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June 24, 2010

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Really?

Bush stood in front of a banner declaring "Mission Accomplished" in 2003.

I guess the great thing about being wrong is that you get a chance to be right at a later date.

Truther

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Who has heard Monica's imitation of Sarah Palin? It is
very good, replete with emotive subvocalizations. This
is better than Tina Fey who only imitates her mannerisms. Way to go Monica, for capturing one of the more charming aspects of the former Alaskan governor.

gringoman

/////In 2007 and beyond, Bush relied on the military brilliance, counterinsurgency expertise, political acumen, and emotional intelligence of General David Petraeus.

In 2010, Obama is relying on the military brilliance, counterinsurgency expertise, political acumen, and emotional intelligence of General David Petraeus./////


GRINGOMAN Let's not forget Michael Yon. He agrees with Bush and Obama on Petraeus, and with Obama on McChrystal. Who is Michael Yon, and why would it matter....?

M/M Ree, thanks for your input. I don't know anything about the military so your opinion is VALUED.

Posted by: M/M | June 23, 2010 at 10:39 PM

Michael Yon knows something about the military. He served in Special Forces. Later, as a journalist, he has spent, and continues to spend, more time in Iraq and Afghanistan than anybody you can name in the military or the media. He also embeds with the actual soldiers who do the actual fighting. Civilians may not grasp this, but anyone from the Vietnam War knows that this actually gives you a clue to what is really going on. The further you get from the "trenches," the murkier and even phonier the spin gets, in a word, the more political it becomes.

Michael Yon was on WOR yesterday with Steve Malzburg. His report. General McChrystal (who had Yon thrown out of Afghanistan), is a true warrior, no doubt, and was superb in his special ops missions. That said, McChrystal is not a first-rate General in the extremely important strategic sense. His Afghanistan achievement? McChrystal is in over his head. As for his judgement and maturity, Yon points to the fiasco of his permitting a Rolling Stone operative free access, even during booze fests when soldiers who were under great stress get a chance to unwind and say un-pc things that a little "progressive" media hack will naturally seize on. (Non-leftie apologists for McChrystal are forced to speculate that he had no control over this media infiltration,hey, maybe he was "set up," and that in any case he was not responsible for "damaging" remarks made by officers under his command. Then they tell us (while ignoring his soft spot for Hillary Clinton and the end of DADT), what a "strong" General he is.

Michael Yon seems to disagree. Yon also said that Petraeus was the best possible replacement for McChrystal.
(Full disclosure: Petraeus emailed Yon soon after being named to replace McChrystal.)

www.gringoman.com
Escaping Politically Correct

soggy

Gringo, the article concerning endless oil, do you subscribe to the theory?

soggy

Aside from the Gulf ecological disaster, there is a looming threat to the Great Lakes via Asian carp. They, if not stopped, have the real potential to wipe out the Great Lake's indigenous fish species.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100624/ap_on_bi_ge/us_asian_carp_great_lakes

Posted by: DJ | June 24, 2010 at 10:02 AM

This is becoming a huge problem in my state. KY Lake is infested as well as most smaller tributaries. The asian, bighead, and silver carp go crazy from the vibrations from boat engines, and will jump out of the water, many times knocking fishermen and others out of their boats. It may seem funny but the ecological impact is not.

DJ

"Change" looks more and more like "back to the future." Bush was right. Again. And again. And again."

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Well,Monica, you could always coax Jeb into running for pres in 2012. Wouldn't that be great?!? Three Bush presidents within the span of 20 years. Yeeehooo! But who will Jeb choose as his VP? McCain is getting too old. :)

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"At 57, Jeb Bush remains an intriguing figure inside his fractious party. At a moment when Republicans are groping for an agenda beyond opposition, Mr. Bush has long been considered one of the party’s true idea guys, someone a lot of party insiders think could still be a serious presidential contender."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/23/us/politics/23bai.html

DJ

This is becoming a huge problem in my state. KY Lake is infested as well as most smaller tributaries. The asian, bighead, and silver carp go crazy from the vibrations from boat engines, and will jump out of the water, many times knocking fishermen and others out of their boats. It may seem funny but the ecological impact is not.

Posted by: soggy | June 24, 2010 at 02:30 PM

Indeed!

Government must close Chicago locks to halt dangerous Asian carp invasion

"Michigan has seen its waters invaded by zebra mussels and goby. But a far greater threat is headed toward the Great Lakes, and we’re rapidly running out of time to halt it.

As invasive species go, the Asian carp is a menace out of a B-grade horror movie. These fish can weigh 60 pounds or more and are known to leap out of the water and crash into boaters and fishermen, causing serious injuries. Of far graver concern, however, is their potential impact on the Great Lakes ecosystem.

These giant, fresh-water carp have been called “locusts of the river’’ because they devour plankton, the base of the food chain for other aquatic life, decimating native species. They have wreaked havoc as they’ve worked their way up the Mississippi River into Illinois. Now, they’ve been found near Chicago in the Des Plaines River, which puts them within striking distance of Lake Michigan. The International Joint Commission calls Asian carp the “foremost threat to the biological integrity of the Great Lakes.’’

The migration of this invader must be stopped now, and we are convinced that best available solution is a closing of the locks of the Chicago Sanitary Ship Canal, at least temporarily, while other measures are considered and put in place. The man-made canal connects Lake Michigan to the Des Plaines River, and represents our last chance to keep the carp from advancing.
Michigan and other Great Lakes states have pushed aggressively to close the canal.

The state of Illinois and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers oppose the closing, saying it would disrupt commercial shipping and pose a flooding risk. Those concerns are legitimate, but not insurmountable, and the case for keeping Asian carp out of the Great Lakes is more compelling. It is essential that the federal government step into this dispute and take the steps necessary to protect the world’s largest fresh-water supply before it’s too late.

To sign a petition asking the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to close the locks in the Chicago Sanitary Ship Canal, go to

http://stopasiancarp.com/

Last month, the Army Corps announced that it found traces of Asian carp DNA in the waters of Lake Michigan, near Calumet Harbor. The revelation came just days after the U.S. Supreme Court refused a request by Michigan and other states to force Illinois to shut the canal immediately. The presence of carp DNA doesn’t mean that the fish has already breached the canal, but it’s an ominous sign and a reminder that there’s little time left, if it’s not already too late."

Read more...

http://www.annarbor.com/news/opinion/government-must-close-chicago-locks-to-halt-dangerous-asian-carp-invasion/

soggy

You know, my grandpa always said that ducks, geese, and other water fowl transported the fertilized eggs of fish and frogs stuck in their feathers to other bodies of water. Could be that it is too late to stop the Great Lakes from being contaminated.

Ree

Tenacious Johnny MAC (R) the only Government Official who showed up on Imus In The Morning, broadcasting from the National Intrepid Center of Excellence -ribbon cutting today. A state of the art hospital built entirely private funds, for our wounded coming home with head trauma. Imus’s producers were trying to get Senator John F Kerry (D) to attend but his staff kept telling them he was too busy….

http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2010/06/say-what-you-want-rs-other-mccain-about.html

M/M

Thanks Gringoman. Savage has been influencing me, but there are things I don't like about McChrystal. I DO, HOWEVER, respect special ops.

mjfell

Mark Levin explains the Disclose Act and now it’s a threat to the First Amendment

Basically, if the Disclose Act passes the Senate, then groups like the Tea Parties who receive corporate donations to support or oppose a candidate has to meet new regulations to be compliant with the govt. The only problem is that the Democrats have carved out of the bill unions and other groups that support them. So basically, this is an attack on not only free speech, but an attack on the Right:

http://www.therightscoop.com/mark-levin-explains-the-disclose-act-and-now-its-a-threat-to-the-first-amendment

jay

If only Bush had spent as much effort in Afghanistan as he did in Iraq. That's where he did wrong.
"You know, my grandpa always said that ducks, geese, and other water fowl transported the fertilized eggs of fish and frogs stuck in their feathers to other bodies of water. Could be that it is too late to stop the Great Lakes from being contaminated."
Also, all of the insect life on the Hawaian Islands were originally blown by the winds from other areas. But, in regards to the carp.Only mankind can screw up the earth.

soggy

Jay, what about volcanoes and earthquakes? Don't they count? They screw up a lot of areas.

gringoman

Gringo, the article concerning endless oil, do you subscribe to the theory?

Posted by: soggy | June 24, 2010 at 02:25 PM

Soggy, I'm not "expert" enough in oil to subscribe or not subscribe to this theory. But I'm willing to listen, especially to Russian innovators, who still include some very creative people, despite what the socialists did to their country since 1917. How long ago was it when the theory of instant email around the world, even by Joe Six-Pack, was considered utter cockamamie? (Still seems like magic to me.)

Truther

Rush was trying to convince us that the Gulf is already screwed up, might as well continue drilling. I just have to disagree.

Truther

I would like to add that I am a member of the "Hammerhead Club"

gringoman

Thanks Gringoman. Savage has been influencing me, but there are things I don't like about McChrystal. I DO, HOWEVER, respect special ops.

Posted by: M/M | June 24, 2010 at 09:29 PM

M/M,

When Savage was ranting away, defending McChrystal and trashing Petraeus, he managed not even to mention that McChrystal (1) voted for Obama (2) is in synch with Obama on Afghan policy (3)also likes Hillary Clinton (4) has expressed a readiniess to "reconsider" Don't Ask, Don't Tell (5) has been a force behind the ROE in Afghanistan which, according to military sources, are getting American soldiers killed (6) has told Kabul leader Karzai that he's here to serve Karzai, whereas Petraeus has always made it clear that his Commander-in-Chief is in Washington and not in Baghdad or Kabul.

And the list could go on. Can anybody imagine Petraeus getting tangled up with a hack from Rolling Stone? McChrystal is what you'd call an outstanding battlefield Colonel. That, in today's US military, would get him bounced up the chain of command, whether or not he's got the right stuff for a wartime General. (The fact that Karzai prefers the malleable McChrystal to the un-malleable Petraeus is a dead give away for the observant.)

Michael Savage can be very smart and very stupid. Yesterday I found him embarrassing again.

gringoman

The presence of carp DNA doesn’t mean that the fish has already breached the canal, but it’s an ominous sign and a reminder that there’s little time left, if it’s not already too late."

Read more...

http://www.annarbor.com/news/opinion/government-must-close-chicago-locks-to-halt-dangerous-asian-carp-invasion/

Posted by: DJ | June 24, 2010 at 03:08 PM

DJ,

The name 'Asian carp' leads me to suspect that these aquatic "locusts" are from Asia. If that's the case, and they devour and destroy most everything around them, I wonder what's left of their natural habitat back in the Orient. Anything? From what I can see, both first-hand and via media, there still seem to be lots of Asians around. In fact, many now see Asians as the wave of the future in global business and economy. This, despite the depredations of the Asian carp. Which brings me back to the first point: I wonder how much devastation these killer carp have wreaked in Asia, and where we can see it.
I must have missed it completely during my last trip there.

jay

Soggy, while volcanoes, etc can mess up the earth. Nature has a better tendency to recover. But, when people put an animal or plant where it doesn't belong. It seems to just get worse.

WowZER

We are here in mid-2010. What's happening NOW IS WHAT COUNTS - not what Bush did or did not do right or wrong!

And what's happening now is very troubling!

Congresswoman Raises Red Flag on Hezbollah-Cartel Nexus on U.S. Border

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/25/congresswoman-raises-red-flag-hezbollah-cartel-nexus-border/


PastisPrologue

Article 88 UCMJ: “Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

WowZER

PastisPrologue,

Can you provide the exact contemptuous words McCrystal used against the public officials you list? I doubt it. My understanding is the words were spoken by his staff, not McCrystal himself. Let's not spread inaccuracies here!

On the other hand McCrystal had been in charge long enough to change the over-restrictive "rules of engagement" which his successor is now changing. There have been other criticisms of McCrystal that I've heard. Let'ss face it, we are not told everything that's going on and what we are told is often distorted by bias and/or deliberate disinformation. THERE LIKELY IS MUCH MORE TO THIS CHANGE WHICH WE ARE NOT BEING TOLD OR ARE DELIBERATELY BEING TO TO MISLEAD US.

WowZER

GRINGOMAN.

You are SO RIGHT ON THE MARK that "Michael Savage can be very smart and very stupid."

I agree with you that "Yesterday, he was embarrassingly stupid".

DJ

"The name 'Asian carp' leads me to suspect that these aquatic "locusts" are from Asia. If that's the case, and they devour and destroy most everything around them, I wonder what's left of their natural habitat back in the Orient. Anything?"

DJ:The problem, Gringoman, is the “Asian carp” are an invasive species with NO NATURAL predators to keep their population in check. They just keep increasing in numbers and expanding their territory devouring the plankton resulting in the decimation of native species.


“From what I can see, both first-hand and via media, there still seem to be lots of Asians around. In fact, many now see Asians as the wave of the future in global business and economy.”

DJ: Non sequitur. No one is claiming the carp are a grave threat to the human population...other than injuries cause by the carp jumping out of the water and colliding with boaters thus causing physical injuries.

“Which brings me back to the first point: I wonder how much devastation these killer carp have wreaked in Asia, and where we can see it.”

DJ:I suppose there ARE natural predators in Asia that keep the numbers low enough so as to NOT decimate the other native aquatic species. Or maybe the Asian people themselves are the natural predators. They enjoy eating carp very much from what I gather.


“I must have missed it completely during my last trip there.”

DJ: Really Gringoman? Are you saying you don’t enjoy Asian cuisine?

Do you remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fGOjZjM0xQ

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thgirbla

Getting MORE than a little tired of Little Al Capone Jr. in the Oval Office, aka The Liar in Chief, aka The Narcissistic Man Child, aka O'BlahBlah !!!

rick savard

Let me see if i can clear up the misconceptions some have over the now infamous 'Mission Accomplished" banner. It was, in reality, a declarative statement of fact to the C-in-C and to anyone else watching that the ship, with it's officers and crew did indeed accomplish the mission assigned to them. The carrier in question had actually been returning to home port when it was ordered to turn around and return to the area of operations. Orders are transmitted in writing and when recieved have to be acknowledged in writing. The crew accomplished the mission assigned to them and had every right to print and hang the banner. The banner was hung by a proud crew who wanted all to know they had done as ordered. Pres. Bush did not hang the sign up---he had nothing to do with it. So now, will those who have no clue please discontinue trying to make political hay out of that utterly mis-represented event....cheers everybody

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