Somnambulant

The final two Democratic candidates appeared to sleepwalk through tonight's debate. I mean, quite literally, they looked so weary that they appeared to be napping while the other was talking.

They swayed. They leaned on the podium. Their eyelids were heavy. Their speech was slow and deliberate, each response called up on auto-pilot.

They moved as if through molasses.

They both survived. There were no earth-shattering gaffes or obvious slurring or devastating mangling of an issue. But to have both candidates looking ready to keel over is an indication of the toll this drawn-out campaign has had on them. A lot of Democrats are making an issue of John McCain's age (71), but while he's got 10 years on Hillary and 25 on Obama, McCain looks the most spry.

You have to wonder: if they are this tired NOW, in what condition will they be on January 20 of next year when they are sworn in?

Comments

[catmanjim]

Hopefully we won't find out.

[J. Pierpont Finch]

If the Democrat Party really wants to win, they will deadlock in the convention on these two fataly flawed pretensious candidates and nominate a respected middle of the road person (ie. Sam Nunn) who is strong on national security (ie. protect our borders, language & culture), strong on defense (no cut-and-run, no return to isolationist policy), and pro growth as to economic policy (ie. pro global free trade, keep taxes competitively low compared to our foreign competition).

But the evidence so far points to the kind of suicide path it was on in the 1970 election when it put of ultra-leftist George McGovern.

If they choose to put up the Former General, Wesley Clark, who oversaw the Clinton Administration bombing of all the bridges across the Danube in Serbia (our alley during World War II), this wrong war will be made an issue during the campaign and they will lose.

[gringoman]

Yes, Cara Mia, it does look like the clash of Old Slick with New Slick is making our Johnny Boy look better and better. (Maybe even younger and younger.) Yes, it does.

And what exactly does this augur?

Iraq's borders will be safe from the Democrats?

Perhaps. C'est possible. Could happen.

But will U.S. borders be safe from the Republicans?

[Ummahgummah]

Question is: will either of them even wake up when the phonbe rings at 3 AM?

[gringoman]

The White House phone at three in the morning....?

Will they have to press '1' for English?

That's the really pressing point.

[Ron Mwangaguhunga]

It is conventional wisdom along the Beltway and among reporters covering the Presidential race that Bill Clinton's involvement in the Hillary-for-President campaign, once thought to be positively invaluable, has been, thus far, a net negative. It wasn't supposed to be this way, of course. Clinton & Clinton were supposed to have had by now a double-barrelled stranglehold upon the Democratic Party nomination. Bill was supposed to be doing fundraisers while Hillary was to be buttressing the Arkansas and Kentucky vote for the general election. And yet, at present, barring a gaffe of cosmic proportions on the part of Illinois junior Senator Barack Obama, the last Clinton campaign for the Presidency is just about exhausted of all energy.

And what of Bill Clinton's role in this ticket-that-exploded?

http://ronmwangaguhunga.blogspot.com/2008/04/bill-clintons-subconscious-sabotage-it.html

[gringoman]

Hey Ron,

'Mwangaguhunga' intrigues me, and I know it's not from one of your interests, a country I know something about, Cambodia.

May I ask: is it a web handle, or your actual name?

[Ummahgummah]

What ever happened to that "Big News" the Clinton camp announced they were getting ready to release on Obama..

Enquiring minds..

[Truther]

For many, this pro forma debate was about as exciting as an orchestral member of the Folks Opera playing a Strauss waltz.
But hidden in the framework of this debate was a sympathy for Hillery.

[Truther]

Pardon my misspelling of Hillary.

[M/M]

I bring humor to brighten your evening.

Bill Clinton's thoughts on the debate:

"Hillary doesn't whine.

"And, you know, they said some pretty rough things about me, too. But you know, this is a contact sport. If you don't want to play, keep your uniform off," Clinton told a loudly cheering crowd."

There is a video in the attachment

Speaking of whiners, here is NObama:

"She was taking every opportunity to get a dig in there, that's her right to kind of twist the knife a little bit," Obama said."

"That's how our politics has been taught to be played. That's the lesson that she learned when the Republicans were doing that same thing to her back in the 1990s, so I understand it, and when you're running for the presidency then you've got to expect it."

The Video is here.

And the Republicans are all so proud of OUR GIRL. Last night, Laura Ingraham said Hillary is beginning to sound like a conservative when she talks about guns. Hannity was so IMPRESSED with her performance at the debate, especially when she wouldn't let NObama squirm out of his affiliation with Bill Ayers, that he said she sounded just like him. And Vice President Cheney just raved about Hillary's interest in hunting and drinking skills at the Radio-TV Correspondents dinner last night.

That's our girl!

[M/M]

"The White House phone at three in the morning....?

Will they have to press '1' for English?

That's the really pressing point.

Posted by: gringoman | April 17, 2008 at 01:25 PM"

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Good one Gringoman!!

[M/M]

I knew there was a reason why I watch George Stephanopoulos every Sunday. Charles Gibson doesn't fit in my schedule anymore, but I used to.

Way to go ABC!

[Ummahgummah]

Just slightly OT, but since we all are paying for it..

An insider's look at anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism and furthering the islamofascist agenda at the UN:

http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780385516846

Anyone who doesn't think we'd be better off without the bums?!

[M/M]

"The blogosphere has been up on this from jump street. On Tuesday, Democratic Underground was among the first to note that Stephanopoulos was "Taking Notes From Sean Hannity for Tomorrow Night's Debates":

"Hannity asked George what kinds of questions they'll be asking at the debate tomorrow and they discussed a few things. When Hannity asked about the first question below about Ayers and whether George had plans to ask such a question, George replied, "Well, I'm taking notes now Sean." It did actually sound like he was pausing to take notes. And Hannity continued to feed him more: "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/stephanopoulos-left-field_n_97136.html