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March 27, 2008

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FK

How dramatic. Now take into account that, at this time, Clinton and Obama are about even in delegates. Would any of us be so ready to throw in the towel if it was us?

Truther

Somebody please unchain Fred.

SteveOk

Monica, please don't compare Hillary to the great General William T. Sherman. His scorched Earth policy was to save the Union and break the back of the South, which he did. Her sworched Earth policy is simply an ego trip. Let her fight on until the Democratic Party is destroyed. She is commanding imaginary armies and giving orders to no one but political hangers-on who are willing to jump over the cliff with her. People like Carville and Begala are more than willing to continue kissing her backside and jump over the cliff with her, so let them all go down and stay in the bunker until those monkeys come flying out of that place.

FK

You all may not like her as a candidate, but you exaggerate how "evil" she is. She's ambitious, stubborn, and tough, and you may disagree with her. That does not put her at the same level of immorality and malevolence of, say, a Dick Cheney or a Karl Rove, or even a George W. Bush, who is a perfect combination of evil and dopiness.

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Monica,

While Clinton and Obama answered McCain's paean to free market economics with ideas for larger government and higher taxes, McCain deliver yesterday what could be known as the McCain Doctrine for foreign policy ... an outstanding vision of America in the future that goes well beyond the problem of Iraq. China, Russia, Latin America, Europe, nuclear proliferation were all treated with deft analysis.

This is a good man and conservatives should figure out how to help him. This will not be a third Bush term by any means.

Best wishes,

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Fred,

I disagree that Bush is evil, but agree that he is the lap dog George Will once accused his father of being, perhaps uncharitably. I never understood what the 29% of the population saw in junior.

I was put off when he called himself a "compassionate conservative", as if the two words could not be uttered in a single sentence before he conjured up the phrase. In my humble view, he turned out to be neither, and probably did conservatism harm by the tacit suggestion that conservatives lacked a heart.

I am beginning to think McCain could change all that, if we could all just be a little flexible on his position regarding torture (when was that ever a conservative prinicple?) and work with him on fine-tuning immigration policy.

Cheers,

M/M

Hint, hint.

http://www.pr-inside.com/one-time-bitter-rivals-mccain-romney-r506348.htm

M/M

Monica,

Thanks for getting the camera on El Bernardo del Bronx. Don Imus introduced Bernie in a very special way this morning:

http://www.wabcradio.com/Article.asp?id=634361&spid=22807

(Gringoman and Allah, if you don't like the interview, which WAS funny, skip to 11 minutes to hear El Bernardo).

Allah here is Bernard as he was before. (Free Republicans like him)

As Mayor Ray Nagin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7GcZ7rPfYE

As Cardinal Egan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flgrxMsJlT0

John McCain will be a guest on "Imus in the Morning" next week.

Allah Schmallah

I never thought I'd hera myself say this but Hitlery may well be our last best chance to save us from the Mandchurian Candidate Obama.

He who hangs out with Black-Nazi preachers and has a Hillary-with-a-tan for a wife.. he who plans to send billions of our tax money to Africa..

He whose church endorses FarraKKKan.

You tell me he was in this "church" for 20 years and he never noticed anything?!

Compared to Komrade Obama Hitlery/Shrillery or whatever we call her - yes the one who kissed Arafart's wife - compared to the Big Empty she may well be the lesser evil.

Frankly I don't think the old Fuddywud can win and i am not even sure I want him to.

Just because I am AGAINST somebody doesn't have to mean I am FOR somebody else.

This is the worst field of candidates ever.. and there are still three of them left.

I know K has his Bush obsessions but this is WAY WORSE than Botox Kerry vs. Corrupt Bush was.

We have the threat of the Mandchurian Pied Piper of Global Multikulti opening the floodgates of our money OUT of and illegals and moslems ie. terrorists and islamists INTO the country.

M/M

Kind of a surreal feeling isn't it?

gringoman

M/M,

I'm still out of ILR (Imus Listening Range) but that will change fairly soon. If Imus is beginning to give his Old Reliable, i.e. Bernardo, some face time, I will count that as partial redemption for his groveling to de Rev Al Sharpton last year, Imus acting like a hick in panic and must have embarrassed millions who liked him---and appreciate his unusual interview techniques. (Let us underline 'partial' redemption.)

Now be sure to let me know when Bernard's Mayor Nagin comes back, LIVE, not on archival tape.

McCain now schmoozing with Mitt Romney? This seems to be following the script suggested by the crystal gringoBall earlier this year, when I plumped for Romney as VP---despite their differences and fact that I have never been the absolute fan of The Mitt that perhaps our Monica is. Opposites can attract, in this case a hawk and a chicken hawk who has raised five strapping chicken hawks. Besides, Johnny Boy clearly needs something the smooth chicken hawk has plenty of: economy cred and even some conservative cred (maybe not that much, but all things are relative to Johnny Boy.)

Michael Avari:

McCain seems to be quite committed to defending Iraq's borders. Can you point to anything indicating an equal committment to US borders and sovereignty---I mean that might persuade the non-booby portion of the constituency? Are you familiar with a key advisor (and possible crony) of his on immigration, the Mexican Dr. Hernandez?

Understand, I don't claim that Johnny's Doctor Hernandez has NORTH AMERICAN UNION and NAFTA SUPER
HIGHWAY branded on his Phd. buttocks, but such an associate raises questions. Or do you think not?

gringoman

M/M,

I'm still out of ILR (Imus Listening Range) but that will change fairly soon. If Imus is beginning to give his Old Reliable, i.e. Bernardo, some face time, I will count that as partial redemption for his groveling to de Rev Al Sharpton last year, Imus acting like a hick in panic and must have embarrassed millions who liked him---and appreciate his unusual interview techniques. (Let us underline 'partial' redemption.)

Now be sure to let me know when Bernard's Mayor Nagin comes back, LIVE, not on archival tape.

McCain now schmoozing with Mitt Romney? This seems to be following the script suggested by the crystal gringoBall earlier this year, when I plumped for Romney as VP---despite their differences and fact that I have never been the absolute fan of The Mitt that perhaps our Monica is. Opposites can attract, in this case a hawk and a chicken hawk who has raised five strapping chicken hawks. Besides, Johnny Boy clearly needs something the smooth chicken hawk has plenty of: economy cred and even some conservative cred (maybe not that much, but all things are relative to Johnny Boy.)

Michael Avari:

McCain seems to be quite committed to defending Iraq's borders. Can you point to anything indicating an equal committment to US borders and sovereignty---I mean that might persuade the non-booby portion of the constituency? Are you familiar with a key advisor (and possible crony) of his on immigration, the Mexican Dr. Hernandez?

Understand, I don't claim that Johnny's Doctor Hernandez has NORTH AMERICAN UNION and NAFTA SUPER
HIGHWAY branded on his Phd. buttocks, but such an associate raises questions. Or do you think not?

Posted by: gringoman | March 28, 2008 at 02:22 AM

gringoman

By the way, does anyone whooping it up for Johnny Boy think that he is aware of how dangerous Illegalismo is for the National health, as specified by Dr. Douglas?

Note: why bother even asking this of the Democrats? Their equation is written already.

Big Government + Big Disease = Big Nanny.

But it is, in fact, superbly bipartisan. Pubs get the business, Dems win the sick masses, taxpayers get the bill.

Don't forget to vote!

http://www.douglassreport.com/reports/immigration_XRHBJ303.html


M/M

More examples of liberal hypocrisy:

Last year

http://www.abcnews.go.com/politics/story?id=3031317&page=1

This year

http://www.kowabunga.org/?p=1837

Yes, we need to fire and destroy the careers of two guys who were merely repeating common lyrics from hip hop music and lines from a Spike Lee music at 6:00 a.m. for the "sake of the children". But it ok to take your kids to this church for 20 years, or let them watch and listen to some of the stuff on BET and MTV.

Kind of reminds me of the logic used by the "luv guy" who spent a portion of his career busting call girl rings and extending the sentence of johns from 3 months to 1 year, while interfacing with these women on his off time.

M/M

Gringoman,

I wasn't a Don Imus fan originally, I was a "Today" show fan. I thought the Ray Nagin skits were funny, just like I think some skits on SNL are funny. The reason I Iiked "Imus in the Morning" was not because of the skits, but because of the relaxed atmosphere and "one-liners" exchanged between Imus, Bernie, Charles and some of his guests.

Actually, I do think the Don Imus show is much improved now that we got rid of the boring interviews with those NBC and MSNBC people. I never really appreciated Imus' interviewing skills because he was forced by those networks to promote all the weasels who work for MSNBC and NBC. Even with Imus' interviewing skills, there is just no way to make some of those people interesting. Now, that he get rid of the losers, he has more time to invite more interesting people on his show. Here is one of his better interviews:

http://www.slaverybyanothername.com/index.php?section=1

Imus just read a complaint that WABC received on one of his skits, performed by the two new cast members. The complaint was from an a "special interest" group who was was offended by the content of the skit and threatened the advertisers.

Well, we don't want to offend the Democrats or the "special interest groups", so instead of listening to Don Imus and interviews like the one above, I've decided to become more open to the new Reverands. We need to keep playing MORE of Reverand Wright's sermons so we can become more tolerant. Maybe, we should rent some Spike Lee movies and see what message they are teaching our children. Here is Snoop Dogg.

http://www.completealbumlyrics.com/lyric/99982/Snoop+Dogg+-+%28Tear+%27Em+Off%29+Me+%26+My+Doggz.html

Gringoman, if you want to listen to Imus, Curtis, Monica on Saturday's or anyone other SPECTACULAR radio show on WABC just google WABC radio and you can listen live.

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Gringoman:

McCain has said in no uncertain terms in the primary debates and on his web site that he views border security as essential to immigration reform. He also recognizes that building a container around the USA is not a singular solution. As a free marketer, I am in favor of NAFTA, CAFTA, and an eventual N./S. America free trade zone and democracy zone. One cause of illegal immigration is a differential in economic opportunity and quality of life between the two Americas. Economic freedom will address the first, and a more active role in replacing dictators with democrats (small "d") will address the last. A read of what I call the McCain Doctrine (his foreign policy speechs) shows that McCain understands both.

On the details of what we do with the current illegals, McCain may need some help from us. But I would rather start with "They are all God's children" than with "Let's round up and deport 12 million people."

Your thoughts?

Regards,

FK

Michael --

I am more and more impressed with your reasoning and your views. Unfortunately, on this blog you will find that you are dealing with the "Let's round up and deport 12 million people" crowd.

And at least one of the contributors would like worse than deportation to be imposed on any of those 12 million that are Muslim (can anyone figure out which contributor I mean?).

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Thank you Fred. That is very kind.

(I'm not touching that last question, though, with 10 ft. pole!)

Cheers,

Ref.BB

Ouch! But at the very least, I hope for the Dems sake that both Democratic candidates form a "Dream Team," that will be a deadly one, two, knockout. (Nice guy, Bad girl)

Allah Schmallah

I am beginning to think McCain could change all that, if we could all just be a little flexible on his position regarding torture (when was that ever a conservative prinicple?) and work with him on fine-tuning immigration policy.

Cheers,

Posted by: Michael Avari

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Michael, with all due respect.. but our immigration policy needs a lot more than a fine-tune. We need a complete overhaul and a return the the Principles of Law.

We need our government to ENFORCE EXISTING LAW. That's all.

And if we need physical deterrent in form of deportation on the one hand and barriers on the other then those are the tools mandated by the imperative of enforcing our existing Laws.

I am not going to argue who is "God's children" but that has nopthing to do with some of "God's children" being in the country illegally and contributing less than their share in taxes and more than their share in crime.

Shouldn't newcomers be the exact opposite and bring somethign to the table?

Now all of this would be tolerable and less egregious were it not for the terrorists from the Middle east posing as Hispanics and blending in across the border.

Surely noone - with the notable exception of the deluded K - would want a situation which gives access to jihadists across our borders to continue.

Let's look at these borders as our "Maginot Line".. No need for our enemies to go through Belgium to get into the heartland..

I call this a prescription for insanity. Which brings me right back to LiEberalism.

Michael you can try to be all civil with the uncivilized but the longer we wait the greater one day the bloodletting will have to be.

LiEberals need to start to be put in their place. They are endangering not only themselves but all of us.

I cannot allow this insanity to go on without speaking strongly against it.

FK

You could start by spelling the word "liberals" instead of continuing to be obnoxious and spelling it "liEberals", viewing liberalism as a political way of thinking instead of repeatedly saying it's a mental disorder, and understanding that most of the people who are in this country illegally are seeking a better way of life, not to hurt us. Note: I said "most", not "all"; I'm not that naive.

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Al,

I admire and appreciate your passion, and recognize like you the problem. I am not sure if any government, federal or local can enforce the laws we have. They comprise a convoluted concoction of patch work to address tactical problems and not an overall US policy.

We need a complete overhaul of the immigration policy, and should be wary of characters like Bill Gates arguing for greater flexiblity in importing tech workers while we have illegals lingering in limbo for up to 16 years. Do we want the illegals here to pay taxes? Let's press on cash-rich companies like Microsoft and IBM to train them, for example, and help them through the maze that is the INS. Perhaps this generation will not become Java programmers, but their progenitors might. Just one idea ...

When I speak of "fine tuning" I was refering (I hope) to McCain's policy, which seems fairly broad-reaching, not our current mess. Six and a half years after 9/11, it is national disgrace to still be talking about porous borders.

By the way, I trust you meant Fred is disillusioned, like most of us are with government's ineffectiveness, not "deluded". We may have more in kind than we think.

Peace.

FK

Michael --

I like the way you think more than most pundits or politicians. Do you have any ambition to run for any offices?

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If I do, I promise to run as the candidate of change!

FK

The way the economy is going, change is all we'll have.

Allah Schmallah

Somebody please unchain Fred.
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Dude.. I think he's OFF DA HOOK!!

FK

Allah S -- Saying something constructive instead of lashing out at me might be helpful.

Michael -- Do you understand why I lose my temper with this guy?

Allah Schmallah

K-Fred.. you just don't get it.. I keep saying constructive things and you refuse to deal with the issues, friend!

Liberalism *IS* a mental disorder.. while I am one to ridicule you and the likes of you.. I would never ever think nor would I say that you deserve death.. which is EXACTLY what the jihadists have in mind for you and I *BOTH*.

I need you to understand the SEVERITY of the situation.. I am trying desperately to win the hearts and minds of our head-in-the-sand liberal compatriots re. the MENACE we all face.

This is not a joke.

look at the history of Lebanon to get a clue.

Lebanon once was a thriving Majority-Chirstian [which I am not - I am an agnostic FYI] and look at its present state.. non-moslems persecuted and fleeing en masse.. those are the folks I do say we MUST grant refuge to in the Western World.

They are our kin!

And that goes for both liberals and conservatives of all stripes.

We SHOULD take in those who are genuinely persecuted by a "faith" which operates much like the BORG.

I am NOT at all against giving shelter to those who come in genuine need and without pre-conditions and malice in their heart.

Those are indeed the people who serve to remind us of the fragility of the very things we all take so very much for granted.

if I could only get through to the thick-skulled liberals that we truly want for the very same things...

Ahhh.. for crying out loud.. they just don't GET IT!!!

Which is why we are in the very fight for our lives.

PS. Chamberlain apologized to Winston Churchill for misjudging the situation when he was on his deathbed.. he realized the grave errors of his ways..

We do not need any more deathbed conversions.

We need ALL freedom-loving CITIZENS of the West to JOIN together and defend our NON-NEGOTIABLE Principles which we should all hold dear and in common.

Am I being unreasonable here?

Let others like Michael Avari tell me if I am wrong to be asking the liberals to UNDERSTAND this??!!

K-Fred.. In essence I am frustrated because I really really thing that when the mortar falls among us that I need to knwo I can count on you and ther likes of you in the trenches when all our lives are at stake!

I know I'd dive on top of you seeing a mortar shell coming toward you.

That is simply my instinct which makes me a 'conservative'.. as in SAVE LIVES.. to CONSERVE..

GET IT??!!

It would be so much better knowing that others had the same instinct to have my back should the time ever come.

M/M

Michael,

I've been searching for as much documentation as I can find to support my points, but this is the best I can do. I've not been able to get throught the spam filters so I'm going to try to post one point at a time.

In Defense of the Fence:

Illegal immigration brings gangs, drugs, diseases, and crime which reduce property values. Congressman Duncan Hunter reduced human and drug trafficking by 90% when he built a fence in his district. I remember reading that the fence also increased property values.

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/duncan-hunter-border-fence-part-1-of-2-nov-9-2007/2745663400

M/M

In addition to crime, illegal immigration is impacting our wallets. Here are some points from an article by Patrick Buchanan:

"Major consequences flow from having an immigration stream that ignores education or skills. Immigrants are now more likely than native-born Americans to lack a high school education. More than a quarter of our immigrant population receives some kind of welfare, compared to 15 percent of native-born. Before the 1965 bill, immigrants were less likely to receive welfare. In states with many immigrants, the fiscal impact is dramatic. The National Academy of Sciences contends that immigration has raised the annual taxes of each native household in California by $1,200 a year. But the real burden is felt by native-born workers, for whom mass immigration means stagnant or falling wages, especially for America's least skilled. "

We are seeing how the Hispanic vote is impacting the presidential election, but it is impacting local elections too. As Patrick Buchanan points out:

"Voting in referendums that play a growing part in the politics of California is now breaking down sharply on ethnic lines. Hispanic voters opposed Proposition 187 to cut off welfare to illegal aliens, and they rallied against it under Mexican flags. They voted heavily in favor of quotas and ethnic preferences in the 1996 California Civil Rights Initiative, and, again, to keep bilingual education in 1998. These votes suggest that in the California of the future, when Mexican-American voting power catches up with Mexican-American population, any bid to end racial quotas by referendum will fail. A majority of the state's most populous immigrant group now appears to favor set-asides and separate language programs, rather than to be assimilated into the American mainstream".

As Pat points out, concerns about immigration and assimilating immigrants into the American culture are as "American as apple pie". Even Benjamin Franklin expressed concerns:

"There is another drawback to mass immigration: a delay in the assimilation of immigrants that can deepen our racial and ethnic divisions. As in Al Gore's "Out of One, Many."
Concerns of this sort are even older than the Republic itself. In 1751, Ben Franklin asked: "Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them?" Franklin would never find out if his fears were justified. German immigration was halted by the Seven Years War; then slowed by the Great Lull in immigration that followed the American Revolution. A century and half later, during what is called the Great Wave, the same worries were in the air."

http://www.buchanan.org/pa-00-0118-immigration.html

M/M

Now, that the economy is turning downward Americans are demanding that the government DO SOMETHING about illegal immigrants. Not only do we NOT want to support them through our taxes dollars, but they are taking OUR jobs. From meat packing plants in Iowa to factories in Rhode Island, stories are emerging about American citizens LINING UP for jobs that were once filled by illegal immigrants.

Patrick Buchanan discusses illegal immigration in his books STATE OF EMERGENCY AND DAY OF RECKONING. In this interview with Lou Dobbs, Pat discusses how "securing the border north and south and deporting felons and gang members is a great start"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VALL26CPeyg

As for the argument that you can't deport 12 million people, there is some evidence that illegals will leave voluntarily if the GOVERNMENT ENFORCED the laws. Oklahoma, Arizona and Rhode Island are implementing tough new laws that are making it more difficult for illegals.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode_island/articles/2008/03/26/ri_governor_to_sign_executive_order_related_to_immigration/?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed4

M/M

Here is Pat's opinion on NAFTA. In his book DAY OF RECKONING, he shows how many new automobile factories have opened in Mexico and how many of OUR JOBS were exported to Mexico.

http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=958

In this article by Patrick Buchanan, Pat explains the problems our auto industry faces when competing against the Japanese.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=19457#continueA

In his books, Patrick Buchanan also discusses how previous administrations recognized the benefits of assimilation to our culture. A "common culture and a common language" unites the country while multiculturalism divides it.

FK

Allah S. --

Don't count on me. When the country is burning, I'll be pouring kerosene on you. LOL.

Dave

As long as Hillary remains around, Obama is at peril. She has already shown that she will not allow the TRUTH to get in the way of her candidacy--making her the uncandid candidate.

The Clintons are extremely dangerous people. Additionally when their backs are to the wall and the threat is most dangerous, they perform at their best. That time is now upon us. HRC not only needs a win in PA, she needs to decimate her opponent. To do so, she must now dig up dirt and reveal things that most in her party assumed only the GOP would do. For her campaign to remain alive they need to dominate, PA but also win in NC & IND, which are not small states like the others that Obama has taken. Watch for HRC to either unleash BILL or some friend in the press, who will keep the Rev Wright story alive. Evidently Wright & Obama were shaking down banks together for years. In addition look for HRC to demand more info regarding Rezko. OBTW why isn't that a front page story, he's about to take down the gov of ILL. For added measure, I would look for Bill to follow up his Patriot jab with implications regarding Baraks friendship with Ayers and his admission in his bio of seeking out Marxists. This thing is far from over

Besides me, did anyone else think Al Gore looked very presidential on 60 minutes? Thought he looked great, but not nearly as great as John mcCain or any other Republican candidate who would be nominated in 2008.

FK

You are right. Gore looked great. He should have been our president.

Does anyone really have a problem with Hillary Clinton continuing to fight? What's so great about Obama anyway, other than he speaks well? Is there something in that suit? And since they are running about even, why should she withdraw?

Until I see some reason why this young man with little national experience and whose accomplishments are . . . I can't think of any!!! . . . deserves to be president, I say: Fight on, Hillary!

Allah Schmallah

K-Fred, I would have expected some violence from u. I am always right when it comes to LiEberals.

It's telling that you would fantasize about pouring kerosine on me, K-Fred.

Sure you're not a jihadist?

I'd just slap you and watch you cry.

As for your question re. Obama.. he's black. So he can do no wrong. Same for the media coverage he's getting.

They're getting tingles in their pants instead of asking the right questions.

LiEberals think that by supporting Obama they can wash away their perceived guilt and institutionalized self-loathing which has been drummed into them.

The chickens are coming home to roost for the Dhimmicrat Party.

Let's just hope that they won't come home to roost for the Nation.

FK

Allah S. --

Barbecuing you wouldn't be any more violent than waterboarding. What kind of sauce would go best with you?

FK

BTW Allah S., I don't loathe myself; I loathe you.

So far, Obama hasn't given me much reason to support him other than eloquence, but I'm waiting. I voted for Clinton in my primary.

Allah Schmallah

So now K-Fred is not only a LiEberal but also a cannibal..

And where did I ever say I wanted to waterboard u Fred?!

I want to see evidence of that one since you're implying I said that.

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