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thebuckstopshere

well Monica, you know what they say, "all work & no play, makes Monica a dull girl"............

NO SLACKERS 2012

gringoman

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

Famous Democrat Cowboy, LBJ (Lyndon Baines Johnson) must have heard of Jefferson. But did he ever read him?

Vietnam Era. The War always described as LBJ's "Quagmire." New article shows that LBJ led the Republic into three Great Quagmires. In some ways, Vietnam was the least of them. The Leftniki railed against LBJ dropping bombs on Vietnam. But to this day they have never railed about the Debt Bombs he and the pogwessives dropped on the US.

LBJ's Three Great Quagmires

.1.War in Vietnam

2. War for MEDICARE and MEDICAID

3. War on Poverty

As this article shows, by far the most expensive quagmires have been #2 and #3. Despite the Marxobabble from the pogwessives, the Vietnam War (although horrendously expensive in treasure and blood) has been relatively cheap compared to Libworld's favorite Big Nanny projects. Super Nanny has tied the profit of the private sector to the stupendous waste, hyper scamming and incompetence of Socialist Sammy's Big Government that is "here to help the needy". They're back, of course. They will promote, uh, "equality" and "justice" and "fairness" and all that smooth jazz they play so well in the Hackstream.

http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2011/07/04/the-shame-of-the-cities-and-the-shade-of-lbj/

gringoman

Gringoman and friends.. so Monica is in tacit approval of gay "marriage" and she refuses to clean house on the Memo, allowing libtrolls to run rampant [open borders].

Yet she talks a very good game.

Looks like a precise snapshot of the GOP at present to me.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | July 05, 2011 at 09:05 AM

Ummah,

There are qualities of Monica I have always liked and still like. But fool me she does not---not anymore. In fact, fool me she cannot, even as a tweety pie.


thebuckstopshere
thebuckstopshere

as she conferences, will the fox be on Fox? just wondering.........you know prioirities & the like.........

REAL CHOICE 2012

gringoman

Barack & Michele Obama hate white people" - UMMAH, out to get them re-elected

///////Yes, but there's something so obvious that pogwessives can't admit it and the typical Americano doesn't even see it. They, especially Barry, hate blacks too. But blacks, and black dysfunctional anger, and the implied threat of black mobs, are very useful to them. (Ask any black demogogue, and his white lib patron) The nincompoopery will yell: "HUH! Obama hate on them? But he married one! He got a black mamma!"

No wonder the French have contempt. The Americano and pogwessive blockheads don't even understand a term like "marriage de convenance,"


thebuckstopshere

Gman, after the Obama's leave the people's house, where do you think they might settle?.........I'm thinking aboard somewhere, perhaps with white (sorry about the whitey reference.....) sandy beaches, palm trees, mimosas, & natives to cater to their every whim? again just wondering..........you know priorities & the like...........

WAR ON ERROR 2012

gringoman

i have earlier stated that the Mormons are related to Arabs, hence the polygamy, etc. -- via Egypt and the worship of Osirus. This is a fact. In addition I have found out that Mormon men wear magic underwear :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJD17YyKg08&feature=player_embedded


Posted by: Truther | July 04, 2011 at 11:55 PM

Truther,

I never considered a Mormon relation to Islam, despite the polygamy, but am open to anything factual you can post here. Got any thing besides magic underwear?

Follow the linguistic trail? Come to think of it, MORmon, as in MOOR, as in the Islamic MOORS from MORocco etc who overran Spain and set up one of Osama bin Laden's favorite Caliphates (Andalooz).

A linguistic clue? Not saying, just surfing. What do the Mormons claim as origin of word 'Mormon'? So it's got nothing to do with MOOR? Then what does it have to do with? Is the Mormon promise of becoming a god on another planet related to muslim "seventh heaven"? No? You're sure?

Neither Islam nor Mormons see Jesus as God. No connection? You're sure? I know it's not magic underwear, but still....

Probing can get you called a 'winger' by the Pogwessive Axis that can't even admit the truth about Nazi homosexuality in Hitler's Third Reich. It might not get a you a dinner invite from Camp Obamneycare either, or RINOsaur Central.

gringoman

Do Mormons, like muslims, practice circumcision?

Are Mormons, like muslims, forbidden to booze?

Is there a religious reason why none of Mitt Romneycare's five strapping healthy sons ever served in the US military?

gringoman

contradictions in socialist America:
Economic justice:

"America is capitalist and greedy — yet half of the population is subsidized.

Half of the population is subsidized — yet they think they are victims.

They think they are victims — yet their representatives run the government.

Their representatives run the government — yet the poor keep getting poorer.

The poor keep getting poorer — yet they have things that people in other countries only dream about.

They have things that people in other countries only dream about — yet they want America to be more like those other countries."

Read the rest here: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/laughing-at-the-contradictions-of-socialism-in-america/

Posted by: Tim from TK at July 3, 2011 3:39 PM


Posted by: Ummahgummah | July 05, 2011 at 09:41 AM

Ummah,

This is a clue to why no less than Karl Marx, revolted by his "followers," yelled, "I am no Marxist!"

The dirty little secret about today's Axis of Pogwessives whose Talking Points are often right out of the COMMUNIST MANIFESTO playbook: Marx denounced many of his socialist and Big Government "colleagues" or ex-collaborators. He saw them as nitwits and jackasses. The smarter ones he saw as scam artists. Some had a dollop of charisma, They were 19th century forerunners of today's politician/macdaddy.

gringoman

Gman, after the Obama's leave the people's house, where do you think they might settle?.........I'm thinking aboard somewhere, perhaps with white (sorry about the whitey reference.....) sandy beaches, palm trees, mimosas, & natives to cater to their every whim? again just wondering..........you know priorities & the like...........

WAR ON ERROR 2012

Posted by: thebuckstopshere | July 05, 2011 at 03:15 PM

Buck,

Surely you jest. For Barack Hussein Obama's billion admirers among The Faithful, the WH is The Infidel House. Now if he can get a super gig at the UN, after crippling the US economy with Obamanationcare etc etc, that would be, for them, and almost certainly for him, the true "People's House," almost as good as an authentic super mosque.

All the leading globalniki, especially those who got him into the "Infidel House," understand this. Don't worry, they'd give him plenty of beach time, and hoops too.

xbjllb

"Marxism, communism, socialism, homos, negroes, mexicans, bogeymen, blah blah blah" - Gringoman


Ah. The eternal lament of the dying white miserable geezer. Soon to end like all laments do.

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xbjllb

Conference? Kocheads, perhaps?

Do tell. Full report, please. And please be sure to ask them about my paycheck.

LongRifle

The comments by Truther and gleefully latched on to by Gringoman about Mormons are some of the most idiotic I have ever read anywhere. You get your "facts" from Youtube??
Magic underwear? Related to Muslims? Mormon from Moors? What stupidity and ignorance.
If you want any FACTS about Mormonism, I will give them to you complete with the proof from their own Scripture.
Gringoman says Mormons don't think Jesus is God...HUH??? They say He is the JEHOVAH of the old Testament. Not God? Total ignorance.
The LDS religion was founded in NY (that's in America) and eventually went West to Salt Lake City (that's in the US, too) It wasn't until the late 1800's that missionaries went out of the US.

DJ

The Americano and pogwessive blockheads don't even understand a term like "marriage de convenance,"

Posted by: gringoman | July 05, 2011 at 03:06 PM

White Americanos no longer understand the concept of race-loyalty. Instead, white Americanos chase after "higher ideals"....which of course is resulting in their own demise.

Blacks, as is the case for all other all non-white ethnicities, are not so foolish. They look out for their own interests. Obama identifies as black. He looks out for his own. Smart dude that Obama is!

DJ

I'm a Roman Catholic and see no problem with a Mormon as POTUS. That is as long as he or she is a Jeffersonian Liberal.

DJ

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Cutting the Rope that Supports You

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Head-hunting lawyers pile on. The federal government threatens to cut off contracts. The firm hires whoever is thought to be suffering discrimination, and regards them as an operating cost.

The Chinese, Japanese, and Airbus hire the best available talent. Hmmm....

Now, while bashing WEMs is doubtless orgasmic for the vengeance-deficient, I suggest that it will be disastrous for the country. The bitter truth, obvious to Americans who read history—perhaps three Americans—is that WEMs have been responsible for practically everything that keeps us out of the Third World. Yes, I know. Those in the affirmative-action classes reading this will think I am engaging in obnoxious crowing, racism, male chauvinism, or something involving the word “deconstruction.” No. I am engaging in economic prediction."

Read more >>

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gringoman

The comments by Truther and gleefully latched on to by Gringoman about Mormons are some of the most idiotic I have ever read anywhere. You get your "facts" from Youtube??
Magic underwear? Related to Muslims? Mormon from Moors? What stupidity and ignorance.
If you want any FACTS about Mormonism, I will give them to you complete with the proof from their own Scripture.
Gringoman says Mormons don't think Jesus is God...HUH??? They say He is the JEHOVAH of the old Testament. Not God? Total ignorance.
The LDS religion was founded in NY (that's in America) and eventually went West to Salt Lake City (that's in the US, too) It wasn't until the late 1800's that missionaries went out of the US.

Posted by: LongRifle | July 05, 2011 at 04:03 PM

Longrifle,

As someone who seemes to identify as a non-idiot, you're not required to understand irony, but you are expected to understand the "interrogative." FYI, that means asking questions, not making declarations or assertions.

Go back and re=read my post if you still don't understand. The whole post was framed as a questioning of Truther. I won't say "Socratic" method, as that might confuse you even more.

If you can answer some of my questions, fine. That would at least tell me that you understand what "interrogative" means.

Just two more quick points for now:

1. You say that Jesus is God according to Mormons. But you don't explain how this claim stands up with the claim that Jesus is the spiritual brother of Lucifer. Or does your claim beat that claim, and why does your claim beat it?

2. You mock the asking of questions, a prime element in the history of the Western mind, an element often avoided in most other cultures. You mocked a common tool in discovery---looking at words and their roots for clues. Maybe 'MORmon' has no connection to MOOR. But the intelligent don't consider it foolish to raise the question. What they would consider the mark of a fool is to mock the question without offering any explanation of what, in fact, the origin of the word 'Mormon' is.

You seem to have a real problem with Truther's magic underwear. Should we take this to mean that if a Mormon is good enough to become a god on another planet (a Mormon belief you neglected to mention), he would not be able to have magic underwear, even as a god on his own planet?

gringoman


I'm a Roman Catholic and see no problem with a Mormon as POTUS. That is as long as he or she is a Jeffersonian Liberal.

Posted by: DJ | July 05, 2011 at 04:31 PM

DJ,

I'm still in the process of asking questions about Mormons and Mormonism (Longrifle notwithstanding)

Ergo, I'd appreciate any knowledgeable assistance on the following, since you seem to be interested enough in our Mormon brethren to practice, let's say, "enlightened tolerance" at the ballot box....Here are five questions for now, if I may..........


1.Do Mormons, like muslims, require circumcision?

2.Are Mormons, like muslims, forbidden to booze?

3. Assuming that the word 'Mormon' has nothing to do with 'Moor' or 'Moorish' or anything remotely muslim, why are they called Mormons?

4. I'm assuming that the Mormons get no promise of anything like 72 virgins. However, the best of them do get to be gods on their own planet, right? Does this include a divine polygamy, say the equivalent of a fabulous Sultan's harem?

5.Is there a religious reason why none of Mitt Romneycare's five strapping healthy sons ever served in the US military?

DJ

Gringoman,

I'm no expert on the Mormon Religion, to say the least. However I've heard enough about it to come to the conclusion people who practice Mormonism do not pose a threat to our Constitution. Even if a Mormon such as Romney is elected president, I beleive he can easily separate his religious beliefs with the duties of running the country.

But let's face it, G-man: aren't ALL belief systems pretty wacky? Everything from Atheism to Christianity to Islam to Judaism to Hinduism etc.; they're all pretty far-out when you really think about it. We as individuals have to choose which of those crazy belief systems makes the most sence to us and go with it. Do you agree, Gringoman?

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Oh and because I forgot:

F*CK LIBERALS!!!!!!!

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Ummahgummah

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And the above was said with lots of Class. You do NOT want to hear me going off on LIEberals when I am in a mood.

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DJ

Oh and because I forgot:

F*CK LIBERALS!!!!!!!

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | July 05, 2011 at 05:52 PM

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Ummah,

I'm not quite sure if liberalism is an acquired mental disorder or if libs are born that way?

LongRifle

"You seem to have a real problem with Truther's magic underwear"...Gringo
The garments are considered a symbol of Temple ceremonies. Catholics have Rosaries, Scapulas, Holy Water...Mormons have Temple Garments. They are not magic, (nor bulletproof) but are a reminder of the Sanctity of marriage between man and woman; even if one is not married yet.

I have a problem with people spreding rumors, innuendo, and lies when the truth is readily available. Go to lds.org and get some answers for yourself.
I am not against asking questions and getting answers, but I am against framing questions in a prvocative and inflammatory manner when it comes to any religion without known cause.

1. Mormons are circumcised in accordance with state health laws in America like most males. There is no religious requirement to do so, nor any prohibition against it.
2. Alcohol, tobacco, and illegal drugs are generally forbidden by "The Word of Wisdom" although this has not always been enforced as binding law at all times in all cases.
3. According to the LDS Curch, Mormon is the name of a Prophet who lived in America in the Fourth Century AD and is largely responsible for putting the Golden plates together that Joseph Smith found in NY and made into the printed "Book of Mormon". The term Mormon was originally a derogatory term used by others outside the Church to identify LDS members.
4. This is the tricky one. VERY SHORT VERSION: Officially, The LDS Church banned Polygamy so Utah could become a state. However, Plural marriage (always in marriage) is a requirement to achieve "Exaltation" in the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom. That is when man can become a "god" (NOT God) and become a creator in his own plane of existence.
5. Many Mormons have gone to War for the United States. Mormons believe the United States is a nation dedicated to Jesus Christ and that the Constitution is inspired by God. I don't know about Romney's sons...I can tell you what Mormons Officially are supposed to believe, but I cannot tell you what Romney believes.

Truther

Mormons place their own origins in early Christian Egypt, and their connection with non-Jewish Semites is fairly clear, based on their beliefs. They may have been apostate - as Gnostics for example that were deemed to be heretics. They are insular and have a sense of cultural superiority, and do not mix with other religious groups, essentially like other Semites. They do not drink, exercise compulsory circumcision, and have traditionally held themselves outside US military service, as non-joiners, but they have served in wartime. They are aggressive in proselytizing. It is fair to say they adopted a form of Pan-Arabism.

Smith claimed mon - is Egyptian for "good". He did not clearly state the Mor part, but suggested the concatenation was a contraction. Isn't it obvious it fairly obvious it is Moor?

I think it fair to question Romney's Mormonism. The huge temple in Washington, viewable from the Beltway, is a statement of Mormon purpose- to spread Mormonism throughout the world, much as is Catholic University. The commonality of Mormons and Muslims may give them a conformity to Arab culture the remainder of us would not have- especially if they have a tan. It is fair to think we would be exposed to an invasion of Mormons, and their preaching that alcoholism is the cause of US cultural decline. Hatch practically killed Ted, who insisted Irish need to drink.

Truther

Osiris-ism (also a prot-Muslimism) :

Quinn is a former professor at LDS Church-owned Brigham Young University who was excommunicated in 1993 for apostasy based on his historical writings. Instead of trying to deny Joseph Smith's penchant for occultic activities, Quinn—who says he "remains a DNA Mormon"—concluded that Smith's background truly did involve divining rods, seer stones, a hat to shield his eyes in order to see hidden treasures, amulets, incantations, and rituals to summon spirits. Smith was a magician first class, Quinn believes, but he holds that Mormonism's founder was also a man of God who used his magical tools to communicate with the Almighty God of this universe.

How did Smith come to these beliefs? His associates were obviously Muslims, and Smith, may have been an early-day-Muslim convert, trying to live in the US.

Ummahgummah

Ummah,

I'm not quite sure if liberalism is an acquired mental disorder or if libs are born that way?

POSTED BY: DJ | JULY 05, 2011 AT 06:59 PM


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Either way. They MUST BE DEFEATED.

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Ummahgummah

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I don't find it constructive to attack McRomney on his Mormonism. Leave that to the libs if he should ever be the Chosen for our side.

It will of course be their point of attack the moment we no longer have any other choice.

What astonishes me is that the Rovians still consider him a viable candidate knowing that this will be what they will do.

Unless of course the Rovians are prepared to concede rather than get out of the way and allow a PATRIOT to win!

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DJ

Either way. They MUST BE DEFEATED.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | July 05, 2011 at 08:33 PM

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The irony of the situation is if the libs defeat 'conservatives' the libs will eventually fall prey to Islam and Sharia Law. Hence their victory means their ultimate loss.

On the other hand, if we conservatives triumph over the libs, we will probably allow them to continue to practice their foolishness (unlike libs, we value freedom!). Thus, our victory is theirs also. The problem is libs are too mentally deficient to understand such concepts.

DJ

Hannity is discussing the Casey Anthony Case on FNC right now. Both Hannity and Geralda's liberal idiocy is on full display.

DJ

Spelling correction: Geraldo

Geralda is the feminine spelling of the name. But then again, Geraldo always acts like a little BEEEEEYATCH!!!!

Ummahgummah

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DJ, I get that but that is still no reason not to petition our fellow Conservatives to stop catering to the rote nihilist madness which goes by the name of islam.

What other choice do we have?

You'll never convince a liberal, even one with an islamic dagger held directly to the throat of his eight-year-old daughter's neck.

Forget about trying to convince liberals.

They are deluded on whatever drug they are on. There is absolutely nothing you can do.

Our only chance is other Conservatives who do not yet take the jihad being waged against us seriously.

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gringoman

Oh and because I forgot:

F*CK LIBERALS!!!!!!!

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | July 05, 2011 at 05:52 PM

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Ummah,

I'm not quite sure if liberalism is an acquired mental disorder or if libs are born that way?

Posted by: DJ | July 05, 2011 at 06:59 PM

Let's agree with the pink fascists and liberals (for a moment.) Liberals, like homosexuals, are born that way.

ENTER Dr. Bachmann, husband of Michele. "If that's the case, they need to be born again."

LongRifle

How did Smith come to these beliefs? His associates were obviously Muslims, and Smith, may have been an early-day-Muslim convert, trying to live in the US.


Posted by: Truther | July 05, 2011 at 07:46 PM

Pure fantasy with abolutely no basis in fact. Silly, too. Smith was a Farm boy in Upstate NY, living there in the early 1800's. Truther says there was a big Muslim influence there...lol PROVE IT.

The LDS Church began on September 21, 1823 in NY. The Book of Mormon is about the original People of North and South America, not the Middle East.
Mormon origen is NY State, not Egypt. Where do you get this nonsense? What's next? The Mormon/ufo connection?
No one in their right mind could possibly imagine that Romney, Hatch, or Huntsman have any leanings toward Islam. The very idea is absurdity itself.

gringoman

I don't find it constructive to attack McRomney on his Mormonism. Leave that to the libs if he should ever be the Chosen for our side.


Posted by: Ummahgummah | July 05, 2011 at 09:03 PM

What about looking at the aspects of his religion that the Neo-Stalinists and liberal racists will beat on relentlessly after nomination?

Eg. Elements of Mormonism they are careful not to mention BEFORE nomination? Like the inferiority of blacks, Oh, sure, the rebuttal will be about "black Mormons" "Mormon tolerance" etc etc to counter the following.....

Common beliefs in these black communities are beliefs such as:

*Mormons are racist.
*Mormons hate black folks.
*Mormons believe black folks are the Devil's children.
*Mormons don't let blacks become Elders.
*The Mormon Church only recently let black folks become Mormons because of outside pressure or because Mormons want their money.
*The Ku Klux Klan was full of Mormons.
*etc.,etc.,etc.

gringoNOTE: Let's assume that Mormons have a perfectly non-racial history, adore blacks, never mentioned blacks as being the bad offspring of you-know-who in the Bible....

I put the following question: How can you not say, more less, the very same about Republicans? Republicans even have a record of doing far more for blacks than the KKK-friendly Democrats did. And how well has that worked out for Republicans in today's elections? Do the formerly KKK Dems ever get less than 90% of the black vote and most of the Hackstream media's help?

Also, Truther mentions some provocative points about Mormon ties to Arabs, Egypt, Islam. It even suggests that my MORmon from MORocco or MOOR, off the top of my head, spur of moment, may even have some basis in historical fact. Isn't it worth finding out whether there's anything to it or not BEFORE nomination?

No, I don't think Mitt Romneycare is a jihadist, yet isn't it interesting that the prototype for Obamacare came from Romneycare. Is Mormonism totally beside the point in this? Why was it a Mormon who pioneered state mandate into US healthcare? Why does his demeanor, though sleek and very presentable and physically attractive, often come across as phoney and programmed, more even than Obama?

In brief, the Mormons are known to have a secret society, especially in the upper echelons. Is it pointless to find out as much as possible about them BEFORE a nomination, including whatever ties there may be to Arabs and Islam?

Mormons may have served in the US military, yes. But how about the ruling class Mormons? That's Romneycare's five strapping sons, not a single one of whom, if my sources are correct, ever served in the US military. Not even one.

And eveybody can easily see an unusually scripted, almost mechanical way about the handsome Mitt Romneycare. Why is he like that? It's got nothing to do with so much that he's holding back inside himself, things which a Mormon can't share with the "gentiles"?

I don't claim to know. Just asking.

gringoman

How did Smith come to these beliefs? His associates were obviously Muslims, and Smith, may have been an early-day-Muslim convert, trying to live in the US.

Posted by: Truther | July 05, 2011 at 07:46 PM

Even if Gooper Central decides that Mitt Romneycare and Mormon history on blacks can pass because

1. They can't get the black vote anyway. Obama owns it

2. It's not a commanding issue for their white voters.

Will Gooper Central sober up on Romneycare when it comes to considering how their Christian voters will take to the following.....?

DO MORMONS CONSIDER LUCIFER
TO BE THE BROTHER OF JESUS?


The Mormon teaching that Jesus and Satan are brothers is based on their concept of God being the Father of all pre-existent spirits. Since Jesus is the son of the Father and all other spirits, including Satan, are sons and daughters of the Father then all are brothers and sisters! This idea has been part of Mormon teaching from the time of Joseph Smith and continues today. Few LDS authorities have been bold enough to plainly state this.

Please note what Mormon prophets and church officials have had to say about the matter. From their writings it is clear that they believed and taught that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers.

Bruce R. McConkie, in his work The Mortal Messiah, Vol.1, Pg.407-408 under the heading " Lucifer and the Law of Temptation" has the following to say;

http://www.bible-truth.org/jesusbro.htm

jay

"day they have never railed about the Debt Bombs he and the pogwessives dropped on the US. - Gringoman


Don't forget the debt bombs dropped by Republincans either.

Let's agree with the pink fascists and liberals (for a moment.) Liberals, like homosexuals, are born that way.

ENTER Dr. Bachmann, husband of Michele. "If that's the case, they need to be born again."

Posted by: gringoman | July 05, 2011 at 09:37 PM


Have found from the memo. That those with the BIGGEST mental disorders are conservatives. Guess they were born that way. Mental patients deny that there is something wrong with them. It's always the other folks. Sounds like conservatives, doesn't it?

And the above was said with lots of Class. You do NOT want to hear me going off on LIEberals when I am in a mood.

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Posted by: Ummahgummah | July 05, 2011 at 05:53 PM

When does your mood ever change?

DJ

It's not Romney's religion that would cause me NOT to vote for him. No, the reason I don't like him is simply due to the fact he's a typical checked-pants country club Republican.

He's not nearly as bad a Dubyah (Romney is lightyears better than Dubya), but nevertheless, he IS a typical establishment Republican.


BTW, shifting the cost burden of providing health care insurance from corporations to the government was a plan hatched by corporate executives back in the late 1970s. Mainly the auto execs were the first to push such a plan. It stands to reason that Romney, the son of an auto executive, would be the type to introduce the transition of privately provided health care insurance to the government.

gringoman

gringoNOTE: Gringomormonology.......On looking further into the allegation of Jesus and Lucifer as "spiritual brothers."

It's not as lurid as it might look on the surface. It doesn't mean that the Mormon sees Jesus and Lucifer as collaborators. From my reading the meaning seems to be that they are "brothers" in the sense that they were both created by God. Nothing more than that.

But of course, any theologian worth his liturgy can go in a hundred directions with this. Egs.

1. Are you sure that Mormons never claimed a further association between Jesus and Lucifer?

2. How could Jesus be a brother if he's already the Father, as Jehovah?

Note the following

3. In December 2007 the Church issued the following press release on this issue:

Like other Christians, we believe Jesus is the divine Son of God. Satan is a fallen angel.

Question: Why 2007? Were the Mormons misrepresented on this issue for 100 years? If so, did it take that long to clear up the matter?

Related: Although Longrifle previously claimed that the Bibl identifies Jesus as God (Jehovah) the following takes sharp issue with such a claim.....

Rather, LDS doctrine teaches that God the Father is physically and personally distinct from Jesus Christ, His Only Begotten Son. The Father is understood to be the literal father of His spirit children.

http://www.fairwiki.org/Jesus_Christ/Brother_of_Satan

gringoman


BTW, shifting the cost burden of providing health care insurance from corporations to the government was a plan hatched by corporate executives back in the late 1970s. Mainly the auto execs were the first to push such a plan. It stands to reason that Romney, the son of an auto executive, would be the type to introduce the transition of privately provided health care insurance to the government.

Posted by: DJ | July 05, 2011 at 10:54 PM

This sounds like a reasonable explanation of what prompted Romneycare. Yes, the pogwessives are always telling us how corporations are major backers of Big Nanny and things like that Obamneycare. Of course, the pogwessives tend to leave out the whole story. They tend not to mention how this all got started in the first place. Health care was never the purpose of business. The purpose of business was business, manufacture etc, not healthcare. It took FDR and his New Deal to change all that, or rather FDR and the socialists and crypto-Communists who surrounded him. It was their bright idea to saddle "the capitalists" with this obligation. And the rest is Debt Bomb and hyper-cost history. The socialists saw further ahead. Now the mess has gotten to the point where it may be a choice between bankrupting businesses or bankrupting the Treasury and taxpayers. (The corporations can flee the US with its highest taxes and regulations. almost. on the planet. The Middle class, under seige, can't flee nearly as easily.) For the socialists, who have mastered the art of living on other people's money, it's all good. They never had it this good back in Marx's day, whose family almost literally starved. Obama can even enjoy himself at hoops and on the golf course.

gringoman



Spencer W. Kimball, the twelfth president of the church stated: “Brethren, 225,000 of you are here tonight. 1 suppose 225,000 of you may become gods. There seems to be plenty of space out there in the universe. And the Lord has proved that he knows how to do it. 1 think he could make, or probably have us help make, worlds for all of us, for every one of us 225,000” (The Ensign, p. 80, Nov. 1975).

Brigham Young the second president of the church, “How many Gods there are, I do not know. But there never was a time when there were no Gods and worlds…”(Brigham Young Journal of Discourses, vol. 7 p.333).

What Mormon can believe in only one God? If they did, they would go against their founder, the prophets, presidents, apostles and all the teachings in their church.They would not have the testimony of their founder Joseph Smith being a prophet.

The Bible- Isaiah 44:6 “Beside Me there is no God”

http://www.letusreason.org/lds32.htm

jay

"And the rest is Debt Bomb and hyper-cost history. The socialists saw further ahead. Now the mess has gotten to the point where it may be a choice between bankrupting businesses or bankrupting the Treasury and taxpayers. (The corporations can flee the US with its highest taxes and regulations. almost. on the planet. The Middle class, under seige, can't flee nearly as easily.) For the socialists, who have mastered the art of living on other people's money, it's all good. They never had it this good back in Marx's day, whose family almost literally starved. Obama can even enjoy himself at hoops and on the golf course"

The national debt bomb:

"Economist Mike Kimel notes that the last five Democratic Presidents (Clinton, Carter, LBJ, JFK, and Truman) all reduced public debt as a share of GDP, while the last four Republican Presidents (GW Bush, GHW Bush, Reagan, and Ford) all oversaw an increase in the country’s indebtedness.[1] Economic historian J. Bradford DeLong observes a contrast not so much between Republicans and Democrats, but between Democrats and "old-style Republicans (Eisenhower and Nixon)" on one hand (decreasing debt), and "new-style Republicans" on the other (increasing debt).[2] Similarly, Republican David Stockman, director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Ronald Reagan, as op-ed contributor to the New York Times blamed the "ideological tax-cutters" of the Reagan administration for the increase of national debt during the 1980s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms

Republicans. dirty pogwessives!


jay

"Republican David Stockman, director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Ronald Reagan, as op-ed contributor to the New York Times blamed the "ideological tax-cutters" of the Reagan administration for the increase of national debt during the 1980s"

And Bush2 carried the increased debt even more with his tax cuts. Should have ignored Reagan.

republicans do have a mental disorder.

jay

(Eisenhower and Nixon)" on one hand (decreasing debt),
Funny how Eisenhower did it with 91% tax rates. Ryan wants 25%. This country is in BIG trouble.
Guess my repeating my talking points is no different than what some on the other side keep repeating. At least mine makes sense. And, I try to keep the labels down. Only to differentiate between those who are refered to as liberal and those who would be more conservative.

xbjllb

The main problem with Mormonism? True nineteeth-century sci-fi Polytheism worthy of HG Wells.

There is only one God, PROVEN by the fact He has NO REQUIREMENT FOR A NAME and NO NAME to differentiate Himself from any other entity like Himself.

HE IS=I AM=YHWH. It's not a name; it never was. I AM had no NEED for a name until He came as a human as Jesus Christ.

Mormons are NOT becoming Gods of their own universes. Talk about the ultimate promise of Lucifer as the serpent in the Garden of Eden:

"YE SHALL BE AS GOD..."

Moroni was at the least, a fallen angel duping a horny treasure-seeking kid in the woods. At the most, it was Satan himself doing so just as the serpent did to Eve millennia ago. Satan has always been quite capable of appearing and creating signs of wonder.

Can a religion thus born ever be reformed into true Christianity as Jesus Christ lived, taught, and died it?

Possibly. But a lot harder than nailing 95 theses to a Church door.

And even THAT didn't do it for Catholicism with its heresy of life beginning at conception and the "perfection" equaling godhood of Mary. There are more, but those are the two biggies as the glorification of Mary let the fallen angel Astarte enter the Church where it as resided ever since.

Are some Mormons Christian? Are some Catholics Christian? Yes, IF they ask Christ Himself for forgiveness of sin.

If they're depending on a Priest or a church to do it, they're **** out of luck.

Which is not to say they won't come around during the Tribulation. But that's the much harder way.

xbjllb

I should add, if they're depending, as some Catholics do, on a Priest or Mary to forgive sin, or in the Case of LDS, a church and/or works to do it, they verily are up the creek without a paddle.

Only Jesus Christ, who lived a sinless perfect life, can forgive sin, and He has to be asked personally.

Everyone who does so and keeps doing it consistently as new sins are committed, and even asking for forgiveness of unrealized sins and future sins, will be saved no matter what nutty cult or whack political party or Nazi country they belong to.

However, while salvation is assured, Rapture is not. Christ's own parable of the wise and foolish virgins tells us that fully 50% of Christendom will not make the Rapture prior to the tribulation due to not having enough Holy Spirit in them to be ready for it, but will be saved from God's final wrath pouring out at the very end.

That's why the Holy Spirit should never be blasphemed or ridiculed. It's the way Christ will recognize His own pre-Rapture. Post-rapture, all who ask Him for forgiveness will be saved, but most will even have to deal with actual martyrdom as well as the horrors of living on a planet with the Holy Spirit restraining force on all evil removed.

Kind of like this blog. You don't want to go through that, with some of the folks here in charge of the planet.

xbjllb

Does the last post mean I believe in an imminent Rapture?

I must believe in one, because otherwise it is obvious that the most evil of mankind will destroy the earth without one. The insane suicidal hatred espoused here, the absolute crapping on Christ's only way to peace, loving your enemies, makes global annihilation not only possible, but inescapable. With a lot of luscious moneyminting genocide along the way to feed Lucifers' eternal hunger for innocent blood.

However, do I plan my life around an imminent Rapture? Of course not. Most of my planning is long range.

However, I will not in the least be disappointed to have those plans dissolved by either Rapture or death.

This place sucks, and I cannot make it an atom better, although I have given much of my life to do so.

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