As we watch the violent, anarchist, anti-Semitic, anti-capitalist, socialist throngs fill the streets of lower Manhattan today, marching on Wall Sreet, disrupting the stock exchange and local businesses, and swarming the subways, remember what we're witnessing here. We are dealing with a very sophisticated leftist pychology and movement that gets kids and radicals moving FIRST and then at a later point, supplies them with the message and marching orders. Occupy Wall Street, with the localized park infestations, was just Phase One. Phase Two is starting now: escalating violence, ramped up rhetoric, greater abuse of the system and chaos. It's all designed to destroy the existing capitalist order in order to make way for a more socialist one. This revolution has been around since the turn of the 20th century. Bill Ayers described it well when he said in the early 1970s, "Kill all the rich people." The revolution is the same. Only today, they've gotten much more agile and adaptive in their tactics. Pay attention: this is not just about a bunch of kids in sleeping bags pooping on each other in between shooting up. They are merely the troops. Pay attention to the generals: the unions, the socialists, the communists, the anarchists. They are running the show. And they know EXACTLY what they are doing.
Please take a look at this short video of New York's OWS, done by Ami Horowitz for Glenn Beck's GBTV. It's disturbing and hilarious. We've got to keep our eyes on the ball---because they certainly are.
http://web.gbtv.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=19996135&topic_id=&tcid=vpp_copy_19996135&v=3

Glenn Beck? Ugh...he is toxic.
But I am viewing the clip...
Posted by: Rafe | November 17, 2011 at 11:29 AM
one word, RECALL.........& run INDEPENDENT candidates & form the THIRD party from the bottom UP...........
PERRYWINKLE BLUECOLLAR FOR PERRY 2012
Posted by: thebuckstopshere | November 17, 2011 at 11:33 AM
To paraphrase Monica's 'Occupy Goes into Phase Two'
"As we watch the anti-capitalist socialist progs, the filthy Toilet Mouth scum spamming and swarming Monicamemo, remember what we are witnessing here...."
Yes, Cara Mia, we remember. We have remembered. We keep remembering. We are witnessing the progasites of OCCUPY MONICAMEMO. It's much closer than Wall Street. Have you noticed?
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PROGASITE, a noun.
1. a troll, a progressive parasite.
2. a progasite feeds 24/7 on a conservative host. When this species of troll finds a conservative host with weakened or non-existent immune system, such as Monicamemo, the progasite feeds voraciously
Posted by: gringoman | November 17, 2011 at 11:39 AM
You need some help, Gringo.
Posted by: Rafe | November 17, 2011 at 11:45 AM
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The only help Gringoman needs is to help rid the Memo of the trollbagger scum.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | November 17, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Or is Monica just being strategic--waiting for Toilet Mouth & Company of Occupy Monicamemo to choke on their own spam? Would the Hazardous Waste Disposal make Page Six? Would it send a chill through all the other Obamavilles?
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Tales of my toughness are exaggerated. I never killed an actor, for instance. JOHN HUSTON
Posted by: gringoman | November 17, 2011 at 12:04 PM
The only trollbagger scum that I see here are those that continue to use that term on this site.
I'm a human being, Ummah. Just like you and the king of trolls, Gringo.
Posted by: Rafe | November 17, 2011 at 12:07 PM
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This sounds just like the X-lax's childhood!
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Media Celebrates Transformation of Boy Into Freak
http://moonbattery.com/?p=4630
Appalling as it may be, the never-ending pageant for pedophiles called Tots & Tiaras may not be the last word in “mainstream” media depravity. Look what CNN’s Anderson Cooper has dished up:
Danann Tyler, who was born male but now dresses as a little girl and has long hair, says she [sic] was bullied at school and felt hurt by other children telling her [sic] she [sic] was a boy.
The eight-year-old MTF (male to female) from Orange County, California, is the subject of a new feature length documentary about transgender people.
In a special edition of the Anderson talk show, ‘Children & Teens Caught In The Wrong Bodies’ which is scheduled to air on Wednesday, she [sic] told journalist Anderson Cooper: ‘My school, people were telling me that I was a boy and it made me really sad.’
By some remarkable coincidence, Anderson Cooper himself is an overt homosexual. You would almost think there is an agenda involved.
Danann’s parents, Sarah and Bill Tyler, who also appeared on the show, said they did not know what was wrong with their son when, from aged two, he insisted he was a girl.
We are told that at age 4 Danann denounced God for giving him a penis, which he talked about cutting off. At six he was supposedly threatening to hang himself. More believably, he was “bullied” (i.e., teased) at school for bringing a princess lunchbox. But then his parents repackaged him as a girl, and everyone is living happily ever after — until this social engineering Frankenstein monster inevitably self-destructs.
But parents should not feel personally responsible, according to Sarah.
Then who should? Danann is a train wreck that we can all see coming years in advance. Rather than trying to help him, the poor kid’s parents nurture the disease. Naturally the media croons with delight.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | November 17, 2011 at 12:09 PM
To solve our economic trouble there are three possibilities, not necessarily exclusive of one another. One is war, that forces trade reorg, and topples marginally stable companies. This is the recent feigned threat in Hawaii, while Obama is kissing Hu Jintao on the mouth. Clearly his personal plan is to reduce US international saliency by increasing insolvency. This really is a nonplan, increasing international disorder, tension, and economic instability.
Second is public upheaval bringing government/institutions/companies/corrupt banks down. They would then presumably be restructured, and brought back online, transformed. Like the French Revolution. I am not sure if France ever actually recovered from this, it requiring Napoleon to rid Europe of the corrupt Aristocracy elsewhere, leading … to DeGaulle adopting a new Constitution.
Third, is a planned reorganization, like that of Cerberus on Chrysler. The idea here is to apply the carrot and the stick, pushing down on companies, bringing them down, while instigating a new institutions that embody the new, uncorrupted entity that then grows and replaces the old. Obsolete/dysfunctional Government departments, the military, bad public/private partnerships, universities, Pharma and the healthcare system could be handled this way, bring costs significantly down. Eventually even the banks could be transformed and rebuilt under Glass-Steagel. This requires one vision. This is the civilized way to proceed, but hey, when did anyone ever do anything like that?
Posted by: Chief Joe | November 17, 2011 at 12:10 PM
BTW - I am too growing concerned with the message behind OWS and where it will lead. I am not against capitalism, I am directly involved in the free market and firmly believe that working hard results in success monetarily.
I'm against anything that perverts or corrupts capitalism. Anything or anyone who does.
Posted by: Rafe | November 17, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Great to explain OWS origins, schema, and heirarchy, thank you!
If I may, to assist on the history lesson, submit an article with links to videos, including the FBI agent who infiltrated Weather Underground during Bill Ayers time there, an article written prior to the 2010 election (a bit long as I am a researcher, not a writer) http://changingwind.org/index/comment.php?comment.news.113.
We all need to do what we can to help save our country from the reprehensible unconstitutional activity of the Socialist in the White House and his Progressive minions.
Posted by: ToddyLittman | November 17, 2011 at 12:16 PM
Pay attention to the generals: the unions, the socialists, the communists, the anarchists. They are running the show. And they know EXACTLY what they are doing.-------Monica
Typical conservative insane rant.
At OWS Seattle, police pepper spray a pregnant woman, priest and a 84 year old woman.
Posted by: jay | November 17, 2011 at 12:29 PM
This sounds just like the X-lax's childhood!--UG
Clas, look at the typical conservative post. How, the person attacks another. Look at the words that were chosen, the tone of the comment.
This, is how the conservative mind thinks.
Now look at this conservative's mind obsession with one subject manner:
Yes, Cara Mia, we remember. We have remembered. We keep remembering. We are witnessing the progasites of OCCUPY MONICAMEMO. It's much closer than Wall Street. Have you noticed?
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PROGASITE, a noun.
1. a troll, a progressive parasite.
2. a progasite feeds 24/7 on a conservative host. When this species of troll finds a conservative host with weakened or non-existent immune system, such as Monicamemo, the progasite feeds voraciously
Posted by: gringoman | November 17, 2011 at 11:39 AM
Why do conservatives have such an insane desire to avoid those who do not think as they do? Were they raised by nannys as a child and had to wear shorts all their life? And, therefore have no backbone?
many scientists have pondered this question for decades.
Posted by: jay | November 17, 2011 at 12:36 PM
Jay, guess those people were in the right place at the right time, after 2 months, anyone check em for track marks? Do a rape kit?
Typical Progressive overlooking of the overall situation, that the "collective" was a collective of scofflaws of all ages, and many an act of depravity taking place (You may recall Priests are not always Saints, nor are pregnant women, etc.)
You can complain about pepper spray all you want, explain how the people there didn't know or should not have known that such tactics would be used to remove them for trespassing, and would rightfully be used by the community that afforded their free ride for 2 months.
Do not assault my private property because you do not agree with my right to have it. Do not assault my nation due to your belief that this nation is set up wrongly. Instead, go where others think like you and governments run as you would like them to, and that would be almost anywhere else in the world but the Constitutional Republic of the United States of America as instituted by We The People (not a tyrant or tyrannical parliamentary Democracy of 49% oppression).
Posted by: ToddyLittman | November 17, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Wrong.
Fox Nation: ‘God Bless Income Disparity’ | Polls show that Americans are increasingly concerned with growing income inequality in the country, but conservative news outlets and think tanks are pushing back with their own reports praising the widening gap between the rich and everyone else. The Heritage Foundation, for instance, argued on their blog that “economic inequality is not necessarily an injustice, but rather a necessary component of any prosperous society.” Now, Fox Nation, the social media spin off of Fox News, has chimed in with their own story citing one obscure economist: “Economist: God Bless Income Disparity.” They tweeted the story as simply “God Bless Income Disparity”:
Posted by: Rafe | November 17, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Now, class. Look at how a conservative plays the role of the grade school bully by using this name calling tactic:
I think if the X-lax chokes on its own waste its trusty sidekick GAY will sue the Memo for allowing the Xkrement to freely spew.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | November 17, 2011 at 07:44 AM
Notice the same name calling that is found in elementary schools. The trying to be the so called TOUGH GUY attitude.
Your homework assignment for tomorrow is," Why do conservatives still live their lifes as if they were still 7 year olds?
Why do conservatives use that same tactic in political campaigns?
Posted by: jay | November 17, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Jay, guess those people were in the right place at the right time, after 2 months, anyone check em for track marks? Do a rape kit?--ToddyLITTMAN
Now, class. Look at this common conservative belief that if one does it They ALL do.
Posted by: jay | November 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM
ocuppiers sorted for your convenience........
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=105129
WAR CARRIES COLLATERAL DAMAGES, & those prepared to wage it, better prepare for damages.........
REFORMED DEM FOR PERRY 2012
Posted by: thebuckstopshere | November 17, 2011 at 01:02 PM
"one bad apple spoils the whole bunch"
Posted by: SYBIL | November 17, 2011 at 01:03 PM
OCCUPY MONICAMEMO PROGASITES "We are not Jerry Sanduskys of Occupy Penn State. We are not political pedophiles, seeking out and defecating on vulnerable sites. We just want to "touch" the Monicamemo conservatives. Why won't they debate us? What's wrong our filthy creeps like Toilet Mouth? Doesn't he have a right to be a filthy creep in your house, hiding and raving behind a Jesus avatar? That's class. It's in the Constitution. What's wrong with you conservatives? Why do you act like we smell? We don't stink. Here, have a whiff...."
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Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt. HERBERT HOOVER
Posted by: gringoman | November 17, 2011 at 01:03 PM
"If I may, to assist on the history lesson, submit an article with links to videos, including the FBI agent who infiltrated Weather Underground during Bill Ayers time there, an article written prior to the 2010 election (a bit long as I am a researcher, not a writer) http://changingwind.org/index/comment.php?comment.news.113. " ( --ToddyLittman)
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Excellent work there, ToddyLittman. I encourage everyone to carefully read it and watch the vids.
BTW, Pay no attention to Jay, he is only nine years old (mentally that is). His only purpose in life, it seems, is to come here and to annoy the adults. It's best to completely ignore him.
Posted by: DJ | November 17, 2011 at 01:07 PM
Do not assault my private property because you do not agree with my right to have it. Do not assault my nation due to your belief that this nation is set up wrongly. Instead, go where others think like you and governments run as you would like them to, and that would be almost anywhere else in the world but the Constitutional Republic of the United States of America as instituted by We The People (not a tyrant or tyrannical parliamentary Democracy of 49% oppression).
Posted by: ToddyLittman | November 17, 2011 at 12:43 PM
We welcome a voice of conservative reason! But Beware, this site, despite Warrior Princess, has been subjected to a vile and often vicious, even blasphemous Occupy Monicamemo infestation. If you don't already know this, you soon will after a relatively brief time here. The louses have succeeded in driving away most--I underline most---conservative voices at a conservative site, since very few want to be subjected to a foul Obamaville, especially when coming to the Internet "home" of a 'Warrior Princess.' You will notice the modus of the more "moderate" trolls, especially the dumbest one. They are in obvious cahoots with the scumbag lunatic, while they play the "better" cop. The little dumbo keeps posting Democrat talking points, while pretending that he's not a cohort of the raving Toilet MOuth who handles the Prog Corps Blowtorch. They think they're clever and not totally transparent. Not a single one of the lesser clowns has ever said a word against their Scumbot Freak who hijacks the Jesus avatar. In fact,. one of their dummies even said he supports the freak's "rights," i.e. the "right" to come dump a load in your living room, like a stray dog off the street. That's these creeps' idea of "rights," Perfect punks of Obamaville.
In case you are not just another conservative who will be driven away by these creeps, feel free to suggest any new methods of doing what Monica has not done: freeing the site of their unsanitary, disgusting Obamaville, where the little spambots hide behind their "rights" which are open to them at hundreds of other Prog Corps sites, while they clearly support the lunatic who raves 24/7 in bathhouse style, with old Marxist Class War pap behind a Jesus avatar. Good luck.
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Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt. HERBERT HOOVER
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Posted by: gringoman | November 17, 2011 at 01:35 PM
THE OBAMAVILLE PARASITES
ToddyLittman.
In case you're one of the conservatives with enough grit to hang around Monicamemo instead of being driven out by the scumbots who squat here: To a degree this has become a Prog Corps Occupy Monicamemo cesspool (due to no adult supervision).(It's sort of a Union/Soros/Obot operation, like the Occupy Everywhere which the jerks think nobody can see through). You will soon notice one of their tactics: pretend that examples of their degeneracy are only isolated examples. The Dumbella that regurgitates Dem and union Talking Points, for example, will say that a rape at their Obamaville toxic dumps is just a rare, isolated case. We've dealt with these creeps, as Monica still will not "handle" them. I don't call them pure scum. There's nothing pure about them. Here is a report on these so-called isolated examples of their Obamavilles.
///////What I’ve collected below is far from comprehensive but still shows over 75 incidents of sexual assault, violence, vandalism, anti-Semitism, extortion, perversion, and lawlessness.
The MSM could easily tell the story of how this violence-prone movement is becoming an increasing threat to our society. After all, my research below is the result of nothing more than Twitter and Google. Among others, The New York Times, Washington Post, Politico, and the LA Times have willfully chosen not to use the resources at their disposal to give the public an honest look at this growing menace. In their partisan minds, truth doesn’t trump agenda.
http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/10/28/occupywallstreet-the-rap-sheet-so-far
Posted by: gringoman | November 17, 2011 at 01:59 PM
OCCUPY MONICAMEMO PROGASITES "We are not Jerry Sanduskys of Occupy Penn State. We are not political pedophiles, seeking out and defecating on vulnerable sites. We just want to "touch" the Monicamemo conservatives. Why won't they debate us? What's wrong our filthy creeps like Toilet Mouth? Doesn't he have a right to be a filthy creep in your house, hiding and raving behind a Jesus avatar? That's class. It's in the Constitution. What's wrong with you conservatives? Why do you act like we smell? We don't stink. Here, have a whiff...."
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Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt. HERBERT HOOVER
POSTED BY: GRINGOMAN | NOVEMBER 17, 2011 AT 01:03 PM
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We don't owe the OWS kiddies our money nor do we owe the OMM crowd our attention.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | November 17, 2011 at 02:48 PM
You win.
Posted by: Rafe | November 17, 2011 at 03:28 PM
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No I don't. I win when all of you lib kiddies vanish of the Memo and when the Bama is replaced by a True Conservative and not some RINO.
THAT'S what I would call winning.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | November 17, 2011 at 03:38 PM
Jay, it's a fact of the lawlessness of the area and that there was no checking of if they did or didn't. You have no proof they weren't there for other purposes, including to be part of your Progressive spin.
So my claim remains true, no one checked them for track marks, you are the one that jumped to the conclusion it was an accusation on the idea that if one does they all do. I merely used the fact some do, requires all are checked, I didn't say they have track marks, or that they were raped, etc., I asked if anyone checked, and you clearly can't answer yes to that question, which impeaches your entire statement about people being peppersprayed, and also, failed to explain how they didn't know our should not have known such tactics would be used.
But I do thank you for the innuendo laced ad hominem rebuttal:
"Jay, guess those people were in the right place at the right time, after 2 months, anyone check em for track marks? Do a rape kit?--ToddyLITTMAN
"Now, class. Look at this common conservative belief that if one does it They ALL do."
Accepted as your unequivocal admission of my 100% accuracy, in your failure to have an actual reply with any substantive rebuttal. Thank you so much for admitting my conservative views are paramount, and 100% accurate, particularly regarding the Occupy movement, you're a gem :)
Posted by: ToddyLittman | November 17, 2011 at 03:39 PM
You call that winning but I call that losing. Either way we both win, no?
Posted by: Rafe | November 17, 2011 at 03:50 PM
Ooooh. I'm so scared. A revolution. Who knew?
Better have Rosario pack up the Porsche, Honey, and grab the kids. I'll clean out all the accounts and we'll spend the Holidays in the Caymans, and then onto someplace safe.
Anyplace but America.
Posted by: xbjllb | November 17, 2011 at 03:51 PM
That's my advice for everyone irritated and afraid of the Occupy Movement.
Go Occupy someplace else. You're not going to win this one.
Posted by: xbjllb | November 17, 2011 at 03:52 PM
Getting ANYONE in the 1% to leave the country, even for their own protection and safety, is like getting a Mob boss to leave Las Vegas.
Nothing short of a bomb will do it. And for exactly the same exact reasons.
Posted by: xbjllb | November 17, 2011 at 03:54 PM
Wow. Certainly a shitload of fear, paranoia, and outright terror out there amongst the Barons and Earls, judging by the amount of complete total panicked rightwing bullshit neck deep in here today.
Posted by: xbjllb | November 17, 2011 at 03:56 PM
PHASE THREE: GUILLOTINES.
Posted by: xbjllb | November 17, 2011 at 03:58 PM
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Forgive me if I define what I consider winning. You define it any way you want.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | November 17, 2011 at 03:59 PM
"Forgive me if I define what I consider winning. You define it any way you want." - UG
Winning is making it to heaven.
Losing is ending up with you.
Posted by: xbjllb | November 17, 2011 at 04:06 PM
That's my advice for everyone irritated and afraid of the Occupy Movement.
Go Occupy someplace else. You're not going to win this one.
POSTED BY: XBJLLB | NOVEMBER 17, 2011 AT 03:52 PM
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Hahaha!! LOL another one of those 100% WRONG X-lax "predictions". I am shaking in my boots, buddy.
In the meantime, have you checked on your Drano recently?
Just asking.. I'd hate to see you run low.
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Posted by: Ummahgummah | November 17, 2011 at 04:07 PM
Now Gringowhore is going on and on about "Occupy MonicaMemo" infestation.
AS IF we weren't here YEARS before Occupy WallStreet was a gleam in anyone's eye.
It never ceases to amaze me how the Goddamned (literally) are always able to corral everyone else into one giant bag, no matter how diverse the views and beliefs.
There must be a certain insular provincialism experienced by those in Hell and those inevitably bound for it.
Posted by: xbjllb | November 17, 2011 at 04:10 PM
"In the meantime, have you checked on your Drano recently?" - UG
Don't worry about my pipes, Hellion. Worry far more about how your god Lucifer is going to ream out yours.
Posted by: xbjllb | November 17, 2011 at 04:12 PM
"LOL another one of those 100% WRONG X-lax "predictions". - UG
My record actually is about 20% wrong, 80% right. Far more than chance.
But why would you get that right when you get everything else completely wrong.
And it's not a prediction anyway; it's a warning from simple observation of history.
History always works out a certain way once the rich get too fat and the poor get too thin and there is precious little in-between. America will be no different.
Only the fool thinks it will be any different this time around.
Until their head goes bouncing along.
Posted by: xbjllb | November 17, 2011 at 04:16 PM
Furthermore, most of my WRONG predictions were based on wishful thinking.
What's going to happen to you and yours I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
Exactly the opposite of wishful thinking.
Posted by: xbjllb | November 17, 2011 at 04:17 PM
Notice I'm not asking anyone to leave the blog, as do my opponents.
I'm just advising the rich to leave the country for their own safety and the safety of their families.
I know I would if I was you and had the bucks. I would have already been long gone.
Of course, that doesn't apply to the rich who are lobbying Congress to increase their taxes. They'll become the heroes of the New America. The 99% are not stupid, and have excellent memories.
Posted by: xbjllb | November 17, 2011 at 04:23 PM
The Occupy Monicamemo progasites don't like the comparison with Penn State's Jerry Sandusky. Funny, they both have a history of "showering" where there is no adult supervision and they're not wanted. Sandusky prefers boys. The progasites prefer conservatives.
Sandusky's modus operandus is pedophile---a better known version of memophile.
But why call them pure scum? There's nothing pure about them.
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Tales of my toughness are exaggerated. I never killed an actor, for instance. JOHN HUSTON
Posted by: gringoman | November 17, 2011 at 05:18 PM
Rick Perry sent a letter, obtained exclusively by GOP12, today to Nancy Pelosi, challenging her to a public debate next week.
Perry, in the letter:
"I am in Washington Monday and would love to engage you in a public debate about my Overhaul Washington plan versus the congressional status quo.
I think it would be a tremendous service to the American public to see a public airing of those differences. Let the people decide.
If Monday doesn't work, perhaps we could find a time in Iowa over the course of the next month to discuss these issues in front of the people of America's heartland."
http://gop12.thehill.com/2011/11/exclusive-perry-challenges-pelosi-to.html
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Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt. HERBERT HOOVER
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Are you as well off now as you were four trillion dollars ago? JIM DEMINT, November 2011
Posted by: gringoman | November 17, 2011 at 05:28 PM
$4 trillion, $400 trillion, so what? Just print up more worthless Federal Reserve Notes. Problem sloved!!
Posted by: A Twitter User | November 17, 2011 at 05:38 PM
Glenn Beck? Ugh...he is toxic.
But I am viewing the clip...
Posted by: Rafe | November 17
Beck predicted these protests (and the violence) more than a year ago.
Posted by: LongRifle | November 17, 2011 at 06:49 PM
I'm against anything that perverts or corrupts capitalism. Anything or anyone who does.
Posted by: Rafe | November 17, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Then you are against Obama, Jay, and X-lax.
Posted by: LongRifle | November 17, 2011 at 06:53 PM
Marxist Jay says the OWS gassholes are more well-liked then the Tea Party...Where does that bilge come from, the Bill Ayers evening news? Is it the parrot thing again?
There were more arrests made just TODAY of OWS commies than in ALL the Tea Party rallies put together; not to mention the rapes, robberies, drug use, and emptying their diseased bowels in public.
Posted by: LongRifle | November 17, 2011 at 06:57 PM
The Huffblo is reporting that Perry challenged Pelois to a debate---and she declined. Now that is rich. The only people in Dc with more brain farts than Perry are Pelosi and Biden.
Posted by: LongRifle | November 17, 2011 at 07:01 PM
"But why call them pure scum? There's nothing pure about them." - Gringowhore
Grow back up. The UG schtick doesn't fit you.
Posted by: xbjllb | November 17, 2011 at 07:04 PM
"Beck predicted these protests (and the violence) more than a year ago." - longrifle
Wow. And I predicted them two years ago. Guess Beck reads me here.
Posted by: xbjllb | November 17, 2011 at 07:05 PM