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Clark Robinson

Why isn't it important to point out weaknesses/past issues in a potential nominee - as long as the information is factual. Shouldn't voters be informed about the candidates and their histories? Although much of the negatives happened years ago, many voters are NOT aware, and have just become interested in the political process because of the dire situation in the country, or their age. I, for one, want to know about the character and past performance of the candidates.

Ummahgummah

Bob Roberts says:
January 23, 2012 at 4:17 pm
Did you notice who Obama threatened when he wasn’t getting his way on raising the debt ceiling?

He threatened to not pay Social Security Retirees, Military Retirees, Social Security disability and Federal Retirees.

NOW……… Let this really sink in!!!!

He did not threaten to stop payments to illegal aliens

He did not threaten to take frivolous benefits such as Internet access away from violent inmates

He did not offer to fire some of the thousands of unnecessary federal employees that he hired

He did not offer to cut down on his or his wife’s frivolous gallivanting around the world

He did not threaten to not pay the senators and representatives or any of their staff

He did not threaten to take benefits away from welfare recipients

He did not threaten the food stamp programs

He did not threaten to not pay foreign aid

He did not threaten to cut back on anything that involves his base voters

The list could go on and on. He is in full political re-election mode!

Why are we allowing this person to destroy this wonderful country with his selfishness and his lies?

His type of change is killing our country. He needs to be stopped and only our votes can stop him.

Do not forget about his tactics when it’s election time. Vote Obama out of the Presidency in 2012.

2012 – THE END OF AN ERROR!

ELECTION 2012 IS COMING!!!

A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves !

Goals for 2012 and beyond:

Obama: Gone!
Borders : Closed!
Language : English only
Culture : Constitution, and the Bill of Rights!
Drug Free : Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare/disability!
NO freebies to non-citizens!

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As for the thread, I don’t know where people keep buying the media line that Newt can’t beat Obama. Right now any of the dead voters who voted for Newt in South Carolina could probably come close to beating Obama. If we have a dramatic improvement in the economy before election day maybe that will change, but for now any candidate that has a pulse likely will beat Obama.

I’m not thrilled at the prospect of EITHER Newt or Mitt becoming President, but either would be better than Obama! I’d even vote for Ron Paul if it came down to it, though he’s got some serious flaws that make him my last choice despite the many good things he has to say – some of which are, unfortunately, pipe dreams because the President can’t do that.

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borderbriar

Ignoring that jihadist Santorum wants to do away with the Constitution and impose religious law, conservative solutions? Conservative solutions means starting another war in the Middle East that would cost more trillions we don't have and might well widen to result in the total destruction of Israel?

Ron Paul was the only one who made any sense last night in pointing out we are broke and can't keep wasting borrowed money. Our stupid policy toward Cuba has helped keep Castro stubborn in a government socialism. Other countries have moved them toward corporate socialism and make money from them while we get only more illegal aliens.

Ummahgummah

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A thread and a half back, Chief Joe wrote the following:

EZ way for Washington to gain some popularity:

93% believe GE foods should be labeled (10/10,Thomson Reuters PULSE™ Healthcare Survey, “National Survey of Healthcare Consumers: Genetically Engineered Food”)

96% believe genetically modified foods should be labeled (6/11, MSNBC)

95% of consumers believe GE foods should be labeled (11/08, Consumers Union, “Food-Labeling Poll: 2008,” p. 13)

94% believe genetically modified food should be labeled (9/10, Washington Post)

93% of the American public wants the federal government to require mandatory labeling of genetically engineered foods (6/11, ABC News)
POSTED BY: CHIEF JOE | JANUARY 24, 2012 AT 06:20 AM

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To which I remarked that it seems that anytime the people are this united for or against something the vast majority of our body politic seems poised exactly opposite.

The dRATS have pushed the envelope inside this "two-party" to such a degree that the cozy relationship is threatening to go bust.

Namely, people have begun to get hip to the game that's being played.

The GOP is pushing the neut or Mittens as an alternative to the Bama, knowing how unpopular he is.

They really think we're gonna go for anything now.

Vote whatever stooge the GOP ends up offering us, THEN START A NEW PARTY!!

They think they have overcome OUR TEA PARTY OPPOSITION but the war has just begun!!

TEA PARTY ALL THE WAY!!!!

END CORRUPTION NOW!!!!

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LongRifle

"Ron Paul was the only one who made any sense last night..."
BORDERBRIAR

I agree 100%

This election for POTUS is the most important in our lifetime and the real reason -to my mind- is that the next Supreme Court Justice(s) will be picked by the winner.
The 2nd Amendment is only one OPINION away from being changed forever.

Ummahgummah

Ignoring that jihadist Santorum wants to do away with the Constitution and impose religious law, conservative solutions? Conservative solutions means starting another war in the Middle East that would cost more trillions we don't have and might well widen to result in the total destruction of Israel?

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POSTED BY: BORDERBRIAR | JANUARY 24, 2012 AT 12:43 PM

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Grooaaann.. what a LIEberal IDIOT!

First of all Santorum is anything but a jihadist. Unlike you libs he wants to FIGHT jihadism and PIGSlam which is the ideology that spawns jihadism.

Second, he does not want to "impose religious law", despite of what your DNC handlers and all those ridiculous lib websites keep telling you.

Furthermore, Israel is hardly threatened as a result of OUR actions, but because PIGSlam prescribes that no religions besides the one that Satan moHAMed started, be followed.

THEY SAY SO THEMSELVES IN THEIR MANIFESTOS!!! LOOK AT THE HAMAS CHARTER FOR STARTERS!!!

Idiot..

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Ummahgummah

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LIEberal media slavishly follow their master, attack oil-exporting Canada:

http://moonbattery.com/?p=7246

Canada in the Crosshairs

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DJ

"So,guys: fly out of the bottle and elevate the debate, the race and your own candidacies. Only one can win the nomination, but nobody in this race will regret taking that path." ( --Monica)

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I have a much better idea. The unelectable Newt should drop out of the race and allow the other electable candidates to compete.

BTW, judging by Newt's performance in the debate last night, I've come to the conclusion his much touted debating skills are vastly overrated.

Ummahgummah

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DJ, I think we all know that the Goopers have figured out that they can saddle us with either the CORRUPT AS H3LL Charakterschwein neut or with the statist careerist checked-pants RINO Mittens.

Chief Joe touched on it in his recent post. When it comes to stuff that all Americans agree on, THEY are all united in bi-partisanship in opposition to the public interest.

See not only GM Frankenfood, and ILLEGAL aliens, but also the BUSH-peddled "Prescription Drug Benefit" which explicits forbids public entities from pooling resources to bargain for lower prices.

Now WHO do you think wrote THAT one?

Needless to say, both Goopers and RATS were united and on board that one as well.

Same for internet snooping, which the neut, for example is also in favor of, and the shameless SOPA Hollywood pander bill.

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Ummahgummah

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Once again, as if you needed further proof, libs are all about DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO:

http://moonbattery.com/?p=7236

Federal Employees Owe $1 Billion in Taxes

- Read it all!

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DJ

Ya know, UG, you and I have been ranting for two years about not letting the ruling elite saddle us with another uninspiring milquetoast Gooper. But lo and behold! Here we go again!

Allot of the blame must go to a dumbed down electorate. They are conditioned to be susceptible to the brainwashing the Lame Stream Media delivers. Stupid Sheeple!

DJ

At any rate, I tend to agree with Savage when he says: Newt is unelectable. The best we can hope for this time around is Romney. I.e. fifty percent of something is better than one-hundred percent of nothing -- which is what we got with Obama sitting in the WH.

Ummahgummah

The best we can hope for this time around is Romney. I.e. fifty percent of something is better than one-hundred percent of nothing -- which is what we got with Obama sitting in the WH.
POSTED BY: DJ | JANUARY 24, 2012 AT 02:59 PM

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Even worse. With four more years of the Bama you can count on America being destroyed 100%.

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Ummahgummah

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Did you read my post above re. his priorities and threats when he wanted a higher spending limit, ie. debt ceiling?

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DJ

Did you read my post above re. his priorities and threats when he wanted a higher spending limit, ie. debt ceiling?

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | January 24, 2012 at 03:16 PM
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Yes, I did.

Ummah, there is very little we disagree on, but I beleive Obama is going to be VERY difficult to beat. He has the force of gravity times 10 (so to speak) working in his favor. I need not list all the advantages he enjoys. We already know them. Hence, this election is a 50/50 preposition if Romney is the nominee. The rest of the candidates would lose to Obama, IMO.

What we need is Ron Paul's economic policies coupled with John Bolton's foreign policy.

Paul/Bolton 2012


Ummahgummah

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Remember, if we vote in one of the Goopers we have at least a chance to save the country.

We will have bought time, but not that much.

A THIRD PARTY will have to be started in earnest THE DAY AFTER the election.

The Gooper will merely serve as a placeholder until the next election in 2016 which is when we must have a REAL Constitutionalist Conservative ready to go.

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LongRifle

"The unelectable Newt should drop out of the race and allow the other electable candidates to compete."
DJ

Romney just stated that illegal aliens should "Self-deport"...LOL

Paul/Santorum...2012

DJ

"Romney just stated that illegal aliens should "Self-deport"...LOL"

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Actually, LR, the "self deport" is a concept that us anti-illegal immigration hawks have been advocating for decades. Romney is on target on that one. See here:

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/january-24-2012/romney-shocks-news-media-numbersusas-basic-self-deportation-plan.html

LongRifle

DJ,
It might work IF they denied illegal aliens (undocmented non-citizens in welfare speak) Food stamps, ER medical treatment, employment, and citizenship to their babies...

There would be no reason to be here other than drug or gang-related.

LongRifle

Rush Limbaugh likes the TSA pervs fondling little girls and stated that Ron Paul is nearly an Islamic terrorist himself on his radio show. Look here:

January 24, 2012 at 5:43 pm
"Rush is employed by Clear Channel Communications, Inc., to the tune of millions per year!!!
Clear Channel Communications, Inc. is an American media conglomerate company headquartered in San Antonio, Texas. It was founded in 1972 by Lowry Mays and Red McCombs, and was taken private by Bain Capital LLC and Thomas H. Lee Partners LP in a leveraged buyout in 2008.

Bain Capital LLC is Romney’s company!!!"

Templar X on infowars.com

RON PAUL/RAND PAUL 2012

jay

If we don't defeat Obama in November, America will be gone. And once she's gone, that's it. Game over. For us and the rest of the world.--Monica

Boy! how dramatic can you get?

jay


Once again, as if you needed further proof, libs are all about DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO:

http://moonbattery.com/?p=7236

Federal Employees Owe $1 Billion in Taxes

- Read it all!

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | January 24, 2012 at 02:35 PM

didn't know that ALL federal employees are liberals!

AMAZING!

jay


If we don't defeat Obama in November, America will be gone. And once she's gone, that's it. Game over. For us and the rest of the world.--Monica

America recovered after the GOP caused the depression in the 1920s.

Oh, wait! conservatives say that they were a "Victim of circumstance" Curly Howard

jay

"Bob Roberts says"

Conservatives sure love OPINIONS!

SYBIL

what ever happened to baby JayN?

jay


Even worse. With four more years of the Bama you can count on America being destroyed 100%.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | January 24, 2012 at 03:15 PM


More the sky is falling paranoia from a conservative!

jay


Notice how libs really trust information a lot more when it comes from a Conservative source?

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | January 24, 2012 at 01:21 AM


COUGH! COUGH!

Just figured she knew more about you than most on the memo.

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what ever happened to baby JayN?

Posted by: SYBIL | January 24, 2012 at 07:30 PM

What happened to your other self, Lurker? the one you hide behind.

When life gets too tough to deal with?

jay


We are experiencing extreme weather conditions and we have scientific facts that this is attributed to us and the pollution we cause.

Posted by: Rafe | January 23, 2012 at 10:56 AM

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NAME THEM.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | January 24, 2012 at 01:24 AM

Won't do any good. conservatives are the party of DENIAL!

LongRifle

More the sky is falling paranoia from a conservative!

Posted by: Baby JAYn


More intellectual drought. Got anything intelligent to say?
Libs still have not noticed that the US debt equals the GDP and that 30% of it was created in the last three years.

jay


All you libs who love marXXXizm and believe in Warmology are more than welcome to PAY EXTRA TAXES to make up for your shameful existence.

Just don't expect US to want to pay for your follies.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | January 24, 2012 at 01:29 AM
What about your sorry existence?

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Libs still have not noticed that the US debt equals the GDP and that 30% of it was created in the last three years.

Posted by: LongRifle | January 24, 2012 at 07:38 PM
Doubt that very much.

the biggest mistake Obama made was extending the Bush tax cuts.
the CBO said that cost us up to 3 TRILLION!

It's not 30% either!

jay

WIKIPEDIA////The verb troll originates from Old French troller, a hunting term. The noun troll comes from the Old Norse word for a mythological monster.[7]

In modern English usage, the verb troll is a fishing technique of slowly dragging a lure or baited hook from a moving boat.[8] The word evokes the trolls of Scandinavian folklore and children's tales, where they are often creatures bent on mischief and wickedness.

The contemporary use of the term is alleged to have appeared on the Internet in the late 1980s,[9] but the earliest known example is from 1992

Posted by: gringoman | January 24, 2012 at 08:23 AM
With ALL the problems of the world. Seems that ALL gringo cares about are "TROLLS"

Pitiful, isn't it?

Bad childhood, perhaps??

LongRifle

America recovered after the GOP caused the depression in the 1920s.
Posted by Baby JAYn

More liberal twist and spin. According to Wikipedia, that depression was caused by WW I and the Federal Reserve. Who was President then?
LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE WOODROW WILSON.

Lurker

It's not 30% either!

Posted by: jay | January 24, 2012 at 07:41 PM

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If not 30%, then what percentage is it, IQ Boy?

jay

More liberal twist and spin. According to Wikipedia, that depression was caused by WW I and the Federal Reserve. Who was President then?
LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE WOODROW WILSON.


Posted by: LongRifle | January 24, 2012 at 07:46 PM
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Hey, had it sawed off years ago.

The 1920s was all GOP.

And, the debt? up to: 1/2/2012

12/31/93-12/31/2000
Clinton:4.6 trillion to 5.6 trillion


12/31/2001 to 12/31/2008

Bush: 5.9 trillion to 10.6 trillion

12/31/2009 to 12/31/2011

Obama:12.3 trillion to 15.1 trillion.

http://presidentialdebt.org/
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If not 30%, then what percentage is it, IQ Boy?

Posted by: Lurker | January 24, 2012 at 07:49 PM


make a claim about a conservative. And, they do their best to prove you're right!

Huh, Sybil?

jay


make a claim about a conservative. And, they do their best to prove you're right!


Posted by: jay | January 24, 2012 at 07:55 PM


No wonder conservatives go crazy when you make a claim about them, doing their best to make elections go more in their favor by changeing voting laws and such.

How, conservatives as Reagan's budget director said, "Don't listen to the people."

Lurker

If not 30%, then what percentage is it, IQ Boy?

Posted by: Lurker | January 24, 2012 at 07:49 PM


make a claim about a conservative. And, they do their best to prove you're right!

Huh, Sybil?

Posted by: jay | January 24, 2012 at 07:55 PM

.

LOL!

Seems IQ Boy proves once again his Crown is a dunce cap.


jay


Seems IQ Boy proves once again his Crown is a dunce cap.


Posted by: Lurker | January 24, 2012 at 08:01 PM


While, Sybil, (er Lurker) have proved that if you belong to "sex without partners", create a fantasy one. As, Sybil created Lurker!

jay

While Obama did not increase the debt by 30%. That presidentialdebt link shows that Bush DOUBLED IT!

In Reagan's time, he tripled it!

gringoman

Gentlemen,

I keep hearing around here that Newt is a GOP Central choice. Really? Can anybody post any corroborating evidence? Sounding off is okay, but doesn't prove a point, any more than does DJ's "feeling" about the "electability" of a Romney who leaves so many so cold.Everything I see, and I've seen plenty, indicates that Club Gooper is in a panic over Newt's refusal to die and Romney's inability to kill him. Where are you getting signs to the contrary? Help me out. DJ, of course, has made it abundantly clear that he is a Romneyiac, faute de mieux, which just shows that he is not part of the base when it comes to Romney. Unlike DJ, the base does noit like Mitt Romney and tends to see him as a perfect patsy for the Total Class War that Obama and his shifty comrades will be waging. I will continue to look for your evidence that baaaaaaad Newt is a Gooper choice, despite the well known charges that most everybody in the Beltway hates him. Meanwhile, I see Erick Erickson as more in toucb with the "base,"......

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ERICK ERICKSON//////

The Republican Base Simply Does Not Like Mitt Romney & Why The Press Rarely Reports It
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/23/the-republican-base-simply-does-not-like-mitt-romney-why-the-press-rarely-reports-it/
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WIKIPEDIA////The verb troll originates from Old French troller, a hunting term. The noun troll comes from the Old Norse word for a mythological monster.[7]

In modern English usage, the verb troll is a fishing technique of slowly dragging a lure or baited hook from a moving boat.[8] The word evokes the trolls of Scandinavian folklore and children's tales, where they are often creatures bent on mischief and wickedness.

The contemporary use of the term is alleged to have appeared on the Internet in the late 1980s,[9] but the earliest known example is from 1992

gringoman

MITT VS NEWT

ERICK ERICKSON//////The fight has gotten so bitter and acrimonious with only three states chosen because neither side thinks the other side can win. Gingrich supporters understand that the secularists in the media — not the Democrats, but the media to the extent it can be separated from the Obama Machine — will spend six months creeping out independent suburban voters about Mormons, holy underwear, Kolob, postmortem baptism, and views on black people and then, as the coup de grace, Barack Obama will fire up millions of dollars of ads on Bain Capital raiding pension funds forcing the government to cover the debt so Mitt Romney could make millions whether he won or lost a deal.

Romney supporters understand Newt Gingrich will open his mouth.

Mitt Romney will find it very hard to beat Barack Obama because of what Barack Obama will do to him. Newt Gingrich will find it very hard to beat Barack Obama because of what Newt Gingrich will do to himself. That’s the simple truth. Both men will have amazingly difficult times beating Barack Obama.

gringoNOTE: In that case, I take leave of the "stable" made-for-Marxist Class War Corporate Charley stuffy campaigner and side with the "less stable" sophisticate who has the knowledge, communication skills and spirit to take their billion-dollar hypocrite's Class War --funded by their crony capitalists and Union Bosses--- straight into the enemy camp. Better a battler than yet another depressing "next in line" like McCain/Dole ad nauseam. The comrades want a war? Give it to them this time. Stand up, Americanos! The party's over.

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WIKIPEDIA////The verb troll originates from Old French troller, a hunting term. The noun troll comes from the Old Norse word for a mythological monster.[7]

In modern English usage, the verb troll is a fishing technique of slowly dragging a lure or baited hook from a moving boat.[8] The word evokes the trolls of Scandinavian folklore and children's tales, where they are often creatures bent on mischief and wickedness.

The contemporary use of the term is alleged to have appeared on the Internet in the late 1980s,[9] but the earliest known example is from 1992]

jay

Still, Gringo and the evil trolls. He sounds like a broken record!

Obama wil speak about the fairness in taxes and how the rich should pay their share.

The response of the conservatives will be like the person who threw a brick into a pigpen.

The one who squeal will be the one who gets hit.

jay

labor department said that manufacturing jobs have increased during the past 2 years. The last time it increased for just one year, was under Clinton.

gringoman

DJ,

I notice you're trotting out the Damnation of Newt for appearing with Al Sharpton. BTW, I don't consider this out-of-bounds. I just need to know exactly what your point is.

1. Standard guilt-by-association?

2. Are you denying there is a crisis in black "education" and that Newt should not be bold enough to say what he wants about it?

3. What exactly did he do, or say, on this tour, that leads you to disqualify his "conservative" cred? Try to be specific.

Full disclosure: I can be as critical of Sharpton as anybody. At the same time, I could do give-and-take with him for an hour, and keep it smiling all the while. And he would know immediately that I'm not another one of these white liberals with their phony, sickening "admiration."

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Troll (Internet)
From Wikipedia,

"Do not feed the trolls" and its abbreviation "DNFTT" redirect here. For the Wikimedia essay, see "What is a troll?". Modern usage of the word itself dates from 1980s.

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4]

jay

More with the trolls.

What's really important to Gringo?

The country?

or, the fact that a few people comment on this blog.

If, a person leaves the memo, it's by HIS OWN CHOICE. Not, someone elses.

gringoman

PELOSI THREAT: NEWT WON'T BE PRESIDENT
'THERE IS SOMETHING I KNOW'

gringoNOTE: This wealthy, elite socialist using the very same tack that Wife #2 tried via Obamasuck ABC TV interview just before the South Carolina Primary.

But you still don't know who the comrades most fear, do you?

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WIKIPEDIA////The verb troll originates from Old French troller, a hunting term. The noun troll comes from the Old Norse word for a mythological monster.[

jay


WIKIPEDIA////The verb troll originates from Old French troller, a hunting term. The noun troll comes from the Old Norse word for a mythological monster.[

Posted by: gringoman | January 24, 2012 at 09:46 PM


Let's face it. gringo is obsessed with trolls. Use to be gay nazis, then Sanduskies.

Must be a bad childhood!

gringoman

Jonathan Easley / The Hill:

Gingrich won't ‘allow’ moderators to silence crowd at future debates — Newt Gingrich says he won't “allow” the moderators of future GOP presidential debates to keep the crowd out of it. — Speaking on Tuesday to Fox News, Gingrich took the opportunity that was denied him at Monday night's debate, and blasted the media.

gringoNOTE: Uh, oh, DJ. Looks like Mitt's undertakers, the Obamasuck and Club Gooper will have to find another way to hamstring the guy who some tell us the Goopers want. Newt won't let them reproduce that funereal calm of last debate that helped to squelch him. Newt knows their game too well, or what? Oh, well. Maybe Mitt can lay out another ten million on negative ads. After all, if out-spending Newt by 20 or 50 to 1 hasn't done the job yet, who knows what a little more of that lucre might accomplish. Even if, as the Beatles imply, money can't buy Mitt love, maybe it can get him a nomination?

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TROLL. One of the sources for the obnoxious entity denoted by this word is Scandinavian, meaning a mythological monster that could scare people, especially children. The troll is doomed to be what it is, and can never change or reform into human shape.

jay

still the TROLLS.

Trolls to conservatives are those who speak facts about conservatives that they don't want known.

xbjllb

Wow. What a great State of the Union speech. You could see it in the faces of every GOP bastard the camera scanned.

The inevitable DEATH of their party. Every last one of their Goddamned (literally) lies about Obama, flushed down the toilet for the entire world to see, and every last one of them feeling the tug of the pull of the whirlpool.

They don't have a prayer in the Hell they've made of the USA and the planet.

Thank GOD.

xbjllb

Michelle looked especially stunning tonight. Glad she figured out the advice between the lines about botoxing the frown lines. FANTASTIC result. Her smile never looked more pure. Like seeing someone for the first time.

Oh, it won't stop the "angry negress" comments. But it will make them more racist and ludicrous and desperate and outright LYING.

Oh, and it was good to see those frown lines on Obama's face almost the entire speech except for the one joke. Perfect delivery, no direct attack of any of the liars, just bludgeoning them to death with FACT after FACT after PLAN after PLAN after PLAN.

PERFECT speech. PERFECT night.

Oh. And I cannot WAIT for Gabby Giffords to knock John McCain into the trash can, forever. No one ever deserted their principles, stroke or no, or deserves enforced retirement more than that bitter half-crazy old man. Pity. He used to be an astounding man.

Go GABBY. Best wishes for a speedy full recovery and successful campaign for US Senate.

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