-sponsor of a proposal by Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla., that would require documentation of eligibility from presidential candidates.

She has joined Reps. John Campbell, R-Calif.; John R. Carter, R-Texas; John Culberson, R-Texas; Bob Goodlatte, R-Va.; and Randy Neugebauer, R-Texas, in support Posey's H.R. 1503 plan.

The bill's provisions are simple:


"To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution."

It also provides:


"Congress finds that under section 1 of article II of the Constitution of the United States, in order to be eligible to serve as President, an individual must be a natural born citizen of the United States who has attained the age of 35 years and has been a resident within the United States for at least 14 years."

The sponsors' goal is to have the bill become effective for the 2012 presidential election, and it now is pending in a committee of the U.S. House of Representatives.

Niall

> First, it is a lawsuit, not a criminal trial so
> nobody is accused of "breaking the law"

Voter intimidation is not "breaking the law"?

> Second, The Plaintiff dropped allegations against
> two of the three defendants. As to the third
> defendant, failure to answer the complaint does not
> relieve the Plaintiff of making a prima facie case
> in court as federal pleading rules to not require
> that the plaintiff file a case with particularity.

The plaintiff in this case is the Justice Department itself, isn't that so? It was the Justice Department that brought the complaint BEFORE it became the OBAMA administration's Justice Department -- now "under new management" it just drops pre-existing actions against thugs who were intimidating voters. OF COURSE they "dropped allegations (etc.)" against the thugs the Obama Justice Department considers its duty to protect. Isn't that just another way of saying the same thing?

> If I recall correctly the issue is whether the
> defendants carrying concealed weapons within 100ft
> of a polling station constitutes voter intimidation.
> The rationale (assumed by the feds to be raised in
> defense if a trial went forward) is that a weapon
> concealed doesn't intimidate unless there is some
> outward manifestation of their presence.

That sounds like pure gobbledegook. If weapons are concealed then by definition there is no "outward manifestation of their presence." In any case I don't see how there was any question of concealment -- the New Black Panther thugs were brandishing nightsticks openly. That was part of the intimidation, and obviously that was the intention.

> The issue of having a concealed weapon in the first
> place is being dealt in the state criminal court and
> thus justice is being served.
Posted by: Phil Wedeen | July 12, 2009 at 09:53 PM

I don't see any connection between that sort of gobbledegook about concealed weapons, which seems completely irrelevant, and the notion "thus justice is being served."

Niall

> It doesn't bother me because November 2010 is coming
> and they can't stop the elections. (*--they can't
> stop them but I'm sure they will have ACORN and
> other thugs out in force to pull an Iran or
> Minnisota again).
Posted by: SteveOk | July 13, 2009 at 07:41 AM

They sure will, and that is worrisome. When you have the thugs supporting the administration by every possible criminal means and the administration protecting the thugs, you are looking at the very real possibility of the entire nation becoming an extended version of Chicago.

Dgscol

Sarah Palin is a fighter. Or is she? Some call her a quitter. What everyone wants to see, is Sarah kissing her political opponents, when she thinks no one is looking.

gringoman

That sounds like pure gobbledegook. If weapons are concealed then by definition there is no "outward manifestation of their presence." In any case I don't see how there was any question of concealment -- the New Black Panther thugs were brandishing nightsticks openly. That was part of the intimidation, and obviously that was the intention.

> The issue of having a concealed weapon in the first
> place is being dealt in the state criminal court and
> thus justice is being served.
Posted by: Phil Wedeen | July 12, 2009 at 09:53 PM

I don't see any connection between that sort of gobbledegook about concealed weapons, which seems completely irrelevant, and the notion "thus justice is being served."

Posted by: Niall | July 13, 2009 at 12:32 PM

The upside about PW, The Visitor From Another ACLU Planet, is that we don't have to speculate about his gobbledeygook. At monicamemo he makes the case himself, exposing his pseudo-intellectual contortions in defense of the ObamACORN Thug Machine (now infesting much of the nation.)

By the way, his gobbledeygook about a subject he has supposedly studied, THE LAW AND ACORN, is only a glimmer of how he hashes Vietnam, a place he clearly never knew and obviously knows nothing about except the platitudes you'd expect from a case like Phil "I Am The Anti-Fascist,You Fascists!" Wedeen.

His recent post, alleging the "American army" in Saigon as the Communist Army surrounded it, would be enough to get him thrown out of any self-respecting high school---unless the Teacher's Union has special exemptions for "our politically correct friends."

Phil Wedeen

Gringoman is still bent on creating a legacy based on his role as a paid propagandist during the Vietnam war.
Smug, self-righteous, and wrong. We just had a taste of here. Gringoman posts crap above about the US actually winning in Vietnam.

Well, one not look too far to see his "journalism" is about the color of piss.The entire South Vietnam was crumbling under the onslaught of the Vietnamese people, ready to endure 3 1/2 million dead, and Gringoman is off investigating the price of steak at the officer's club and cribbing snide notes on how the captured VC are forced to economize.

So what did Gringoman or the Saigon Post write about the Tet Offensive? Fragging of officers by the enlisted ranks? Hue? My-Lai? Civilian death?
Nothing. for Gringoman and the Saigon Post these things never occurred. This was outside of their 'mission'.
Coverage of the hard issues would entail truth and real journalism and gringoman wasn't into either. One day the headlines blair that the war is still winnable and the next day americans evacuate in panic. Ho-Dee-Dough, blame it on the MSM.
This may explain why there was no journalism gig offered Gringoman after this one. One's legacy and reputation are often intertwined.
Historians are lining-up to investigate who was paying for those $20 steaks.

gringoman

Gringoman is still bent on creating a legacy based on his role as a paid propagandist during the Vietnam war.
Smug, self-righteous, and wrong. We just had a taste of here. Gringoman posts crap above about the US actually winning in Vietnam.

Well, one not look too far to see his "journalism" is about the color of piss.The entire South Vietnam was crumbling under the onslaught of the Vietnamese people, ready to endure 3 1/2 million dead, and Gringoman is off investigating the price of steak at the officer's club and cribbing snide notes on how the captured VC are forced to economize.

So what did Gringoman or the Saigon Post write about the Tet Offensive? Fragging of officers by the enlisted ranks? Hue? My-Lai? Civilian death?
Nothing. for Gringoman and the Saigon Post these things never occurred. This was outside of their 'mission'.
Coverage of the hard issues would entail truth and real journalism and gringoman wasn't into either. One day the headlines blair that the war is still winnable and the next day americans evacuate in panic. Ho-Dee-Dough, blame it on the MSM.
This may explain why there was no journalism gig offered Gringoman after this one. One's legacy and reputation are often intertwined.
Historians are lining-up to investigate who was paying for those $20 steaks.

Posted by: Phil Wedeen | July 13, 2009 at 02:12 PM

The Visitor From Another ACLU Planet reminds us of the hot dog eating contest at Coney Island on the 4th of July. But instead of a 138-pound dude cramming frankfurters into his mouth, here we have a little kook cramming idiotburgers down his craw, and furiously. You can almost see the adam's apple working.

It's impossible to keep up with all his lies and imbecilities. Here are just a few.

1. Since the PW fan of idiotburgers is following the Indochina Legacy project mentioned here, with exceptional attention, like a rodent follows cheese, he should know that the dates for the digitizing of this work in Vietnam cover the period late 1969 to Spring 1975. They were clearly stated---clear enough even for an angry kook to understand.

2. If he's not really a crazed lefty ignoramus, he would know that the My Lai Story (which Sy Hersh ripped off from Ron Ridenourt, but this fool wouldn't know that) occured before 1969.

3. When not chomping on dumbburgers, he might also realize that the Tet Offensive occurred before 1969. If he's still not convinced, he could try reading up. It only takes a 9th grade level. Any ACLU-type lawyer should be able to comprehend it.

4. As someone who should be able to read English well enough for a shyster , he would also have noted, while scurrying around the posted Legacy Project, that the author was not involved with The Saigon Post in 1874 or 1975 and very little of 1973.

5. If he can read English well enough for said shyster, then here again he shows himself to be exactly what he's demonstrated in many other references: a shameless liar.

6. Like a typical distortion artist, he mentions the SAIGON NOTES "I' House Incident only with a stupid little reference to "$20 steaks." The story was in fact a vivid illustration of corrupt Government, and referencing CLARK MOLLENHOFF who broke the scandal in the uS while I got details close up in Saigon. But maybe such an honest reference would not have suited Shyster's need to avoid the obvious theme of the SAIGON NOTES feature: Big Booby Government, and how it can settle its rump in Podunk, in Illinois, in Washington and even internationally, as in the US-occupied Saigon I knew.


Will Bubby flee his socialist medicine and come down here to the "fascists" to get help? America takes in refugees even from Kookistan. And there might be work for him with the ACORN indicted.

gringoman

Correction on name of the Vietnam vet who found the story that made a name for Sy Hersh: NOT Ron Ridenourt, but Ron Ridenour.

Coming: DEFIANCE AT FIREBASE O'REILLY. From the Central HIghlands. A Vietnamese soldier who was not "politically correct" enough for US media.

Dgscol

Sotomayor is a cousin to Obama : she is doing what has been determined by minorities works : play psycho games to get elected/approved, and then do what you want after you get in. Sotomayor has reviewed previous judges responses before Congress and is tuning her responses so she is accepted. This is bad. She should be she she is, and let that take her where it will.

Obama hid his global agenda, and Sotomayor is hiding judical review on the basis of foreign law.

Few members of the public want this agenda.

Phil Wedeen

gringoman;

Nobody cares about the missing hamburger at the PX; except of course Dan Cameron and the Saigon Post.

The propagandists job was to create a sense of well-being with little misdemeanors to fool the ranks that all was normal, while ignoring the genocide be committed in the name of the USA.

That you would post here that the US actually won the war is staggering, but indicative.

Your legacy of revisionism with respect to the american defeat in Vietnam and your sorry work with the rear echelon in the meat locker would have the patina of humor had the harm done to people who relied on the Saigon Post for real news wasn't so grave.
Then again your 'journalistic' legacy should be measured by your subsequent assignments and accolades received from colleagues built over an entire career instead of a hole in your resume.

Phil Wedeen

Gringoman equvocates on his shameless attempt to create a legacy out of his work as a propagandist for the Saigon Post:

"3. When not chomping on dumbburgers, he might also realize that the Tet Offensive occurred before 1969. If he's still not convinced, he could try reading up. It only takes a 9th grade level. Any ACLU-type lawyer should be able to comprehend it.

4. As someone who should be able to read English well enough for a shyster , he would also have noted, while scurrying around the posted Legacy Project, that the author was not involved with The Saigon Post in 1874 or 1975 and very little of 1973."

Gringoman knew full well the function of the Saigon Post as a propaganda arm promoting the US mission in Vietnam, as well as his role in it.
To admit here that his tenure post-dated the Tet Offensive which was the decisive turning point signalling the impending US defeat and not seeing a word in the Saigon Post about the Tet offensive would be cause for a real journalist to turn the job down.

But the truth of these assertions lie in that the unravelling of the US military between 1968-1975, the massacres, torture, fragging, defeat, and massive civilian death were not reported by Gringoman or his employer.

Phil Wedeen

More evidence that Gringoman was a propagandist can be seen here:

(From Gringoman's column in the Saigon Post 3-15-1970)

"..The funny or sad part is that he was probably being perfectly honest in his reply. Did the Board of International House ever anticipate such possibilities for hot hands in the "I" House?

Apparently not.

MOLLENHOFF writes: "The US Embassy had the authority to audit the club, but it did not have the specific responsibility to conduct periodic audits. Consequently the club personnel operated with little or no supervision."

ps. Information suitable for this column can be mailed to The Saigon Post. Or leave name on bulletin board at JUSPAO , 145
Nguyen Hue St."


NOTE the address: JUSPAO, 145 Nguyen Hue St.

NOW CHECK OUT THIS CITATION ISSUED TO JUSPAO FOR PYS-OPS and DISINFORMATION:

http://www.vietnam.ttu.edu/star/images/227/2274212002.pdf

It is a citation given to JUSPAO in Vietnam for psy-ops and disinformation published in the newspapers,

"To coordinate all military and civilian activities activities in the field of psychological operations"

"It is composed of both military and civilian personnel in all aspects of the war and pacification program ...to plant and disseminate leaflets, newspaper articles..."
"To increase awareness and support of the American policy in Vietnam"

The award was presented By the USIA, who was also founder and principal shareholder of the english language Saigon Post which itself began publication in the military buildup of 1965 and folded with the fall of Saigon in 1975.
The award was issued in 1971 specifically to the Mission Press Section who, "handles all contacts with correspondents in Vietnam" where "working relationships between the center and JUSPAO are close and continuous"
Close and continuous indeed. Not only was Gringoman's office at JUSPAO, headquarters of psy-ops and disinformation, JUSPAO maintained a hidden controlling interest in the Saigon Post.

With the facts in front of us my gut instinct tells me that young and inexperienced "journalists" where hired on and given assignments to which they unflinching fulfilled that had nothing to do with reporting reality in Vietnam and everything to do with Propaganda.

The connection between the Saigon Post and a coordinated secret campaign of disinformation promoted by the US government explains why the fiasco which became emblematic of America's greatest defeat was never mentioned in the paper right up to and including the fall of Saigon. this would also explain why propagandists working for JUSPAO and its newspaper, the Saigon post, could never find work within the field of professional journalism after their tenure working in psy-ops and disinformation in Saigon.


gringoman

Your legacy of revisionism with respect to the american defeat in Vietnam and your sorry work with the rear echelon in the meat locker would have the patina of humor had the harm done to people who relied on the Saigon Post for real news wasn't so grave.
Then again your 'journalistic' legacy should be measured by your subsequent assignments and accolades received from colleagues built over an entire career instead of a hole in your resume.

Posted by: Phil Wedeen | July 13, 2009 at 07:56 PM

re Phil "I Am the Anti-Fascist, You Yankee Fascists!" Wedeen.

It is now possibly to measure the "hole" in gringoman's resume with scientific accuracy. It is equal in size to the hole in Comrade Wedeen's head.

gringoman

gringoman;

Nobody cares about the missing hamburger at the PX; except of course Dan Cameron and the Saigon Post.

The propagandists job was to create a sense of well-being with little misdemeanors to fool the ranks that all was normal, while ignoring the genocide be committed in the name of the USA.

That you would post here that the US actually won the war is staggering, but indicative.

Your legacy of revisionism with respect to the american defeat in Vietnam and your sorry work with the rear echelon in the meat locker would have the patina of humor had the harm done to people who relied on the Saigon Post for real news wasn't so grave.
Then again your 'journalistic' legacy should be measured by your subsequent assignments and accolades received from colleagues built over an entire career instead of a hole in your resume.

Posted by: Phil Wedeen | July 13, 2009 at 07:56 PM

How are these legal "experts" who combine the traits of shyster with Marxist fanatic, spouting cheap Daily Worker platitudes about places and worlds they never knew, reimbursed? Do they work per diem as foaming attack dogs, or is there a bonus for ACLU affiliation?

And speaking of "accolades" and "career" etc, why do such kooks, after making it an issue, clam up like a bivalve mollusk when it comes to their own, uh, "careers"?

gringoman

The connection between the Saigon Post and a coordinated secret campaign of disinformation promoted by the US government explains why the fiasco which became emblematic of America's greatest defeat was never mentioned in the paper right up to and including the fall of Saigon. this would also explain why propagandists working for JUSPAO and its newspaper, the Saigon post, could never find work within the field of professional journalism after their tenure working in psy-ops and disinformation in Saigon.


Posted by: Phil Wedeen | July 13, 2009 at 11:30 PM

Hmmmmm. "coordinated secret campaign...." "tenure working in psyops and disinformation in Saigon..."

And this is from Comrade Wedeen, who pretends to be an intellectual, trained in the law and rules of evidence, and what constitutes slander, libel and the kind of character assassination we expect from a common guttersnipe?

This ranks with the vomitings of our former trolling kook here---the unlamented Gilbert Slimebert Washington.

Bubby, try to dig up an iota of evidence for your filth that can convince I.Q's above 50. Otherwise, welcome to a title you have fully earned:

SON OF SLIMEBERT,

david

You know what.Get it over with and let them investigate President Bush.I don't personally believe he did anything wrong.But the only way to put it to rest is get it all out in the open.Let them waste the money and try to figure out how to get around all the safeguards put in place by law to protect the president.Put it right up front to the left.Prove it.But make it clear that when we get back in charge you will see us coming.I'm tired of the left and right playing us.If your not doing anything wrong then bring it on.Now I cant even watch the all star game because peanut head is going to be in the dummy booth.Thanks Fox.I'll be back because I'm fed up with all of the bull.On both sides.

Phil Wedeen

Libel and slander? Paleeze!

You worked at JUSPAO. You asked in your Saigon Notes column that readers could contact you there. The SAIGON POST is owned by the USIA and it received an award for propaganda:

NOW CHECK OUT THIS CITATION ISSUED TO JUSPAO FOR PYS-OPS and DISINFORMATION:

http://www.vietnam.ttu.edu/star/images/227/2274212002.pdf

It is a citation given to JUSPAO in Vietnam for psy-ops and disinformation published in the newspapers,

"To coordinate all military and civilian activities activities in the field of psychological operations"

"It is composed of both military and civilian personnel in all aspects of the war and pacification program ...to plant and disseminate leaflets, newspaper articles..."
"To increase awareness and support of the American policy in Vietnam"

I reported here many times that the SAIGON POST did not run ANYTHING critical of the US effort in Vietnam. We now know why.
That by itself demonstrates that you were not a journalist for that paper and were (perhaps unwittingly) part of the propaganda effort.

The ad-hominems won't cut it... perhaps try to recast yourself as a secret agent; it's much more plausible than claiming you did journalism with the Saigon Post.

Correcting the record isn't libel and slander. Substantive rebuttal is welcome, but just calling me a 'marxie' won't help defend your "legacy".


Dgscol

Bush should have been found guilty of insider trading, probably. Instead they picked on Martha Stewart.

The US soldier is a lonely person. No homeland to defend. Their only mission : Defend the banker's investments, and the corporate monopolies. When they come home - unemployment awaits. Cheney/Bush and now Obama are giving Americans this jobs program, better than any other.

thorn66

Wall Steet Journal

Sotomayor Surprises Sessions
July 14, 2008

"Ouch!

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.), seeking to discredit Judge Sonia Sotomayor’s judicial philosophy, cited her 2001 “wise Latina” speech, and contrasted the view that ethnicity and sex influence judging with that of Judge Miriam Cedarbaum, who “believes that judges must transcend their personal sympathies and prejudices.”
Sessions_hearing_DV_20090714121321.jpgAssociated Press
Sen. Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.), ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, questions Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor, during her confirmation hearing before the committee Tuesday. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R., Utah) is at left.

“So I would just say to you, I believe in Judge Cedarbaum’s formulation,” Sessions told Sotomayor.

“My friend Judge Cedarbaum is here,” Sotomayor riposted, to Sessions’ apparent surprise. “We are good friends, and I believe that we both approach judging in the same way, which is looking at the facts of each individual case and applying the law to those facts.”

Cedarbaum agreed.

“I don’t believe for a minute that there are any differences in our approach to judging, and her personal predilections have no effect on her approach to judging,” she told Washington Wire. “We’d both like to see more women on the courts,” she added.

Cedarbaum, a pioneering woman lawyer who graduated from Columbia Law School in 1953, goes way back with both participants in the colloquy. Cedarbaum mentored Sotomayor after she joined the federal district court in Manhattan in 1992, and they have been close friends ever since.

In 1986, Cedarbaum and Sessions were both nominated to the federal bench by President Ronald Reagan, and were members of the same orientation class for future judges. Their paths then diverged, however. Cedarbaum was confirmed, but Sessions nomination floundered over a controversy surrounding comments he made involving the Ku Klux Klan and the NAACP."
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/07/14/sotomayor-surprises-sessions/tab/print/

gringoman

(See gringomanic reply to Canada's Comrade in brackets)

Libel and slander? Paleeze!

You worked at JUSPAO. You asked in your Saigon Notes column that readers could contact you there.

[PW Dingbat gets funnier all the time. Dingie in his little lefty module that never got within 10,000 miles of Vietnam, has got no idea that everybody left messages at JUSPAO. That's one of the things it was for, moron!]

The SAIGON POST is owned by the USIA and it received an award for propaganda:

[Does the Dirtbag have evidence? Would it mind posting it here and forget the stupid link game? Would he dare? I would love to be informed of something I have never heard before, not even from the criminally insane.]

NOW CHECK OUT THIS CITATION ISSUED TO JUSPAO FOR PYS-OPS and DISINFORMATION:

http://www.vietnam.ttu.edu/star/images/227/2274212002.pdf

[What is Nutty Yuppie oozing now? Who but a kook would honor a PAO with "Disinformation"? Also, everybody knows the Pentagon has its own propoganda line, just like Marxist morons and libs have their own propoganda line, Obots have theirs etc etc. My friend and veteran of three combat tours, MAJOR MAC, is dueling with Pentagon types practically every day at http//www.militarycorruption.com / Poor Nutty Yuppie: can't grow up and can't calm down.]

It is a citation given to JUSPAO in Vietnam for psy-ops and disinformation published in the newspapers,

[Ibid to this example of Canadian nutcake.]

"To coordinate all military and civilian activities activities in the field of psychological operations"

"It is composed of both military and civilian personnel in all aspects of the war and pacification program ...to plant and disseminate leaflets, newspaper articles..."
"To increase awareness and support of the American policy in Vietnam"

[Yes. And all media in Saigon understood that and continued to do business with JUSPAO. What is the mindless Marxie's point (aside from the one on his little head)? Everybody knew what JUSPAO was, genius. They also knew that every government does propoganda, but Americans are not limited to that--until we get the Utopia dreamed of by "progressives" like this kook from Canada.

I reported here many times that the SAIGON POST did not run ANYTHING critical of the US effort in Vietnam. We now know why.
That by itself demonstrates that you were not a journalist for that paper and were (perhaps unwittingly) part of the propaganda effort.

[Poor dimwit. Does he think he's addressing those as dim as he? He's gone through years of The Saigon Post? Why does he want to reveal himself here as a liar AND a fool, instead of settling for just one? He hasn't a clue to the 150+ byline pieces in the Saigon Post, including many that equalled and surpassed reports from anyone in the Mainstream media back in CONUS. How do fools like this get through law school? They are awarded a degree in Shyster?]

The ad-hominems won't cut it... perhaps try to recast yourself as a secret agent; it's much more plausible than claiming you did journalism with the Saigon Post.

{Right. Calling someone a liar who knows he has never gone through the years of Saigon Post dailies yet claims to know all about it is, what, ad hominem? Yupnut is getting hilarious. Can this Canadian give evidence that he's not a "progressive" nutjob? We're still waiting for it.]

Correcting the record isn't libel and slander. Substantive rebuttal is welcome, but just calling me a 'marxie' won't help defend your "legacy".

[If a constant flow of lies and distortions and utter stupidities is not libel and slander, what does the ACLU call it?]


Posted by: Phil Wedeen | July 14, 2009 at 01:38 PM

ps For the ignorant "progressives,".... The New York Daily News' Joe Fried made his "office" in JUSPAO for years. Many others in the "mainstream" used it part time. Do idiots in Canada not even measure up to their US counterparts?


gringoman

In 1986, Cedarbaum and Sessions were both nominated to the federal bench by President Ronald Reagan, and were members of the same orientation class for future judges. Their paths then diverged, however. Cedarbaum was confirmed, but Sessions nomination floundered over a controversy surrounding comments he made involving the Ku Klux Klan and the NAACP."
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/07/14/sotomayor-surprises-sessions/tab/print/

Posted by: thorn66 | July 14, 2009 at 02:58 PM

Racism: bad.
Liberal racism: Good.

A wise Latina understands that.

Dgscol

If Bush had been found guilty of insider trading, and this still could happen by the way if he releases papers held in his library requested by FOIA, people would understand there is a seriousness to SEC enforcement. Instead it has come down to a Bush-like "cheat" laugh : get government off your back, Jack.

mjfell

Seriously, after 9-11, would anyone have been disappointed by the news that Osama bin Laden had been found dead? Would anyone have cared that he'd been killed by the CIA?

Oh yeah, we have to account for the traitorous liberal/progressive element which infests American society today with their "compassion", "concern", "empathy", and "sensitivity" towards America's mortal enemies.

Dgscol

Some body finally killed the IMF feed to Obama, that he reads while giving speeches to Americans.

gringoman

SIGN OF THE TIMES

The young guy was sitting on the sidewalk with his dog. The sign, scrawled in heavy ink or charcoal, said, 'PASSING THROUGH.... DOWN ON MY LUCK'
The dog looked good, was very frisky, husky, and short-haired, looking nicely brushed. It was a dark color with black and white around the ears.

I walked right by. At the corner I stopped. I decided to go back. I gave him a dollar and said, "You know why? Your dog. I can see you take good care of it,"

He said, "He's my best friend."

His deep blue eyes,with a half smile, said that he really meant it.

mjfell

Momentum builds toward possible end of this U.S. agency
Rep. Ron Paul: Congress can revoke central bank's charter 'at any time'

A movement to audit the Federal Reserve – the private institution that virtually controls U.S. interest rates, money supply and other economic influences – is gaining momentum in the House and Senate while the Fed ramps up its efforts to thwart scrutiny of its books.

House Resolution 1207, the Federal Reserve Transparency Act, now has 260 co-sponsors with many members of the House Financial Services Committee – where the bill currently resides – signed on already.

Likewise, Senate Bill 604, Federal Reserve Sunshine Act, orders a complete audit of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Reserve Banks before the end of 2010. The bill, sponsored by Sen. Bernie Sanders, D-Vt., has eight co-sponsors and remains in the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs.

Sign WND's petition urging the U.S. Senate to audit the Federal Reserve!

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103852

mjfell

BORN IN THE USA?
Eligibility arguments to get court hearing
'For 1st time, we have a judge who's listening'

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103918

The hearing was on her motion for a default order against Obama, because although Taitz said she notified him of the action, Obama's attorneys did not make an appearance.

Her complaint was filed against the president on Jan. 20, the day of his inauguration, over his actions before he became president.

Taitz has told WND if her motion for default is granted she immediately would request access to Obama's birth records and other documentation that could determine his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.

"I have a very clear case," Taitz said. "I think they dropped the ball. They didn't figure out this case filed on Jan. 20th, on the day of inauguration.

The case was filed on behalf of former U.S. Ambassador Alan Keyes, also a contestant in the 2008 presidential race in California, and others. Taitz said the case might have been confused with another Keyes vs. Obama case filed in the state's court system, which was thrown out and now is on appeal.

"I will be asking for the release of his vital records," she has told WND

mjfell

OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
'Politburo' controlling U.S. policy
Sources say White House cadre bypassing agencies, jeopardizing security

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103910

A small group of officials working mostly from the White House are tightly controlling U.S. foreign policy, bypassing other government agencies and making decisions without employing the expertise of those agencies, according to diplomatic sources speaking to WND.

The sources said some of the decisions may be jeopardizing U.S. security.

A senior Middle East diplomatic source said Secretary of State Hillary Clinton recently apologized to a Mideast leader, explaining to him U.S. policy regarding his country is being dictated by the White House and not her agency.

The diplomatic sources all confirmed Clinton has been largely cut out from the decision-making process, as have U.S. National Security Adviser James Jones and other top figures.

The diplomatic sources identified the White House group largely controlling foreign policy as consisting of President Obama; White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel; top Obama adviser David Axelrod; and National Security Council Director Denis McDonough. Also involved are Mark Lippert, chief-of-staff of the National Security Council; U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice and Jim Messina, White House liaiason to Congress.

The White House did not immediately respond to WND's request for comment.

mjfell

INTERNET NEWS
Google blocks blog exposing homosexual agenda
'Actions represent trial balloon for government censorship of 'hate' speech'

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103902

"Some readers of this blog have contacted Google because they believe this blog's content is objectionable," the warning reads. "In general, Google does not review nor do we endorse the content of this or any blog. For more information about our content policies, please visit the Blogger Terms of Service."

MassResistance blogger Amy Contrada, however, writes that the only potentially "objectionable" items on the blog are photos taken in public settings and her group's politically incorrect viewpoints.

"We publish only facts, 'uncomfortable truths,' not rumors or personal attacks," Contrada writes on her blog. "And obviously, our photos reveal the ugly truth. Then, we identify those public figures who are twisting the law to enable public perversion and subversion of our youth and culture."

"We've had that blog on there since 2005," said Brian Camenker, president of MassResistance, "and only when we started posting on the new transgender bill before the Legislature did this happen.

"If you look at Google's policy on hate speech, they do state you can't include hate against people for their sexual orientation or gender identity," Camenker told WND. "But the things we write are all factual; we don't advocate beating anyone up. On the other hand, there are an enormous number of blogs against religious people that are clearly vile and hateful, particularly during the Proposition 8 battle in California. Some of that content was hideous, and it's still up.

"Nothing on our site could be construed as 'hate,'" Camenker said.

mjfell

Sotomayor double standards

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/14/sotomayor-double-standards/

Every time we talk to Republicans working on the Supreme Court nomination of Judge Sonia Sotomayor, breathless fearfulness creeps into their words. Why, if we ask hard questions about Judge Sotomayor, they say, every Hispanic in America will turn against us. In short, they have bought the Democratic spin.

The Hispanic vote is hardly monolithic -- and many Hispanics remember how poorly Miguel Estrada was treated by the Democrats when he was nominated by President George W. Bush for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia in 2001. Indeed, the experiences of the two nominees deserve a closer look.

In many ways, Mr. Estrada and Judge Sotomayor have similar backgrounds, but Mr. Estrada might have better "street cred." He was 17 and spoke little English when he and his mother came to the United States from Honduras. By contrast, Judge Sotomayor, whose family hails from the U.S. territory of Puerto Rico, had the advantage of growing up in New York City. As a result, Mr. Estrada speaks both Spanish and English fluently while Judge Sotomayor is merely conversant in Spanish, according to the Hispanic Leadership Fund. They both went on to graduate from Ivy League universities and law schools.

What sets them apart is how they were treated by Democratic senators. In 2003, Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick J. Leahy, Vermont Democrat, said: "The White House continues to obstruct any progress toward resolving this matter by its unprecedented refusal to turn over documents requested to determine whether or not Miguel Estrada should sit on the second highest court in the land, for life. Mr. Estrada's nomination is apparently being sacrificed by the administration for its own partisan, political purposes."

The Democrats were requesting confidential memorandums drafted by Mr. Estrada while at the Office of the Solicitor General. This request was unprecedented. All seven living former solicitors general, Republican and Democrat alike, agreed with Mr. Estrada.

Democrats were forthright in their opposition to Mr. Estrada precisely because he is Hispanic. A staff memo to Illinois Democratic Sen. Richard J. Durbin on Nov. 7, 2001, referred to liberal concern that Mr. Estrada was "especially dangerous, because he has a minimal paper trail, he is Latino, and the White House seems to be grooming him for a Supreme Court appointment."

Then-Rep. Robert Menendez, a New Jersey Democrat who now represents the Garden State as a cigar-chomping U.S. senator, said he did not consider Mr. Estrada to be the right kind of Latino. "Being Hispanic for us means much more than having a surname," Mr. Menendez said in February 2003. It means being a predictable liberal.

Judge Sotomayor has enjoyed a comparably easy ride to the Senate. Mr. Estrada waited more than two years for his nomination to come to a vote in the Senate, but a Democratic filibuster never allowed an up-or-down vote to occur. Judge Sotomayor already is experiencing her first Judiciary Committee hearing less than two months after her nomination was announced.

So, Judge Sotomayor will soon make her way to the Supreme Court, while Mr. Estrada is left with only the balm of what might have been. Like Charles Dickens' "A Tale of Two Cities," this tale too ends in an unnecessary tragedy brought on by an unruly mob that cannot see individuals, only groups.

mjfell

ObamaCare Yay Or Nay? The Truth About Canada!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw

mjfell

Israeli Warships Push Much Closer to Iran

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:40 AM


JERUSALEM -- Two Israeli warships sailed through the Suez Canal on Tuesday, Israeli and Egyptian officials said, a move that appeared to be a new signal to Iran that Israel's reach could quickly extend to its archenemy's backyard.

The Suez Canal is a strategic waterway linking the Mediterranean to the Red Sea, the gateway to the Persian Gulf. Use of the Egyptian-controlled canal means Israeli naval vessels could reach waters off Iran in a matter of days, instead of taking a much longer route around Africa.

Israeli vessels regularly use the canal. But what is noteworthy in recent weeks is that the navy's moves have been publicized, albeit unofficially, by Israel.

Two of Israel's Saar class missile boats crossed through the Suez Canal and into the Red Sea, Israeli defense officials said. Speaking on condition of anonymity because the move was not officially publicized, they said it was connected to "the navy's recent activities around the Red Sea."

A Suez Canal official in Egypt confirmed the report.

Israel considers Iran its most serious threat, citing Tehran's nuclear program, its support for anti-Israel militant groups and bellicose statements by its hardline president. Israel believes Iran is developing nuclear weapons _ a charge Iran denies _ and has refused to rule out military action if Iran pushes forward with its atomic program.

Earlier this month, Israeli defense officials said one of the navy's Dolphin class submarines had also sailed to the Red Sea through the Suez Canal in June, returning July 5. Beyond the ability to threaten shipping, some foreign media reports say Dolphins can fire nuclear-tipped cruise missiles and serve as Israel's deterrent "second-strike" capability, allowing Israel to launch nuclear weapons from afar even if the country itself is targeted by a nuclear attack.

"There is nothing unusual about the navy being in those waters _ they often train there," said Shlomo Brom, a former Israeli general and a security expert at the Institute for National Security Studies.

"What is unusual, though, is that this information was made public. I believe it was likely leaked on purpose in order to signal to Iran that Israel has the capability of reaching them," Brom said.

Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit said that under a long-standing treaty, warships can freely sail through Suez as long as they have no hostile intentions against the state that owns the canal. He declined to say whether the maneuver was aimed at sending a message, saying "I don't want to analyze an issue that I am not fully aware of."

Niall

> Niall:
> While I sympathise with your concerns of voter
> intimidation your source is (surprise)intentionally
> misleading.
> Posted by: Phil Wedeen | July 12, 2009 at 09:53 PM

Here's another source saying essentially the same thing, Phil. Note that even the liberal Civil Rights Commission sees it this way and does not agree with your objections:


The Washington Times
Tuesday, July 7, 2009
EDITORIAL: Return of the Black Panther

Rarely does the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights vote unanimously on anything.

A partisan divide has made the commission contentious in recent years. Yet the Department of Justice's decision to forfeit its voter-intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party and three individual defendants drew a 6-0 vote with one abstention by the commission. What unified the commission was outrage at the Justice Department for letting the Black Panthers off the hook.

The Civil Rights Commission has sent two letters -- on June 16 and June 22 -- to Loretta King, acting assistant attorney general for the civil rights division, asking for an explanation, but it has not received a response. Rep. Frank R. Wolf, Virginia Republican, sent a June 8 letter demanding an explanation, but the congressman told us he has yet to receive an answer from the department one month later.

The Civil Rights Commission's first letter expressed its "great confusion" over the department's decision. After all, "defendants were caught on video blocking access to the polls, and physically threatening and verbally harassing voters during the November 4, 2008 general election." The video showed "one of them actually brandished a nightstick in plain view of voters and poll observers ... defendants 'made statements containing racial threats and racial insults.' "

The commission's letter quoted "Veteran of the civil rights movement, Bartle Bull" calling the defendants' actions "the most blatant form of voter intimidation I have encountered in my life in political campaigns in many states, even going back to the work I did in Mississippi in the 1960s."

The commission summed up the case in its June 16 letter to Ms. King: "Though it had basically won the case ... the [Department of Justice's Civil Rights] Division took the unusual move of voluntarily dismissing the charges .... In its notice of dismissal, the Division cites as its rationale only the fact that defendants failed to appear and respond ... the Division's public rationale would send the wrong message entirely - that attempts at voter suppression will be tolerated and will not be vigorously prosecuted so long as the groups or individuals who engage in them fail to respond to the charges leveled against them."

Lenore Ostrowsky, a commission spokesman, told us, "It is rare for a letter from the commission over the last four years to be sent out without any dissent." There's good reason for today's unanimity. One of the Black Panther defendants, Jerry Jackson, is an elected member of Philadelphia's 14th Ward Democratic Committee and was a credentialed poll watcher for Barack Obama and the Democratic Party when the intimidation occurred. We agree with the concern at the Civil Rights Commission. The Justice Department needs to explain why it is not pursuing charges against these thugs.

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