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February 28, 2008

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Ree

I don't know Monica,

It looks like someone ??? is sharpening their partisan attacks but you know I don't hear anything about Senator Clinton in this scenario which probably suits her fine right about now.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-mentor-gives-farrakhan-his-award

Ree

I don't know Monica,

It looks like someone ??? is sharpening their partisan attacks but you know I don't hear anything about Senator Clinton in this scenario which probably suits her fine right about now.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-mentor-gives-farrakhan-his-award

FK

This one is for Allah Schmallah. It's not just Muslims that mistreat people. Check out how some Christians treated their guest:

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/exchange-student-starved-while-in-egypt/20080227152009990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

FK

I told you all a long time ago that Bloomberg was not going to run.

Jack Flynn

It will most likely be an Obama/Clinton ticket or a Clinton/Obama ticket—a dream team of the highest order. The Republicans and the war enthusiasts are in total denial about the peoples concerns, needs and wishes and even though they will bring out every dirty carlrovian trick in their repetoire, I predict a landslide—70-30 or 65-35 victory for the Democrats in November.
The Repubs just don't get it—especially conservative Repubs. Their own lack of vision, stubburness and selfishness are responsible. The country is sick to death of them, their failed policies and their unscrupulous and immoral swiftboat tactics.
The people will not be fooled again.
The momentum toward a totally new direction is at hand and is overwhelming. Conservative Repubs,(though they will scramble and fight like hell), will be the last to GET IT!
They won't see the inside of the Whitehouse for a quarter century or more, or at least until they finally wake up, (if ever), and grasp the real priorities that are on the minds of everyday working Americans and their families.
It will be a momentous task, but Obama and Hillary will be ready and able on "day one" to take the reins and repair the incomprehensible and shameful damage the Bush administration has sown.
The Dream team will set proper and practical priorities in homeland security, the economy, healthcare, infrastructure, energy, Constitutional liberties and International diplomacy that will usher in a new era of accomplishment we can actually be proud of.
The future is now and the Repubs have missed the boat. Bush and Chaney will retire to their respective pastures to lick their wounds and contemplate their war crimes and won't be heard from again, except as caricatured representatives of incompetence, ignorance, betrayal and anachronistic thinking.
Hope, vision and competence is the future for America and finally we will have two,(not one), exceptionally gifted and decent leaders to guide us there.
Do you sense a little optimism here?
Well, let me tell you. It is more than that. It is our future and it cannot be stopped by small minded, angry, ultranatinalistic reactionaries, like Monica Crowley and the sycophantic, idolatrous skirt hangers prevalent on this blog and elsewhere.

FK

I wish I could agree with you, Jack.

First, I don't see a Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton ticket. They are two strong personalities, and one will not take the VP position so the other can be the star. Also, two Senators is traditionally a losing ticket. Richardson is still the prime candidate for VP.

Second, I'm not so sure the Democrats can win. McCain is generally respected by people across the spectrum. I myself will not be miserable if McCain wins. I am not full of hatred for McCain, as I am for Bush.

I am afraid that when people get in that booth, they will vote for what they are used to: an old white man.

However, as the first candidate for president represetning a major political party, Obama will still make history.

Ree

Hold on Obama, Angelina Jolie knows a little something about pulling out too early.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/28/we-cant-abandon-iraq-now-says-angelina-jolie/

FK

It's the Pottery Barn principle. We broke it, now we have to fix it.

It's possible to believe that the situation is Bush's fault, AND that we can't leave now.

The most instructive lesson from history may be our involvement in the Philippines. We should not have been there, but once we were there, we were kind of stuck. Coincidentally, we tarnished our reputation there by resorting to the "water cure". Maybe under a new adminstration, we will do better over there.

Jack Flynn

Fred,
I think their personalities complement each other, whereas there is a strong bull sh#tter side to Richardson's personality—a tendency to offer only a piece of the truth too easily and complacently for momentary political expediency. When he does think before he speaks there is often a carnival barker tone to it. These are serious times with serious things that need to be done. Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama know that well. With Obama/Hillary or Hillary/Obama, there is less of a chance that the disappointed side would turn to McCain because both sides would be pretty satisfied that their man or woman is involved, as the polls consistently demonstrate. It's not a question of who is the star. It is a question of bringing in votes. The hard core misogonyst Hillary haters will remain Hillary haters no matter what. Who needs them? It is the women who will vote for Hillary and the women who don't particularly want her and have turned to Obama that will count the most. The mysogonists, Bush devotees and racists will turn to the Republicans per usual so what would be lost except the ones who would go there anyhow. (I am not suggesting that McCain is a mysogonyst or racist any more than Farrakhan's endorsement makes Barack a racist.) I also see a considerable number of dissatisfied moderate Republicans turning to Obama. They don't talk about it much, but they are there. George Bush's policies and the Conservatives have pretty much shaken the foundation of the Republican party and that wing will cause them severe damage in the general election, not to mention the ones who won't vote at all. The Democratic turnout has dwarfed the Republican turnout in the primaries which I believe is symptomatic of their situation and won't change much in November. The Independents are likely to be evenly split between Obama and McCain.
If Obama wins the nomination and he chooses not to put Hillary on the ticket, I think Edwards would be a much better choice than Richardson.

Allah Schmallah

It's not just Muslims that mistreat people. Check out how some Christians treated their guest:

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/exchange-student-starved-while-in-egypt/20

Fred Special K.. u r comparing apples and oranges and u know it. Moslem mistreatment of others is systeic. In fact their cult mandates it. I've read the relevant passages in the KKKoran.

What these Coptic Christians did was against the teachings of their own religion.

Maybe too much mooseleemb influence for them..?

Tu quoque anyone?

q.e.d.

Allah Schmallah

Hey Jack Flynn.. I suggest you have Cindy Sheehadan as your Secretary of Sate.

Allah Schmallah

Guys, the nightmare doesn't end there.. can you say: Halbright, Reno, Reich, Burglar, Brzezinski, Ramsey Clark..?

Have I left out any of the leftwing moonbats that are circling over the White House already as we speak?

If The Big Empty and/or Hitlery get in we'll have a more leftwing government than France!

The French will have to take the torch as leaders of the Free World.

Jack Flynn

Comon Allah, learn to bend with the wind. Watch how the good guys do it. You might learn something.

FK

Allah Schmallah --

While you were reading the Koran, did you also re-read your Bible and consider the violence that is encouraged in that book, as well? We can't condemn all Muslims without examining the violence done in the name of Judeo-Christian values. It's not a pleasant history.

gringoman

ATTENTION Republican Chicken Hawks!
ATTENTION Democratic Chicken Chickens!

Monica,

Despite all the brouhaha over which Border Buster will replace Jorgecito Bush in 2008, can you ignore what is really one of the best war stories this year?

Prince Harry, one of the heirs to the British Throne, proved he's not just another celeb. He did what he had long wanted to do and what our precious American chicken hawks and our precious American chicken chickens will not do---go to war and put precious American pooper in mortal danger. He went where you cannot glib your way out of the facts.

Questions:

Which of our partisan hacks, Dem or Pub, will feel a greater need to

1. Ignore young Harry's derring-do?

2. Mock what they are not man enough to imitate?

3. Ignore the fact that Drudge did what we'd expect from someone like the NY Times' Trust Fund Baby Progressive "Pinch" Sulzberger. That is, he blew Prince Harry's media cover which the Brit media had maintained amazingly. By this act, Drudge has alerted the Taliban to the location of (super high value target) Prince Harry, who has been serving there in combat since before Christmas. This in effect forces the Brits to send him home now. Withdrawing him has to be done not only for his security, but that of everyone around him.

Thanks, Matt.

Comment, cara mia?

FK

Jack --

Keep in mind that usually VP is a BS position, often used to keep the person in that position quiet. The VP is only as powerful as the POTUS lets him be. Cheney's power is an aberration.

Clinton and Obama know this. They will not be willing to take the position. Richardson will.

FK

Gringoman --

I don't know why Drudge did that. It certainly doesn't make him look good.

The person who comes out looking best is Prince Harry himself. After years of bad publicity, this is sure to improve his public image.

I can't imagine any American politician would mock Prince Harry for serving in a war zone. What makes you think one of them would do that?

Lenny, the Fake Cardinal Egan

No Bloomie? God, I think I'm gonna cry.

Ree

Anyone Remember the movie the Omen?

http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2008/02/devils-advocate_29.html

The Prince Harry outing, when he is trying to serve his country...that was a dick thing to do.

Allah Schmallah

Bloomberg is too soft on Foreign Policy anyway.. As much as I despise Hitlery.. I'd have LOVED seeing her with some of these "SOWdi Royalty" who were so fond of mutual hand-holding and smooching with the Bushes...

Hehehe.. too bad it won't happen. Although I think I saw a pic recently showing Hitlery and Chelsea both in headscarves so her nasty attitude toward males may only be reserved for Westerners.

She could very well be a complete PC liEberal and have no problem bowing to the Middle East.

It's very unlikely we will ever find out.

Too bad we also won't see how Rudy would have dealt with the SOWdis. I have a feeling his ouster was planned long ahead..

Too much at stake for both the jihadists and the oil business. Yep, I think they are bedfellows of sorts.

Anyway, Bloomberg's out. No big loss. Let him run the treasury or something like that instead. we need a tough guy at President. Not a rich Upper East Sider.

Ron Mwangaguhunga

The cosmos was not properly aligned. Bloomberg could not run, I thought, when Lieberman and Schwarzenegger endorsed McCain. Bloomberg had heavy IOU's from both mavericks, and when they went to McCain, the oxygen all but left the Bloomberg bubble. I think he would make a fine World Bank president, or Treasury secretary. We need a steady hand to steer the ship of state through the upcoming financial crisis.

FK

Bloomberg told the entire City of New York that they couldn't smoke in bars anymore. He's a pretty tough dude.

Jack Flynn

Fred,
I have re-thought my statement about an Obama/Hillary ticket and I think you are right about that. A clean break with the past might be the best move. As President, she could overcome much of it, but as VP she would bring along a lot of unnecessary baggage which could fuel the Repubs and distract from more important issues. As I think more about it, there are other well qualified individuals out there who could help draw in as many, or even more votes than Hillary, especially from those who want that clean break with the past. And I further agree, Bill could be a problem. When we look back on some of his appointments, like Reno, Les Aspin, (both horrible choices), and others, it does not inspire confidence, does it?
However, on the outside chance that Hillary does get the nomination, I'm not so sure, if offered, that Obama wouldn't take the VP spot. He is an ambitious man and young enough to be a viable candidate in 2016.
Although we don't want a power grabber like Chaney in the VP spot, beyond the "heartbeat from the Presidency" factor, it is a much more important position than it was in the past. Of course, like you say, that depends on how the POTUS uses him or her. And if the nominee is Obama, it gives him the option to consider another woman for the spot, or a good man.

Thanks for helping me change my mind. As Emerson said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

FK

Jack --

It's nice to see that there is at least one conservative on this site who will listen to reason. So it is possible for a conservative to be openminded and consider what another person says, and even change his mind without considering it a sign of weakness!

Oh wait . . . you are not a conservative . . . you are more like I am . . . never mind.

gringoman

What is the point of replying to libs who have sanctified the increasingly out-of-fashion Slicks, insulted Monica for vividly expressing the consensus of millions re Two-Headed, and then deny that any of their ilk would mock Prince Harry's gutsy service in Afghanistan, despite the likes of Bill "I loathe the military" Clinton (not to mention the hypocrisy of the Democratic hindsight jihad against Georgie Bush---not so much for his incompetence as a politically correct RINO, but for his daring to topple Saddam Hussein who everyone--repeat everyone--is on record as considering a grave menace whether or not he had WMD at the moment?

At any rate, gringoVision is more interested in Monica's reaction to young Harry's demonstration of the true meaning of aristocracy and noblesse oblige and (what no pc-nik will dare mention) Western Civilization confronting the hideous Talibarbarian Islamic fanatics (and doing it at a time when the fat American consensus seems to be going chicken). So, to repeat, in the wake of Drudge's unfortunate outing of Princely nobility:

Thanks, Matt.

Comments, Monica?

Jack Flynn

F,
Actually, I am rather conservative. . . in a liberal sort of way, or liberal. . . in a conservative sort of way.
The problem is, Conservatism has become a religion. Did you ever try to discuss religion with a young convert to a cult? The way they dance around without revealing any truth about themselves. They feel and see no flaws in the absolute truth they have found—a lot like some of the contributers on here.

Ree

http://enigma.dune.net/~eric/Do-not-feed-the-troll.PNG

M/M

Monica,

Thank you so much for passing on my request to Don Imus to bring back Cardinal Egan. I listened to the show on Friday and SMILED all day long. I AM SO HAPPY (Lenny and Ree)!

I enjoyed the ENTIRE show, especially the Victoria's secret joke and Kinky Friedman's update on the NAFTA Superhighway. The show was SUPERB on Friday.

Gringoman, you better start listening to WABC because the Cardinal is back. If you missed him on Friday, check him out on SupportImus.org and ImusTruth.com. You can also find out how to stream WABC and Monica's show from your computer over there.

Allah, my favorite presidential candidate is still "none of the above". Here is the latest on my fence:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,333417,00.html

Thanks again Monica and to everyone at WABC who brought joy back into my life. The "Today" show is history in my life.


M/M

I'm having a hard time deciding between Kinky Friedman and Patrick J. Buchanan:

http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=957

Ree

Check out my latest blog "Matt Taibbi, When Doves Cry" this is in response to Matt Taibbi's latest article for RollingStone Magazine, McCain Ressurected.

http://www.myspace.com/cantgetherefromthere

M/M

Great show Monica. Yes, I did ROTFL when I heard the NEWS Monica broke on her show.

If you missed it, Monica discovered that Deval Patrick is not the inspiration behind Obama's speeches but this 1992 movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Distinguished_Gentleman

In this movie, Eddie movie plays a con man who gets elected to Congress using the death of a Congressman in his district with the same name. His plan is based on the premise that people vote based on "name recognition" and pay attention to little else.

Monica played one of speeches in this movie on the air and it REALLY did sound like a speech that we heard over and over on the news. Monica can you post the speech on your blog to help Rush and Sean prepare for their shows next week?

If nothing else, Monica recommends this movie and says that it is funny.

In honor of William F. Buckley, Jr. we are returning to our "hip and intellectual" conservative roots. Monica invited Steve Forbes on her show and he discussed his new book on the flax tax. Monica is trying to persuade him to run a grassroots campaign. If he can can secure the border for me and fix the immigration problem, count me in.

Monica discussed NAFTA and feels that the Dems are backsliding on this issue to get the vote in Ohio. Monica believes that NAFTA was the right thing to do.

I've been reading THE FORGOTTEN MAN, an awesome book about the Depression by Amity Shlaes. In this book, Ms. Shlaes discusses how Hoover implemented a protectionalist tariff called the Smoot-HawleyTariff which worsened the Depression because our trading partners introduced tariffs of their own. If this tariff had not been introduced, she thinks we might have been able to trade our way out of the Depression.

Here is some background on Smoot-Hawley:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot-Hawley_Tariff_Act

I think protectionalism versus NAFTA would be a great topic for TMG. I'm pretty impressed with John McLaughlin's economic acumen after he predicted that 75 basis point drop in the Fed funds rate. And, of course, Patrick J. Buchanan is the expert on protectionalism and tariffs.

Amity Shlaes would make a great guest for Monica's show.

Monica also pointed out yet another reason why we should seal that border. Did everyone hear about the ricin discover in Las Vegas?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,333781,00.html

FK

Question: Are people who still support George W. Bush:

A. Retarded

or

B. Just plain stupid?

Brehas2

Fred 2929, Your passage on the Repubs makes sense. They have betrayed their own philosophy of conservatism. The Bush presidency have drowned us in a tidal wave of illegal immigration which have given rise to illegal bank transactions, government policies and transactions such as giving liscenses to drive, illegal green cars,much worse, counterfeiting of American currency, increase of drugs, mayhem at the border states, Mexico in now part of the US. Credit and other everyday issuances of cards are now in the hands of the illegals given by businesses. All this is driven by NAFTA and other such like entities.

The juggernaut of Mexicans and other such crowds has given and will give rise to an extreme genetic strain in the population and Bush sat there on his behind at the WH desk passing and signing papers that support all these things whilst the border is wide open as a Texas whorehouse and he has man like Chertoff who looks like a wimp as head of homeland security. Even Putin is better looking. Chertoff does not give off a strong presence as a head of a dept as the homeland security. It is heart rending to see the border still open after 911 and this SELECTED president is sitting there supporting NAPTA , highways to Mexico, and a North American Unionist who fooled the people from the very beginning. His own family is drowned in Mexican blood. No wonder. As far as I know, Bush only came in the presidency to avenge his father. Fred start a campaign to impeach Bush.

Brehas2

The fact is the media is trying to be like a Murrow or a Pyle. They don't care about no one, once their family is not serving in the terror states. Drudge should know better than to reveal Prince Harry's name and further I was never interested in a name like Drudge, sounds like a bore. He seems to be living in the 1950s. In America you have drive-by media,
drive-by shooting, drive-by everything. What they practice in America they cannot practice in other countries with the same freedom as America. It seems that the Drive-by Media think they can do everything.I wonder how they would like me or anyone else to dog them or camp outside their homes to get some information or to follow their daily family lives. I am sure they will be screaming bloody hell to get me off their backs.

Brehas2

The fact is the media is trying to be like a Murrow or a Pyle. They don't care about no one, once their family is not serving in the terror states. Drudge should know better than to reveal Prince Harry's name and further I was never interested in a name like Drudge, sounds like a bore. He seems to be living in the 1950s. In America you have drive-by media,
drive-by shooting, drive-by everything. What they practice in America they cannot practice in other countries with the same freedom as America. It seems that the Drive-by Media think they can do everything.I wonder how they would like me or anyone else to dog them or camp outside their homes to get some information or to follow their daily family lives. I am sure they will be screaming bloody hell to get me off their backs.

Allah Schmallah

Well, let me tell you. It is more than that. It is our future and it cannot be stopped by small minded, angry, ultranatinalistic reactionaries, like Monica Crowley and the sycophantic, idolatrous skirt hangers prevalent on this blog and elsewhere.

Posted by: Jack Flynn

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Jack Flynn.. you're NO Conservative. A True Conservative has manners. You have none. You're a liEberal through and through. What liEberals hate most is a female or a black Conservative. Both of which are a living contradiction of the liEberal "victim card".

So let me forget my good manners this time when i tell you: SHOVE IT.

Jack Flynn

Ali Baba,
I did do some "shoveling" this weekend. We got quite a dose of snow in the East. As far as politeness is concerned, you don't appear to be walking the way you talk. However, you are correct on one point sir. I am not a true Conservative. I don't hang around men's rooms tapping my foot and I don't sanction war crimes in Iraq.

FK

Allah Schmallah is funny. So now conservatives are polite, and liberals are rude? He's just amazing.

M/M

I was unable to post my flame yesterday.

Brehas2 perhaps it is you and FredK2929 and the rest of the Kool-Aid drinkers who need to wake up and smell the roses. From the link below, you will see that it is the Clintons who are responsible for NAFTA. Yes, that's right. Bill Clinton was the one who signed the bill.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-lijani295595631feb29,0,4910713.story

The link above also discusses the rumor that the Obama camp told Candadian Ambassadors that Obama's idea to repeal NAFTA is just an empty campaign promise.

I'm sure you didn't read the link I posted above concerning the Smoot-Harley tariff, so I will bring this quote from Al Gore to your attention:

"In the discussion leading up to the passage of NAFTA Vice President Al Gore mentioned the tariff as a rejoinder to NAFTA objections voiced by Ross Perot during a debate in 1993 they had on the Larry King show. He gave Perot a framed picture of Smoot and Hawley shaking hands after its passage.

Many Republicans and conservative radio talk show hosts were against McCain-Kennedy and we spent OUR FREE TIME contacting our elected officials and telling them that we will "vote them out" if they agree to giving illegals amnesty. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ABOUT IMMIGRATION and NAFTA? Many conservative talk show hosts don't agree with Bush on the borders and immigration.

If you check Obama's stand on giving driver's licenses to illegals, you will see that he agreed with Eliot Spitzer, the governor of New York who attempted to give illegals driver's licenses in the Fall.

Monica thought that NAFTA was good. Mary Matilin just said today that NAFTA has increased our GDP by 34%. I was merely making a point that, based upon my reading of the Smoot-Hawly tariff, protectionalism can have disasterous outcomes. (Yesterday on "Go Minutes" Obama did make a good point about Hillary's idea to take a "time out" on trade. Obama said that "the rest of the world is not taking a time out", which means we need to compete globabally. The economy is in bad shape, and I am trying to learn more about the candidate's policies.

WAKE UP, all the candidates are the same. They are all pro-NAFTA and none of them will close the borders.

Don't get mad at me. I liked many of the Republican candidates, like Duncan Hunter, because he would have closed the border and looked at "fair trade" alternatives. Mitt was our last great hope. Ron Paul said that he won't run as an indendent. The only candidates left are the open border, pro-NAFTA crowd.

For all you brilliant HATERS on this site, the economy is in bad shape. What are YOUR solutions for bringing back American jobs and solving some of our country's problems?

Check out some of Pat Buchanan's solutions in his book DAY OF RECKONING.


FK

M/M --

I haven't said anything about NAFTA, so you are not responding to anything I wrote.

Also, I never drink Kool-Aid; I didn't even like it as a kid. I did drink Hawaiian Punch last night.

Jack Flynn

M/M asked: "For all you brilliant HATERS on this site, the economy is in bad shape. What are YOUR solutions for bringing back American jobs and solving some of our country's problems?"

You ask a legitimate question, M/M, but you deny yourself the opportunity of getting a legitimate answer because you ask only HATERS to respond. Doesn't that imply that you really don't want an answer? My guess is nobody can/will answer your question, because it is unlikely that anyone on here would admit that he or she is a HATER.
You, yourself don't appear to be too much of a HATER, although you apparently HATE HATERS and Immigrants. Who are these HATERS you refer to and why do you want only HATERS to respond? Do you mean Monica? She HATES Hillary Clinton and Hollywood. Do you mean Allah? He HATES Blacks, Muslims me and Fred.
Pierpont Finch HATES just about everyone and how about Gringoman? His HATE is obscured by cynicism, Joycean rhetoric and introverted humor but it lurks in the shadows of his words. Ree HATES anyone who looks at Imus cross-eyed, Truther HATES blacks, Steve ok HATES Ted Kennedy and of course all of the above hate Liberals, (generic as they may be).
So I ask you again M/M. Who do you want to respond?

You really don't want an answer, do you?

FK

I hate eggplant, and most gourds in general (except for pumpkins because I like jack-o-lanterns and pumpkin pie). Am I a HATER?

M/M

My computer didn't allow me to post this last night. Sorry it isn't as creative as Gringoman's post.

Jack you make a good point. Everybody does hate something. Thanks to you and FredK2929 for taking my flame so well.

I'm not in favor of our country's current immigration policy, which seems to be open the border to anyone who wants to come in. Didn't we used to have a quota system? What about my people? My country of origin is one of our allies in Iraq. Why can't we bring more of my people into this county? Or some other nationalities that can bring more diversity to this country. Our current policy seems to be favoring one group of people.

I'm concerned about people not assimilating. When I was growing up, I always felt so grateful to be an American. I had a really hard time during 9/11 and I channelled all my hatred and anger at the terrorists into my patriotism. I wanted to show the world and all the people who hate us how wrong they are about hating Americans and what a really awesome country we are. There were some people who actually think Americans are cool. I'm concerned that multiculturalism will destroy the American culture.

Securing the borders is not an unrealistic objective, especially after our country was attacked. By the way, we are at war. Maybe, if we had tighter security at the airports, we could have avoided 9/11. Look at this ricin story in Las Vegas and how easily someone a terrorist(s) could enter this country and get us. Why can't our politicians secure the borders?

There are other problems I have with our current immigration policy, but not enough time to get into it.

FK

M/M --

You make it very difficult for us to "flame" you when you get all reasonable and apologetic. Now what am I supposed to do?

I've said before that you are the reasonable face of conservatism. Some of the others here could learn from you.

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