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JET457

So, basically, Romney is trying to "win" the nomination by hook or by crook. I don't like the early primaries nor the premise of an early "lock-up". I was on the fence for Romney, but no longer. He's showing a lack of confidence in himself by gerrymandering the primary schedule. No moral courage. That's one candidate off my list.

Tom Kijanka

"It may lock us into a candidate we may later regret." That is exactly what is happening. Mitt Romney is the 2012 version of Bob Dole and John McCain. The only people excited about a Romney candidacy are the DNC and MSNBC.

Gullsnest

I would say Newt may look grumpy to some but what comes out of his mouth IS gracious (see post-debate comments re Romney). His exasperation is our exasperation. The puffed up, chest-poking egomaniacs in the room frustrate the PTA "git er done" moms who just want these clowns to get some work done and improve the future for our children. Alas, there is no more Palin to suck the testosterone out of the room and actually get down to business. Still, there's hope she could VP for Newt and give us 16 yrs to truly reform this great nation. She's right. Newt won. He has content and would dance circles around our poser prez Oblahblah. He has the knowledge about how our government was intended to work and can use that knowledge to reform the system. Newt also knows when to go to the experts. In one of the "Palingate" emails it was discovered he contacted Palin to ask her how the Alaska oil program could be replicated nationally. Palinistas are still standing by...I say start researching Newt while you wait - but quickly as the slicksters game the primary system!

Jim Bane

Yeah the debate last night made me very disappointed with the current line up of candidates. I'm terribly concerned about the future of our country. It appears to me we need someone other than what we've been presented with. I keep praying Gov Mike Huckabee will enter the race! It's not too late but it is getting close. I think if he entered now he would have an excellant chance of being the republican nominee. He would bring a whole new breath of fresh air and ideas to an otherwise dismal prospect. Here's hoping!!

Rick Kravat

Would love to see Huckabee reconsider. He would bring civility in the debate and bring the focus on Obama. He did quite well the last time with limited air time.

Danny N Diana Higgins

That debate last night was screaming for someone like Huckabee to come in like the knight in shining armor to save the GOP. Sure wish he would reconsider and get in this race. He could step in tomorrow and walk away with this thing.

American Heart

The debate stage is just plain lacking without Huckabee on it! Hoping Gov.Huckabee will reconsider. His "army" is waiting to be boots on the ground.

Laura

I agree with the above comments. Huckabee would bring much needed, integrity, civility and common sense to the debate stage.

dl rupper

Mitt Romney is the only one that can go toe to toe with Obama. Quit whining. Sounds like good business sense to lock up a win.

borderbriar

A common sense step that hasn't been brought up lately is that there should be one national election day in a twenty-four hour period the same coast to coast.

The nonsensical show the primary system has become renews my regard for a late friend. He was a political science professor who could be described as very liberal on almost all positions, but he thought the so-called reforms that brought the general public into candidate selection was a terrible mistake. He thought candidates should be selected in the traditional smoke filled room by professional politicians who knew them well and had watched them climb the political ladder.

Listening to candidates and audiences moves me even more toward the opinion we need an amendment to do away with birthright citizenship and make it something to be applied for as a person approaches adulthood and gained by demonstrating knowledge and performing a few years of service in the military or other service. That could move us back to the sense of duty and honor the founding fathers had.

A Twitter User

Business as usual folks!

judi

A true conservative with a graceful temperament? Sounds like Huckabee to me. He still has time to get in the race but not much. If God doesn't lead him to run I'm going to assume it's because we deserve a lousy government.

gringoman

"It may lock us into a candidate we may later regret." That is exactly what is happening. Mitt Romney is the 2012 version of Bob Dole and John McCain. The only people excited about a Romney candidacy are the DNC and MSNBC.

Posted by: Tom Kijanka | October 19, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Add NJ Governor Christie, the Ann Coulter hearthrob who endorsed Mitt Obamneycare. "Doughnuts" also compared the middle class Tea Party to the Occupy Wall Street campers, even while reports are coming in nationally about the Occupiers' robberies, garbage, anti-semitism, hypocrisy over Obama's crony capitalists and Wall Street bankers, and oh yes, even a rape.

So what is G.O.P. Central planning, to stop the Tea Party revolt in 2012 and run against Obama?

White Obama/"Doughnuts" 2012.

gringoman

Where did all these Huckabee Shout Outs come from? I thought it was only the Ron Paulistas who try to swarm you.

gringoman

GOP DEBATE

ERICK ERICKSON//////1. Where has this Rick Perry been? Finally, the guy showed up with unscripted, from the gut answers. The few scripted answers fell flat (see e.g. Jeffres). The rest were good. He’s not the best debater. But he certainly did not lose that debate.

2. Rick Santorum is too angry to be President and came across as a jerk to everyone. Rick Santorum conveniently forgot to mention he got his butt kicked in Pennsylvania, was not a fiscal conservative, and endorsed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey.

3. This debate hurts Mitt Romney more than anyone else. Why? Because the candidates started piling on him. A lot of polling seemed to indicate that voters were getting ready to settle. This pile on and the Newt-Santorum-Cain-Perry pile on of Romney “lying” will keep voters from settling for him. He got flustered tonight for the first time. Perry got under his skin. I don’t know where so many enthusiastic Romney supporters came from, but though he was cheered on stage by the crowd, he was clearly flustered.

gringoNOTE: Despite the Nevada Romney audience, cheering on their flip-flop fave, Romney was put on defensive more than I ever saw. He tried to wriggle out of it on Obamneycare, saying it was only a State thing that was never meant to be national, but finally he got slapped on this too. Finally somebody, I think Santorum, aired the well-known fact that THREE times Romney agents briefed Obama on how to do Romneycare on the national scene! (I still wonder why Perry hasn't slugged Romney with this fact.) If Monica is insinuating that Perry does not fully satisfy in the graces, she's right. But Ronald Reagan had a lifetime to develop that camera charm both in Hollywood and on TV before he ever ran for office. Last night Perry showed something that Texans already know about him. When he finally wakes up and drops the "Sunday School nice" thing, he will go at opponent like a Sherman tank. Might not be the prettiest thing to behold, but with the Marxist Thuggery the Dems will use for 2012, who would you rather field? Let's have some names.

Perry, at least, finally looked like he's ready for business. Gooper Central and the lib weasels sense the danger. That's why they're pushing to accelerate the primaries, hoping to sew it up for their Flip-Flop before somebody, say Perry, comes back with guns blazing.

Watch for the Cain comet to begin to fade as they deconstruct his 999 and his inexperience with foreign policy etc. Yet another reason for Goopers to push even "Doughnuts" Christie to endorse Romney right now.

thebuckstopshere

I don't think "graciousness" is going to get the job done.......HELL TO THE NO ON THE HUCKEBEE! with all the nefarious goings on with the most "transparent administration" I want to be represented by a fighter....that being said I would say the above posters have never been to Texas, & have forgotten what a working state looks like......

in the oil fields when you smell the crude the old timers say "I smell money"....I think the rest of the country needs to smell money too, & I know if elected Perry will issue permits & "DRILL BABY DRILL".....I noted previously the manufacturing side to oil....OIL MAKES GREAT PAYING JOBS........

that being said, the Texas economy is what it is because of drilling BUT drilling is SECONDARY to their AMERICAN MADE EXPORTS TO MEXICO, 10 bil a month & growing, such things as gadgets, computers, phones etc.....MORE GREAT PAYING JOBS

this election should be about JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, & THEN MORE JOBS....

I'm not sure how many Huckabee has created but I have seen what the Perry administration has done for Texas, & again I ask that would be bad for the rest of the country HOW?

Gman, did you notice how Bachmann has backed off the attacks & NOW is focusing on the WON? No, I'm pretty sure beating on Perry wasn't the best plan for anybody.....somebody pointed out to me his debate skills against the won.......I never thought the won was a brilliant speaker & that debate will be about his ABYSMAL RECORD IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR JOB CREATING CATAGORY.......I'm looking for a SOLID performer, not the captain of the debate team..........

PERRY/WEST 2012

Randy Davis

I thought Newt, Cain, and Santorum did relatively well but the entire spectacle was depressing. Personally, I would favor Governor Mike Huckabee by a mile over anyone else in this race. I hear from people all over the nation hoping he will reconsider getting back in. When he said "my heart says no" he clearly stipulated...."for now."

He is in a class of his own and would be the immediate adult on the debate stage with more experience, wisdom, and class than everyone else combined. His communication skills would even be envied by Ronald Reagan.

He also has the uncanny ability to communicate the conservative message without being obstinate and polarizing. He would garner votes from Independents, women, and minorities like no other conservative. And yes, he would beat Obama and he would beat him badly- like "in the landslide of the century."

thebuckstopshere

something tells me, (my gooper sense) the rally for the Huckster is just that......establishment wanting their boy...............

PERRY/WEST 2012

Truther

they wish to exercise the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/

Something tells me if Washington does not respond, it might be something huge.

gringoman

REDSTATE////jonerik Tuesday, October 18th at 10:24PM EDT (link)

That line just sounds like more of the Romney style of jerkiness. Think about it, Perry took it too Romney tonight, but not in ways anyone, especially Romney would expect. At first the whole illegal gardner line didn’t seem like much of anything. But Romney was clearly surprised, and then flustered. So its not always the attack that stumps a candidate, but often the response, which in this case was rather un-presidential, totally negating his ‘if you want to be President…’ schtick.

gringoNOTE: Perceptive. Perry's decision finally to get aggressive and drop his "Sunday School boy" we saw in last debate, had a strong effect. He was out for big game last night. You could see it, even if he's not the best of marksmen. Was his charge about Romney's illegal gardener a low blow or cheap trick? Arguable, after all the shellacking Perry has taken over illegalismo and Bachmann's et al idiot idea of an 1800-mile fence---people who have never lived the border realities he's dealt with for years. The big point: Perry's attack broke through Romney's carefully constructed Presidential "demeanor." Everyone, even Romney's cheering Nevada Mormon audience, could see Romney flustered. Perry, OTOH, never once appeared flustered. He just kept grinding away like an APC *armored personnel carrier) in the 'Nam, his artillery fire justified or not, overkill or not. This is the Perry that Libworld fears, the "sleeping giant" quality. Perry was pretty much asleep during previous debates. Last night they got the first inkling of something that Texas already knows about Perry. Giant or not, watch out when he wakes up. You will need body armor.

Will Perry now follow through? If he does, be afraid,Libworld. Watch those poll numbers.

thebuckstopshere

Truther, my sense is telling me if this occupation is indeed being funded by the Soros machine, it is hedging bets to get the Won re elected...........

up until this election since clinton's bid I have voted 3rd party.......NOT THIS TIME, we cannot take another 4..........

PERRY/WEST 2012

Truthfinder

It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.— Samuel Adams

We need a true leader that is more concerned about solving the country's problems than sucker punching the other guys and gouging their eyes out.
We need
Honorable
Unwavering
Communicator
Knowledgeable
Authentic
Bold
Effective
Experienced

America needs hard work, common sense, and integrity, coupled with determination to do the right thing, not the politically correct expedient thing to do.
America needs Mike Huckabee in 2012! drafthuck2012.com

Hometown Uptown

Perhaps we ought to boycott the upcoming election. These people are just grandstanding, and looking foolish. They do not have positions on anything. They are empty shirts and blouse.

Romney and Cain - are both using their campaigns to make money for themselves, and their relatives. Both are hucking books,... they are just like O'Donnell. God thing we have the Federal Election Commission, right? LOL.

JustGrace

Monica, I agree that pushing up the dates of the primaries and caucuses is not fair to those who are less well-known. Or to us, trying to decide for whom to vote. Romney never really quit campaigning and has loads of money. But not the others. I did not particularly like the format of the CNN debate, which really encouraged the bickering and hitting back.

Each of the candidates had some good moments and probably as many bad. I kept hoping to hear more from Newt, because even though his temperament and background might keep him from being my favorite, his answers were even-toned and intelligent. He was not trying to play gotcha or trying to destroy his Republican counterparts.

The one who should be there, who really does not go for tearing down those whom he calls "friends," is Governor Mike Huckabee. He would have made this a good debate. I think the way things are playing out and with the candidates not helping themselves, it might be time for him to get in. He always polled at the top against Obama, usually edging him out in polls in May. He is still immensely popular. He consistently has had the most "favorables" and the least "unfavorables" compared to those on the Republican stage. Plus, he has executive experience, was able to work with Democrats in Arkansas, and left his state with almost a billion dollars in surplus. Things that are obviously needed with the state of the economy in America!

thebuckstopshere

Justgrace, the state of the economy in Texas is just fine, better than fine actually......I will post these stats for you & the other Huckebee supporters......

http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590

while Huckabee maybe gracious, we need a proven PRIVATE SECTOR JOB CREATOR.......

PERRY/WEST 2012

thebuckstopshere

& this is what created the TEAPARTY MOVEMENT......LESS GOVERNMENT, HARRY....

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/10/19/reid-says-government-jobs-must-take-priority-over-private-sector-jobs/

PERRY A RIGHT TO WORK STATE PRIVATE SECTOR JOB CREATOR 2012

Tab Numlock

Senor Ricardo Perry finally took off the gloves. Rick scored mucho grande when he alleged Romney tangentially hired illegals to mow his lawn. Devastating! Mitt might as well hang it up over that one. ROFLMAO

Obama/Hillary 2012

Hometown Uptown

Chuck Colson for President!

Kevin Bumpus

Wow! So many people still thinking about Huckabee. I have to admit I'm another one of them. Nobody currently on that stage brings what Huckabee would. Maybe a little clamor hear & there will get him to reconsider! Keep it up 'Huck' supporters!

thebuckstopshere

who in the private sector, doing like work, makes this kind of money?

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/10/19/reid-says-government-jobs-must-take-priority-over-private-sector-jobs/

PERRY/WEST 2012

gringoman

PERRY ON THE ATTACK (not pretty, but....)

REDSTATEizoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, October 19th at 2:44PM EDT (link)

Here is the gold plated quote from Romney that Perry extracted from his “attack”.

“So we went to the company and we said, look, you can’t have any illegals working on our property. ‘I’m running for office, for Pete’s sake. We can’t have illegals!’”

Solid Gold for TV spots my friend.

Can’t wait to see Perry yelling at Obama……

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

gringoNOTE: Gosh, Perry would not be "gracious" to Barry, like Romney would---and like McCain was? Oh, Dear me! Golly, maybe Huckabee is needed, for "graciousness" to Barry's Chicago gangland? Club Gooper would like that, no? THE COMMANDANTE

Jay

ps If one sees Monica as a GOP operative, is it any wonder why troll trash can hijack her website? The troll trash want what GOP Central wants to run against Obama: The White Obama and "Doughnuts."

Posted by: gringoman | October 19, 2011 at 09:31 AM

We have tried to get this troll trash off the meo for sometime now.
Even uses a photo of Castro. That should tell you something about the guy!

Jay

PERRY A RIGHT TO WORK STATE PRIVATE SECTOR JOB CREATOR 2012

Posted by: thebuckstopshere | October 19, 2011 at 01:04 PM

The problem with Perry is that his budget debt is one of the worse in the nation. And, his new jobs are mostly minimum wage.

Jay

From the Hill.com:


http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/188443-reid-says-public-sector-jobs-must-take-priority-over-private-sector-jobs%27%20rel=%27nofollow


Reid reiterated his emphasis on creating government jobs by saying Democrats are looking to "put hundreds of thousands of people back to work teaching children, have more police patrolling our streets, firefighters fighting our fires, doing the rescue work that they do so well … that's our priority." He said Republicans are calling the bill a "failure" because they are "using a different benchmark for success than we are."


Private-sector jobs have increased over the last 19 months, while government jobs have lagged. They've also seen cuts in several states that are struggling to balanced their books.

And:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/obama-rerun/188343-presidents-strategy-is-working-even-if-americans-arent

It seems shocking that Obama the underdog is putting Republicans on defense, but that is exactly what’s happening.

In a role reversal from the beginning of the year, it is now Republicans in Congress who are clamoring for bipartisan cooperation. And if we learned anything from Obama this summer, it’s that appeals for bipartisanship are the clarion call of the party that’s back-pedaling.

While the majority of polls are still bleak for Obama, there are suddenly silver linings for the Chicago team.

An ABC/Washington Post poll this month saw Obama enjoying enormous gains across the board on the question of whether voters trust the president or Republicans in Congress more to create jobs.

In September, 37 percent of independents said Obama, while 42 percent said Republicans. A month later, the poll was much better for the president, with 44 percent saying they trust Obama more and only 31 percent favoring the GOP.

The new discipline is working with Democrats, too. After almost three years of begging Obama to drive home a consistent message on jobs, Democrats are starting to rally behind the president.

Sixty-nine percent of Democrats in the ABC/Post poll trusted Obama on jobs in September. That number is now up to 79 percent.

gringoman

Gman, did you notice how Bachmann has backed off the attacks & NOW is focusing on the WON? No, I'm pretty sure beating on Perry wasn't the best plan for anybody
PERRY/WEST 2012

Posted by: thebuckstopshere | October 19, 2011 at 11:53 AM

Buck, what I noticed is that Bachmann still spouts cliches about an 1800-mile border she's never had to deal with. It's bad enough she, like Romney, has to gloss right over the Fed responsibility, so as to blame it on the State and Perry. That's Pol Ploy 101. But she couldn't even let go of the crazy 1800-mile "Wall" ---that would likely be the greatest Union-scale boondoggle in history. (And I'm giving her the benefit of a doubt that she's just doing campaign polspeak, and isn't loopy enough to think that an 1800-mile "Wall" will ever happen).

Jay

The problem the Republicans are having is the Tea Party:

They are a weight that is dragging the GOP down.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html

Crashing the Tea Party

By DAVID E. CAMPBELL and ROBERT D. PUTNAM

Published: August 16, 2011


GIVEN how much sway the Tea Party has among Republicans in Congress and those seeking the Republican presidential nomination, one might think the Tea Party is redefining mainstream American politics.

But in fact the Tea Party is increasingly swimming against the tide of public opinion: among most Americans, even before the furor over the debt limit, its brand was becoming toxic. To embrace the Tea Party carries great political risk for Republicans, but perhaps not for the reason you might think.

Polls show that disapproval of the Tea Party is climbing. In April 2010, a New York Times/CBS News survey found that 18 percent of Americans had an unfavorable opinion of it, 21 percent had a favorable opinion and 46 percent had not heard enough. Now, 14 months later, Tea Party supporters have slipped to 20 percent, while their opponents have more than doubled, to 40 percent.

Of course, politicians of all stripes are not faring well among the public these days. But in data we have recently collected, the Tea Party ranks lower than any of the 23 other groups we asked about — lower than both Republicans and Democrats. It is even less popular than much maligned groups like “atheists” and “Muslims.” Interestingly, one group that approaches it in unpopularity is the Christian Right.

Seems more people from all parties support Occupy wall street.

xbjllb

Boy look at all the newbie bots from the candidates campaigns!

Welcome to the blog!

xbjllb

Candidates Gone Wild = Party Gone Wild

Things get pretty desperate when you know you're against 87% of the electorate.

 M/M

Video by Opie and Anthony. Very funny and politially incorrect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7WBLnj2iTqw

Jay

Seems that many of the wealthy, those on Wall Street and Republicans also love Occupy Wall Street.

Boeing_B17

Why can’t the United States have a national primary day? In 2008, Iowa pretty much picked Obama or at least catapulted him to the top. Friends from Iowa said it was a grand strategy to keep Hilary out of the White House. Thanks Iowa!

gringoman

Barney (Subprime Mortgage) Frank Supports Occupy Wall Street

(While Busy Raising Wall Street Cash)

---EL COMMANDANTE (gracias por amigo gringoman)

gringoman

////Allahu Akbar'.

Passenger: 'You're all going to die'
Southwest flight makes emergency landing
Posted: October 18, 2011 - 1

You’re all going to die,” a man dressed in black screamed at passengers Tuesday afternoon. “You’re all going to hell. Allahu Akbar,” translated as God is great in Arabic.

http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/2011-10-18/passenger-youre-all-going-die#.Tp941HIviSt

Federal authorities arrested Ali Reza Shahsavari, 29, of Indialantic, Fla., onboard the Boeing 737 after pilots made an emergency landing at Rick Husband Amarillo International Airport at 3:30 p.m. He is being held in the Randall County jail on a federal charge of interfering with a flight crew.

J DUMBO PROGTROLL Comrade Trollscum, you're Christian, right? You usually wear a Jesus costume right? You scream to your enemies about your hell. You never moonlight for Mohammed's too, do you?

gringoman

PARASITE PARADISE?

BLOOMBERG///U.S. Capital Now Richer Than Silicon Valley — Federal employees whose compensation averages more than $126,000 and the nation's greatest concentration of lawyers helped Washington edge out San Jose as the wealthiest U.S. metropolitan area, government data show.

gringoman

PERRY COMES OUT SWINGING?

october 19, 2011, 2:18 pm
Perry to Propose a National Flat Tax
By ADAM NAGOURNEY

LAS VEGAS – Gov. Rick Perry of Texas said Wednesday that he would propose a flat tax next week as part of a tax overhaul program, signaling a new effort to separate himself from Mitt Romney and the rest of the Republican field.

“I want to make the tax code so simple that even Timothy Geithner can file his taxes on time,” the governor said.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/19/perry-to-propose-a-national-flat-tax/

gringoNOTE: Geithner is the tax cheat who Barry Obama named Secretary of the Treasury.

gringoman

WaPo/////Obama still flush with cash from financial sector despite frosty relations

gringoNOTE: Barry, winking at the sleeping baggers on Wall Street: "You are what I'm all about."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-has-more-cash-from-financial-sector-than-gop-hopefuls-combined-data-show/2011/10/18/gIQAX4rAyL_story.html

gringoman

chris christie
Christie Calls Public School Teacher's Opposition to Homosexuality "Disturbing"
3:43 PM, Oct 19, 2011 • By JOHN MCCORMACK

EL COMMANDANTE Your mariposas have problema in Yankee land? Let them come to People's Republic of Cuba!

gringoman

Keith Olbermann is not in the witness protection program, but he might as well be. His show on Al Gore’s Current TV (America’s least watched network) has lost nearly a third of its viewers in four months.

Pretty impressive result for $10 million a year. That’s just his salary.

Countdown with Keith Olbermann was a major draw when it was on MSNBC. On January 21, the network took a big hit when Olbermann announced on air that that would be his last show for them. Then in June, Current launched Olbermann and Countdown.

It was no surprise that Olbermann drew a big audience for its early shows - averaging 106,000 viewers a night. Unfortunately, by August it was down to 79,000. Last month’s numbers were even worse. Olbermann’s average was down to 46,000 viewers and was in no danger of coming close to breaking into the top 30 cable TV news shows. None of the top 30 is all that impressive in terms of audience when judged against non-pundit TV shows. For the third quarter of this year No.1 Bill O’Reilly averaged 2.8 million viewers, while No. 30 - the 12 AM showing of Dr. Drew on HLN - had 435,000. For comparison, Charlie’s Angels got 5.9 million viewers last week and a cancellation.

MARXELLA X TROLLSCUM This is why we need The Fairness Doctrine. Olbermann can't attract an audience? It's not fair!

J DUMBO PROGTROLL I agree. Limbaugh gets 20 million and Olberman gets the shaft? It's not fair. We progs need to do something.

TROLLSCUM If he could get some of Limbaugh's air time, then we could get the other side of the story.

J. DUMBO TROLL I agree. Instead, the fascists and capitalists keep us in darkness. 500 stations, and what's on?

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